Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[gripreaper]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
we -- the whole planet -- are boxing with our own shadows whether it's religions, gods, devils, evils, archons, blood suckers, energy suckers, vampires etc... since all these shadows are the unconscious manifestations of "our" "mind" we were handed down and which we are "happily" and "unconsciously" energizing and fuelling perpetually.

This is very profound. We are part of that which we seek to extract. We must own this or we will not be able to integrate it.

[Hervé]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
we -- the whole planet -- are boxing with our own shadows whether it's religions, gods, devils, evils, archons, blood suckers, energy suckers, vampires etc... since all these shadows are the unconscious manifestations of "our" "mind" we were handed down and which we are "happily" and "unconsciously" energizing and fuelling perpetually.

This is very profound. We are part of that which we seek to extract. We must own this or we will not be able to integrate it.

Thanks grip, glad to see someone who admittedly "got it."

[9eagle9]

They are using children to gain power. Anyone can kidnap a child it doesn't take a particularly powerful occultist to do so. If more people were not in denial of this topic, those abductions would eventually cease. It is our own choice for ignorance and the choice for being passive towards such things that allows their perpetration.

What is sad is we have a part to play in their enpowerment.

But when I attempt to convey to people how we can over ride their power, I get nothing but resistance to the idea.

Posted by wynderer (here)
from 9Eagle9:
'That is giving them too much power.'

i think you were addressing this to me, as you quoted my post below yours -- i'm not clear what you mean by giving them too much power -- the fact is, they do have a lot of power -- the children kidnapped to be used in the rituals are completely powerless in their hands

way earlier in this thread, i'd posted about being sent, thru my job, to a multi-county law enforcement personnel conference re the 3,000 children who disappeared in one yr alone from Westchester County in NY State -- that's a lot of power, too, to be able to take that many children who disappear forever -- & that was just in one county, in one state, in one country -- & we don't even have a nice juicy war going on, when it is so easy for them to pick & choose which children

[wynderer]

thanks for response, Amzer Zo -- now i see the point on which we disagree

i do not see them as [from your post ] :
' the unconscious manifestations of "our" "mind" '

-- i see them -- the Reptilians, the Greys, the demonic beings i have had the misfortune to meet, etc -- as very real beings from other dimensions, or perhaps from elsewhere in our 3D universe

i think it is 'Humanism' which sees Humans as the center of all perceptions/interpretations of life? -- every now & then, talking w/someone by phone, in person, thru the net -- i sometimes think i get a flash of seeing that this belief system is deeply ingrained in Humans -- & i see that this is very detrimental /a great hindrance to understanding the multi-dimensional Universe we live in

wyn

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
hi Amzer Zo -- re this from your post:

In the vein of the latter, I wish that the people who are having these "visions" of tsunamis, devastating earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, etc... could have enough "presence d'Esprit" to dig beyond that vision and find out who are the producers, directors, art directors, etc... of the "productions" since it seems many of the militaries are following up on that "vision" and retiring in the Ozarks, etc... indicating that the military hierarchy is thoroughly "impressed" with those specific "outcomes."

there's a book, 'Warriors of the Rainbow,' by Vinson Brown -- part of it is a collection of the prophecies of indigenous peoples thruout the world...

[...]

Hi wynderer,

The point I was trying to make was that the Andamans didn't follow a "book of prophecies," they just moved, all of them, from the direct perception of an imminent actuality rather than due to a "virtuality" implanted in their "mind" eons ago.

The other point I was trying to make is that due to that handed-over "mind" from the predators, we -- the whole planet -- are boxing with our own shadows whether it's religions, gods, devils, evils, archons, blood suckers, energy suckers, vampires etc... since all these shadows are the unconscious manifestations of "our" "mind" we were handed down and which we are "happily" and "unconsciously" energizing and fuelling perpetually.

[9eagle9]

Hello Daughter of Time,

Yesterday was the first time I visited this thread because I didn't want to know about dark forces out there.....'


Is what I was referring to.

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Like what WhiteCrowBlackDeer said, I was afraid to look at the negative side of things..

A point of clarification: The above is a misleading statement. I'm always processing the negative side of things, so much so I am a complete bore. I walked away from a secure job of 27 years, in 2004, just to complete this process and learn why am I here? What's next...and all that rot...

Stating more clearly "archon" is new information for me. I didn't want one more thing added to my already full plate of clearing off, so I can invite only what works for me today.

I'm learning that there's a distinct possibility that I was raised by an archon and there's a good possibility that I have a couple of psychopathic sisters. Which explains why 'Love and Light' ain't the way to go. And why I am the big joke in the family. (on some levels)

IMO, I'm one of the many brave ones that know when to take a stand. I have demonstrated that over and over in my life.

............Going, going, gone..........................................





UPDATE: I can't find in my post where I said, "...I was afraid to look at the negative side of things."

If this is what you were referencing from post #1477:

P.S. I'll save for another time that I have experiences of my 'invisible family friends when I was younger. I believe them to be my Star Family. They'd come to visit exactly at 2:10 a.m. But this thread and some others have made me silent and look within for parts I may have forgotten. My gut says that they were what helped me be strong. I just didn't want anyone to take that away from me by posting it here.

It is a poorly constructed sentence. "But this thread and some others have made me silent and look within for parts I may have forgotten."

I had only been on PA forum a couple of week (one and only experience on a forum) and got brave enough to share my Star Family experience. One person took things out of context with each additional post. And then tried to make me understand that we are All One. I ended up deleting the posts. I learned that it wasn't worth having to explain my Truth to someone that continued to use it for his/her 'gain'.

[Hervé]

Posted by wynderer (here)
thanks for response, Amzer Zo -- now i see the point on which we disagree

i do not see them as [from your post ] :
' the unconscious manifestations of "our" "mind" '

-- i see them -- the Reptilians, the Greys, the demonic beings i have had the misfortune to meet, etc -- as very real beings from other dimensions, or perhaps from elsewhere in our 3D universe

[...]

Then -- maybe? -- you are "missing" Steve Richards' input in this: "Everything is alive!" Meaning that in the same ways as golems and tulpas come to take a life and shape on their own and can take form in physical 3D, so do all these generated thoughts and trapped energies... they become VERY REAL!

[9eagle9]

Yes everything is alive. Lots of thing are not living the way we are . I'm not alive the way a jelly fish is. Its body is less dense, less complex, its consciousness I'm sure is not the same. A tree is having its animated experience differently . Because they are not alive like we are doesn't mean they are not alive.

We know how these things work by intimately examining ourselves. We don't know when we created some of these things, it may have been in other lives. Like leaving psychic fragments out there for other's to leverage. Our thoughtforms change all the time. I'm pretty sure people 200 years ago weren't thinking of buying a Ford.

As we grow more complex so do the things we unwittingly bring to life.

It's a matter of perception, Wynderer sees the ptb as powerful and I see them as rather feeble in expression.... compared to mine.

[Houman]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
They are using children to gain power. Anyone can kidnap a child it doesn't take a particularly powerful occultist to do so. If more people were not in denial of this topic, those abductions would eventually cease. It is our own choice for ignorance and the choice for being passive towards such things that allows their perpetration.

No wonder why F. Springmeier got framed, this is from his book
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bl...ockefeller.htm

...The Rockefellers were involved in the creation of the FBI, so that the FBI has always been an arm of power for the Illuminati. That is why there are official FBI programs in action today to kidnap children and provide them for sacrifice. Yes, American people, the wolf was set in charge of guarding the chicken coop. The organization that is working as part of the FBI is the Finders. (The stink was so bad that US. News & World Report did a story to soften the impact of the scandal. See the article on a following page.)

Ex-Satanists who worked with the FBI to receive the children the FBI kidnapped and sold to them for sacrifice have been trying to get the word out publicly about the FBI’s corruption. When the Illuminati was beginning to get exposed in the Franklin Saving & Loan case in Lincoln, NE the FBI was part of the dirty actors and was part of the cover up. The Rockefellers have had control over the FBI since they helped get it started. When Congress wanted to investigate the CIA for wrongdoing the appointed a Commission headed by Rockefeller to investigate the CIA’s wrongdoings! Yes, the Rockefeller Commission did a big study and slapped the hands of the CIA for a few misdeeds. Their report is still cited as the big investigation of the CIA. Some investigation! Since the Rockefeller family work hand in hand with the CIA to create Monarch slaves, of course that part of the CIA’s misdeeds got overlooked!

A recent convert from Satanism, Michael McArthur, has given validated inside information about the FBI and the CIA programs which kidnap children in order to supply Satanic rituals with sacrificial material. The names of the agents who spend their official government time kidnapping children for Satanism that Michael knows about are as follows:
Chucky “Mike,” “Peters”-FBI hit man in Div, 5 of FBI, involved with inslaw case Nichol Harrah--FBI agent who abducts children for sacrifice

Unda Krieg Satanist working for FBI
Ken Lanning FBI agent who abducts children for sacrifice
Nick O’Hara FBI hit man, satanist, has covered FBI child kidnappings by murder Kape Richardson CIA agent who abducts children for sacrifice

[wynderer]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
thanks for response, Amzer Zo -- now i see the point on which we disagree

i do not see them as [from your post ] :
' the unconscious manifestations of "our" "mind" '

-- i see them -- the Reptilians, the Greys, the demonic beings i have had the misfortune to meet, etc -- as very real beings from other dimensions, or perhaps from elsewhere in our 3D universe

[...]

Then -- maybe? -- you are "missing" Steve Richards' input in this: "Everything is alive!" Meaning that in the same ways as golems and tulpas come to take a life and shape on their own and can take form in physical 3D, so do all these generated thoughts and trapped energies... they become VERY REAL!

yes, i am aware of the manner in which what the Theosophists call 'thought forms' can take on a life of their own, even in 3D w/enough mis-use of knowledge -- but these are kind of secondarily created -- like robots

i guess personally i would consider these as part of the annoying astral entities category -- tho i have not met a golem [or maybe i have & didn't know it -- some weird folks out there lately]

but i do not consider Reptilians & Greys to be such mentally-created beings -- some of the Greys seem to be pretty robotic, but not all

yes, everything is alive -- tho Life manifests in many different ways, on many different frequencies, some far beyond the capabilities of a matrix-entrapped Earth Human mind to comprehend/imagine

[CdnSirian]

I have to say I appreciate all those who have hung in with this thread, which I think concerns a very challenging topic.

We all have had experiences that are somewhat difficult or plain impossible to describe. "Other" energies or beings, thought forms, beamed ideas, transferences, copy-cats, hitch-hikers, aliens, demons, angels, hybrids, bio-engineered robots, label-of-the-month critters are common to our lives.

On the huge over-view, we are all us and the whole system and accessories are included.

Apparently a well functioning brain is designed to filter out other realities, voices, beings, et al so that we can experience this focus for what it is. 3D reality. I observe that it's pretty good for some!

Any glitch or deliberate sabotaging (pain, drugs hypnosis) allows or ensures a vulnerability to intrusion and influence, or downright slavery. Movies, symbols, buzzwords, television - trawls for the rest of us, daily, hourly, filling the nets.

Where am I going with this? Not sure!!

I have observed that when I ignore the media and the bad stories I have very little interference in my ability to focus and create. When I get sucked into the drama I waste time, have nightmares, and feel haggard. So I do have some control over this.

Once in a while I tune in to the current events and the predicted horrible downfall of our (Western "civilized") culture and frankly, if I stay with it for a while, I don't see any reason to live another day. Insiders from the alphabet groups confirm we will be rounded up, camped, and brutally raped, tortured and killed.

So I just have to tune out and live every day like that crap storm is never going to happen, or die right now.

I will take every vitamin, mineral and organic food I can get to help me tune out of "reality". 9Eagle9 and others who do the clearing work, this is not to invalidate you at all. I just can't hang with it, not on a continual basis.

I have considered getting off this forum. And re-considered.

I read and viewed the videos here today: http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2011/0...y-results.html which shows interviews with and about Philip K. Dick. Also talks about consciousness, reality et al. It's just too big to settle for tuning in exclusively to the "we are just pawns" reality.

We can re-focus as we are acted upon by exterior forces, or we can practise whatever discipline is necessary to guide our own focus. We can self heal, get help, if we need. And help others. I'm not in denial.

I think we have to create a good deal of the time, that we are sovreign in our life and consciousness. What else is going to give us the Oomph to deal with the cr**p when it looms into our view screen?

Hope this makes some sense.

[Hervé]

Re: "Finders":

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

From Sue Arrigo:


I want to mention one other way in which I learned about the Finder’s Experiment. The name Finders comes from a CIA slang word that was popular about the time this experiment started.

It was F***ed Into Not Denying (FIND). A boss at the CIA would tell an employee “Go find out who did this”.

It was like a game of musical chairs. Everyone would deny that they did it until finally somebody was the scapegoat and was f***ed into not being able to deny it.

So the Finders acronym was a warning to people in the CIA to be careful and not get made into a fall guy for this whole Project by letting a word out about it. A person leaking such stuff usually got blamed for the stuff itself—as people outside the agency couldn’t tell who was above whom and where the buck stopped.

The first time I heard about the Finders Group was at a party. Some kids were brought in to a fancy DC estate dressed up almost in Halloween type costumes-clowns, witches, ghosts, etc. But the costumes had big buttons on back panels over the bottom so that the kids could easily have their private parts exposed. The kids were trick or treat age. But it was not fall.

There were about 15 of these kids brought into an upscale party of people in tuxes. I arrived on the arm of the DCI Colby. Men started messing with these kids sexually, putting them on their laps with their panels unbuttoned. They did not even go into a separate room to do it. I felt uncomfortable with that - it reminded me of my own abuse as a child—and I went out on the front steps to look at the night sky and imagine being on some other planet for awhile.

Colby came out and asked me if I wanted to go home—that meant back to his bed. I just couldn’t get away from this issue. I got a little mad at him and asked him who brought the kids, as if I didn’t know as a remote viewer. He was defensive and then admitted that they were part of a CIA experiment and this was their “coming out” test—their graduation test to see if they could seduce DC politicians (to stay alive).

Those who flunked the test were liquidated. I had been in that system all my life—be useful sexually or die. I was not amused. Colby went into the technical details of the experiment and a “Wasn’t it a good idea?’ type of pitch to me.

[...]

Georgetown University should be called CIA U. The mental research facility is not on the main campus near the regular college students. It is on a separate piece of land that makes it harder to run away from. The name of it is not Georgetown, but it is part of Georgetown University.

Some people at the CIA have complained that attention deficit disorder is associated with the fluoridation of water and that the CIA refused to release the data on it in order to keep getting so many almost normal kids delivered to the door of their mind control clinics around North America.

They also complain that the CIA knows the treatment for attention deficit disorder, a drug to chelate the fluoride and expel it from the body and refuses to publish that data as well.

It is true that there are a number of books on the subject for internal consumption at the CIA. An ordinary epidemiologist could look at the issue and find out if those rumors within the CIA are true.

The reason everything was limited to two weeks was that was the length of time that the in-hospital psychiatric hospitalization could maximally be extended to, to run basically healthy kids “through testing of their condition”. The CIA developed a bunch of bogus tests to run on ADD kids to justify their two-week hospitalization like “withdrawing them from sugar, food dyes, etc.”

When this University facility’s history in mind control comes to the public’s attention, it will be a little hairy. Hundreds, no thousands, of parents will suddenly want to know if their child, grown or otherwise, was a mind control subject or in the control group. I will mention in passing three fairly reliable methods of knowing that.

That information comes from CIA reports about what to do to confuse parents if they get to another therapist later, ie what disinformation to give them to prevent them from uncovering that the kid was mind controlled.

That first piece of disinformation is -- "No one can tell if a person is a mind control victim—certainly not regular family and neighbors, only a qualified therapist could know and since they can’t tell no one can."

That is given because the CIA found out that 56% of the children were discovered to have been uncovered by relatives and family members as "robotic" or "messed up in their minds" or "with inexplicable behaviors that came from outside of themselves."

Teachers were particularly good at distinguishing control kids from experimental kids, and a number of teachers near that facility were killed by the CIA—on the order of a dozen in a decade.

The second piece of disinformation that the CIA primed therapists around the world have dispended is that it is "normal" for kids to act out in their teenage years by cross-dressing. It turned out that just the opposite is true of normal teenagers. They want to define their sexual identity and not cross dress.

Teenagers are the most intolerant to cross dressing per CIA research. Unless of course, they are mind control subjects and have been trained to sexually please chicken hawks by boys dressing as girls. There is no market for girls dressed as boys so the cross dressing only goes in one direction.

Surprisingly, the CIA research showed that homosexual boys rarely cross dressed on their own at that age - unless they had been used by porn filmmakers, chicken hawks and mind controllers. So the presence of cross-dressing in a teenage boy is highly predictive that he is a mind control or abuse victim.

The third piece of disinformation that the CIA fed therapists in journals to fool them and the parents is a bit subtler. The disinformation said "There is no normal age at which children should be told about sex. Sex education can occur at any age — it is up to the parents to decide. And sex education may be bad for kids so maybe we shouldn’t have it in our schools..."

The CIA spent a lot of money to convince parents, churches, and schools not to have real sex education classes. The reason was that when kids were allowed to freely talk in a group about their sexual experiences or fantasies or theories of sex, the kids themselves could see that some of them had very different levels of exposure to and sophistication in these matters.

So if sex education had to be taught the CIA wanted canned talks in which the kids were not allowed to talk. It thus trained sex educators to control the amount kids could talk and tried to make it taboo for the kids to talk to each other afterwards.

The CIA also found out that there was a best age for sex education –about the start of puberty. So then they fostered some campaigns to force the education to be earlier. The reason for that was that some young child whose native curiosity would not lead to sophisticated knowledge of sexual action, were coming out with it in front of parents and therapists.

It was better for the CIA if they could say that the kid learned it in a sex education class than from CIA prostitution of them. So although it sounds contradictory, the CIA’s bottom line on sex education disinformation was—don’t have sex education classes, but if you must have them have them very early and don’t let kids talk at them. Make it a more taboo subject by the way you skirt it or only allow it to be taught in a very short segment and never referred to again.

The CIA sponsored conferences for sex educators under a front company call “First Dating Experiences” if I remember correctly. Or maybe just “First Experiences”. When the abstinence only people objected the name of the front company was called something like “Wait for Marriage, Inc."

It was the same front. The same staff, address etc. The CIA also pushes abstinence and marital fidelity fronts while not practicing these things themselves. It does that to increase the effectiveness of its blackmail ops.

Sexual blackmail only works when the society is condemning towards others. It is not the abstinence of fidelity that the CIA is after, it is the condemning of others it is after.

Condemning is a form of hate and the CIA provokes hate and condemning as a way of controlling others. It is a mind control technique that can then be used to get people to fight wars etc against their best interests.

The CIA is looking for “handles” into a person’s psyche—an emotional issue that drives a person to act. Then it exploits it. It also creates handles by funding songs and lyrics into existence. That is another whole level of mind control directed at a population instead of individuals.

I have gotten off track some here. This is useful information but not staying focused on the main topic.

[tests to run on ADD kids to justify their two-week hospitalization] It was a total scam. They just needed something so difficult that parents couldn’t easily do at home to con the parent into letting Johnny stay at the hospital. They withdrew the food alright. They barely fed the kids at all. They fed them out of boxes, pre-packaged potato chips like Pringles and called that a sugar free diet. The last day the parents would come to pick the kid up and the interaction was observed carefully to see how well the kid could lie about his stay and what he had eaten in the hospital.

It was a complete fantasy. The kid had been down in the basement without a bed, clothes, or single hot meal. The kids that passed had incredible abilities to make believe. So good that they even believed it. They were multiples just like me. They had gone through an hour’s hypnosis at the end of that torture and with the help of the hypnotist had imagined all that had happened to them in that two-week period of time.

The parents were told that they couldn’t see the kids because the kids needed to learn a new way to relate to them to help their ADD, and that had to be learned well before they saw them again.

The parents wanted a break from their ADD kids for 2 weeks so it worked. And the kids did relate to their parents differently after two weeks of hard torture without a hot meal. Meanwhile, some say the CIA did actually give them the fluoride chelating drug—a pill once a day so that the ADD was better. The program was popular with parents.

The University facility touted its benefits. Researchers forged results to show how effective it was and others studied how to torture the kids and split their minds more reliably.

Not all kids split well enough to pretend, or keep up the pretense. These are the ones people know of as the Finder kids. They were taken away from their parents. They were not able to find pushers in their communities, so they were sent to be sex slaves and drug mules where they didn’t have to perform at as high a level.

If they couldn’t even do that, they were killed. They were not one-use kids for the sexual/torture use of the Ultra-rich, they were already used goods. The kids that Bush Sr. was expending were kids that came to that facility that were selected to be held in reserve for his use and his use only. Their parents had applied for their son’s hospitalization but the “application had been held up.”

Bush, Sr. had a certain look of boy he liked, like the youngest boy “Eager to Beaver” in the Brady House Boys (?). They looked like he looked when he was a boy before “it happened to him” at age 6. He kept on sodomizing kids like his dad sodomized him. His father kept it up much longer than others can imagine. He kept it up until he was close to death. Some things run in families.

Would you want to see your dad if that continued to be what you had to submit to? Dark and ugly secrets that even the principals might not know—what with multiplicity being what it is. Bush, Sr. — does he even know that he goes to that base and why? I leave it to your remote viewing skills and imagination to decide.

I was not at the CIA because of my ability to imagine what loose ends there were. I was there to know what loose ends there were and failing to know could cost me my life and more than that.

The actual results were that the CIA training was not adequate in amount or quality to do anything to train a kid in pushing. So the experiment was not a test of that at all. The experiment was a cover story for how to get the kids into one’s hands.

[...]

[Hervé]

Posted by wynderer (here)
[..]

but i do not consider Reptilians & Greys to be such mentally-created beings -- some of the Greys seem to be pretty robotic, but not all

[..]

Which wasn't something I was referring to in my initial post.

[wynderer]

sorry -- i was just responding to a later post -- a bit difficult to remember entireties of posts on this active thread

& i think the non-thought-form created beings are more of an issue than those thus created

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
[..]

but i do not consider Reptilians & Greys to be such mentally-created beings -- some of the Greys seem to be pretty robotic, but not all

[..]

Which wasn't something I was referring to in my initial post.

[Jean-Luc]

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You can watch it on Youtube but you will get a better quality video on his website at this address:

http://veilofreality.com/2011/03/12/...2%98%9E-video/ (Press HD in the upper right corner)

The accompanying article is also published on sott.net http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...ion-of-Contact

with this sort of enthusiastic comment from a reader:

This is the topics of all topics.
This is the best article I have ever read on the subject.
I am an abductee and have been more than frustrated by the "New Age" feel good wishful thinking that this subject evokes.
Thank you for your bold truth seeking .
We are blinded by our binary thinking, black or white, good or bad.
There are answers above the childish options of, " are you a good witch , or a bad witch."

His website : http://veilofreality.com/

Excellent work!

"The idea that men, women, and children can be taken against their wills from their homes, cars, and school yards by strange humanoid beings, lifted onto spacecraft, and subjected to intrusive and threatening procedures is so terrifying, and yet so shattering to our notions of what is possible in our universe, that the actuality of the phenomenon has been largely rejected out of hand or bizarrely distorted in most media accounts."

- John E. Mack, M.D., professor of psychiatry at Harvard, from his book Abduction

[RunningDeer]

Thank you, 9eagle9. I see why you made that statement.

That's the trouble with posting. With so many points of view, it's absurd to think everyone will see it the way I intended.

Clarification: Too many books being read at once, too much time spent reading threads. Too little time to put together my personal picture without one more added topic on “Archons”. Though, I did read a fascinating article by Jay Weidner, “The Rise of Archons”. I had layers and layers of ah-ha moments...more pieces to understand my family dynamics, and the innate understanding of why it was critical for me to spend time with nature and animals as a counter balance.

So not out of fear, did I not want to go any further with Archons. I do want to know more after I’ve come to rest on what to add and delete on my personal journey. There are negative behaviors and beliefs that keep me from my potential. That is the most important work for now.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Hello Daughter of Time,

Yesterday was the first time I visited this thread because I didn't want to know about dark forces out there.....'


Is what I was referring to.

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Like what WhiteCrowBlackDeer said, I was afraid to look at the negative side of things..

A point of clarification: The above is a misleading statement. I'm always processing the negative side of things, so much so I am a complete bore. I walked away from a secure job of 27 years, in 2004, just to complete this process and learn why am I here? What's next...and all that rot...

Stating more clearly "archon" is new information for me. I didn't want one more thing added to my already full plate of clearing off, so I can invite only what works for me today.

I'm learning that there's a distinct possibility that I was raised by an archon and there's a good possibility that I have a couple of psychopathic sisters. Which explains why 'Love and Light' ain't the way to go. And why I am the big joke in the family. (on some levels)

IMO, I'm one of the many brave ones that know when to take a stand. I have demonstrated that over and over in my life.

............Going, going, gone..........................................





UPDATE: I can't find in my post where I said, "...I was afraid to look at the negative side of things."

If this is what you were referencing from post #1477:

P.S. I'll save for another time that I have experiences of my 'invisible family friends when I was younger. I believe them to be my Star Family. They'd come to visit exactly at 2:10 a.m. But this thread and some others have made me silent and look within for parts I may have forgotten. My gut says that they were what helped me be strong. I just didn't want anyone to take that away from me by posting it here.

It is a poorly constructed sentence. "But this thread and some others have made me silent and look within for parts I may have forgotten."

I had only been on PA forum a couple of week (one and only experience on a forum) and got brave enough to share my Star Family experience. One person took things out of context with each additional post. And then tried to make me understand that we are All One. I ended up deleting the posts. I learned that it wasn't worth having to explain my Truth to someone that continued to use it for his/her 'gain'.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
If you haven't done so yet, I heartidly recommend you watch Berhnard Guenther's 110 minutes video UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact 2012 (Full Documentary) which pretty much summarizes the work of Dr Karla Turner... and much more, including segments with Richard Dolan, Laura Knight and many well thought comments and extracts from various serious researchers & authors.

You can watch it on Youtube but you will get a better quality video on his website at this address:

http://veilofreality.com/2011/03/12/...2%98%9E-video/ (Press HD in the upper right corner)

I just watched the whole thing (110 minutes). I got to be impressed.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I'd not seen it before. It could be regarded as obligatory course material for anyone studying this thread.

[Hervé]

Indeed, the best succinct summary of this thread's content.

Thanks Jean-Luc!

[observer]

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
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I too just finished watching the video offered by Jean-Luc, and do concur, it was an excellent trail of evidence. I don't believe any serious researcher is denying these evidential facts regarding the UFO phenomenon.

This is all confirming evidence to what was offered in 2003 by John Lear on Coast-to-Coast with Art Bell in the, now famous, John Lear Disclosure.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2003/11/02

You should be aware of what John has been saying for the best part of the last decade, Bill. You interviewed John quits some time back.

The continual rehashing of the disclosure issue is much like preaching to the choir. It is a most important issue with those who have no understanding. Most of us don't really have any issues with disclosing anything regarding the UFO phenomenon as something real.

It is now long past time that we, as members to this forum, stop concerning ourselves with 'disclosure', as this disclosure process has been ongoing for nearly the past ten years.

It is now time to focus on WHY? Let's move-on and come to some understanding as to why this is occurring.

This is the focus of my reason for being at Avalon.

[wynderer]

thanks, Jean-Luc --i watched the video a few months ago -- i found it heartening on one level, to hear so many intelligent & decent people speaking for us, the abductees --

but at the same time, i found it depressing, not because of the content, but because , when the video ended, there i was, all alone again in a world that does not know or care to know/hear what we abductees have to say

i am fortunate to be in phone connection w/Elaine Douglass, ed of JAR -- online Journal of Abduction Research -- & head of Utah MUFON -- as i told her once, the reason i continue to talk about abductions, knowing the responses i'll get, is not because i want approval/attention/drama -- it's because of the implications for Humanity as a whole

wyn

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Jean-Luc (here)
If you haven't done so yet, I heartidly recommend you watch Berhnard Guenther's 110 minutes video UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact 2012 (Full Documentary) which pretty much summarizes the work of Dr Karla Turner... and much more, including segments with Richard Dolan, Laura Knight and many well thought comments and extracts from various serious researchers & authors.

You can watch it on Youtube but you will get a better quality video on his website at this address:

http://veilofreality.com/2011/03/12/...2%98%9E-video/ (Press HD in the upper right corner)

I just watched the whole thing (110 minutes). I got to be impressed.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I'd not seen it before. It could be regarded as obligatory course material for anyone studying this thread.

Excellent.

As it clearly states at the above link, this video is closely based on the article UFOs, Aliens, and the Question of Contact by Bernhard Guenther, November 21, 2010, to the point that the article is almost a transcript of the video, for those who prefer to read.