Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[bennycog]

yes we feel they are real.. we have the whistleblowers and pictures of big drill rigs.. we have the secrecy and intuition..
d.u.m.b.s are surely there for a reason..
ill just have to say that i feel they know from manevolent and benevolent sources of the extra-terrestrial community..
and they have givin them the scenerios that they need to avoid..
some choose to try to manifest these scenerios for control over the populace..
some choose to try to avoid the destruction..
some sleep
some are over it, fed up and ready to move on......

[Mulder]

On the Project Blue Beam Roundtable, a viewer asked if they know if "Nibiru" is to pass Earth on Aug 17 & leaving outward bound on Sept 26th (- according to Dr Deagle's radio show). Courtney Brown disagreed & said Nibiru is is a brown dwarf star and would show up on infra-red if it was that close. George Lo Buono agreed with Courtney.
Mike Harris said it's not Nibiru, but it is a "planetry sized object." He was told to expect earthquakes and tidal waves between Aug 17 and 26 Sept. George Kavassilas agreed and said that the Earth is surrounded by spaceships that are invisible as they are in a frequency we can't perceive and this could be true for Nibiru.

N.B. Zecharia Sitchin stated before he died in 2010 that Nibiru was still 1200 years away in its outer orbit!

Personally, I feel there's so much controversy that it's hard to determine the truth about most subjects.

[modwiz]

Posted by Mulder (here)

Personally, I feel there's so much controversy that it's hard to determine the truth about most subjects.

Which is why we would all benefit greatly from learning more about a subject that althought equally mysterious can be approached without controversy.

Ourselves.

The never ending work that few have even seriously begun. The wonders that would follow from such work are the same we attribute to other causes. The possibility of a wondrous world are real, many of the proposed paths are not. Most are distractions from the actual work to be done. It is easier, and more fun, to talk endlessly about things than do them.

Talking about building a house will not keep one dry.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I cannot imagine a civilization that would expend such massive resources in recording the history of the Anunaki on earth, like the Sumerians did, if it was only an allegorical story. Embossed on thousands of clay tablets and adorning countless implements and weapons, the Sumerians tell of "The gods that from heaven to earth came". In exacting detail, this high civilization lists the antics of these gods, these aliens, as they search for and exploit the natural resources of our planet, predominantly gold. They are explicit in the writings that the Anunaki "gave" them their civilization: taught them agriculture, metallurgy, high rise building, astronomy, and other high knowledge.

And since I cannot imagine a civilization that would make up stories and then record those lies for posterity - and spend so much resources doing so - and be so prolific about it as to leave hundreds of thousands of clay tablets around for those that came after to find. Since I cannot believe it, I must believe they recorded the truth. And once I accept that as fact, then my conclusion becomes simple: aliens have come here and they have taught us what we know, for better or worse, about reality. Also, if one race from the stars has been here, other races have most likely also visited us. And if they visited us in the past, there is absolutely no reason to suppose that alien races are not here today, amongst us.

I am not sure where the weak point in this premise is, or even if there is one. I accept the writings of ancient peoples as valid because man is not a superstitious beast but a highly sensitive creature with powers that extend into the other dimensions we cannot see. Part of the reason we do not know of our own potential is the fact that other races of beings do not wish us to know - and have made sure we are mislead in this regard.

These alien beings have created of us a race of slave beings: small, weak and ignorant. It all fits and it all makes sense from that perspective. No other argument gives the same impact to the hard questions that plague us in this modern world. Why is there poverty? Why are there so many wars? Why can we not configure a financial system that benefits all? Why do we rape and pillage this world, and lay waste to the natural world? Why is there so much misery and suffering? Why are there so many sick and dying of so many diseases? We can see, using this model, that in fact those in power want poverty, wars, fiat money, pollution, expoitation, pain and disease and death. They are the things that keep us divided, keep us struggling in fear, looking out for ourselves at the expense of others and the like.

We have been duped, and it will take a massive effort, in honest earnestness, to gather together as a race and stop the travesties that have been visited upon us.

[truth4me]

I do believe there are D.U.M.B. bases all over America and I'm sure rest of the world also. They were built for some reason.

[jackovesk]

DEVELOPING STORY: PLANET-SIZED OBJECT COMING NEAR EARTH AUGUST 17TH? Unverified...



Thursday, 19 July 2012 23:33
Written by Kerry Cassidy

Update: 07/20/12 8:25AM:

Just to add to the confusion here is one of the links to John Moore's radio show also announcing Nibiru as "coming soon"... https://youtube.com/watch?v=PUMAu...feature=relmfu

Additional note: John Moore references Robert Harrington was killed shortly after he announced that the 10th planet was a reality.

Excepted from our Project Camelot interview with Luca Scantamburlo regarding Planet X and the Jesuit Priest who gave secret testimony to journalist Cristoforo Barbato.



LS: ..."This is a picture which belongs to a US Naval Observatory. It is in the public domain, in the US Naval Observatory website. The gentleman on the right is Robert Sutton Harrington, an astronomer who worked by the US Naval Observatory. On the left there is his former colleague, [James] Christy, who was the author of the discovery of one of the satellites of Pluto - Charon - in 1978.

BR: Who was Robert Sutton Harrington?

LS: Robert Sutton Harrington was an astronomer involved in the search for Planet X. He wrote several articles about the possible existence of this planet in our solar system. And Zecharia Sitchin is the author of this book, End of Days - Armageddon or Prophesies of the Return, who, in 1990 - August 1990 if I remember well - went to Harrington’s studio at the US Naval Observatory. They talked about the possible presence of another planet, not yet discovered."

It is worth noting that in my prior post from the NSA whistleblower (see below) he states "The system approaching us coming out of the Kuiper Belt (Nibiru) is part of this equation, but this is manageable. " Therefore according to "Z" the Brown Dwarf is in the vicinity of the Kuiper belt... which is not close. Note also that he says "system" which alludes to the Brown Dwarf (2nd Sun) that Camelot witness, Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann told us years ago, is a known fact in the scientific community at this time, which may have planets rotating around it including Nibiru...(see my interview with Andy Lloyd for more on this). Although it is interesting to see that "Z" says it has been "manageable".. whatever that means...

***

Update 07/20/12 3AM: according to one of my trusted sources, the above is not true... This is a psy-op to distract attention away from the more "earthly" problems that will be coming to the fore in the next few months.

***

Original report:

CAUTION URGED: Here's a link to a youtube copy of today's radio program with host Mike Harris, who announced, based on information given to him from a high level source (at the level of General Patreus) in a Foreign Intelligence group, that a "planet sized object" is coming close to the Earth as of August 17th and then moving out of the solar system (after another pass-by?) around September 26th."

I spoke with Mike Harris tonight who was a member of my Camelot Roundtable on Project Blue Beam. In answer to a question from the audience regarding a similar piece of information that has apparently been announced by Dr. Bill Deagle last Friday (and today) that he has a source who talked about the same dates. Mike Harris then came forward on the Ustream and announced that according to his high level source this is indeed true. In other words, both sources are saying the same thing.

I have invited Mike Harris on my radio show tomorrow night on Revolution Radio. He is checking with his source and will let me know if he can accept my offer and whether there is any added information he can release.

All Mike said when questioned for further information is that there will be earthquakes and other affects from this passage. He is urging people to prepare.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I am seeking verification of this information at this time. I cannot confirm that it is accurate in any way. If you have independent verification please get in touch with me kerry@projectcamelot.tv

DEVELOPING STORY.... unconfirmed and unverified.

Be warned that there are often efforts to deceive members of the Alternative Community with bogus information. This could be such a time. This may be an effort to discredit Mike Harris and Dr. Bill Deagle and others who automatically take this information for the truth without further investigation.

From a scientific point of view if such an object were "close" to Earth it would seem to be visible as well as making it's presence known for many months if not years in advance. From the pov of conventional science this information would be considered untrue and misleading.

It may simply be the PTB doing a market research study to see how the information of such magnitude would travel. How it would be handled etc.

MY ADVICE:

BE AWARE. STAY CALM AND WAIT FOR ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

Update: according to one of my trusted sources, the above is not true... This is a psy-op to distract attention away from the more "earthly" problems that will be coming to the fore in the next few months.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerr...nverified.html

[Hervé]

See it fly by here: WhoOooOoo, Real Asteroid Zooming By!

[Nick Matkin]

So none of the thousands of amateur astronomers world wide have seen Nibiru? Not even those with lots of high-tech equipment including infra-red detectors? Or have they ALL been paid to keep quiet?

I don't understand...

[Artworks]

Well zeta talk.com has a great deal to say about the Niburu.

[lizfrench]

Hi, I am a new member here at Avalon, thank you for the opportunity to engage in this forum.
Regarding the upcoming object flying toward earth, here is a quote from the andromedacouncil.com website,:
"This celestial object is an asteroid approximately 6 miles long x 10 miles wide. It is called: "Nahiei Nimi" by the commander of the primary Andromeda Council biosphere in his native language of the planet Dakote. By the astrometric scientists on the Andromeda Council biosphere using the Andromeda, planet Terial, dialect, this asteroid is called: "Ouskaar Nata". Using either set of words it means: "Silver Ray" because when it passes by Earth people will see a huge silver glow around it (about 20 miles around) and it will present a silver tail as it flies by the Earth. Perspective wise, it will appear in the sky to people looking at it from Earth... to be about half the size of a high mid-day sun.
It will not hit Earth, only fly by it at a distance of approximately 450,000 miles from the surface. There is likely to be some minor temporary electromagnetic cause & effects to the planet, tremors and magma flow under the Earth's crust. To quote the commander of the primary Andromeda Council biosphere he said, '...it will just rattle your cage a little.' It is presently located out around Pluto heading into this solar system"

[Mulder]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Mulder (here)

Personally, I feel there's so much controversy that it's hard to determine the truth about most subjects.

Which is why we would all benefit greatly from learning more about a subject that althought equally mysterious can be approached without controversy.

Ourselves.

The never ending work that few have even seriously begun. The wonders that would follow from such work are the same we attribute to other causes. The possibility of a wondrous world are real, many of the proposed paths are not. Most are distractions from the actual work to be done. It is easier, and more fun, to talk endlessly about things than do them.

Talking about building a house will not keep one dry.

I couldn't agree with you more. I've discovered so much about myself this year especially after Venus went retrograde in May. I'm totally shocked that now in my middle age, I review things I've done or failed to do in my youth and feel very differently about myself now. I heard about a Catholic Saint who wanted "self-knowledge" and after he got it, he lived his life in despair! So we have to make sure we don't despair.

[Mulder]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
DEVELOPING STORY: PLANET-SIZED OBJECT COMING NEAR EARTH AUGUST 17TH? Unverified...

It is worth noting that in my prior post from the NSA whistleblower (see below) he states "The system approaching us coming out of the Kuiper Belt (Nibiru) is part of this equation, but this is manageable. " Therefore according to "Z" the Brown Dwarf is in the vicinity of the Kuiper belt... which is not close. Note also that he says "system" which alludes to the Brown Dwarf (2nd Sun) that Camelot witness, Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann told us years ago, is a known fact in the scientific community at this time, which may have planets rotating around it including Nibiru...(see my interview with Andy Lloyd for more on this). Although it is interesting to see that "Z" says it has been "manageable".. whatever that means...

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerr...nverified.html

Courtney Brown confirmed that we are in a binary solar system, in the 2nd half of his "Exploding Planet Recording." He said the brown dwarf is our second sun. He believes this fact is scientifically proven and the powers that be know the location of the brown dwarf and any planets orbiting it (like Nibiru - although, Courtney never explicitly said Nibiru does orbit this brown dwarf).

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Mulder (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)
DEVELOPING STORY: PLANET-SIZED OBJECT COMING NEAR EARTH AUGUST 17TH? Unverified...

It is worth noting that in my prior post from the NSA whistleblower (see below) he states "The system approaching us coming out of the Kuiper Belt (Nibiru) is part of this equation, but this is manageable. " Therefore according to "Z" the Brown Dwarf is in the vicinity of the Kuiper belt... which is not close. Note also that he says "system" which alludes to the Brown Dwarf (2nd Sun) that Camelot witness, Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann told us years ago, is a known fact in the scientific community at this time, which may have planets rotating around it including Nibiru...(see my interview with Andy Lloyd for more on this). Although it is interesting to see that "Z" says it has been "manageable".. whatever that means...

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerr...nverified.html

Courtney Brown confirmed that we are in a binary solar system, in the 2nd half of his "Exploding Planet Recording." He said the brown dwarf is our second sun. He believes this fact is scientifically proven and the powers that be know the location of the brown dwarf and any planets orbiting it (like Nibiru - although, Courtney never explicitly said Nibiru does orbit this brown dwarf).

Incidentally, Avalon's own Onyxknight has also said, based upon what he's learned during ET contacts, that there is a "Sol B" which will eventually be discovered.

About the object....maybe we should have these Bulgarian scientists ask about it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...sts-claim.html

Aliens 'already exist on earth', Bulgarian scientists claim

Aliens from outer space are already among us on earth, say Bulgarian government scientists who claim they are already in contact with extraterrestrial life.

Work on deciphering a complex set of symbols sent to them is underway, scientists from the country's Space Research Institute said.

They claim aliens are currently answering 30 questions posed to them.

Lachezar Filipov, deputy director of the Space Research Institute of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, confirmed the research.

He said the centre's researchers were analysing 150 crop circles from around the world, which they believe answer the questions.

"Aliens are currently all around us, and are watching us all the time," Mr Filipov told Bulgarian media.

"They are not hostile towards us, rather, they want to help us but we have not grown enough in order to establish direct contact with them."

Mr Filipov said that even the seat of the Catholic church, the Vatican, had agreed that aliens existed.

He said humans were not going to be able to establish contact with the extraterrestrials through radio waves but through the power of thought.

"The human race was certainly going to have direct contact with the aliens in the next 10 to 15 years," he said.

"Extraterrestrials are critical of the people's amoral behavior referring to the humans' interference in nature's processes."

The publication of the BAS researchers report concerning communicating with aliens comes in the midst of a controversy over the role, feasibility, and reform of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.

Last week it lead to a heated debate between Bulgaria's Finance Minister, Simeon Djankov, and President Georgi Parvanov.

UPDATE: http://technorati.com/technology/art...contact-falls/

[stomy]

2005: Cornell University Librairy: Mass Limit on Nemesis
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...108317023.html

2009: Cornell University Librairy: Constraints on planet X/Nemesis from Solar System's inner dynamics
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...108319052.html

2012: Saturn, the largest storm seen up-close
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...108373030.html

2012: River networks on Titan point to a puzzling geologic history
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...108371448.html

[Mulder]

Posted by stomy (here)

Massive dark object 'lurking on edge of solar system hurling comets at Earth'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ets-Earth.html

Wow, this headline sounds like a scarey space monster & sure got my attention!

[Hervé]

Posted by Mulder (here)
[...]

He believes this fact is scientifically proven...

[...]

How to get utterly confused in the course of a very short sentence...

If it's a fact, there's no discussion, argument or "belief" possible; it's there staring in your face.

If it's a scientific object, then it remains a hypothesis until said object is discovered and a picture of it can be displayed and therefore it cannot be a "proven" fact till then.

As for the theory and the supporting evidences for the hypothesis of our solar system being a binary star system, from http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml:





Researchers at BRI have noticed a number of problems related to the current theory of precession. While VLBI, laser ranging and other related technologies do a good job at determining the earth’s orientation, the sun’s movement through space has not been coordinated with these findings resulting in unintentional bias of precession inputs. In examining the phenomenon of the precession of the equinox (which was the original impetus for the development of lunisolar precession theory) we have found that a moving solar system model is a simpler way to reproduce the same observable without any of the problems associated with current precession theory. Indeed, elliptical orbit equations have been found to be a better predictor of precession rates than Newcomb's formula, showing far greater accuracy over the last hundred years. Moreover, a moving solar system model appears to solve a number of solar system formation theory problems including the sun's lack of angular momentum. For these reasons, BRI has concluded our sun is most likely part of a long cycle binary system.

A binary system is two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. The stars can be of the same or differing sizes and orbits can be as short as a few days or as long as thousands of years. The short ones are easy to detect, the long ones difficult, some probably impossible to detect because of the very long observation period required.



While there is no obvious visible companion star to our Sun, there could be a dark binary, such as a brown dwarf or possibly a relatively small black hole, either of which might be very difficult to detect, without accurate and lengthy analysis.

There is also the possibility that our sun might be in a binary or complex gravitational relationship with one of several nearby “visible” stars. This scenario may require thinking beyond standard Newtonian dynamics to embrace MOND or MOG or some similar theory (that suggests that the constant of G might be stronger between stellar objects than between planetary objects within the solar system). There could be many types of unknown and unidentified masses that might cause our solar system to curve through space, including the local stellar cluster and even the galactic center to some small degree, each producing some small effect within the total precession observable. Consequently, at this point our work is primarily focused on understanding the precession observable and its nuances as the likely signature of our solar system's angular velocity around some common center of mass. We believe that this approach of analyzing the precession observable (the sun's motion relative to the fixed stars as seen from earth) will provide valuable and helpful data regarding the sun's most likely stellar companion (if one exists).

In summary, beyond direct detection – one way to determine if we are in a binary or multiple star system is to see if the Sun is curving through space. To us on Earth that means we should experience a gradual “changing orientation to inertial space.” Such a phenomenon is observed as the precession of the equinox.


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[truth4me]

I ran into this on youtube. It's an interesting little video. The title says it all yet,as always YOU be the judge....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qcMD03tVWnw

[Operator]

I looked at the video while I currently have no sound (that can be helpful sometimes).

So I am not biased by a narrator ... all I see is flashes of a still image showing an orange orb hanging above the station.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it was a weather balloon. I have seen lots of webcam time lapse shots of this station.
The time lapse motion at least can tell you if something moves together with the stars.

I have contacted the people of the Neumayer station several times before to ask about other controversial pictures.
They are very friendly and every time there is a good explanation. One time we saw people in space- or bio-hazard suits.
It appeared they had a fire drill ... and indeed after the explanation the suits could be identified as such.

Here's a pic from a facebook page:

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

I'm a bit weary on a lot of these toobes atm - most don't link to a source, and most refuse to answer when I ask for one.

No link to source - then suspect!

[stomy]

2012: NASA: The surface of the Greenland ice sheet melt in four days
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...108514722.html

2012: The City College of New York: Greenland Melting Breaks Record Four Weeks Early
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...109154289.html

2012: Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency: A new record minimum of the Arctic sea ice extent
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...109441007.html

NASA: Summer Temperature Anomalies for the Northern Hemisphere, 1955-2011
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...109002910.html

Worldwide Mass Animal Deaths for 2012 & 2011
http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...109180115.html