A New Book - The Reality and Spirituality of Life in the Universe

[Abductee S]

I haven't seen anyone's remarks that have read the book? Is it that no one has but wobblegong?

[wobbegong]

Posted by Abductee S (here)
I haven't seen anyone's remarks that have read the book? Is it that no one has but wobblegong?

Mate, here's some good news: it was released in Italian a few days ago:-)

[Bo Atkinson]

The OP book appears to not be published as an ebook, (rather just in paper). I'll wait and see if they release the OP book, as an ebook. At this point in my life i am reading ebooks, because ebooks can be "read to me" at work (through mp3 software). YouTubes are a chore to make portable and one should hope it is not illegal, (for private listening).

I did get through all the 6 newknowledgelibrary.org ebooks and very much much appreciated them. I even regarded "the message" as one of the best articulated, within a big-integrated-universe-sense. Within the the scope of portraying the rabbit hole issues far and wide. Given the publication dates, the outcomes match the basic predictions made. (Where publication dates do not seem challenged). The broad coverage and styles of metaphor for describing it all seem very well suited to me. Although, i was cross-resonating the content with various studies of 4 decades, by now.

My income-generaing-work is primarily manual labor which allows my mind to simultaneously study. I need to make hay and have developed a more or less 'shipwrecked' lifestyle. Meaning i've veered off of the career-grid for decades and am attempting the efforts needed to test independently stabilized living. Since these things have been predicted by many sources for decades, as a gradual, inevitable eventuality.

It seems to me that the human urge towards comfort zones needs to be "traded in" for some sort of higher principled disciplines. Which might seem a bit stoic or hard edged. It has seemed that way to me, working somewhat isolated. Until or unless one can imbue inspiration and pleasure from principles, instead of the plainly tribal and societal feedbacks. Instead of the 'success' metaphor sold widely in the industrialized nations.

Reaching for higher principles has for me been the greater community integration. Where some sort of subtlety integrated knowledge, slowly replaces the traditional games of human-societal life. There have always remained all sorts of little energies which are hard to release. For concerns about losing human life itself. Yet with continued active-meditation, i do find release points. With continued disciplines, my backward ways are slowly released.

I would be glad to discuss newknowledgelibrary contexts, (the 6 concentrated ebooks). But have doubted anyone on Avalon would participate in a dialog, on such a thread. So i'll put a provocative example here. For instance, greatercommunityspirituality.pdf discusses God in a way which should not offend even a skeptic, a materialist or a philosopher, providing they entertain an open mind with tolerance of specialized, integrated, (non-fundamentalist) definitions:

greatercommunityspirituality.pdf
Chapter One What is God?

In the Greater Community, God is Knowledge. In the Greater Community, God is experience. In the Greater Community, God is the communication of profound insight and recognition from one to another, permeating all manifest life. This comes into being in the realm of your experience. God seems like different things to different people and to different races of beings in the Greater Community........

....In Greater Community Spirituality, there are no heroes. There is no creation story. And there is no culminating experience to bring an end to the difficulties of corporeal life. So, what is religion without these things? These things are tribal in nature. And you are not alone in the Greater Community in wanting them, in establishing them and in holding to them. Everywhere where religion has taken root and has found expression, races have based their practices and their understanding on their own time, their own history and their own temperament. But beyond this is the experience of God. Beyond this is pure spirituality. This is what you must seek now, for human religion can never embody a God of the Greater Community. So inexplicable this is because it transcends your requirements for the Divine. Therefore, you must find another way, a more mature way, a more complete approach, a true preparation.

[wynderer]

hi Wavy -- i really like this part of what you wrote -- & would like to point out that it came from a good, decent USA workingman, & not from the ETs --also re the 'success' metaphor,' the Olympics came immediately to mind

wyn

'It seems to me that the human urge towards comfort zones needs to be "traded in" for some sort of higher principled disciplines. Which might seem a bit stoic or hard edged. It has seemed that way to me, working somewhat isolated. Until or unless one can imbue inspiration and pleasure from principles, instead of the plainly tribal and societal feedbacks. Instead of the 'success' metaphor sold widely in the industrialized nations.'

Posted by wavydome (here)
The OP book appears to not be published as an ebook, (rather just in paper). I'll wait and see if they release the OP book, as an ebook. At this point in my life i am reading ebooks, because ebooks can be "read to me" at work (through mp3 software). YouTubes are a chore to make portable and one should hope it is not illegal, (for private listening).

I did get through all the 6 newknowledgelibrary.org ebooks and very much much appreciated them. I even regarded "the message" as one of the best articulated, within a big-integrated-universe-sense. Within the the scope of portraying the rabbit hole issues far and wide. Given the publication dates, the outcomes match the basic predictions made. (Where publication dates do not seem challenged). The broad coverage and styles of metaphor for describing it all seem very well suited to me. Although, i was cross-resonating the content with various studies of 4 decades, by now.

My income-generaing-work is primarily manual labor which allows my mind to simultaneously study. I need to make hay and have developed a more or less 'shipwrecked' lifestyle. Meaning i've veered off of the career-grid for decades and am attempting the efforts needed to test independently stabilized living. Since these things have been predicted by many sources for decades, as a gradual, inevitable eventuality.

It seems to me that the human urge towards comfort zones needs to be "traded in" for some sort of higher principled disciplines. Which might seem a bit stoic or hard edged. It has seemed that way to me, working somewhat isolated. Until or unless one can imbue inspiration and pleasure from principles, instead of the plainly tribal and societal feedbacks. Instead of the 'success' metaphor sold widely in the industrialized nations.

Reaching for higher principles has for me been the greater community integration. Where some sort of subtlety integrated knowledge, slowly replaces the traditional games of human-societal life. There have always remained all sorts of little energies which are hard to release. For concerns about losing human life itself. Yet with continued active-meditation, i do find release points. With continued disciplines, my backward ways are slowly released.

I would be glad to discuss newknowledgelibrary contexts, (the 6 concentrated ebooks). But have doubted anyone on Avalon would participate in a dialog, on such a thread. So i'll put a provocative example here. For instance, greatercommunityspirituality.pdf discusses God in a way which should not offend even a skeptic, a materialist or a philosopher, providing they entertain an open mind with tolerance of specialized, integrated, (non-fundamentalist) definitions:

greatercommunityspirituality.pdf
Chapter One What is God?

In the Greater Community, God is Knowledge. In the Greater Community, God is experience. In the Greater Community, God is the communication of profound insight and recognition from one to another, permeating all manifest life. This comes into being in the realm of your experience. God seems like different things to different people and to different races of beings in the Greater Community........

....In Greater Community Spirituality, there are no heroes. There is no creation story. And there is no culminating experience to bring an end to the difficulties of corporeal life. So, what is religion without these things? These things are tribal in nature. And you are not alone in the Greater Community in wanting them, in establishing them and in holding to them. Everywhere where religion has taken root and has found expression, races have based their practices and their understanding on their own time, their own history and their own temperament. But beyond this is the experience of God. Beyond this is pure spirituality. This is what you must seek now, for human religion can never embody a God of the Greater Community. So inexplicable this is because it transcends your requirements for the Divine. Therefore, you must find another way, a more mature way, a more complete approach, a true preparation.

[Abductee S]

I believe the e-book is still in the works, sorry. Only the paper version is currently available.

[Abductee S]

The Kindle version is now available from Amazon. It's only $2.99 and can be electronically downloaded.

[Matts]

Have read his new "The Great Waves Of Change" and half of "Life in the Universe" and was sometimes very fascinated, sometimes very disturbed. What makes me so amazing is that it should go in the galaxy between the races pretty much the same as here on Earth between the nations. In principle, all argue for the limited resources, it is only prohibited the use of open force (otherwise threatens isolation and therefore no resources were available). But hey, bribery, corruption, seduction - anything goes. And the really "good guys" have to hide somewhere far, so they do not become victims of the influence of other (less good). Sounds to me somehow fascinating creepy. But is it correct? After all, the only source is the "Angelic Voice". I'm still a little perplexed, but reading the books will continue. I also find the course "Steps to Knowledge" quite well to educate myself in being aware.

(Sorry for my English with Google Translator )

[Abductee S]

Thanks Matts for your input. I certainly understand your point about all the information coming from something we can't see and can't understand. I have to say, there may be no way to get further down that road. But, what I can say is in all my readings of the information Marshall has presented, nothing has felt "wrong". Some of it certainly isn't to my liking, or what I would prefer to have as reality. But even that stuff feels "right" deep down in my gut. I have always looked at what is this information telling me, and telling me to do.

It is sound and follows logic and our own experience here on earth. Why would we expect it to be different in the universe? Life is life and the reality of the physical still demands the same things - food, safety, security, companionship, resources, etc... To believe or hope that is different is even farther out than simply acknowledging what life is like here and allowing that experience to guide your expansion into the universe.

Yes we have incredible people here and yes we have terrible people here too, and everything in between. It makes sense that is the way of things everywhere (for the most part). So no matter where this information came from that Marshall presents, it seems like the best approach to dealing with the unknown in ways that are known. I'm not saying shoot everything and ask questions later. I'm saying use your head, be skeptical and discerning, be careful and don't take things necessarily at face value. We can always ease up later, but if we ease up now and lose something (freedom, the world) it will be much harder and costlier to regain it later..if ever.

[wobbegong]

Matts your English is perfect mate! I can really say "ditto" about what AbducteeS has explained and I totally identify with your phrase "I'm still a little perplexed, but reading the books will continue." That's exactly what I did, kept reading, and now, after having done that, I totally trust both sources: MarshallVS/the Angelic Unseen Ones and the group of Allies. There isn't one single false prediction or the likes in those books - true some of the things cannot yet be proven and you just have to trust your inner voice, but if you look around...wow man, false predictions, false promises, half truths...this Forum has actually pointed out most of them:-)

[danimyl]

Having just started my second read of Life in the Universe I wanted to jump in here with a recommendation.

This is a stark contrast from almost everything most of us have ever supposed or imagined about the interactions among races who are universally vying for access to limited resources. Much to the disappointment of anyone who wants to believe that a visitor from beyond would be benevolent or at least neutral, the picture that emerges here is quite the opposite.

Free energy? Forget it. Enlightenment does not go hand in hand with technological advancement. Sound familiar? No advanced nation will mount an expedition to come here and hold our hand through humanity's adolescent stages of evolution, and the reason why is so simple we should be kicking ourselves for not understanding it in all its universal simplicity.

It's too expensive.

The only reason to come here is for gain. What to do we have that other planets lack? Biology. Very diverse biology and lots of it. In a universe of barren planets, that makes Earth a coveted gem. The pace at which we are spoiling this place makes this a very urgent matter in the eyes of our envious neighbors.

In other words, we've emerged into a competitive market and a leveraged buyout is not far off. Read on. Freedom is rare in all societies. States infiltrate religion to guard against subversion. What I've taken away from the latest MV Summers offering is the firm conviction that we are on the verge of permanently spoiling one of the sweetest deals in galactic history. There is nothing out there that we should want or need. But if we give up our self-sufficiency we will have little hope of maintaining our sovereignty. This is why human unity is a top priority. This is why we must make do with less, curtail our behavior, and learn discretion with our neighbors/competitors.

[raweya]

Yes... There are also some videos by danielofdoria with the complete Allies 3 book on youtube.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=K2nWvdctcG8

I heard he was thinking about doing the Life in the Universe book too. Hope so.

[raweya]

Posted by Matts (here)
Have read his new "The Great Waves Of Change" and half of "Life in the Universe" and was sometimes very fascinated, sometimes very disturbed. What makes me so amazing is that it should go in the galaxy between the races pretty much the same as here on Earth between the nations. In principle, all argue for the limited resources, it is only prohibited the use of open force (otherwise threatens isolation and therefore no resources were available). But hey, bribery, corruption, seduction - anything goes. And the really "good guys" have to hide somewhere far, so they do not become victims of the influence of other (less good). Sounds to me somehow fascinating creepy. But is it correct? After all, the only source is the "Angelic Voice". I'm still a little perplexed, but reading the books will continue. I also find the course "Steps to Knowledge" quite well to educate myself in being aware.

(Sorry for my English with Google Translator )

Its great to have these translation abilities. So, what is your native language?

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks all, but i think one catch-all thread could loose some desirable detailing. I'm studying some aspects of the messages in this book. I'll just add a few things below, for the catch-all aspect. It would interest me at some point to contrast specifics more deeply along with other sources on our situation in the universe. For me especially the thread on Alien Mind, where the book author just logged in to Avalon, out the blue.

Through the series of Summer's books, a concept is reiterated, to the effect that "the wise ones isolate themselves from contact" to avoid hassles from materialistic-authoritarian-conquest.... Also to develop non-violent civilization, unhindered. Also to maintain non-interference with the predatory-evolutionary-aspect of the universe, even the techno-self-deception of infinite techno-growth. Along with the ethics of letting self-programmed beings have a domain to work out the 'separateness' and indulge in 'supremacy' (of the predatory kind). By contrast, in separation, allowing wisdom to flourish in isolated, independent, enlightened societies which practice a fully-hidden separateness. (All of which is the main experiential feature of physical universe separateness with opposites, potentials, polarity, chirality, yin-yang, etc... While existing as one universe.

This is the perception i've taken and thereby assumed the message was saying something like: "Do not fear the study or the knowledge of wisdom". Rather it would be the politicization of wisdom?-- Which would be attacked and suppressed by mind-controller-types, (on this and on other galactic worlds).... Like the Qilin Gong suppression in China of today or the western suppressions, crucifixions, crusades or witch-hunts (Still happening, perhaps in dribbles or dabs)....? I still wonder what was particularly pointed at on this planet. Or perhaps it was more an explanation that humanity has to actually commit to impending choices. Humanity has the unique possibility of balancing sciences with soulful and 'Knowledge' traits (which are lacking in the technologically-supperior neighbors in the universe)... That certain human talents could elevate our mind-abilities to attain higher conditions of existence, than are possible with aliens who are stuck with superior-technologies alone. That mid-abilities are ultimately superior to advanced technology. (Meant with all due respect to humans who think sciences alone are the ultimate wisdom of existence).

Another big aspect for me was something like... "Brace yourselves now!" The so called disclosure or contact (or market invasion) is indeed going to happen in way which illudes, distracts and mind-controls the unwary... Especially the easily seduced who want that new miracle-drug-addiction (from ETs), and who sell all resources to get it. That we still have some opportunity remaining to promote the notion of demanding better negotiations, in the galactic trade which will (or already ensues under cover)... The nature of current, resource depletion is bad enough to throw our planet into a miserable climatic tail spin. Perhaps a tail spin worse than the so called "climate warming"-- The term which should have been called "earth devastation" instead. The Waves Of Change book was reiterated... Ya, i think there is a crescendo of changes, notable over the decades. How much devastation is needed to alert humanity to galactic trade wars ensuing?

[Matts]

Hello raweya, my native language is german.
Mostly I look and read the posts, active posting only in few cases. And this here is such one. It's very fascinating and sounds truly ... if ... the received voice is really unmixed with the ego - and I assume that Marshall and his family are doing their best to express the stuff as clear as possible - but it's not the transcription of the voice via a radio broadcast. The broadcast emerged in the person hisself. Another question: If the allies are located in our solar system and never were here on earth - how they can have such an insight in our dayly life and affairs? Marshall told us, that it is not that simple to travel over big distances, you must have fuel, free energy ist only seemingly free (you must have instruments to make it available for yourself). Stargates are also a dangerous thing even for the most advanced societies in space....
Thus all sounds very very familiar to our circumstances here on earth, only on a very much wider scale.
On the other side - we still have samples of machines that are using "free" energy. It appears step by step in the media (alternative actually). Even Wilhelm Reich developed such one (Orgone-motor) some 60 years ago.
It's somehow bleak to think, that nearly all ETs (only a very few exceptions) are only competetive (and even not knowing compassion). I heard through lessons about the alternative growing up of (human) individuals, that there may be a more constructive and much less competetive psychological structuring of the mind. I'm sure we are now not structured as "nature" would provided. But this is another story
Until now I'm very grateful for the informations from Marshall Vian Summers and the discussions here in the forum. It gives a furhter insight in the ET-matter and another kick in the ass to get aware of myself and the people and things around me.

[Abductee S]

Based on what I've learned from this book and other books by Summers, I feel that outright disclosure will not happen. It is stated that this Intervention is covert and carried out by small groups of ETs. They have a great advantage as long as they remain hidden. So unless a mishap occurs and a large number of people observe something they shouldn't have, I don't think the governments will disclose.

[niki]

Posted by Abductee S (here)
This book has just been released by Marshall Vian Summers. It explores and explains the nature and interactions of this region of space and the spirituality of the universe.

It may challenge many of your beliefs, but truth often does. Well worth reading. It is in paperback and e-book forms on Amazon, New Knowledge Library, and Barnes and Noble.

I would be interested in others who have read this.

I don't see any link,
can somebody please tell me the link to the book?
really interested to learn about this.

thank you~

~regards from Indonesia~

[GloriousPoetry]

Thanks, I've been looking for an interesting and different type of book to read. This sounds like the stuff I resonate with for various reasons.

[Abductee S]

Posted by niki (here)

Posted by Abductee S (here)
This book has just been released by Marshall Vian Summers. It explores and explains the nature and interactions of this region of space and the spirituality of the universe.

It may challenge many of your beliefs, but truth often does. Well worth reading. It is in paperback and e-book forms on Amazon, New Knowledge Library, and Barnes and Noble.

I would be interested in others who have read this.

I don't see any link,
can somebody please tell me the link to the book?
really interested to learn about this.

thank you~

~regards from Indonesia~

The book is on Amazon and is in paperback and Kindle form. Here is the link to Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Universe-...pr_product_top

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by Abductee S (here)
Based on what I've learned from this book and other books by Summers, I feel that outright disclosure will not happen. It is stated that this Intervention is covert and carried out by small groups of ETs. They have a great advantage as long as they remain hidden. So unless a mishap occurs and a large number of people observe something they shouldn't have, I don't think the governments will disclose.

I've been curious about this...

If a trade agreement had been made between dominant-monopolists and some certain ET group....
If the dominant-monopolists are at some later point of time, thrown out of power....
Does the first contract or agreement with the dominant-monopolist remain in effect?
If so, under which court or which authority? Or is it just covert-anarchy from ETs?

Transparency in governance might also develop. Which suggests disclosure of frauds, ultimately leading to ET? identification--
Presuming reports are correct about ET contracts with dominant-monopolists.

"Disclosure" increasingly seems to becoming a disclosure of financial fraud. If people "follow the money" (far enough).

[Abductee S]

Posted by wavydome (here)

Posted by Abductee S (here)
Based on what I've learned from this book and other books by Summers, I feel that outright disclosure will not happen. It is stated that this Intervention is covert and carried out by small groups of ETs. They have a great advantage as long as they remain hidden. So unless a mishap occurs and a large number of people observe something they shouldn't have, I don't think the governments will disclose.

I've been curious about this...

If a trade agreement had been made between dominant-monopolists and some certain ET group....
If the dominant-monopolists are at some later point of time, thrown out of power....
Does the first contract or agreement with the dominant-monopolist remain in effect?
If so, under which court or which authority? Or is it just covert-anarchy from ETs?

Transparency in governance might also develop. Which suggests disclosure of frauds, ultimately leading to ET? identification--
Presuming reports are correct about ET contracts with dominant-monopolists.

"Disclosure" increasingly seems to becoming a disclosure of financial fraud. If people "follow the money" (far enough).

Yes a good question. My opinion is that the original agreements were made without proper authority from the human race, and thus are poor standing to begin with. It is also stated in the Allies Book 3 that the original agreement was violated by the ET races themselves shortly after it was made. This prompted the original human counterparts to lose faith in the agreement and their dealings with the ETs involved. Those within the US government and the Soviet government (who were involved in the original agreement) began to turn away from the ET presence and attempt to counter it.

This created rifts within both governments. For some humans were strong enough to shake off the conditioning and promises given by the ETs and some were not. Many were simply unaware of the entire situation. As time has progressed, much of this has been forgotten and softened. Yet there remains opposition to the Intervention within parts of these governments. This has caused the change in ET Intervention tactics to focus more on commercial and economic powers for allegiance and influence. These powers strongly influence the political arena and these powers are not accountable to the public at large.

The ET Intervention is focusing on dividing us, causing conflict between us, and the overuse and consumption of our vital natural resources. This is occurring and will drive humanity into desperation and with that, an opening for ET to offer us salvation and an end to our problems. Yet, what that will usher in is loss of everything we value and have created. It will enslave us and our children and unleash a reality that will be totally oppressive and untenable for us. This is the way many emerging races end up in the universe. We are at that threshold and time is running out. It is said in several discourses that our fate will be determined within the next 20 years.