Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Watching from Cyprus]

Hi Gemini,

Thank you. A year ago or so i listened to Robert Morning sky/star (you can youtube search interviews with him... pick the newer ones) . He believes as well that when our bodies die, we are guided towards the light, and this light deletes our memories of our past. In other words empties the folder into the recycle bin ;-) . Robert says this is a part of the deceit, and he will turn away from the light and find his star, when it is his turn, since we all have a star...

If you dont know who Robert Morning sky/star is, he is a native american and his father or grand father saw a UFO crashing when he was a young man, where him and a few of his friends saved one of the "Aliens" who found good in the natives although not having much good thoughts about humanity in general (we are dangerous and not good in their point of view), and in turn told them who and what we are... Robert is talking about Enki and Ra (Enki's Son) . Ra making a pact with a Reptilian Queen from Orion, to control the human race by removing our free will, which Ra's father Enki had given us....

For me the puzzle is coming together, and i hope it is too for all of you out there.

I don't feel i belong here on this parasite infected planet. Human's in general has been infected with the Egoistic Greed Parasite , so i really welcome a cleansing as long as the cabal all will perish . Gaya, mother earth, i am truly sorry.. save yourself and shake your back.

In love to nature
Peter

Posted by Gemini (here)
Maybe this could shed some light on the issue:

http://psitalent.de/Englisch/Karma1.htm

Karma Fraud and Soul Recycling

Many years when working as a healer, like many other spiritual people, I was convinced that karma was a rightful thing. My healing-sessions were based on that belief. It was in 2000 in a discussion with a clairvoyant when I suddenly knew I was wrong. I understood that there were (many) cases where karma could unjustly be added to a soul.

In the article (see links) about Susan Reed’s book “The body snatchers” a Reptilian called “Ettish” reveals that the Reptilians have at least two criminal ways of altering human karma. He talks about the “spirit-capturing-net”, which stops highly developed souls from leaving the planet in order to recycle that soul into a new set of earth-lives by adding new karma. The second fraud is that they can alter our so called “Akasha-records” (they need the aid of other beings to do that). Well, Reptilians love to lie and we can never trust them, but these statements just confirm what I found out eight years ago.

I am not able to put more words down here to convince you. When I understood it, it just made click in my head and I knew. And that’s the way it works. I have a lot of comments about this topic, but I will post them apart and some time later, because I don’t want your consciousness to get lost in too many details.

Just be aware of:

If you find yourself or other people in deep ****
that does not automatically mean that you or they deserve it,
because of things you did in former lives.

It can be this way and it can not be this way.

[wynderer]

i've been following this thread of Houman's w/interest, esp appreciating Daughter of Time & Justoneman's honest & thoughtful posts

re the recent discussion of karma/personal responsibility/etc -- i am an abductee, & i can't even begin to tell you the number of times i have been told that i 'agreed' to being abducted, &/or that i somehow karmically earned it, or that i am spiritually deficient in some way & thus opened the door to abductions [including accusations that i choose to live in a 'victim' mode]

i generally lose my temper when given one of these stock responses -- but lately i am understanding that all these explanations for my abductions arise from the buried fear in each person that 'if this can happen to her, it can happen to me too!' --hence the rationales putting all responsibilty for my abductions squarely on my doorstep

i think that Earth Humans excel at the art of buryng heads in sand, aka denial -- esp re the undeniable fact that there are many beings on this planet, both 3D & others, who do not play the game by the rules of Love -- & who do not respect the Creator-given gift of free will -- spiritually dark/dense beings -- at the lowest levels, at the center, very dark & evil

a survivor of the nazi German camps said, 'It was not just the absence of Light there -- it was the presence of evil' [ if the word 'evil' sets the denial bells ringing, think of it as 'live' spelled backwards -- i think most would agree that there seems to be a lot of anti-Life stuff going on here right now ]

re karma -- i call what is going on in this matrix-ensnared Earth a hideous karmic time loop -- reincarnation doesn't do much good if you can't remember your past lives

on a lighter happier topic --Happy Birthday, DoT -- thank you for your story of the 2 Angels -- i'd like to share w/you a story of my own meeting w/one i felt was an Angel

i was working at the time at a religious non-profit /charity in a small town in this FingerLakes area -- i was happy to get the job, as supposedly this org helped poor & struggling people --

to make a long story short -- while i was working there, the County branch of this org brought in a new CEO , thru ads in the Wall St Jounal & the NYT, when they were rightfully fearful of being sued [setting him up as the fall guy]-- the new CEO didn't last long, & all that he said about leaving to a mutual friend was that 'there was something evil there' -- i agreed

so -- i was taking a smoke break outside on the main street of the town -- i saw a man walking down the street towards me -- there was that kind of little warping feeling i get when seeing things/being not strictly of this dimension -- my mental impression was that he looked like a working man from the 1930s -- & i could see he was a traveler

he stopped & asked me if he could use the kitchen in the 'charity' i was standing in front of [a nice new kitchen! & all the women who worked there had nice new cars & clothes, in one of the poorest counties in NY state] -- i went in to ask the boss -- she said 'No'

it was painful to me to have to go back out & tell him 'No' -- tho i did offer to let him use my stove when i got off for lunch -- he said, 'No thank you,' asked me my name, smiled, & held my hand -- i was blessed w/healing energy coming thru him to me

then he took off -- & a short way up the street, he disappeared in front of my eyes --
i have thought since that he was coming to give the people who worked there a chance to get back on the path towards the Light [ i am happy to say that i found another job at a printers, & was able to tell the 'charity' boss & her gang one fine morning, 'Take this job & shove it' & walk out the door ]

wyn

[heyokah]

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Hi Gemini,

Thank you. A year ago or so i listened to Robert Morning sky/star (you can youtube search interviews with him... pick the newer ones) . He believes as well that when our bodies die, we are guided towards the light, and this light deletes our memories of our past. In other words empties the folder into the recycle bin ;-) . Robert says this is a part of the deceit, and he will turn away from the light and find his star, when it is his turn, since we all have a star...

If you dont know who Robert Morning sky/star is, he is a native american and his father or grand father saw a UFO crashing when he was a young man, where him and a few of his friends saved one of the "Aliens" who found good in the natives although not having much good thoughts about humanity in general (we are dangerous and not good in their point of view), and in turn told them who and what we are... Robert is talking about Enki and Ra (Enki's Son) . Ra making a pact with a Reptilian Queen from Orion, to control the human race by removing our free will, which Ra's father Enki had given us....

For me the puzzle is coming together, and i hope it is too for all of you out there.

I don't feel i belong here on this parasite infected planet. Human's in general has been infected with the Egoistic Greed Parasite , so i really welcome a cleansing as long as the cabal all will perish . Gaya, mother earth, i am truly sorry.. save yourself and shake your back.

In love to nature
Peter

Posted by Gemini (here)
Maybe this could shed some light on the issue:

http://psitalent.de/Englisch/Karma1.htm

Karma Fraud and Soul Recycling

Many years when working as a healer, like many other spiritual people, I was convinced that karma was a rightful thing. My healing-sessions were based on that belief. It was in 2000 in a discussion with a clairvoyant when I suddenly knew I was wrong. I understood that there were (many) cases where karma could unjustly be added to a soul.

In the article (see links) about Susan Reed’s book “The body snatchers” a Reptilian called “Ettish” reveals that the Reptilians have at least two criminal ways of altering human karma. He talks about the “spirit-capturing-net”, which stops highly developed souls from leaving the planet in order to recycle that soul into a new set of earth-lives by adding new karma. The second fraud is that they can alter our so called “Akasha-records” (they need the aid of other beings to do that). Well, Reptilians love to lie and we can never trust them, but these statements just confirm what I found out eight years ago.

I am not able to put more words down here to convince you. When I understood it, it just made click in my head and I knew. And that’s the way it works. I have a lot of comments about this topic, but I will post them apart and some time later, because I don’t want your consciousness to get lost in too many details.

Just be aware of:

If you find yourself or other people in deep ****
that does not automatically mean that you or they deserve it,
because of things you did in former lives.

It can be this way and it can not be this way.

Thank you Gemini and Watching from Cyprus.

I thought just pushing the "thanks" button wasn't enough.

[heyokah]

Posted by observer (here)
We all exist within an 'Electric Universe'.

There are many theories regarding when, and under what circumstances this particular reality began. I prefer the idea that it was turned-on, much like a switch turns on an electric appliance.

I've come to realize that this particular universe was created as a place to keep Evil away from the Unconditional Love that exists in other dimensions, i.e., other universes. This place was created as sort of a stop on the 'road to oblivion' where Evil is allowed to thrive in any way it desires. This, in synchronization with the Cosmic Law of 'Free Will'. I can point at the mythologies of antiquity which all seem to abstractly agree, there is some sort of "fallen" that kinda/sorta runs the show here.

An excellent source of foundational understanding in this area is Dr. Joseph P. Farrell in his book, 'Yahweh, the Two-Faced God'. Here's an excellent interview with Farrell in 'Offplanet Radio', shining great clarity on this issue:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CzMaQPZi2Z4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CzMaQ...ure=plpp_video

I also subscribe to the understanding that Humanity was a creation of these 'Fallen'.

It is profusely clear, from the records of antiquity, that the Mass of Humanity was created as a slave race by these archonic demigods. Upon a review of the record regarding sacrifice to these archonic demigods, it becomes apparent the Mass of Humanity was created to be nothing more than a food crop to these archons. All one need do is research the Nag Hammadi Library to confirm as evidence that the Nazarene Essenes (What is commonly referred to as early 'Gnostic Christians') were well aware of archons.

A member, who wishes to remain anonymous, recently sent me a link to an individual, Doctor J. Chiappalone, who has been talking about archons since the late 90s. His message is confirming to what I've suggested in the above comment, although I've come to much of these conclusions through my own research.

Doctor J. Chiappalone's website:

http://jchiappalone.com/page1.php

Scroll-down the page and find a list of interviews on the Jeff Rense Show

Thank you observer for your informative post.

I would like to add another link to an article of Doctor J. Chiappalone which I got from observer earlier.
I think it is very much worth reading.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...a_matrix21.htm

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[9eagle9]

No its not that people earn or deserve these sorts of occurrences. That is just ignorant people talking their ignorance.

The agreement thing is also misunderstood. An agreement is something that you are unconsciously allowing (not inviting in) based on wound that has compromised your psyche. A physical alien abduction is no different than a person who carries a wound based attachment. One is direct interference and sabotage the other is covert sabotage. You didn't consciously agree to that, but the artificial installation that is our mind, allowed it. These things are very covert. Of course if presented with "Hey you should be abducted by an alien" we are going to say " Screw that!" We wouldn't agree to it.

So it has to occur in that compromised area that we are not conscious of.

When I had an abduction attempt made whatever it was, I was in the process of self healing so it happened at a point where I could have succumbed to it, or ...I could have thwarted it. I ended up with the latter so it didn't occur. The ability to thwart the attempt was healing on it's own. A direct expression of my own will and power. But if had occurred....more trauma would have been inflicted.

People who are coming to a point of self realization some sort of hi-jacking is required, direct abduction, direct interference, because one is becoming SELF realized--a threat. You may take the free lunch program away.

We often abduct or sabotage ourselves, with no external influence, or overt abduction, because of what we are unaware of going on in our mind. And those are doors we have the ability to close. There's not a real big difference between the two save for severity.

The concept or program of Karma was created to replace another god program, the god of the OT. Something that dispensed reward and punishment based on what deeds you did . As long as we feel 'something' has control over us....it also play on that need for humans to have something controlling their lives. Compromise you and then replace it with a director.

Someone posted a link to an article about creating private physical prisons. Physical containment. Psyche speaking, we are in a remote containment system.

The Buddhist heart sutras are bit closer to what karma is. It's our wounds and trauma we don't heal, carried from one life time to another. That leaves us open to being compromised. It was called removing dust from your soul or your template. So that didn't keep unconsciously allowing or attracting certain circumstances. We attract the same circumstances over again. Archeyptical circumstances.

A wolf will stalk a sheep. If a sheep suddenly decides its lot in life isn't to be prey animal and turns on the wolf the circumstances are changed. What has to happen within the sheep to allow it to take a stand?

Karma as it is currently exploited is a means of spreading and intensifying compromising situations. "I deserved that, its my karma."

Its a means taking away tribute from the creation matrix, from creation and assigning tribute to the new parasitical god Karma. Something good happened to me, thats my karma. When we events like what Daughter of Time described that is allowing divine intervention, not because some fraudulent artificial god construct decided to notice you.

There is the opposite value.

That is where we are truly agreeing to these sorts of circumstances. That just deepens the wound. People seem to think because something bad happens their karma clears. It doesn't , it intensifies.

Clearing karma is just self healing--healing what has been compromised or sabotaged previously.


And people will tell as someone alluded to earlier not to remove or interfer with these things because one is inviting in bad karma. Thats a program that was created to protect that which would steal from us! That's just advice that keeps this remote containment in place. The matrix going on inside of us.

[9eagle9]

Conversely every time 'bad karmic' events are visited on us, its an opportunity and even a reminder to clean our crud up.

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
And what about all the starving, frightened, imprisoned, institutionalized, tortured, tormented inhabitants of this planet? Are they all paying for their karma? Or are they victims of dark forces who are having a field day at their expense? Did those people call upon the dark forces at some point, perhaps unintentionally? I imagine that's possible. But from personal experiences, I see the injustice in this world and no one will convince me that we all get exactly what we deserve. Hopefully, eventually, we all will get what we deserve, but at this point in time on planet earth, such justice seems to be painfully lacking.

Hi Daughter of Time,

once again your story had me on the edge of my seat (as well as the one from Finefeather above yours).
There was a thread where Karma was discussed as a side track, which made more sense to me then most of the things people take for truth as Karma.

This lady, who has had a Near death experience tells us what she learned about karma, while being clinical death.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Oo8szDkpcsM

Looking at Karma this way, there is no guilt or 'debt to pay' for things we did in one life and bringing upon ourselves in another life.
Yes there are things we want to learn or experience and if we resist to do it in the life that we planned for, we bring the wish to another life where we have another go at it.
No guilt and no punishment. That's the way that rings true to me!

[Gemini]

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Hi Gemini,

Thank you. A year ago or so i listened to Robert Morning sky/star (you can youtube search interviews with him... pick the newer ones) . He believes as well that when our bodies die, we are guided towards the light, and this light deletes our memories of our past. In other words empties the folder into the recycle bin ;-) . Robert says this is a part of the deceit, and he will turn away from the light and find his star, when it is his turn, since we all have a star...

If you dont know who Robert Morning sky/star is, he is a native american and his father or grand father saw a UFO crashing when he was a young man, where him and a few of his friends saved one of the "Aliens" who found good in the natives although not having much good thoughts about humanity in general (we are dangerous and not good in their point of view), and in turn told them who and what we are... Robert is talking about Enki and Ra (Enki's Son) . Ra making a pact with a Reptilian Queen from Orion, to control the human race by removing our free will, which Ra's father Enki had given us....

Hi Watching from Cyprus,

Thanks, that sounds very interesting and also seems to tie in with Truman Cash's books. I'm going to listen to his interview(s) when I have the time.

For me the puzzle is coming together, and i hope it is too for all of you out there.

I don't feel i belong here on this parasite infected planet. Human's in general has been infected with the Egoistic Greed Parasite , so i really welcome a cleansing as long as the cabal all will perish . Gaya, mother earth, i am truly sorry.. save yourself and shake your back.

In love to nature
Peter

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think we still have a chance to change for the better as a whole. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by a cleansing but I don't think a massively catastrophic / apocalyptic event is necessary and, considering what supposedly happened some 12,000 years ago (and many times before that), might just bring humanity back to square one. Also, I don't see how removing the human representatives of the cabal from Earth would really solve the problem as the real controllers would not be removed. Then again the root cause probably is ultimately within ourselves. The question imo is will enough people manage to wake up before it's too late?

Gemini

[9eagle9]

There's a lot of stuff happening now, its just people are looking in the wrong direction. This thread emphasizes there's a lot of stuff going on, because a year ago no one would have been talking about what ails us, and what abates that ailment.

There's all sorts of stuff occurring and its not obvious that is showing something is moving. The sun is imposing great deal of influence on ley lines and fields of energy across the globe , fields of energy that have been tampered with by the ptb are now ....well it appears that they are rising closer to the surface, expanding and cycling up to their previous output.

Why are gurus of the world not telling us this? The artificial way we have been gridded in is failing. Could I convince people not to participate in 'gridding' meditations that just serve to prop up a failing reign of power on the behalf of ptb. No I cannot. So how much faster that ley line activity is up to us. That could take quite a long time judging by the behaviors of conduct I observe around me.

They aren't looking in the right places They don't notice subtle changes because they are waiting for the obvious to happen. And its not going to. We have proof of that already. How many hysterically predictive parasitically issued false flags of information have we had just in the last year? The Drakes, the Wilcoxes all their information and prediction fails because its a set up. It's parasitically sourced. They know what we want or at least what we are expecting and leverage it. Create this huge predictive scenario, pick a few ignorant people to pass the message along, and pretty soon everyone is distracted from what is actually going on.

But there's plenty going on. If someone is not noticing this its time to look inward before one looks outward.

[SilentFeathers]

Many are realizing or coming to the realization that what they are observing and what they are being told they are observing are two different things, or a twisted version....in other words, they are learning to trust the "within" more to find clarity.....

This is what tptb are a bit concerned about right now and why they are throwing everything at us in the form of disinfo and lies/events to distract us or confuse us.....it works for the majority, but the few that are seeing through the smoking mirrors are what concerns them the most. The domino effect can go either way IMO.

[Finefeather]

removed to avoid controversy

[wynderer]

quoting from 9Eagle9 here:

When I had an abduction attempt made whatever it was, I was in the process of self healing so it happened at a point where I could have succumbed to it, or ...I could have thwarted it. I ended up with the latter so it didn't occur. The ability to thwart the attempt was healing on it's own. A direct expression of my own will and power. But if had occurred....more trauma would have been inflicted.

interferences from various dark/demonic/astral beings -- no problem for me to stop them

the abductions i am speaking of began when i was 3 or 4 yrs old -- i didn't have a lot of info/knowledge then re what was going on, let alone how to stop them --

they are being continued using technology -- when we all figure out how to stop chemtrails & mind control EMP zaps w/the power of our mind[s] , etc -- then i figure we can stop the abductions also

also mind power/self knowledge does not prevent little children [pure souls, as i recall from one of Houman's posts] from being tortured & sacrificed

i accept that i am on a spiritually dark planet at this time, & that there is much here that i can't change for the better , mostly on the collective level, & a few on the personal -- that's OK -- this is just a temp position

doesn't mean i'm going to stop trying for freedom for all, myself included, tho, while still here

[Hervé]

Posted by Finefeather (here)
[...] Out of every post in the entire Avalon arsenal there has ever only been ONE statement, made by many, scattered around different threads, which can truly be said to be the ABSOLUTE TRUTH....and that is "Look Inside", "Turn inward" "The truth is inside you". Yet we flit around from post to post, thread to thread, seeking enlightenment.

[...]

Personally... I wouldn't be so categorical, although there is SOME truth to it since it is actually the ONLY WAY we, Earth's humans, are left with to be able to disentangle ourselves from the feeder tubes' web.

Why?

Because, since it's the only way one has... it's been effectively, efficiently and continuously plastered with buckshots of confusions and turned into a mine-field that's been booby-trapped to hell!

For example, meditations:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
A bit more, from the same guy, about parasites, predators and gurus:

[...]

I'm not going to mention the guy's name because he's never overtly gone after us; he had a vestigial connection to Steve, that's all. The psychics saw this happening before most of them knew thatSteve had been 'courted' by this guru for years and had taught him a specific meditation technique that's engineered to enslave the more talented adepts under his tutelage.

[...]

So... "going within" with techniques designed by some "new age" or other type of so-called "gurus" to further enslave one... hhhmmm....

Then, there is the whole field of hypnotic, drugs and/or trauma implants that one can't help but run into when "going within" and start acting out the script(s) contained within said implant(s) due to being overwhelmed by it/them.

By the way, these implants, when viewed from the perspective delineated in the video of post # 1357, may give one a clue as to where these archontic and gnostic "discoveries" are coming from... another implant generating its own constructs/golems/tulpas... to keep the "awake and aware" very busy fighting... themselves.

So, again... "going within"... hhhmmm... caveat: many more layers may need to be peeled off from there... which is something 9eagle9 has been valiantly pointing at/out, all over Avalon.

To confuse the matter even more, there are these beings incarnating on Earth coming from who-knows-where and who haven't got any clue as to what Earth's humans are suffering from and who can shot up from here to "source" and profess it's as easy as pie... Huh? Says who?

Accordingly, for Earth's humans, there aren't that many ways out of the booby-trapped mine field of confusions and labyrinths that have no exits.

Henceforth, any "safe" ways to "go and look within?"

Amongst the safest, there's the shaman way as walked by 9eagle9 and Steve Richards (see this thread: Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics)

There is the non-hypnotic memory recovery method as explained by Truman Cash: see post # 1047.

Then there's also Ho'oponopono which leads one in the direction of "Zero Point" where one can view and handle anything that's from one and not from one:

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/hooponopono25jul06.shtml

http://www.idreamcatcher.com/hooponopono/

http://www.ancienthuna.com/ho-oponopono.htm

Any other avenues certified "booby-trap free," welcome.

[Chester]

Posted by Gemini (here)

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Hi Gemini,

Thank you. A year ago or so i listened to Robert Morning sky/star (you can youtube search interviews with him... pick the newer ones) . He believes as well that when our bodies die, we are guided towards the light, and this light deletes our memories of our past. In other words empties the folder into the recycle bin ;-) . Robert says this is a part of the deceit, and he will turn away from the light and find his star, when it is his turn, since we all have a star...

If you dont know who Robert Morning sky/star is, he is a native american and his father or grand father saw a UFO crashing when he was a young man, where him and a few of his friends saved one of the "Aliens" who found good in the natives although not having much good thoughts about humanity in general (we are dangerous and not good in their point of view), and in turn told them who and what we are... Robert is talking about Enki and Ra (Enki's Son) . Ra making a pact with a Reptilian Queen from Orion, to control the human race by removing our free will, which Ra's father Enki had given us....

Hi Watching from Cyprus,

Thanks, that sounds very interesting and also seems to tie in with Truman Cash's books. I'm going to listen to his interview(s) when I have the time.

For me the puzzle is coming together, and i hope it is too for all of you out there.

I don't feel i belong here on this parasite infected planet. Human's in general has been infected with the Egoistic Greed Parasite , so i really welcome a cleansing as long as the cabal all will perish . Gaya, mother earth, i am truly sorry.. save yourself and shake your back.

In love to nature
Peter

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think we still have a chance to change for the better as a whole. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by a cleansing but I don't think a massively catastrophic / apocalyptic event is necessary and, considering what supposedly happened some 12,000 years ago (and many times before that), might just bring humanity back to square one. Also, I don't see how removing the human representatives of the cabal from Earth would really solve the problem as the real controllers would not be removed. Then again the root cause probably is ultimately within ourselves. The question imo is will enough people manage to wake up before it's too late?

Gemini

One of the best, concise (not my forte) posts on this thread. I agree with you fully. Thanks Gemini for saying in few words what I haven't been able to say in volumes. You hit the highlights. justone

[9eagle9]

No the power to protect children comes from the spiritually empowered or self realized adults. Children are self realized, but lacking the authority or experience to defend themselves. Finally that purity is swallowed up by the false realities imposed. I'd suggest that most parents cannot properly protect their children if they cannot even acknowledge what part they are playing in the whole matter.

I agree there is not a whole lot that people can for those who want stay imprisoned.

It is socially unacceptable not to honor parasitical activity. The more we agree to it and allow it the world on a collective level will not change. It is very much protected still. It's protected by those who keep clamoring to be let out of the prison. As much as we like to blame the ptb the greater portion of responsibility lies with the masses for this allowance and acceptance.

Posted by wynderer (here)
quoting from 9Eagle9 here:

When I had an abduction attempt made whatever it was, I was in the process of self healing so it happened at a point where I could have succumbed to it, or ...I could have thwarted it. I ended up with the latter so it didn't occur. The ability to thwart the attempt was healing on it's own. A direct expression of my own will and power. But if had occurred....more trauma would have been inflicted.

interferences from various dark/demonic/astral beings -- no problem for me to stop them

the abductions i am speaking of began when i was 3 or 4 yrs old -- i didn't have a lot of info/knowledge then re what was going on, let alone how to stop them --

they are being continued using technology -- when we all figure out how to stop chemtrails & mind control EMP zaps w/the power of our mind[s] , etc -- then i figure we can stop the abductions also

also mind power/self knowledge does not prevent little children [pure souls, as i recall from one of Houman's posts] from being tortured & sacrificed

i accept that i am on a spiritually dark planet at this time, & that there is much here that i can't change for the better , mostly on the collective level, & a few on the personal -- that's OK -- this is just a temp position

doesn't mean i'm going to stop trying for freedom for all, myself included, tho, while still here

[Houman]

Posted by wynderer (here)
also mind power/self knowledge does not prevent little children [pure souls, as i recall from one of Houman's posts] from being tortured & sacrificed

Yep, I was hesitant to post that...

infant in a ritual
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...r7x0o1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...mp7ho1_400.jpg

man in a ritual
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...lo67o1_500.jpg

note that these rituals are designed to affect the soul and the transition of those involved (the first thing that infant experiences is not the breast of his/her mother but a sudden and painful transition into another realm... is there something/someone waiting for his/her soul on the other side?...)

I will stop here...

[wynderer]

9Eagle9, do we agree that the babies & little children who are tortured & then 'sacrifced' are among those who do not choose to stay imprisoned? [bearing in mind that i am very suspicious of the 'contract' theory, open as it is to all kinds of manipulations by the controllers aka archons

edit to add this quote from WhiteCrowBlackDeer 's beautiful post below this one -- this describes how i look upon my unlawful & illegal abductions :

PS I'm hoping this isn't coming across like I'm a martyr. Cuz, I'm NOT. I had the opportunity to tap into real inner strength. I didn't have the words for it back then, but my beliefs in right and wrong kept me standing tall and alive."


wyn

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
No the power to protect children comes from the spiritually empowered or self realized adults. Children are self realized, but lacking the authority or experience to defend themselves. Finally that purity is swallowed up by the false realities imposed. I'd suggest that most parents cannot properly protect their children if they cannot even acknowledge what part they are playing in the whole matter.

I agree there is not a whole lot that people can for those who want stay imprisoned.

It is socially unacceptable not to honor parasitical activity. The more we agree to it and allow it the world on a collective level will not change. It is very much protected still. It's protected by those who keep clamoring to be let out of the prison. As much as we like to blame the ptb the greater portion of responsibility lies with the masses for this allowance and acceptance. ]

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
I am stealing this from another thread (my apologies WCBD) as an example of how, although truth is clearly uttered, truth is left unacknowledged and accomodated to one's level of understanding current at that moment...

My father wasn’t a nice man, but in his later years, I saw how broken he was from arthritic pain and heart disease. In that instant, my heart opened and words just poured out. (We were raised that children are seen and not heard.)

[...]

I told him that I loved him and forgave him. He choked a couple of times before his explanation came out. In a small voice he said, “Thank you. I was possessed back then.”

For a nano-second, I thought that was lame, but I realized that for him to admit anything counter to pride and strength was big medicine. It was just what I needed to move forward for myself. Our life contract was completed on that day.

If my father's only fault had been that children should be seen and not heard, I could have lived with that. But my father was a man of indescribable cruelty. I remember his games of dominance and submission with me when i was two years old. He never sexually abused me. I am grateful for that. But the emotional abuse has left deep scars. I do not have a relationship with him. I have no idea how his health is. I know he's alive.

He repeatedly appeared in my visions of past lives, always a destructive force. He was even the one who held the sword one time while I lay as a sacrificial victim. Should I forgive this man? Of course! I have already forgiven him for I do not wish to live with hatred in my heart. But he'll probably never know that I've forgiven him and he probably wouldn't want to be forgiven because of his self-righteousness. I believe he has been under demonic influences for so long that he doesn't even know right from wrong. I forgave him, but I don't think I could ever feel love for him.

But I've freed myself from him. If I could free myself from someone like him and come out in one piece while still retaining dignity and love within me, then maybe i can free myself of all other dark forces out there. I'd never really thought of it that way until now.

Hello Daughter of Time,

Yesterday was the first time I visited this thread because I didn't want to know about dark forces out there. It brought up a lot of my own past. Today, I'm skimming because there's so much here and there is only 24 hours in a day... But here I find this post, not 20 minutes after posting on another thread called, "Reconnecting with alienated family members."

I've add a little bit more to the original post, though it's no where the complete picture. I've just begun my research into archons, so I'd say, it's more of a synchronicity thing going on. Then I went and added an UPDATE because I was concerned that people would think, I've an idiot to forgive and what for any way?

I've read many of your posts. Thank you for your compassion and insights and tenderness where it's needed. It's easy to see why your are here at this time. So below is the post and with new eyes and evolving knowledge, I'd say there was an archon in my life.

"My father wasn’t a nice man, but in his later years, I saw how broken he was from arthritic pain and heart disease. In that instant, my heart opened and words just poured out. We were raised...his words, "Children are seen and not heard. Speak when spoken to." His favorite phrase to his five daughters of eight kids was, "Act like a woman think like a man." Here, let me say it for you..."Nuts, with a capital N."

I told my Dad that when I look at my life in a linear time line, much more good happened than bad. I am who I am in part because of all that he taught. That in many respects, he was ahead of his time in teaching things that only sons were privy, to. I pointed out the time spent cooking, and baking together, and how to be graceful in stature.

I told him that I loved him and forgave him. He choked a couple of times before his explanation came out. In a small voice he said, “Thank you. I was possessed back then.”

For a nano-second, I thought that was lame, but I realized that for him to admit anything counter to pride and strength was big medicine. It was just what I needed to move forward for myself. Our life contract was completed on that day.

A few years later, I was fortunate to be by his bedside when he crossed over. I saw with different eyes. Just before his passing, I understood that he was a warrior that signed up for a hard ride. My Dad honored his contract. He looked peaceful and innocent. A Beautiful Soul. The pain and wrinkles washed from his face in his last breaths. It was who he really was without the mask of this life. That was also the moment, I understood there’s no reason to fear death.

UPDATE: The above sounds crazy. What I never did was to give my power away. I stood my ground for myself and my siblings. Even when slammed to the ground like a raggedy ann dolly and picked up by my hair only to repeat the whole thing again and again. I would not let out a whimper (for the most part). Black and blue. I still have tender spots on my skull even though it's 40 plus years later. I know I'm here for a reason. One of which is life lived from the Higher Heart.

PS I'm hoping this isn't coming across like I'm a martyr. Cuz, I'm NOT. I had the opportunity to tap into real inner strength. I didn't have the words for it back then, but my beliefs in right and wrong kept me standing tall and alive."

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

P.S. I'll save for another time that I have experiences of my 'invisible family friends when I was younger. I believe them to be my Star Family. They'd come to visit exactly at 2:10 a.m. But this thread and some others have made me silent and look within for parts I may have forgotten. My gut says that they were what helped me be strong. I just didn't want anyone to take that away from me by posting it here.

[Finefeather]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Finefeather (here)
[...] Out of every post in the entire Avalon arsenal there has ever only been ONE statement, made by many, scattered around different threads, which can truly be said to be the ABSOLUTE TRUTH....and that is "Look Inside", "Turn inward" "The truth is inside you". Yet we flit around from post to post, thread to thread, seeking enlightenment.

[...]

Personally... I wouldn't be so categorical, although there is SOME truth to it since it is actually the ONLY WAY we, Earth's humans, are left with to be able to disentangle ourselves from the feeder tubes' web.

Why?

Because, since it's the only way one has... it's been effectively, efficiently and continuously plastered with buckshots of confusions and turned into a mine-field that's been booby-trapped to hell!

For example, meditations:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
A bit more, from the same guy, about parasites, predators and gurus:

[...]

I'm not going to mention the guy's name because he's never overtly gone after us; he had a vestigial connection to Steve, that's all. The psychics saw this happening before most of them knew thatSteve had been 'courted' by this guru for years and had taught him a specific meditation technique that's engineered to enslave the more talented adepts under his tutelage.

[...]

So... "going within" with techniques designed by some "new age" or other type of so-called "gurus" to further enslave one... hhhmmm....

Then, there is the whole field of hypnotic, drugs and/or trauma implants that one can't help but run into when "going within" and start acting out the script(s) contained within said implant(s) due to being overwhelmed by it/them.

By the way, these implants, when viewed from the perspective delineated in the video of post # 1357, may give one a clue as to where these archontic and gnostic "discoveries" are coming from... another implant generating its own constructs/golems/tulpas... to keep the "awake and aware" very busy fighting... themselves.

So, again... "going within"... hhhmmm... caveat: many more layers may need to be peeled off from there... which is something 9eagle9 has been valiantly pointing at/out, all over Avalon.

To confuse the matter even more, there are these beings incarnating on Earth coming from who-knows-where and who haven't got any clue as to what Earth's humans are suffering from and who can shot up from here to "source" and profess it's as easy as pie... Huh? Says who?

Accordingly, for Earth's humans, there aren't that many ways out of the booby-trapped mine field of confusions and labyrinths that have no exits.

Henceforth, any "safe" ways to "go and look within?"

Amongst the safest, there's the shaman way as walked by 9eagle9 and Steve Richards (see this thread: Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics)

There is the non-hypnotic memory recovery method as explained by Truman Cash: see post # 1047.

Then there's also Ho'oponopono which leads one in the direction of "Zero Point" where one can view and handle anything that's from one and not from one:

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/hooponopono25jul06.shtml

http://www.idreamcatcher.com/hooponopono/

http://www.ancienthuna.com/ho-oponopono.htm

Any other avenues certified "booby-trap free," welcome.

I agree entirely with all you say when we look at it from the angle you are presenting your point.
I also think 9eagle9 has excellent advice and posts on this subject.
I however stand by my comment: "Look Inside", "Turn inward" "The truth is inside you".
These words, however, mean a lot more than meets the casual eye.
The first thing we need to realise is that there is something going on around the world which I call 'spirituality fever'. It has the same nature as getting a face lift or a boob job to coin a phrase. This 'spirituality fever' has rushed to peoples heads and has become another fashion symbol in society. The type of people who are been caught up in this 'Money making scheme' are the same ones who subscribe to magazines loaded with ways to lose 100kg in 2 weeks, buy miracle claiming products, and any easy way to do anything that would normally take dedication and commitment. It is the buy yourself into heaven scam evolved into the buy yourself into the 6th dimension scam.
These people are about as ready for real spiritual enlightenment as my dog is. Now although I have found them to be quite intelligent and genuine from the outside and often very nice friendly people, they actually drip with emotional hangups, and have actually got no idea what they are really letting themselves into when they are confronted by a fake guru who's only claim to magic is the speed at which he can make you pay up for the scam, not to mention the danger you are about to enter into. These 'aspirants' are ready for the picking and the 'archons' are rubbing their hands in great delight.
So when I say "turn inward" I am talking to the genuine seeker who knows inside him that this is the life in which he will achieve this state. I have seen many of these genuine people on the real path to spiritual enlightenment. They are clear minded and free from all the attachments and hangers on in life, because they are not in any doubt about what may come their way and they know, from the likes of genuine people, that protection is of prime importance.

[Finefeather]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
It is socially unacceptable not to honor parasitical activity. The more we agree to it and allow it the world on a collective level will not change. It is very much protected still. It's protected by those who keep clamoring to be let out of the prison. As much as we like to blame the ptb the greater portion of responsibility lies with the masses for this allowance and acceptance.

This is a real gem of wisdom,....... I wonder how many people actually 'get' it's real implications and their contributions to this everyday unthinking occurrence ?

[Chester]

Man... Page 74 of this thread has become something quite special... Thanks again Houman and all