Here and Now...What's Happening?

[greybeard]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Hi Bob
I did not do anything but meditation K just awoke.
Adyashanti in one of his interviews (Spontaneous awakening Sounds True) said that K awakening can be a precursor to enlightenment and continue after that state in order for the body to "harmonise" my word. K energy happened within him for years before and after enlightenment.
Seems that the body needs to go through this change in order to house the raised energy of the in-dweller.
The nervous system needs to be strengthened or it would fry--- smiling.

Chris

Thanks for your comments, Chris!

Nisargadatta said that he never had any K, and yet I consider him among the great sages and one of the only truly liberated people I have ever encountered. On the other hand, I studied with Baba Muktananda, considered the top K master and a Siddha, until he was outed for sex with young girls.

I have experienced plenty of K, but recognized it as nothing, just dream phenomena, that have no impact on the core contraction, the sense of separate self -- "me and mine". Moreover, I have witnessed hundreds of folks up close and personal over the years involved with chasing K phenomena, and not one would I consider at all awake, but for the most part, even more confused than the ordinary person who never heard of K.

Hi Bob
Agree that chasing K awakening is a very "me" thing to do.
I dont.
On Dr Goels ashram I did have an extended period of bliss and other "experiences" but I know that which comes and goes is not it.
However the mind is virtually silent and you know what Ramana said about that.
K awakening has been a blessing for me for many reasons.

Chris

[another bob]

Posted by greybeard (here)
K awakening has been a blessing for me for many reasons.

Happy to hear that, Brother!

I suppose my main point is that fascination with internal yogic phenomena can be, and usually are, nothing but a distraction.

I'll leave it at that.

Blessings!

[Eram]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Dang, it took me forever to find this old post, to bring it back, here and now. The topic of sungazing has been coming back up, so here we go:

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
@eaglespirit

the solar element is very important. Several times you've mentioned it, and I've always gotten side tracked before responding. A few years ago I was hanging out with hermes and he taught me to form the caduces within the body.

first you focus on the sun. Then, with the inbreath, you breath in the light through the forehead. It helps if you have actual sunlight, but with practice visualization works too. Ok, so you breathe in the sun, and pull the light down the front of the body, to the root, where it turns and goes up the spine, reaching the top of the head where it exits the body and returns to the sun.

second, once the flow is established, start collecting light from the flow into the root to form the sun *inside you at the base chakra*, the flow upwards is not diminished as it is an infinite source and with the collection the intake is increased as well, the balance here is important, upon the completion of the sun in the root move the attention to the heart center and repeat the process forming a second sun in the heart, then a third time forming the sun in the head.

thirdly, the perspective is made where the lower sun drops below, this being the connection to earth, and the higher sun moves up to be the sun above, which it is in truth, while you stay with the central sun, which is also true, and the most profound, and yet the three are one and you, yet they are a staff whereby earth connects to heaven

fourth, the hands are put together before the heart and the light of that sun is poured into the hands and out the fingers which are pointed beneath the chin aimed to the center of the head, where is seen the pinecone of light, and you see the pine cone within the head, and seen together with the entire self within the pinecone at the same time, holding both, what is within you are within and what you are is also that which is without

with the completion of the prior step, the fifth and last step happens almost automatically, as the within/without finds the balance, the inward downward flow begins to move in a circular fashion, becoming a downward spiral and the movement reaches the root and spins then the other way spiraling back upward, forming the caduces as exits the head, forming a double helix, or torsion field.

I practiced this several times a day for a few years after I was given it in '08. Progressively the steps became more and more habit until I was pretty much doing the whole thing instantly, and now I can't even stop it every time the sun shines on my face.

anyway, this has been a source of great help and healing, and most of all, Fun.

bookmark this one!

[astrid]

yes, its amazing how fast your body learns a new technique,
our lower minds think we have to go through the motions every time,
but in actuality we don't. .. The mind body spirit complex is so infinitely
intelligent that often we only have to do something a few times, and it
becomes a knowing.

Lately i have been working on some very deep inner processing and watching to
see the changes manifesting into the mundane. To my surprise they are already
showing up in small and big ways. I have been freeing up a few routines that i had
developed just to make life a bit more simple, especially in the mornings, but i found that
i was misguided there. That double libran need that i have for things to be comfortable
has to be challenged, as it's within that space of feeling not quite right, that evolution really
rushes ahead. Life is messy, learn to love the mess, is what i get.

In the here and now making bread this morning.
Thought i would use up some organic oats that i have sitting around, so making
oat and linseed bread using my San Fran starter. Just about to shape the loaves.

love to all
Life is just fine, messes and all

[1inMany]

Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

I see what you mean. I was working through my thought process...energy/vibrations/sounds creating thoughts/matter. And it seems like, in my odd mind, the chakras might be the destination of the energy that is being sent into the body.

Of course, I'm over that thought process now...onward and upward, ho!

Much Love,

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Posted by astrid
... it's within that space of feeling not quite right, that evolution really
rushes ahead.

Oh, Astrid, thank you, thank you, thank you!

Much Love,

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Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas
GeorgeAnne Hughes' website: www.thebyteshow.com

Oh, goodie I'll byte....

Much Love,

[1inMany]

Wow. I made a trip outside the Village today. Lots of fireworks. I am tempted...but will share here, where my intentions are not usually (ever) misunderstood.

I've taken and given classes and workshops on many facets of person-to-person and group dynamics. There are lots of things that come into play when human beings, we, communicate with each other...things like different generations, personalities, communication styles, cultural differences, life experiences, religious beliefs. In my opinion and experience, I am responsible for what I project. I am at least partly responsible for how that comes across to people. I could argue I am more responsible than the other party, but I will not here. I am simply saying that if I am cold, and I offend someone, the responsible action is that I go to that individual and ask questions. Sometimes, the other party will not have been offended by me but reacting more to an internal stimulus. Sometimes, I will hear that I have been cold. In the event that I hear I have been cold to several people, I have a choice. I may well choose to continue to communicate in a cold manner, but now I have knowledge of how that effects other people. I may choose to work on my cold communication style and soften it in order to be a more effective communicator. Either choice is fine, really, no judgment here. But there are consequences, positive and negative, to both styles.

Going back into my shell, now.

Have a wonderful evening, Village, full of love and compassion for each other.

Off I go, sprinkling Much Love...




p.s. oh, crap, I'm not saying anyone is cold, I used "cold" because that is probably the only thing I have never been accused of...

oh, and, um, personally, I do so admire the mods here. Agree with 'em, disagree with 'em, but mod is a volunteer position. I was a mod....once....

oh, crap, and I am not kissing up...I don't play games. Well, unless they involve Superman or something....

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Sierra (here)

Good luck WT!

This one sailed straight over my head. Of course I could Gaagle it, but I'm betting there is a cultural reference in either a TV show or some book that I am unfamiliar with.

Dennis

[Sierra]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)

Good luck WT!

This one sailed straight over my head. Of course I could Gaagle it, but I'm betting there is a cultural reference in either a TV show or some book that I am unfamiliar with.

Dennis

That wuz dumb ... (though the line about Chaldean girls made me laugh)
Sorry, no brains left today.
Here is a better one.

[another bob]

Posted by Sierra (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Sierra (here)

Good luck WT!

This one sailed straight over my head. Of course I could Gaagle it, but I'm betting there is a cultural reference in either a TV show or some book that I am unfamiliar with.

Dennis

That wuz dumb ... (though the line about Chaldean girls made me laugh)
Sorry, no brains left today.
Here is a better one.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Had a great Reiki circle tonight! The circle is maturing with the participants moving through the attunements and helping with the proceedings. One person in particular is exceptionally gifted energetically. PL, you know to whom I am referring. Anyhow he related a recent dream that blew me away, and the image he relayed truly resonated with me, and now I thankfully can't get the image out of my mind.

He was visited by what he called a "Guide", and was shown a large bowl with water in it. The guide told him that we humans are the bowl, the vessel, the crucible, and the water is the Source (his words). I felt the whooosh whooosh when he said that and immediately identified the water as the Source, the One, the consciousness. What a great image that I have never held before. The body as the bowl and the water as the soul. And it's funny, too, that the body consists primarily of water!

Cheers all! May you go forth in the limitless love and light of the One true infinite creation!

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Well, I posted the same post twice, so instead of deleting it, I might as well erase it and post something else.

I came across a new daily comic called the Saturday Morning breakfast cereal. Here's the link:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/

If you are a cat person, and I know there are many of you on Avalon, check out today's comic. I am not pasting it because of lewd but funny language.

[1inMany]

Listening to Farrell. Started with 13, Playdo, the one you posted. I'm about halfway through and sync doesn't even come close to describing what I'm feeling here...Holy Sh*t

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Yea, I hear you 1NMany. There are 16 nearly two hour episodes. Each one is thought-provoking, and NO commercials!

Here is an interesting article and video showcasing Bonobos using stone tools with a very high competence. I have to admit, it saddened me to see the Bonobos in their confined enclosures, as they were being studied. This is not in the wild. You have to go to the link to see the video: http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blo...petent-as.html

That makes me think of a favorite song, the Kink's "I'm An Ape Man":

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eEep67akIn4

Also, I really dig Ray's Dobro!

[ulli]

Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
Well, I posted the same post twice, so instead of deleting it, I might as well erase it and post something else.

I came across a new daily comic called the Saturday Morning breakfast cereal. Here's the link:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/

If you are a cat person, and I know there are many of you on Avalon, check out today's comic. I am not pasting it because of lewd but funny language.

...and there I was, thinking " floobicratican" was the 'lewd but funny language' you were referring to, until I saw that today was yesterday...

[ulli]

Posted by Playdo of Ataraxas (here)
Yea, I hear you 1NMany. There are 16 nearly two hour episodes. Each one is thought-provoking, and NO commercials!

Here is an interesting article and video showcasing Bonobos using stone tools with a very high competence. I have to admit, it saddened me to see the Bonobos in their confined enclosures, as they were being studied. This is not in the wild. You have to go to the link to see the video: http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blo...petent-as.html

That makes me think of a favorite song, the Kink's "I'm An Ape Man":

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eEep67akIn4

Also, I really dig Ray's Dobro!

You are right, the Bonobos are not living in the wild.
But if that saddens you, hey...think of how they can now develop
considering that they are protected from such wild(er)ness.

Maybe even become aware of their captors and start pleading with them for their freedom.

Or start fighting amongst each other, with some of them wanting to remove the enclosure
while others insist it stays, since they see it as a protective shield.

And before you know it, some of them will have formed a forum and call it Project Avalon...hehe...

[Swan]

Posted by another bob (here)
Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

Thank you AB!

A couple of years ago I had a session with an energy healer. She was very good, and very expensive.

She checked my chakras, and none of them were functioning properly except my crown chakra which was spinning strongly.

She was quite worried and suggested I regulary " clean " my chakras. Since " Only my spirituality was holding me together".

Well maybe she was right, but my feeling at the time was; everything is as it should be...

A short time after, my spiritual experiences deepened.

[PurpleLama]

The chakras are as unreal, or as real, as the body itself. See? We have various glands throughout the body that are the physical conduits for these energy centers, and the energies are only so strong as these glands are healthy. The point that bob is making, I think, is that when one disassociates from phenomena into the pure awareness of what we really are, which is pure awareness, well, awareness doesn't need for chakras any more than it needs for any other element. If one is working with another person in some mode of healing, knowledge of chakras and the experience of working with them is a basic element of many of these modalities.

[Eram]

Tonight I dreamed that I was a sun and the focus was on shining, emitting light and now I get it.
I have to fully engage in life and be there without holding back and now I feel or see how to do it.

Almost like Ulli said, but with the slightly difference that it is not about 'teaching' per se, but about totally be where I am, without boundaries.

headache and 'bouncing energies' are gone now

[Jenci]

Posted by Swan (here)

Posted by another bob (here)
Contrary to popular notions, I'd submit that the chakras are just energy playgrounds with no inherent significance vis a vis liberation. For example, the soul does not have chakras, nor does any chakra opening contribute one ounce to self-realization (though in some cases such openings may be an after-effect). Fundamentally, chakras are body phenomena, but we are not the body. In fact, attachment to chaka manipulation is a hindrance to awakening, imo.

Thank you AB!

A couple of years ago I had a session with an energy healer. She was very good, and very expensive.

She checked my chakras, and none of them were functioning properly except my crown chakra which was spinning strongly.

She was quite worried and suggested I regulary " clean " my chakras. Since " Only my spirituality was holding me together".

Well maybe she was right, but my feeling at the time was; everything is as it should be...

A short time after, my spiritual experiences deepened.

Prior to my awakening I had no knowledge of chakras and it has not been something I have felt any strong inclination to explore, so for me they have played no significance in this process.


I got this link the other day on chakras by someone offering a different perspective than the norm on chakras

http://www.fw-indigo-adults.com/page...ndChakras.html



Jeanette

[ulli]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
Tonight I dreamed that I was a sun and the focus was on shining, emitting light and now I get it.
I have to fully engage in life and be there without holding back and now I feel or see how to do it.

Almost like Ulli said, but with the slightly difference that it is not about 'teaching' per se, but about totally be where I am, without boundaries.

headache and 'bouncing energies' are gone now

This is the prayer I taught my son to say every morning and night.

Oh God, guide me and protect me.
Illumine the lamp of my heart
And make of me a brilliant star.
Thou are the mighty and the powerful.


And congratulations on getting such great guidance via a dream.
How cool is that?