Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Ishtar]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
We were discussing the difference between sorcery and shamanism further up the thread.

One definition of sorcery is to use the power of intention to impose your will upon others.

In this respect, using the power of your intention through meditation or visualisation to remove one old governing elite in order to replace it with the new governing elite of those asking you to do the meditation can be termed sorcery.

At the same time, by taking part in this Sunday meditation, we are losing our birthright to those wanting to harness our power to their own political agenda instead of using it ourselves for our own spiritual growth.

In this way, Drake, Cobra, Lady Dragon and anyone in this thread asking us to do this Sunday meditation are supporting a sorcerous agenda.

Did you go to your local church this morning?

No! Certainly not. I gave up letting people harvest my energy in that way at about 10 years old, by leaving my local church where I used to attend three times a day on Sundays (and I used to read the gospels in bed every night, before falling asleep). One day, I saw the light, and just walked out, and never looked back. Mind you, I still stumbled around a bit after that, trying to give my power away for harvesting to various other cults, gurus and groups. It took me a long while to realise that I shouldn't do that, and so I do have some sympathy for those still caught up in it.

[Avocadess]

DRAKE will be giving updates on his Sunday Internet Radio Show today from 12:00 Noon through 3:00 p.m. Central Time. Here is a link:

http://alturl.com/553cj

To call in to speak with the host: (646) 716-4984

[Kelly]

People like Drake,
Will always be fake,
They need people to hang on their words,
But if people did not listen,
Then your eyes would not glisten,
With tears when you get let down some more,
If they did not have followers,
Then their words would not swallow us,
In lies designed on purpose,
To mislead and distract,
It is us who need to act,
And ignore their false facts,
And simply not feed them anymore.
It is your energy,
You are your own worst enemy,
You let them bleed you dry,
Pay no attention,
Don't be lead into detention,
By following words that are hollow,
Believe in only yourself,
Not promises of what may come tomorrow.

[Avocadess]

I listened to just a little last Wednesday and just a little now of Drake's radio show. I'm sorry, but for me the militia is just not the answer. When it comes down to the bottom line, I just don't like using guns or violence to stand up for what I believe in.

I'm still very interested in what Cobra and David Wilcock have to say, but I don't believe I'll be personally tuning in to Drake much anymore.

[foreverfan]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I listened to just a little last Wednesday and just a little now of Drake's radio show. I'm sorry, but for me the militia is just not the answer. When it comes down to the bottom line, I just don't like using guns or violence to stand up for what I believe in.

I'm still very interested in what Cobra and David Wilcock have to say, but I don't believe I'll be personally tuning in to Drake much anymore.

Sounds like the movement is fizzling or just starting.

Drake is basically saying that the good guys aren't coming. It's now or never and he is calling for everyone to get in touch with military/state militia/police/occupy movements/tea party groups to come together. The Obama rat patrol is outing the too many of Drake's good guys.

They want to take our guns away by way of the United Nations to get around the 2nd Amendment. He is calling for us to round up the treasonous bastards to be arrested. Drake is so mad that he's about to explode.

[Chester]

Posted by LarryC (here)
<< Yes, but until we have a way of determining the frauds/charlatans in various mystical fields how much use those experiences have to the average person who might consider partaking in them is very limited. The problem isn't that a shaman goes into a trance, receives a vision and then translates that to whomever they went in for. It's that there are so many people who can convincingly pretend to be Shamans and do all of the above that there's simply no way to take the experience for what it is. We're left constantly trying to figure out who's lying and who's not. This is why I say that process is important, to get to those subjective experiences we first need to be able to map out who is definitely NOT having them so that we can build greater trust in those who do.>>

The only real solution to this is to become our own shamans. That way we don't have to be so concerned about whether the experiences and statements of others are authentic or not.

I wouldn't want to place (nor accept) any label upon myself like "shaman" - especially since I have allowed an entity or two to inhabit "me" - but I have had numerous direct experiences with several psi related phenomena and have even developed the ability to create the environment from which clear, profound and obvious synchronicities arise which are observable by third parties.

In fact, I documented hundreds of psi experiences which included artifacts and 3rd party testimony, corroboration. I began that process in August of 2010 and completed my documentation process in January of 2012. I have shared some of these documents with third parties that have investigated psi phenomena and specifically the synchronicity phenomena. I have relationships with several folks who had been involved with the early remote viewing projects including Project Stargate.

What I found is that people can be divided into two clearly seperate camps. Those who are open minded about the possibility of psi phenomena being quite real (and amongst many of this group are those who have had direct experiences with psi phenomena) and the camp of those who are not open minded. Of the latter group, I have found the "non believers" if you will sometimes become aggressive with regards to when an experience is being shared with them. Also, I have found that those who fall within this latter group generally do not remain friends with those who are in the group of believers (of which also may be experiencers).

I have rarely found someone that sits on the fence.

When I was young I did not believe at all whatsoever in psi phenomena.

It took several experiences for me to open my mind to the phenomena. Once I did I had to struggle with messianic complex issues. Finally, I was able to emerge from the messianic complex to realize that the phenomena is real, that one must be careful as to how to interpret one's experiences and that likely everyone has the capability to experience psi phenomena and develop psychic capabilities.

justoneman

[9eagle9]

With caroming arseholes like Drake out of the way the militia may very well do what they have always represented, what they've trained to do , to step up to their purpose. Anyone who has dedicated themselves to that sort of thing isn't going to follow the directions of Drake (thank god) Wilcocks (thank God and his mother) and Fulford (Thank one's own common sense).

Posted by foreverfan (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I listened to just a little last Wednesday and just a little now of Drake's radio show. I'm sorry, but for me the militia is just not the answer. When it comes down to the bottom line, I just don't like using guns or violence to stand up for what I believe in.

I'm still very interested in what Cobra and David Wilcock have to say, but I don't believe I'll be personally tuning in to Drake much anymore.

Sounds like the movement is fizzling. Drake is basically saying that the good guys aren't coming. It's now or never and he is calling for everyone to get in touch with state militia groups to come together. The Obama rat patrol is outing the too many of Drake's good guys.

They want to take out guns away with the United Nations. He is calling for us to round up the treasonous bastards to be arrested. Drake is so mad that he's about to explode.

[gripreaper]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Posted by foreverfan (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I listened to just a little last Wednesday and just a little now of Drake's radio show. I'm sorry, but for me the militia is just not the answer. When it comes down to the bottom line, I just don't like using guns or violence to stand up for what I believe in.

I'm still very interested in what Cobra and David Wilcock have to say, but I don't believe I'll be personally tuning in to Drake much anymore.

Sounds like the movement is fizzling. Drake is basically saying that the good guys aren't coming. It's now or never and he is calling for everyone to get in touch with state militia groups to come together. The Obama rat patrol is outing the too many of Drake's good guys.

They want to take out guns away with the United Nations. He is calling for us to round up the treasonous bastards to be arrested. Drake is so mad that he's about to explode.

With caroming arseholes like Drake out of the way the militia may very well do what they have always represented, what they've trained to do , to step up to their purpose. Anyone who has dedicated themselves to that sort of thing isn't going to follow the directions of Drake (thank god) Wilcocks (thank God and his mother) and Fulford (Thank one's own common sense).

They could still do it without violence by calling a Constitutional Convention. More people would have to wake up first though or it could be co-opted just like everything else does.

[Ishtar]

The Charge Of The Light Brigade

by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

Memorializing Events in the Battle of Balaclava, October 25, 1854
Written 1854



Half a league half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred:
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

'Forward, the Light Brigade!'
Was there a man dismay'd ?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die,
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd & thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Cossack & Russian
Reel'd from the sabre-stroke,
Shatter'd & sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse & hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wonder'd.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!

[aranuk]

According to Drake today the Military are going to do nothing. I have my suspicions he is telling the truth. Without the help of the military I don't expect any quick change. The American people are not going to uprise against the establishment very easily. Maybe Gripreaper's idea is the only thing left? I don't think or feel that the people can do it on their own. Maybe Cobra and his friends can make the difference, however I wouldn't count on it. I do think ET's and ED's exist although I myself have never witnessed such.

Stan

[foreverfan]

[StarDust]

Posted by aranuk (here)
According to Drake today the Military are going to do nothing. I have my suspicions he is telling the truth. Without the help of the military I don't expect any quick change. The American people are not going to uprise against the establishment very easily. Maybe Gripreaper's idea is the only thing left? I don't think or feel that the people can do it on their own. Maybe Cobra and his friends can make the difference, however I wouldn't count on it. I do think ET's and ED's exist although I myself have never witnessed such.

Stan

Conversely, I have more faith in what the ET/EDs may do than the American people to enact a constitutional convention. There is simply very little will power here in the US amongst the vast populace that are unaware and unawake. The cabal has done an outstanding job here to ensure that the people here are docile by becoming seemingly content with their daily lives and captivated by reality tv shows and sporting events; not to mention buying the political system and media markets. With that said, I still have great faith that massive change is coming- regardless of whether or not Drake and others like him that are in the public eye are directly involved.

[Christine]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I listened to just a little last Wednesday and just a little now of Drake's radio show. I'm sorry, but for me the militia is just not the answer. When it comes down to the bottom line, I just don't like using guns or violence to stand up for what I believe in.

I'm still very interested in what Cobra and David Wilcock have to say, but I don't believe I'll be personally tuning in to Drake much anymore.

Thanks Avocadess,

It takes discernment and heart to say what you just said. I know many of us have been having the same difficulty in giving any credence to Drake for a long time now.

I want to thank you for starting this thread it has produced some of the more valuable current discussions on the PA forum. Maybe it is time we start some new threads out of the discussions started here.

Christine - La Tigra

[Ishtar]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
.... I do think ET's and ED's exist although I myself have never witnessed such.

Stan

Conversely, I have more faith in what the ET/EDs may do than the American people to enact a constitutional convention....

The biggest success that psy-ops have had over the past few decades is the successful blurring of fact and fiction. This is because so many people spend their time watching fiction on screens that they can no longer tell the difference between what is real and what is Hollywood. Psy-ops were probably tipped off to how successful a strategy this would be when they saw the panicked reaction of the American people to the radio broadcast of HG Wells' War of the Worlds, narrated by Orson Wells, in 1938. And of course, it hasn't been difficult to get people to believe in a super-race of beings that they haven't so much as ever seen a photo of, who will bring their salvation from the heavens when for 2,000 years they had been brainwashed by religion to believe the exact same thing. God and the angels have just been replaced by ETs in this new religion that only requires your total and utter blind faith in the existence of these beings, which you have never seen, for entry into its hallowed portals for communion and absolution. No wonder they think we're stupid.

[Chester]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
I listened to just a little last Wednesday and just a little now of Drake's radio show. I'm sorry, but for me the militia is just not the answer. When it comes down to the bottom line, I just don't like using guns or violence to stand up for what I believe in.

I'm still very interested in what Cobra and David Wilcock have to say, but I don't believe I'll be personally tuning in to Drake much anymore.

I knew you would come around (like I did). Sounds like you are being true to yourself. Good. justoneman

[foreverfan]

From DivineCosoms.com

O MASS ARREST BY MILITARY
THEY HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES OBSOLETE!

Well what a let down, as per Drakes show, he has basically said the military are not going to do anything. the show then suddenly got cut off after 110 mins after him an Minuteman have called for malitia to go an arrest and "grab" people in the middle of the night. i would say Minute and Drake are going to get a visit from some people very soon an probably end up in cuffs or shot in a gun fight.

Well well well, the US military is now not stepping up to the plate, because they are so incompetent they cant even work out who is a patriot and on the side of good or who is in the dark, so they wont now do what they have been stating they will all along.

So my question is to you, WHAT GOOD ARE THEY? all they seem capable of is destruction! if they cant take positive action in anyway then they have OFFICIALLY DECLARED themselves obsolete and can now only be regarded as nothing more than a violent and destructive organisation, lol organised.

So now they are obsolete, they should only be used for logistic transportation of material and construction labourers nothing more.
For so long now, Drake an co have been saying the cavalry / military are on their way to take action an commence mass arrests but now they back off an say "nobody is coming to save you, you have to do it yourself" well thats a complete reversal. As for everybody doing it themselves, how do you think that is going to happen now then, because the only people who are in the know of this knowledge of what is really going on are people who have been aware for ages, all other public have no idea about this "unless the military take control of airwaves and play their videos" (like they said they would do.) so how are people meant to stand up an let the military know if they are completely unaware ?

This is a travesty on behalf of the military and now, the messengers, nothing you have been saying is going to happen, so the past months have been a waste of time for all listeners, it is obvious now it is all rumour / a lot of hot air and no evidence of action promised. thanks for wasting everyone time.

I wont say god help the world, or jesus save us because he a mythical man in with a white beard doesn't exist, and jesus wasn't a real man either in that context, the closet your come to him is Julius Cesar, it was all a lie but the roman cult.

So i would suggest everybody just ignore this nonsense now, and find a quite place off the grid and connect to the source by yourself an try to ascend due to the fact your so called cavalry is NOT coming, i would feel deceived an lied to an utterly disappointed if i were you Americans.

[Christine]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
From DivineCosoms.com

O MASS ARREST BY MILITARY
THEY HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES OBSOLETE!

Thanks foreverfan -

Could you clarify where on Divine Cosmos this is written? It isn't clear to me. Thanks.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
From DivineCosoms.com

O MASS ARREST BY MILITARY
THEY HAVE DECLARED THEMSELVES OBSOLETE!

Well what a let down, as per Drakes show, he has basically said the military are not going to do anything. the show then suddenly got cut off after 110 mins after him an Minuteman have called for malitia to go an arrest and "grab" people in the middle of the night. i would say Minute and Drake are going to get a visit from some people very soon an probably end up in cuffs or shot in a gun fight.

Well well well, the US military is now not stepping up to the plate, because they are so incompetent they cant even work out who is a patriot and on the side of good or who is in the dark, so they wont now do what they have been stating they will all along.

So my question is to you, WHAT GOOD ARE THEY? all they seem capable of is destruction! if they cant take positive action in anyway then they have OFFICIALLY DECLARED themselves obsolete and can now only be regarded as nothing more than a violent and destructive organisation, lol organised.

So now they are obsolete, they should only be used for logistic transportation of material and construction labourers nothing more.
For so long now, Drake an co have been saying the cavalry / military are on their way to take action an commence mass arrests but now they back off an say "nobody is coming to save you, you have to do it yourself" well thats a complete reversal. As for everybody doing it themselves, how do you think that is going to happen now then, because the only people who are in the know of this knowledge of what is really going on are people who have been aware for ages, all other public have no idea about this "unless the military take control of airwaves and play their videos" (like they said they would do.) so how are people meant to stand up an let the military know if they are completely unaware ?

This is a travesty on behalf of the military and now, the messengers, nothing you have been saying is going to happen, so the past months have been a waste of time for all listeners, it is obvious now it is all rumour / a lot of hot air and no evidence of action promised. thanks for wasting everyone time.

I wont say god help the world, or jesus save us because he a mythical man in with a white beard doesn't exist, and jesus wasn't a real man either in that context, the closet your come to him is Julius Cesar, it was all a lie but the roman cult.

So i would suggest everybody just ignore this nonsense now, and find a quite place off the grid and connect to the source by yourself an try to ascend due to the fact your so called cavalry is NOT coming, i would feel deceived an lied to an utterly disappointed if i were you Americans.

This has all been a puppet show. The military was never involved. Just a few people spinning fantasies on the internet. That is all it ever was.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
i would feel deceived an lied to an utterly disappointed if i were you Americans.

Hey foreverfan, I voted a Bush for President four times, don't feel too bad...

[Zencat]

The latest from Drake on his FB page:

Our Government has declared WAR on We The People.
U.N. Small Arms Treaty in its basis is unconstitutional and NOT allowed to be legislated, or brought up for a vote.
>Vote against it or those who vote for it are committing an act of high treason.
Due to Inaction by our military, We The People are forming groups to work with the sheriff, FBI, etc., in order to free ourselves by arresting the bad guys.
T.P.P. Treaty, Law of The Sea Treaty, all unlawful presentations by those who would rule over us all.
>Our show was CUT OFF because we are taking on those in power.
Taking out the Church web sites because they disagreed with no freedom of religion.
No freedom of speech...
Small arms Treaty, no rights to guns...means no way to protect your family or against a government that is oppressive.
BTW- Citizens can make an arrest...
You decide what your freedom means to you, and what you are willing to spend on that freedom.
>GIT-R-DONE!<

He is basically asking people to go out and make citizen's arrests.

Methinks, this doesn't bode well for Drake's future in predicting events!

Whiskey_Mystic is right on the money. The US military never intended to be a part of this from the beginning.