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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by Operator (here)
    If Arthur (Henry Deacon) was right then why didn't they use the same technology on STS-31 ?
    That was the mission to deploy the Hubble Space Telescope. It reached an altitude of 385 miles but allegedly had to reduce it (NASA reports 330 miles) because the astronauts reported symptoms of radiation sickness.

    There are other reasons to doubt the validity of the Apollo program. The technique as explained by Arthur may have been applied ... but not on Apollo.
    since the moon landing had a big impact on the world and somehow settled the leading position of USA, it makes sense they would have used black-project-technology to acomplish it, just think about the impact if this would have gone wrong !
    i think the random NASA-Projects like Mars-Rover and STS are just kindergarten science labs, also they are a good playground to find special skilled scientists and redirect them into the real deal.

    but thats just my opinion


    edit: sorry for pushing a bit to offtopic
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Re: Frank Vidal and Sal Conti

    How did kristavidz find Frank Vidal and the videos so quickly?

    SilentFeathers are you kristavidz, or do you know kristavidz? Or did you find the kristavidz videos simply during a search?

    Apologies if this was covered already, or if some of this is common knowledge.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by seehas (here)
    since the olympia doom and gloom didnt showed up i see you guys hopping on the next fear-train, for me its just another channeled information and i dont label it trustworthy because of "nasa" , or a guy claiming it.

    when it comes to fear humans are like sheeples they just cant avoid it, its so easy to trace them of the track

    live love and avoid fear no matter if the earth will explode tomorrow, remember its just an illusion !
    Examining new information proffered by someone claiming to be a NASA scientist talking with aliens and having a warning for us is not "hopping on the next fear train" and to say that is really not helpful to encouraging truth seeking and analysis. I think we can examine the facts, dig for more information and decide what is truthful or more than likely truthful given a preponderance of evidence.

    I really see little worthy in portraying truth seekers as dim witted wackos unless the goal is to get people to not bring up topics and therefore out of the fear of being tagged "idiot", "fear porn addict", "agent", "troll". I sincerely hope that isn't what you are intimating.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    what i realy mean by hopping on the fear train are the 14 pages in 2 days,
    sure its a truthseekers job to look at all sides of the medal and special the ones you dont want to see, but what i can see also in our forum here is that fear based topics get a huge interest and the herd runs like wild for example olympic games in london. (i just dont like seeing so much energy spent into this doom and gloom stuff)

    i dont want to discredit your work in bringing this coin of stuff up here, its more i like to throw some icecubes into boiling water - i dont want people to fear.

    on the other side its fun to see how the community resolved it pretty quick , so dont get me wrong but since we are in the age of the false prophets maybe i should get used to it


    and guys dont blame bill and kerry to much for trusting this guy , since they did a great job in interviewing so many persons, if they denied 50% of this interviews because they called some of them crazy, we would miss a big load of information !
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, when I first saw this video I quickly sent it off to 2 of my physicist friends asking if 'Dr. Sal' was full of baloney. I just got an answer from the first who is an astronomer, here is his reply:

    Quote I can give you the science facts and then you can decide by yourself:

    1. The magnetic field of Earth is generated by a dynamo effect due to the rotation of the core of the Earth with respect to the molten (mostly iron) surrounding it.

    2. The polarity of the magnetic field changes with time (i.e. right now we have the North magnetic pole pointing towards the geographical North pole in the past and at some point in the future this will flip and the South magnetic pole will align with the North geographical pole).

    3. The flipping is random, as opposite to the flipping of the magnetic field on the Sun that happens regularly every 22 years. We don't have a good understanding and/or model to explain it. 

    4. We have record of the flipping in magnetic sensitive rocks (mostly basalt) and the last flipping happened around 780,000 years ago..

    5. Usually the flipping is gradual and slow (in human life terms not geological). There has been at least one event when the flipping has happened on a very short time scale (the flipping is roughly 180 degrees, this change happened at a rate of 6 degrees/day taking roughly a month....).

    6. We don't have a good empirical data to infer what happened then...
    My conclusion: the actor doesn't know what he is talking about (but he is a good actor).
    ...and as I said earlier at no point does the magnetic field DROP completely.

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    Re: Frank Vidal and Sal Conti

    How did kristavidz find Frank Vidal and the videos so quickly?

    SilentFeathers are you kristavidz, or do you know kristavidz? Or did you find the kristavidz videos simply during a search?

    Apologies if this was covered already, or if some of this is common knowledge.
    I found kristavidz claiming Sal a hoax linking these two videos just by simply looking in the comment section to Sal's video, so no, I'm not nor do I know kristavidz.

    This pretty much smells like a hoax to me, I'm waiting to see how Cobra, Drake and a few others play this.

    This is some juicy stuff for them to spin!

    ADDED: and BTW, according to Sal now, it won't take Nibiru, the GFL or any other Aliens, or tptb etc etc etc to kill most of us off, the Earth Herself will do it! sheesh! I've heard enough, what ever happens happens and if it's something this severe as Sal or Vidal says we all may as well enjoy what time we got left!

    At least he says 2016 folks, could be worse! He could of said 12-21-2012!!!!!!!

    I'd say this calls for a celebration! we have 4 more yrs than expected!

    sheesh, come on folks!
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by nearing (here)
    Ladies and Gentlemen, when I first saw this video I quickly sent it off to 2 of my physicist friends asking if 'Dr. Sal' was full of baloney. I just got an answer from the first who is an astronomer, here is his reply:

    Quote I can give you the science facts and then you can decide by yourself:

    1. The magnetic field of Earth is generated by a dynamo effect due to the rotation of the core of the Earth with respect to the molten (mostly iron) surrounding it.

    2. The polarity of the magnetic field changes with time (i.e. right now we have the North magnetic pole pointing towards the geographical North pole in the past and at some point in the future this will flip and the South magnetic pole will align with the North geographical pole).

    3. The flipping is random, as opposite to the flipping of the magnetic field on the Sun that happens regularly every 22 years. We don't have a good understanding and/or model to explain it.

    4. We have record of the flipping in magnetic sensitive rocks (mostly basalt) and the last flipping happened around 780,000 years ago..

    5. Usually the flipping is gradual and slow (in human life terms not geological). There has been at least one event when the flipping has happened on a very short time scale (the flipping is roughly 180 degrees, this change happened at a rate of 6 degrees/day taking roughly a month....).

    6. We don't have a good empirical data to infer what happened then...
    My conclusion: the actor doesn't know what he is talking about (but he is a good actor).
    Good job, good answers, and good solid information. The above is my understanding as well. Your astronomer friend could have added that statistically speaking, the next magnetic pole reversal is long overdue.
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Both Sal and Enrico seem like ghosts....both having fresh google plus accounts, Enrico having a fresh YT account, no one can validate they actually exist etc. Sal. Enrico may be the same person.....and Sal and Enrico may be the creation of Vidal? who knows.

    Enrico's first contact on YT actually listens to Drake and a bunch of other controversial stuff as does all his other contacts......

    Both google accounts look fresh and planted....

    Looks and smells a bit fishy to me....
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    After a lot of digging i found Frank Vidals facebook page, which he shares with his wife Brenda. Many of their albums are public so if you have facebook log on and have a look at the pictures.
    Here is the link http://www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=1082522027

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    one way to find out what we know ( or suspect) to better hone thier next "production" ?

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth



    That looks like our Dr. Sal. But, it's from Vidal's page.








    I took liberty with the above pic and added a mole... I know, not a good job, but hopefully helpful in judging possibilities:

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
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    I took liberty with the above pic and added a mole... I know, not a good job, but hopefully helpful in judging possibilities:

    My opinion, these pictures are of the same man claiming to be Dr.Salvatore Conti in the original video. What is the agenda here?, and why was this video made?

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    I wonder what Mr. Frank Vidal is thinking if he isn't Dr. Sal Conti? Anyone asked him? I don't have a Facebook account or I would.

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    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    Carmody did I not read your thread not long ago about Teslas communicating with aliens that was instant, when the military found out they shut him down, and Marconi then diminished the system down from going beyond the speed of light?? and wasn't that from the RCA control, that's what did not make sense to me, its still stuck there in my mind, that this guy does not know that they have communication beyond speed of light towards anywhere in the universe.

    Is it also not possible that the great actor within want to do the same stunt as the guy who created the fear on the radio in the 50s with the war of the worlds

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Here is the motherlode for all these psy-ops disinfo recurring campaigns:

    From: http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/...s-nemesis.html:


    Excerpts from a paper by Lynn Yarris, LBL Research Review / Science Beat Berkeley Lab
    Mon, 13 Apr 1987 11:02 CDT

    The iridium layer
    Sandwiched between the limestone of the two periods, forming a clear line of demarcation, is a thin maybe one-half-inch thick layer of red clay. Immediately below this clay layer, the Cretaceous limestone is heavily populated with a wide mix of the tiny fossils of marine creatures called forams. Above the clay layer, in the Tertiary limestone, however, the fossils of but a single species of foram can be seen. The clay layer itself contains no foram fossils at all.

    When Walter Alvarez brought his samples back to Berkeley, his father, LBL Nobel laureate physicist Luis Alvarez, suggested that subjecting them to neutron activation analysis could help determine how long it took for the clay layer to form. The analysis, performed by LBL nuclear chemists Frank Asaro and Helen Michel, revealed to the surprise of everyone involved that the clay was about 600 times richer in iridium than the surrounding limestone.

    [...]

    Then, in 1984, came a report from two University of Chicago paleontologists, David Raup and John Sepkoski, who had put together a detailed list of sea life that had become extinct during the past 250 million years. Containing more than 3,500 different species, it was the most complete extinction list ever compiled. When they subjected their list to computer analysis, Raup and Sepkoski discovered that mass extinctions occur periodically, approximately every 26 to 30 million years.


    A PLOT OF DATA ON LIFE EXTINCTIONS, COLLECTED BY DAVID RAUP AND JOHN SEPKOSKI AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, SHOWS PEAKS IN THE EXTINCTION RATE OCCURRING AT 26- TO 30-MILLION-YEAR INTERVALS, AS INDICATED BY ARROWS

    Scientists immediately scrambled to find an explanation that could account for a persistent, recurring cycle of planet-wide species die-outs. Volcanic eruptions were the most obvious suspects, but volcanoes fail to account for the clay layer, the high soot content and, most significantly, the high iridium concentrations. Casting further doubt on the culpability of volcanoes was the discovery of shock quartz and microtektites along with the iridium and soot in the clay layer samples taken from around the world.


    Shock quartz silt-sized grains of quartz, which, under a microscope, show cracks and strains, is formed in the heat and pressure of a powerful explosion. It showed up routinely in rocks brought back from the moon by the lunar astronauts, but on Earth it has been found only in meteorite craters and at nuclear weapon test sites.

    Microtektites are tiny pieces of glass, believed to be droplets of rock that were melted in the heat of an impact and hurled up beyond the atmosphere where they cooled. Upon reentry, the droplets were reheated. The heating-cooling-reheating sequence gave the microtektites in the clay layer a unique spherule shape.

    [...]

    Ruling out other terrestrial causes, many scientists turned to the heavens. One possibility was meteorites, which are chips of asteroids or planets moving randomly through space. However, a mechanism to explain the periodicity of the extinctions has yet to be found.

    [...]

    The trillions of comets in the Oort cloud generally maintain a slow but steady orbit around the sun. Occasionally, the gravitational field of a passing star will jar some comets loose, but few of these ever reach the inner solar system (Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars), as the gravitational pulls of Jupiter and Saturn acting somewhat like giant vacuum cleaners keep this part of the system relatively clean of comets and other space debris.

    However, a strong enough gravitational force could dislodge so many comets that, through sheer numbers, the inner solar system's protective cleaning mechanism would be overwhelmed. One of the first possible sources of this gravitational force to be considered was the molecular dust clouds in the central plane of the Milky Way. As the solar system revolves around the center of the galaxy, it bobs up and down, periodically crossing through the star-crowded central plane that is foggy with molecular dust star stuff that never coalesced. One of the many problems with this suggestion is that measurements have shown the molecular dust clouds to be far too thinly dispersed to exert sufficient tidal gravitational force. Also, the bobbing of the sun does not match the times of extinction, in fact, the sun is close to the central plane right now.

    Another source of gravitational pull that has been proposed is the existence of a tenth planet in the solar system. Called "Planet X," this planet would be a gas ball as much as five times the size of Earth, occupying a peculiar shifting orbit that is tilted at an angle to the solar plane of the nine known planets. This theory also calls for the existence of an as yet undetected inner disk of the Oort cloud, between the orbits of Neptune and Pluto. Every 26 to 30 million years, the orbit of Planet X would be shifted so that it would scrape the edge of the inner disk, sending a host of comets towards the sun. The major problem with this proposal is that the hypothetical inner disk of the Oort cloud would be unstable and could not remain a disk. Consequently, comets would be shaken loose in a steady shower over the 26 to 30 million year time periods, rather than torn loose in a concentrated storm.


    A mechanism to explain the periodicity of the extinctions

    The Nemesis theory fulfills all the requirements prescribed by the Raup and Sepkoski mass extinction timetable.

    As envisioned by Muller, Davis, and Hut, Nemesis is probably a red dwarf, the most common type of star in the galaxy (three-fourths of all the stars in the Milky Way are believed to be red dwarfs). Less than a third the size of the sun and about one one-thousandth as bright, Nemesis might travel in an elliptical orbit that at its perihelion (closest point) brings it within a half light year of the sun (one light year is about six trillion miles) and into the midst of the Oort Cloud. Right now, Nemesis may be at its aphelion (most distant point), nearly three light years away. The sun's closest known neighbor, Proxima Centauri, is about 4.25 light years distant.

    [...]

    The evidence for Nemesis-triggered periodic comet storms based on cosmic ray exposure ages was drawn primarily from reviews of existing data. "In these days of tight budgets," observes Muller wryly, "the cheapest way to do research is in the library." Another review of existing data, this time by Muller and LBL physicist Donald Morris, uncovered evidence for periodic comet storms in the Earth's magnetic field.

    Volcanic rock, as it cools from the lava state, aligns itself with the Earth's magnetic field. In 1906, French physicist Bernard Brunhes discovered volcanic rock magnetized in the opposite direction of today's field. It is now known that the Earth's magnetic field has reversed itself many times throughout the planet's history, and at times has even been switched off. Muller and Morris felt that at least some of these geomagnetic flips were caused by comet impacts, and they developed a model to explain how it happened.

    The Earth's magnetic field is generated by slow eddies in its molten nickel-iron core that are the product of the heat flow out of the core, modified by the planet's rotation. When a crashing comet plunges the world into darkness, temperatures on the land drop much faster than those in the sea because water retains heat much longer than soil. According to the model of Muller and Morris, water near the equator evaporates and is redistributed as ice and snow on the polar caps. The result is a sudden (within a few hundred years) drop in the level of the oceans. In accordance with the conservation of angular momentum, the redistribution of mass alters the rotation rate of the Earth's crust and mantle with respect to the liquid core and leads to a disruption of the magnetic field.

    "It is the same as when figure skaters go into a spin with their arms extended, then draw their arms in to increase their rotational speed," says Muller. "The Earth's magnetism is so sensitive to the motions of the liquid core that it doesn't take much of a change in rotational rate to affect the field."

    Prior to the work of Muller and Morris, Chicago's Raup had examined the frequency of 296 geomagnetic reversals that took place during the last 170 million years and found peaks in the rate of reversals occurring approximately every 30 million years.

    Deposits of microtektites were also found in volcanic and seabed rocks from times when reversals took place. There was a sudden drop in sea level during the die-out of the dinosaurs, but there is no evidence of a geomagnetic reversal. This does not blemish the model of Muller and Morris, however, for it predicts that magnetic excursions, during which the field is turned off, would result from half of the impacts. Magnetic excursions are difficult to detect in volcanic rock.

    "Our model readily explains observed geophysical correlations, and accounts for the behavior of the Earth's magnetic field during a reversal," says Morris. "Although somewhat speculative, it is based on assumptions that are considered plausible by experts in the relevant scientific fields."

    A geomagnetic reversal could also take place should the polar caps melt and cause a sudden swelling of the seas. This, too, would alter the rotation of the Earth's crust and mantle with respect to the core and disrupt the dynamo.

    [...]

    Perhaps the most important aspect of the Nemesis theory, and the one for which we as a species can be most grateful, is that the deadly little companion star is not due to return until the year 15 million A.D.

    *********************************************

    There they are -- most of them -- these doom & gloom scenarii all taken out of context, made darker than a black hole and all of them, VERY CONVENIENTLY, OMITTING THE LAST PARAGRAPH!

    The reason, I think, why these various scenarii are spread far and wide is simply to heavily push (sledgehammer-strength) the buttons of the planet's collective unconscious memory... planet-wide wholesale nuclear wars included (nuclear explosions origin for shock quartz and microtektites being discounted with a "How dare you consider earlier highly developed technological civilizations ever existed prior to ours?"). That same reason explains why so many people "believe" these scenarii to be real and true.

    Anyway, just another side of the currency dice.

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    US,
    those are priceless pictures. Is it already mystery solved? Perhaps they are twins.... aahhhgg why people do things like this? I'm just saying.... in case he's really an actor (I don't think he's a twin).

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    Carmody did I not read your thread not long ago about Teslas communicating with aliens that was instant, when the military found out they shut him down, and Marconi then diminished the system down from going beyond the speed of light?? and wasn't that from the RCA control, that's what did not make sense to me, its still stuck there in my mind, that this guy does not know that they have communication beyond speed of light towards anywhere in the universe.

    Is it also not possible that the great actor within want to do the same stunt as the guy who created the fear on the radio in the 50s with the war of the worlds

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    Actually, I've never written on Tesla and these so called communications, but I have heard of the story. I don't recall any more details than that.
    7redorbs wrote that & a lot more on the topic, eric dollars has brought a lot of the tesla/Marconi works back to modern relevance
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Is this the calm after the storm?

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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    Quote erhaps the most important aspect of the Nemesis theory, and the one for which we as a species can be most grateful, is that the deadly little companion star is not due to return until the year 15 million A.D.

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    There they are -- most of them -- these doom & gloom scenarii all taken out of context, made darker than a black hole and all of them, VERY CONVENIENTLY, OMITTING THE LAST PARAGRAPH!


    This doesnt mean anything...scientists are constantly doubling back and forth becuz THEY HAVE NO CLUE!!!!

    In 2002 it was discovered tht bones fossilize in 12 years not millions ( I was in a field school in Kenya) Anna K. Behrensmeyer, paleoanthropologist said it to all of us students. These "time lines" are always written in books WITHOUT having any real grit to it. Time..Lol!
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    Default Re: [HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

    the ptb hide in the open, they could have hired the actor, gave him bits of real information, he did his part, now the disinformation plan is out, most will say end of civilization ahh that was proven to be a hoax, meanwhile behind the scenes, everyone is unprepaired and the real thing happens. Noah spoke for years of a coming flood ( 700 year old man building a boat in the middle of the desert that never gets rain ) the flood came and seven people survived. they thought the old man with the hammer , nails, was off his rocker...
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