The Shift: "We Are in 5 D" Dolores Cannon

[white wizard]

Posted by Amysenthia (here)

Posted by Siren Master (here)
I listened to this until the point where Ms. Cannon said we were here to learn. No way I can take this mis-info anymore. Clearly, we have been enslaved and saying it's a learning experience is way too simplistic. And leaves so many obvious un-answered questions. She's a dear woman, to be sure, and I don't doubt her experiences with her lifetime of clients. I, however, can't stomach the puny explanations to make sense of this awful situation where the star people can't help but the bad guys can wreak havok for eons.
Very disappointing to hear this mis-information again.

Those not familiar with DC work do not understand that one of the main things that she lectures about is that we all came from source and we will all return to source. We left source to experience matter for source, (some would call this learning lessons), call it what you will. Eventually all matter will eventually be reabsorbed by the ultimate source whether it does good or bad in the world. (Bad is an experience as much as good). The source looks at it all as part of the whole. Also, try to remember this is all an illusion being experienced for source. The great sage Ramakrishna use to teach his disciples when they asked about the pain and suffering in the world, "remember this life is like a dream. When you are dreaming you experience dream pain, and dream fears that seem very real while you are dreaming. Then you wake up and realize that it has all been a dream".

There is truth to the enslavement statement, but it has been by our own choosing in not seeing the world for what it truly is. When you are ready to free yourself of the illusion you will sit down like many great sages and say I am not going to see the world this way anymore. This will be one more lesson that you are experiencing for the source.

It is dizzying to listen to how this great post has disintegrated into what the word "dimension" entails. As shakespeare says, “ a rose by any other name is still a rose”. I have appreciated the physics lessons that I have observed here today and understand when someone is well versed in a subject that they tend to read too much into statements. I do appreciate the attempts at educating the less physics minded into the proper terminology for dimensions. Now it is time to stop and realize the the term dimension, is being used in a metaphysical sense. Perhaps a better term is at “state”, or “existence”, in reference to 5D being. Let’s leave the 3D science vocabulary out of it all together.

That being said what Delores Cannon speaks of is something that has been predicted in Revelations of the Bible, by Nostradamus and many others. There is a time coming of great change. You will not get an invitation in the mail that says, “Yes YOU are being invited to 5D, so start becoming a vegetarian and get ready”! This is a natural phenomenon that is occurring. I will try to explain from my perspective what is happening in my life. Much as when a tree is growing fruit, the buds will appear and then become a ripe fruit. When ripened enough the fruit will naturally drop from the tree. Or for another example water can become ice, liquid, or vapor. Our 3d earth bodies are in the ice(solid) phase at this point and moving toward the liquid phase to make the 5D jump. After being in the 5D world we will eventually become vaporous (spirit). ( I am sorry if these analogies are not making sense to some).

Those who will make the transition will “ripen” more and more as the time approaches. I know that myself I have recently in the past year become more and more a vegetarian just by food choice. I never actually made a conscious decision I am going to eat less red meat. I guess it occurred to me earlier this year when I was celebrating with some friends at a restaurant famous for their over priced steaks, where we have gone several times, and I was going to order the steak that I had always ordered when I suddenly became nauseous from the smell of roasting meat around me. It was then that it came to me that I have not been eating red meat very much anymore. I ordered a salad and could not wait to leave. Why on this night I had this reaction who knows. What I am trying to say by this example is that the changes that you will want to make are subtle. Just as the fruit drops from the tree when it is ripe you will make changes in your life that will “ripen” you for the time to come. I also notice that I am becoming more telepathic, physic, and have a greater desire to be outdoors and stay away from negative/lower vibrational music, movies, people, etc. I am trying to live every day consciously choosing to express the love vibration in all that I do. I have also experienced all of the symptoms discussed by DC. Ringing in the ears, headaches, various aches and pains that last a day or so and disappear as oddly as they came. Also, the desire to drink water ALL THE TIME. Also, if the water or food that I eat is not purified, or organic I literally almost can't swallow it.

I feel the call from the earth to come with her. I do not feel judgement for those that do not want to go to 5D. Everyone must vibrate to their own innate level. (Kind of like marching to the beat of your own drum). We will all eventually be reabsorbed by source in the end. Remember this is all a play in the scheme of things, live (play) the part that you want to. It is your choice.

Delores was key in transforming my life and taking me out of the fear mode the

alternative media had me locked in for years.


I have read the first three convoluted universe books and it took my understanding of

things to a new level. The main teaching is we are from the source, we are part of the

source and we will return to the source.

I have learned from doing past life readings that I am a level seven old soul. This will be

my last physical incarnation and sometime in the next 50 years I will transform into

a being of light.

If you want to know what is the truth and what is deception ask your higher self.

Earth is in a period of transition and there will be those proclaiming nothing will ever

happen and those saying amazing things will happen. The truth is probably somewhere

in the middle.

The important thing to learn is your life purpose, because that is the main reason you

are here. My life purpose is simple pass on the knowledge I gained from these many

incarnations to a student. I know for me my lessons here are coming to an end for

others there will be more to learn. An interesting thing happened to me recently only

after I decided I was fine with either staying here or going some were else I learned I

would be leaving earth coincidence lol.

[eileenrose]

I listened to part of the interview.

It sounds like she doesn't know herself what is truth. Just says what an entity is telling her to say. So no proof. Just 'entity theories'. Which I don't feel let's her off the hook at all for what she is charging people to hear her say (and they actually believe what she says....rather than look to see what is real and true about this information for themselves.....so in a way....she is playing to the people who are not doing well and hope to do better crowd.....the bread and butter of 'palm reading psychics'). Which if memory serves me accurately, where originally gypsies-ie. palm readers (who are known to use their abilities to lighten people's wallets)....or so I've been told.

But I only listen to 10 short segments. Just enough to show me she is guessing.

[Amysenthia]

Posted by eileenrose (here)
I listened to part of the interview.

It sounds like she doesn't know herself what is truth. Just says what an entity is telling her to say. So no proof. Just 'entity theories'. Which I don't feel let's her off the hook at all for what she is charging people to hear her say (and they actually believe what she says....rather than look to see what is real and true about this information for themselves.....so in a way....she is playing to the people who are not doing well and hope to do better crowd.....the bread and butter of 'palm reading psychics'). Which if memory serves me accurately, where originally gypsies-ie. palm readers (who are known to use their abilities to lighten people's wallets)....or so I've been told.

But I only listen to 10 short segments. Just enough to show me she is guessing.

Her information is based on 1000s of hypnotic regressions all saying the same thing and not coming from one entity. This info in coming from people's Super Consious, not her. That is why she can only tell you what she has been told. The info that she gives about source has been taught as the ultimate truth by many masters through the ages.

I know I always try to listen to an entire interview before passing judgement. There are many DC videos on YOU Tube that are highly recommended viewing. Of course no one has any definitive answers however, when you get unsolicited info by multiple hypnotic sessions from all over the world it begs for some credence.

[Mandala]

Posted by Amysenthia (here)

Posted by Siren Master (here)
I listened to this until the point where Ms. Cannon said we were here to learn. No way I can take this mis-info anymore. Clearly, we have been enslaved and saying it's a learning experience is way too simplistic. And leaves so many obvious un-answered questions. She's a dear woman, to be sure, and I don't doubt her experiences with her lifetime of clients. I, however, can't stomach the puny explanations to make sense of this awful situation where the star people can't help but the bad guys can wreak havok for eons.
Very disappointing to hear this mis-information again.

Those not familiar with DC work do not understand that one of the main things that she lectures about is that we all came from source and we will all return to source. We left source to experience matter for source, (some would call this learning lessons), call it what you will. Eventually all matter will eventually be reabsorbed by the ultimate source whether it does good or bad in the world. (Bad is an experience as much as good). The source looks at it all as part of the whole. Also, try to remember this is all an illusion being experienced for source. The great sage Ramakrishna use to teach his disciples when they asked about the pain and suffering in the world, "remember this life is like a dream. When you are dreaming you experience dream pain, and dream fears that seem very real while you are dreaming. Then you wake up and realize that it has all been a dream".

There is truth to the enslavement statement, but it has been by our own choosing in not seeing the world for what it truly is. When you are ready to free yourself of the illusion you will sit down like many great sages and say I am not going to see the world this way anymore. This will be one more lesson that you are experiencing for the source.

It is dizzying to listen to how this great post has disintegrated into what the word "dimension" entails. As shakespeare says, “ a rose by any other name is still a rose”. I have appreciated the physics lessons that I have observed here today and understand when someone is well versed in a subject that they tend to read too much into statements. I do appreciate the attempts at educating the less physics minded into the proper terminology for dimensions. Now it is time to stop and realize the the term dimension, is being used in a metaphysical sense. Perhaps a better term is at “state”, or “existence”, in reference to 5D being. Let’s leave the 3D science vocabulary out of it all together.

That being said what Delores Cannon speaks of is something that has been predicted in Revelations of the Bible, by Nostradamus and many others. There is a time coming of great change. You will not get an invitation in the mail that says, “Yes YOU are being invited to 5D, so start becoming a vegetarian and get ready”! This is a natural phenomenon that is occurring. I will try to explain from my perspective what is happening in my life. Much as when a tree is growing fruit, the buds will appear and then become a ripe fruit. When ripened enough the fruit will naturally drop from the tree. Or for another example water can become ice, liquid, or vapor. Our 3d earth bodies are in the ice(solid) phase at this point and moving toward the liquid phase to make the 5D jump. After being in the 5D world we will eventually become vaporous (spirit). ( I am sorry if these analogies are not making sense to some).

Those who will make the transition will “ripen” more and more as the time approaches. I know that myself I have recently in the past year become more and more a vegetarian just by food choice. I never actually made a conscious decision I am going to eat less red meat. I guess it occurred to me earlier this year when I was celebrating with some friends at a restaurant famous for their over priced steaks, where we have gone several times, and I was going to order the steak that I had always ordered when I suddenly became nauseous from the smell of roasting meat around me. It was then that it came to me that I have not been eating red meat very much anymore. I ordered a salad and could not wait to leave. Why on this night I had this reaction who knows. What I am trying to say by this example is that the changes that you will want to make are subtle. Just as the fruit drops from the tree when it is ripe you will make changes in your life that will “ripen” you for the time to come. I also notice that I am becoming more telepathic, physic, and have a greater desire to be outdoors and stay away from negative/lower vibrational music, movies, people, etc. I am trying to live every day consciously choosing to express the love vibration in all that I do. I have also experienced all of the symptoms discussed by DC. Ringing in the ears, headaches, various aches and pains that last a day or so and disappear as oddly as they came. Also, the desire to drink water ALL THE TIME. Also, if the water or food that I eat is not purified, or organic I literally almost can't swallow it.

I feel the call from the earth to come with her. I do not feel judgement for those that do not want to go to 5D. Everyone must vibrate to their own innate level. (Kind of like marching to the beat of your own drum). We will all eventually be reabsorbed by source in the end. Remember this is all a play in the scheme of things, live (play) the part that you want to. It is your choice.

Amsenthia , what a beautiful post. Your statements reflect my own sentiment very closely. I have changed over the last 8 or so years, more than I have over the 40 plus before. My views, my diet, my desires, my empathy, my detachment and those deep "gut" feelings. It is out of my control, it is just happening and taking me along for the ride.

I'm not sure what's in store for us, but there is a "knowing" deep inside that my higher self is showing me. I couldn't get off this train even if I wanted to, it is a journey that must be completed. I'm really no longer worried about what's ahead because it will be as it should and I have been given the peace to accept it.

Does anyone else feel this way?

During a meditation about a year ago, I was concerned about how I was changing. I became disillusioned with some friends and relationships and they faded from my life. The agitation of small things in my life all but disappeared. I found myself becoming very forgiving towards people who had wronged or hurt me. This mantra kept popping up, forgive, let it go.
The question I asked during the meditation, was how do I know if I am on the right path? I went to sleep later and awoke (or in a vivid dream state) saw a beautiful glowing, blue Buddha in front of me. "Trust Yourself", was emblazoned in my consciousness. I haven't doubted since then.


Now I must apologize for incorrectly spelling Mrs. Cannon's first name. It is Dolores, not Delores like my co-worker. I meant no disrespect. It would be nice if a moderator could make a change in the title if possible.

Thank you
Peace and love to all
Mandala

[Camilo]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Gotta Love Grandma Cannon. One of My Favs. Wanishi for posting this Sis.

5. Many have desired dietary changes, as vibrations have risen. Hmmm Interesting!

This can mean: stress eating, loss of appetite, elimination of food(s)/group(s) or conscious choice to feed the body with higher energetic foods.

Or like me...mostly holistic choices and then my friends, Ben and Jerry magically appear.

(Maybe I could start by not calling them my friends. Naw...not yet.)

Making a B&J run...

Good one WhiteCrowBlackDeer!

[turiya]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hello,

I´ll believe it when I see some someone walking through a wall.

When one lives in the 4th spacial dimension, he should be able to do that, let alone the 5th spacial dimension.

Cheers,

Raf.

RMorgan, perhaps, will this do?

Dimensional Being Caught on Cell Phone:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...on_cell_phone/

turiya

[Humble Janitor]

Ridding oneself of negative influence is one way of "cleansing" at this point.

[eileenrose]

re: "Her information is based on 1000s of hypnotic regressions all saying the same thing and not coming from one entity." from Amysen.

Do you happen to be an entity?
So how do you know what one is?

I have met one (telepathically). And it is the hardest energy manifestation to deal with. It is a very foreign energy signature. Very un-human. So it begs the question, what are they and why give us any information?.

Every channel (human) comes up with reasons they are channeling....then they take money from people. So two things, they don't say who they are channeling (in a way we can relate with) and two, they have taken financial means from someone who could have used the money to buy basic needs.

Right now, everyone thinks in the USA that we can afford to buy our way to happiness. As I deal with stress out friends and acquaintances who have become addicted to over-spending, I come here, to this forum to take a break. But all I get are more people selling more stuff (without remorse). Very little is freely offered because people gave up giving a long time ago and learn to be takers.

So I have two issues with Delores, and I didn't even have to look into all her many out there ideas to get there. As I have research all 'out there' ideas already from hundreds (thousands) of previous posters contributions. Which were freely available.

Delores makes money by telling people what they want to hear and the entity feeds off their energies. Each are getting what they want.

See why I didn't feel like getting into this type of conversation. It just leads to conflict and people trying to have their beliefs reinforced, so they feel better over the energies they've given her and the entities she host.

I perfer the pure-ness of Native American rituals where everyone is so in tune with the planet that they don't have demon sucking entities tailing them all over the place (how I see Delores).

But that is just me (who see's people's energy signatures).

If it was really working, all the blessings she is giving (that is what she is indicating, that we are blessed....which sounds awfully nice doesn't it? almost criminally so), she wouldn't sound depressed energically (to my keen sense of such things).

I think people are drawn to her in particular, over other channelers because she has the aura of a grandmother (a previous life incarnation), which she is avoiding dealing with currently (by 'outsourcing' her work to foreign entities).



Answer those questions and you have your answers Amy., otherwise this is all pure entertainment for loose minds.

[Mandala]

Thank you mods for correcting the spelling. It is appreciated!

[we-R-one]

Posted by Iceberg (here)

Posted by we-R-one (here)
Not so fast...let me reverse that question on you....in the same manner, you are "buying" into a current belief system that has been dictated to you as to being the one truth....so do you "buy it" because that is what someone is telling you to be the only truth?

The secret ( truth) stays well hidden between two lies. On one hand PTB and this system of lies and on the other hand false prophets full of nonsense predictions and lies ( for different reasons). You think believing these false prophets will get you anywhere? I'm affraid you only will get far away from truth.

Iceberg,

You are misunderstanding if you think my awareness is all based on what a prophet hands out as fact. I speak from personal experience. Besides I don't look at any of these people as "prophets", that is only you trying to coin them as such. I think for myself and that is not to say I can't look to others for information....we all do that, as currently none of us are entirely capable of knowing everything about all that is, even yourself. The definition I posted from Jelaila Starr resonates with me through my own experiences and discoveries of frequency, state of consciousness and energy concepts of a metaphysical nature which is why I share it. It has nothing to do about getting me anywhere, so why you are even interjecting that comment is beyond me as it has nothing to do with the conversation. I think it's sad that many of these people who take the time to study and share information with the greater good, are continually labeled as guru's and prophets. They are us, they are human, walking their own path as they see fit. It is up to us as individuals to decide if their information resonates in a fashion that has merit;.... but for the love of pete, let's get away from beating these poor souls up. Glory be to them for having the balls to step up to the plate to share what they have learned, even if it means taking risks now and then because what they say isn't understood by the masses. And if they should fall, crumble to the ground, make errors in judgment, I for one will no longer condemn these individuals as I know they are walking a spiritual path in the manner that they see fit for their soul and I can only love and respect someone for having the courage to do that, with the same hope that I will be respected in return(for those that understand, see where that thought process can be reflected back through the concepts of holographic universe...change the way you think).

The point I'm trying to make is, you can believe in any definition that you see fit, and based on what you believe, can and will determine the type of reality you wish to see or have happen. So for those who really get what I'm saying, will also understand that there's not always going to be "one truth". Your belief system is what dictates your reality and deems what you believe to be true, but science will show you that by changing your beliefs you can change your reality.

There's one video that comes to mind which I think is quite fitting to this conversation. Many of you have probably all ready seen it, but if not, check it out. Here Gregg Braden shows how Chinese doctors heal a woman who has cancer. Through their thought process and "definition" of what they think a specific word means, they are able to chant this word and make the woman's tumor disappear. This is done on camera. Gregg specifically states "there is no magic in the word, it could be any word". Watch and he will explain in more depth how this is done.

CURING CANCER USING OUR OWN TECHNOLOGY OF EMOTION

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fmMNlmn1DPc

Please open yourself to what I'm saying. I'm not attacking you, only trying to help expand your knowledge, and hey, I'm not a prophet, so all the more reason you should take interest in what I'm saying, as I am you. Heart-centered is the key and by changing the way we think- and this includes definitions of words, we can change our reality for the better.........at least by the laws of this universe....lol.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Raf, agreed on the communication point from definitions as stated

"Redifining" words goes down that trail of confusion where "war" is in "fact" "peace"... etc...

No one prevents anyone to "coin" new terms with their definitions to describe "new" realities. Hence that debate of ascribing "belief" in a system for refusing to "redifine" the meaning/definition of a word as originally defined is a complete moot point and a strawman: create a new word!

I would certainly be in favor of coining new words, if they added something in the way of understanding, but I have to say I disagree with the bit above about using pre-existing words in different ways is necessarily "redefining". When you look at any dictionary, there are multiple meanings for most words. Those meanings have accumulated over many centuries. And if you pull out the Oxford English Dictionary, you can read all about a word's etymological history and all the ways its meaning has morphed and mutated. I think it is the nature of language to do this, just as it is the nature of human beings to do this to language. Adding a new meaning for a word for a new and different context does not invalidate the meanings already in usage. Though some meanings can fall out of circulation by lack of use.

I very much agree! You can look no further than how law is practiced- it's an entire play of words. You have several editions of the the Black Law's Dictionary and depending on what year the case had been argued determines what dictionary to use and the appropriate definition of the terms for that time period. This is merely a form of control- meaning they change the rules of the game by changing the meanings....and if you think about it....does that not change one's reality? lol

Density:

This definition would apply to the metaphysical usage as well. Except it goes beyond the materialist understanding of that defintion, and has a bit of a different focus. I've said before that I like the explanation given in the Law of One books. You might disregard that stuff, but it should be noted that Don Elkins, who took part in the channeling sessions, held four university degrees, and was a professor of physics and engineering at the University of Louisville. He questioned Ra pretty thoroughly about these topics. As far as I know, it was the Law of One channelings that first popularized the use of the term density in the way I'm talking about it, so they seem relevant to mention when discussing it. When Elkins asked Ra to define "density" in the way he was using it, this is what was answered:

Questioner: Could you define the word density as we have been using it?

Ra: I am Ra. The term density is a, what you would call, mathematical one. The closest analogy is that of music, whereby after seven notes on your western type of scale, if you will, the eighth note begins a new octave. Within your great octave of existence which we share with you, there are seven octaves or densities. Within each density there are seven sub-densities. Within each sub-density, seven sub-sub-densities, and so on infinitely.

So, Ra was talking about vibration as well. It's just that what Ra called "3rd density" was just the 3rd vibratory level/note of 7 in this "octave". The 8th being the beginning of the next octave. What I think Ra is saying is that everything is energy vibrating at various frequencies, this energy is essentially consciousness (for the lack of a better word - infinite, all-pervading, intelligent awareness), the consciousness of the creator, fragmented, distorted, filtered and conditioned in endless ways.

This is why when Ra separates the various densities, it's talked about as levels of consciousness. 1st density is inanimate matter, which Ra describes as being conscious in a way, like consciousness that is asleep. 2nd density is everything from single celled organisms (plants/animals) to the most intelligent animals we know of like chimps and dolphins. 3rd density is us. So, the first three densities overlap and coexist on this planet. Again, Ra talks about consciousness, because, in that view, everything *is* consciousness.

What's being said above from RA is very similar to the definition of dimension that I posted earlier. Raf and Amzer Zo are most likely correct coming from a 3D perspective, but once you step outside of that reality the terminology doesn't always necessarily comply.

It can be difficult to follow and understand, and personally for myself I leave the door open for errors of judgment since we are all trying to make sense of what really is.

[donk]

Do you happen to be an entity?

Heh, silly me, i thought we ALL were?

The money thing again....I discerned much good information out of your post, where it seems to me you focusing on DC's "gypsy-ness"

Dont throw the baby out with the bath water. I did that w baby Jesus, just cuz I focused on all the control structure built into Christianity...missed out on a lot of good stuff. I'll take my info from a 4th dimensional deranged demon dressed in a Barney costume on a unicycle all hopped up on goofballs if that's who is giving it, then use discernment to see if it gave me anything of value.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. To experience what you want in this lifetime, $ makes it possible. I would like to know more about the entities you see trailing and the energy signature you feel from her. I appreciated what you did contribute about her message, which i found much more valuable than another "only Jesus like (broke) teachers are valid"...I understand and sympathize to a degree with that. But what does she say that makes you feel she intends to fool the fools?

I have no desire to have my beliefs reinforced, I am sincerely interested in understanding yours...

[bogeyman]

The shift has certainly been noticable in my life, what I excepted before, the way I was treated and the stagnation has pasted. It wasnt pleasent when the changes started to occur. But I will say it was like a cleansing.

[Mandala]

Bogeyman, I too have felt the changes. Many people have told me the same thing.