Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Hervé]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Genetics certainly contribute to it. If we are a radio station, genetics is the circuit board, but then we have the transmission, the receivers, the broad cast, the electrical transmission, sound waves, and the programming to contend with as well. And whatever else I left out.

I agree to some degree... however I still consider these following bits the more potent factors in the "creation" of "problems" than anything else:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

... Before R6, and so forth they lived on and on and on and on… there was no such thing as death. They taught people death, they taught them amnesia, these various things. They all come from this zone and area.

[...]

[...]

... beings which are re-wired to create/manifest in their environment exactly what they specifically DO NOT WANT!

Machiavellian to say the least.

[...]

After all, one's body is one's most immediate environment.

With that, some beings are still able to transmute a farm tractor "body" into a Lamborghini as far as their most immediate environment is concerned, most others do the reverse. I guess that you may have "thought" about it a lot, or not and just "did," but... if you are able to get your car running on "empty" for miles... what's so different with a body?

[Hervé]

Posted by SoulAppreciation (here)
[...]

Curious does anyone have any idea of the laws and rules these invaders are bound or governed by? (mentioned by Elton Turner at around 1:44:50)

..and where might all this leave our souls in the grand scheme of things?

You may want to have a good look at this thread and listen to the listed interviews:

Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics

[9eagle9]

Yes Fred now that we agree on that , the issue is why we are the enemy. That is what people don't want to look at but there is where part of the solution lies.

[wynderer]

9Eagle9, you are an intelligent woman -- & a warrioress in your own way -- as another warrioress, i challenge you to watch 'Earthlings' all the way thru & then get back to me

wyn

QUOTE=9eagle9;537493]Eating dead animals, she said dryly, is preferable to eating living animals live.

I would make a request. If I give a heartfelt question, please don't give me a video-ized version of someone else's truth. That tells me a number of things, that you aren't seriously invested in your own truth, because its not really yours. It's someone elses. What I am asking of you is coming from me, not someone else.[/QUOTE]

[modwiz]

Posted by wynderer (here)
9Eagle9, you are an intelligent woman -- & a warrioress in your own way -- as another warrioress, i challenge you to watch 'Earthlings' all the way thru & then get back to me

wyn

QUOTE=9eagle9;537493]Eating dead animals, she said dryly, is preferable to eating living animals live.

I would make a request. If I give a heartfelt question, please don't give me a video-ized version of someone else's truth. That tells me a number of things, that you aren't seriously invested in your own truth, because its not really yours. It's someone elses. What I am asking of you is coming from me, not someone else.[/QUOTE]

This is an odd way to honor a request.

[wynderer]

i'm an odd person -- my friends are very tolerant folk [odd by Earth Human standards, that is]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
9Eagle9, you are an intelligent woman -- & a warrioress in your own way -- as another warrioress, i challenge you to watch 'Earthlings' all the way thru & then get back to me

wyn

QUOTE=9eagle9;537493]Eating dead animals, she said dryly, is preferable to eating living animals live.

I would make a request. If I give a heartfelt question, please don't give me a video-ized version of someone else's truth. That tells me a number of things, that you aren't seriously invested in your own truth, because its not really yours. It's someone elses. What I am asking of you is coming from me, not someone else.[/QUOTE]

This is an odd way to honor a request.

[9eagle9]

I am given to take then you are the creator of Earthlings and that is an expression that came from yourself?

or as I said, earlier that is a way for you to avoid an authentic answer and give over to me someone elses truth?

* Watching videos isn't a challenge, using ones own wherewithall is...*

[modwiz]

Posted by wynderer (here)
i'm an odd person -- my friends are very tolerant folk

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
9Eagle9, you are an intelligent woman -- & a warrioress in your own way -- as another warrioress, i challenge you to watch 'Earthlings' all the way thru & then get back to me

wyn

QUOTE=9eagle9;537493]Eating dead animals, she said dryly, is preferable to eating living animals live.

I would make a request. If I give a heartfelt question, please don't give me a video-ized version of someone else's truth. That tells me a number of things, that you aren't seriously invested in your own truth, because its not really yours. It's someone elses. What I am asking of you is coming from me, not someone else.[/QUOTE]

This is an odd way to honor a request.

Passive/aggressive is what your kind of oddity is perceived as by those who are astute enough to see how they are being played.

No more energy from me.

[wynderer]

i am very disappointed in you, 9Eagle9 -- a warrioress turning a challenge down thru use of words on the net -- tch, tch

what about watching 'Earthlings'? -- i think i remember you posting something about not liking to look negativity in the face [paraphrasing]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I am given to take then you are the creator of Earthlings and that is an expression that came from yourself?

or as I said, earlier that is a way for you to avoid an authentic answer and give over to me someone elses truth?

[9eagle9]

Lol. Some people are genetically inclined just to cause problems. You I suspect are one of them.

The bottom line here much of our conscious programming and the way it has been preserved has been patterned or duplicated on how genetics and dna work. Dna is meant to be self preserving, and so are the psyche programs.

Then someone (thing) hit on the idea of programming the two, in a coincident way. Why stick to mangling one's psyche when you can horse around with their physical body as well.

I happen to agree that that programming such as the R6 you refer to presents a bigger problem. Genetics seems to be , often times, a road block to clearing certain types of programming. There are deaths that are genetically programmed to occur, or rather coincide with the programs running through people's minds. What we call death contracts, on a conscious level those are fairly easy to clear.

Death is very much a program, one of the oldest population control programs we have out there. And all this time we thought it was something new the ptb cooked up .We've gotten people to accept it as such anyway as a natural 'progression of life'.. I would imagine in getting people to accept death as we have been told death to be, we've forgotten that is is a program that has been instilled in us. All the moral arguments about how death brings us to god, its rather unnecessary. It seems like a very small challenge to simply align with your maker because you dropped dead --something nearly everyone can do these days--Lo but a much greater challenge to align with Creation while living and wallowing under all these conditions.

It seems much more economical environmentally to have one container . A new definition of simplify your life( lives).

For free spirited people who don't give much thought to death, we have doctors to remind and even begin triggering the death process. As people say , the fastest way to get sick is to visit the doctor. You walk in for a check up and you leave raddled in imminent doom thoughts.


Aging is a program that is consciously and genetically coincident. Take the consciousness portion of it out of the equation and it has a hard time triggering the genetic program it's running along.

Many diseases are as well. Genetically speaking bio-engineered diseases are adapted to key in to our shared genetic structures. Whomever was playing with genetics left a situation open to where our genetics could be compromised to allow disease to invade.

Menopause--another program that is revered as the 'time of the crone'. We are taught to honor and revere our genetic programming that speeds along the consciousness death program.

Programs or conditions that work coincident with genetics and even race. I don't know a lot of white people that lay awake at night worrying they will get sickle cell anemia. Their reality is far different than certain black people who may be genetically inclined towards having that disease expressed.

If you know what I mean.

There's a reason for that well. If we just arranged programming to compromise us through consciousness someone eventually is going to wake up to that (and we have) so double security system is , in some instances, required. Make sure we have consciousness compromising conditions and genetically compromised programming to back it up.

I have no idea how people cope who are heavily compromised with both, or find their way out from under that grid lock with out becoming consciously aware of what they are burdened by First. So in that respect I agree one must come to some sort of conscious clarity to tackle the genetic portion of it.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Genetics certainly contribute to it. If we are a radio station, genetics is the circuit board, but then we have the transmission, the receivers, the broad cast, the electrical transmission, sound waves, and the programming to contend with as well. And whatever else I left out.

I agree to some degree... however I still consider these following bits the more potent factors in the "creation" of "problems" than anything else:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

... Before R6, and so forth they lived on and on and on and on… there was no such thing as death. They taught people death, they taught them amnesia, these various things. They all come from this zone and area.

[...]

[...]

... beings which are re-wired to create/manifest in their environment exactly what they specifically DO NOT WANT!

Machiavellian to say the least.

[...]

After all, one's body is one's most immediate environment.

With that, some beings are still able to transmute a farm tractor "body" into a Lamborghini as far as their most immediate environment is concerned, most others do the reverse. I guess that you may have "thought" about it a lot, or not and just "did," but... if you are able to get your car running on "empty" for miles... what's so different with a body?

[modwiz]

Tsk tsk, lady raptor of the ninth energy. You have been disapproved of by a school marm who has given you a homework assignment that you refuse to attend to.

May your eggshells be thin and break.

Do bald eagle omelets cause hair loss?

[wynderer]

this is going to sound really rude -- mods/admins, feel free to delete -- but -- sometimes, 9Eagle9 & Justoneman, when reading your lengthy posts, what comes to mind is something the Original People of the land i was born in say comes to mind: 'White people talk too much'

also our Original Peoples have observed that white people live in their heads, & not in their hearts

9Eagle9, the challenge to you to watch 'Earthlings' is a challenge to your heart

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Lol. Some people are genetically inclined just to cause problems. You I suspect are one of them.

The bottom line here much of our conscious programming and the way it has been preserved has been patterned or duplicated on how genetics and dna work. Dna is meant to be self preserving, and so are the psyche programs.

Then someone (thing) hit on the idea of programming the two, in a coincident way. Why stick to mangling one's psyche when you can horse around with their physical body as well.

I happen to agree that that programming such as the R6 you refer to presents a bigger problem. Genetics seems to be , often times, a road block to clearing certain types of programming. There are deaths that are genetically programmed to occur, or rather coincide with the programs running through people's minds. What we call death contracts, on a conscious level those are fairly easy to clear.

Death is very much a program, one of the oldest population control programs we have out there. And all this time we thought it was something new the ptb cooked up .We've gotten people to accept it as such anyway as a natural 'progression of life'.. I would imagine in getting people to accept death as we have been told death to be, we've forgotten that is is a program that has been instilled in us. All the moral arguments about how death brings us to god, its rather unnecessary. It seems like a very small challenge to simply align with your maker because you dropped dead --something nearly everyone can do these days--Lo but a much greater challenge to align with Creation while living and wallowing under all these conditions.

It seems much more economical environmentally to have one container . A new definition of simplify your life( lives).

For free spirited people who don't give much thought to death, we have doctors to remind and even begin triggering the death process. As people say , the fastest way to get sick is to visit the doctor. You walk in for a check up and you leave raddled in imminent doom thoughts.


Aging is a program that is consciously and genetically coincident. Take the consciousness portion of it out of the equation and it has a hard time triggering the genetic program it's running along.

Many diseases are as well. Genetically speaking bio-engineered diseases are adapted to key in to our shared genetic structures. Whomever was playing with genetics left a situation open to where our genetics could be compromised to allow disease to invade.

Menopause--another program that is revered as the 'time of the crone'. We are taught to honor and revere our genetic programming that speeds along the consciousness death program.

Programs or conditions that work coincident with genetics and even race. I don't know a lot of white people that lay awake at night worrying they will get sickle cell anemia. Their reality is far different than certain black people who may be genetically inclined towards having that disease expressed.

If you know what I mean.

There's a reason for that well. If we just arranged programming to compromise us through consciousness someone eventually is going to wake up to that (and we have) so double security system is , in some instances, required. Make sure we have consciousness compromising conditions and genetically compromised programming to back it up.

I have no idea how people cope who are heavily compromised with both, or find their way out from under that grid lock with out becoming consciously aware of what they are burdened by First. So in that respect I agree one must come to some sort of conscious clarity to tackle the genetic portion of it.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Genetics certainly contribute to it. If we are a radio station, genetics is the circuit board, but then we have the transmission, the receivers, the broad cast, the electrical transmission, sound waves, and the programming to contend with as well. And whatever else I left out.

I agree to some degree... however I still consider these following bits the more potent factors in the "creation" of "problems" than anything else:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

... Before R6, and so forth they lived on and on and on and on… there was no such thing as death. They taught people death, they taught them amnesia, these various things. They all come from this zone and area.

[...]

[...]

... beings which are re-wired to create/manifest in their environment exactly what they specifically DO NOT WANT!

Machiavellian to say the least.

[...]

After all, one's body is one's most immediate environment.

With that, some beings are still able to transmute a farm tractor "body" into a Lamborghini as far as their most immediate environment is concerned, most others do the reverse. I guess that you may have "thought" about it a lot, or not and just "did," but... if you are able to get your car running on "empty" for miles... what's so different with a body?

[9eagle9]

Do you know what a direct answer is? Or are you going to prove Modwiz correct repeatedly. A warrior actually engages directly not by avoidance.

I'm not a warrior by the way. That is label you are assigning to me very likely by observing the wrong sort of media on the forum of late, so you can build up a false image of me and then attempt to push into a puddle.

Sorry someone already attempted that this week.

Posted by wynderer (here)
i am very disappointed in you, 9Eagle9 -- a warrioress turning a challenge down thru use of words on the net -- tch, tch

what about watching 'Earthlings'? -- i think i remember you posting something about not liking to look negativity in the face [paraphrasing]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I am given to take then you are the creator of Earthlings and that is an expression that came from yourself?

or as I said, earlier that is a way for you to avoid an authentic answer and give over to me someone elses truth?

[wynderer]

to what do you request a direct answer? [& i notice you are avoiding any mention of 'Earthlings' ]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Do you know what a direct answer is? Or are you going to prove Modwiz correct repeatedly. A warrior actually engages directly not by avoidance.

I'm not a warrior by the way. That is label you are assigning to me very likely by observing the wrong sort of media on the forum of late, so you can build up a false image of me and then attempt to push into a puddle.

Sorry someone already attempted that this week.

Posted by wynderer (here)
i am very disappointed in you, 9Eagle9 -- a warrioress turning a challenge down thru use of words on the net -- tch, tch

what about watching 'Earthlings'? -- i think i remember you posting something about not liking to look negativity in the face [paraphrasing]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I am given to take then you are the creator of Earthlings and that is an expression that came from yourself?

or as I said, earlier that is a way for you to avoid an authentic answer and give over to me someone elses truth?

[9eagle9]

Wynder If I watch Earthlings (lovely label) and deconstruct it in my own usual fashion how happy are you going to be?

White people who have something relevant to say are going to be like anyone else of any color that has something relevant to say no matter how long winded. If you implying that you are a person of color and your brevity of passive aggressive mud pie making is some how relevant only because of its brevity, I'm going to agree.

Origin-al species are not arranged by color by the way.

[9eagle9]

Ever directly: It's a load of programmed bull****, that is meant to leverage one's emotional heart strings, and keep one in a superficial area of definition so no deeper exploration can branch out from without some emotional prohibition.

Posted by wynderer (here)
to what do you request a direct answer? [& i notice you are avoiding any mention of 'Earthlings' ]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Do you know what a direct answer is? Or are you going to prove Modwiz correct repeatedly. A warrior actually engages directly not by avoidance.

I'm not a warrior by the way. That is label you are assigning to me very likely by observing the wrong sort of media on the forum of late, so you can build up a false image of me and then attempt to push into a puddle.

Sorry someone already attempted that this week.

Posted by wynderer (here)
i am very disappointed in you, 9Eagle9 -- a warrioress turning a challenge down thru use of words on the net -- tch, tch

what about watching 'Earthlings'? -- i think i remember you posting something about not liking to look negativity in the face [paraphrasing]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I am given to take then you are the creator of Earthlings and that is an expression that came from yourself?

or as I said, earlier that is a way for you to avoid an authentic answer and give over to me someone elses truth?

[wynderer]

9Eagle8, i am going to drop this line of discourse now -- it is unproductive

i have recently realized that i am extremely 'emotionally immature' -- & i must confess that, re you & 'Earthlings,' what comes to mind is a '50s USA childrens' playground taunt: 'Scaredy cat! Scaredy cat!' [grew up near Philly ]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Wynder If I watch Earthlings (lovely label) and deconstruct it in my own usual fashion how happy are you going to be?

White people who have something relevant to say are going to be like anyone else of any color that has something relevant to say no matter how long winded. If you implying that you are a person of color and your brevity of passive aggressive mud pie making is some how relevant only because of its brevity, I'm going to agree.

Origin-al species are not arranged by color by the way.

[9eagle9]

I agree with you.

Posted by wynderer (here)
9Eagle8, i am going to drop this line of discourse now -- it is unproductive

i have recently realized that i am extremely 'emotionally immature' -- & i must confess that, re you & 'Earthlings,' what comes to mind is a '50s USA childrens' playground taunt: 'Scaredy cat! Scaredy cat!' [grew up near Philly ]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Wynder If I watch Earthlings (lovely label) and deconstruct it in my own usual fashion how happy are you going to be?

White people who have something relevant to say are going to be like anyone else of any color that has something relevant to say no matter how long winded. If you implying that you are a person of color and your brevity of passive aggressive mud pie making is some how relevant only because of its brevity, I'm going to agree.

Origin-al species are not arranged by color by the way.

[Hervé]

Wynderer,

I would highly recommend for you to to really get the concept of what a "straw man" (<-- click) is and compare it to what you are doing on this thread.

[wynderer]

from my p.o.v., i am speaking from the heart -- very close to my heart are the Animals

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Wynderer,

I would highly recommend for you to to really get the concept of what a "straw man" (<-- click) is and compare it to what you are doing on this thread.