Negative consequences of internet porn.

[kingmonkey]

I recently discovered this video.

Internet porn with the addition of highspeed internet has become a huge phenomenon in the lives of many people. Im no prude but people are waking up to the fact that there are severe consequences to this form of addiction.

The guy in the ted talk mentions the role that porn is playing in peoples lives and subsequently how a spontanous group of people are taking part in a self experiment of abstaining from porn with some astonishing results. Such results include reductions in social anxiety, depression and increases in confidence and "manliness" or overall productivity.

Pass this on to anyone who might benefit.

There is a site devoted to porn addiction called http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vTD_itXrR6E

[wynderer]

i have seen that the porn addiction is one of the big traps laid in the astral planes to capture/'harvest' souls during the mass deaths ahead

also -- from personal experience -- the more porn a man watches, the worse he is in bed

[christian]

What addiction is not detrimental?

But attachement works both ways: "I need porn" or "I hate porn" are polar opposites and thus in a way equal. I find the underlying issue here is people being insecure with their sexuality. If they weren't insecure in that regard, there could be porn around them all day, they wouldn't be interested and it wouldn't really make a difference for them. They might just have a detached curiosity, as with everything else in this wondrous world.

Anyways, people who are insecure with their sexuality really profit from not being exposed to porn of course, in the same way that people behave more confident etc. when they got rid of any addiction. That's the kind of people who are adressed in this video, for them this video is surely helpful and makes good points. Not really surprising points though, or what?

[wynderer]

a kind & compassionate post from Christian as always -- i know how fragile the 'male ego' is, in re sexual insecurity -- sometimes i just have to call it like i see it

re the sexual insecurity -- perhaps more a sexual self-image insecurity

years ago, in a John Holt publication, i read an article by a woman who had been a Peace Corps volunteer in a mountain village in Nepal, both before & after TV was brought in

before TV, young men & women flirting w/each other etc as they do -- the young women were happy & secure & comfortable w/themselves & their bodies, whatever their shape & size

after TV was brought in -- it didn't take long before the young women began to feel their bodies were not OK as they were

[spiritguide]

Why are aboriginies made to dress when they are comfortable with the clothes the creator gave them? Another dualistic dialog going in circles. Sex as a noun or a verb? We all have one male or female. Without it we would not be! Just more programming for us to be ashamed of ourselves for no good reason. Isn't that what religion tells us, that we are all sinners. lol My Creator does not make mistakes and he is proud of his work especially humans. He made them out of love! IMHO

[bogeyman]

Some of the porn sites are know to be a cover for terrorist activities...so it has been claimed. Something to do with hiding financial transactions to fund activities of this nature.

[Mulder]

Posted by kingmonkey (here)
I recently discovered this video.

Internet porn with the addition of highspeed internet has become a huge phenomenon in the lives of many people. Im no prude but people are waking up to the fact that there are severe consequences to this form of addiction.

The guy in the ted talk mentions the role that porn is playing in peoples lives and subsequently how a spontanous group of people are taking part in a self experiment of abstaining from porn with some astonishing results. Such results include reductions in social anxiety, depression and increases in confidence and "manliness" or overall productivity.

Pass this on to anyone who might benefit.

I disagree that everyone will have positive benefits by simply not watching new porn. Also, remember when there was no "sex-info" available - how people were confused about sex, had no info about STDs & felt guilty. Look at Alfred Kinsey's repressed youth for example. I think sex is a normal part of life & I'd rather watch porn than mainstream-media (although they are almost the same).

[sandy]

What a great talk and something that all young and old people should listen too as the information seems valuable in this day and age

[enfoldedblue]

For me the problem with porn is that it's vibration is soooooo low. Often the people acting in them are being exploited and abused, they are not participating in the film as a celebration of their sexuality, but because they 'have' to. Sure there may be some who love what they do, but I don't think these numbers are high, I think many of the actors are wounded at some level. One girl I know of went to LA to make it in hollywood, and ended up having to do a porno in order to get the money to fly home (as her dreams of stardom hadn't panned out). SHe was told that she had to perform without a condom and if she wouldn't do it someone else would. She desperately needed the money and so she did it. She said she lived her worst nightmare and then a couple of weeks later she found out she had AIDS. The people who make these films are generally not nice people and don't give a sh#t about anyone.

I personally am not offended by sexuality in the least, it is the exploitation I have trouble with. If an empowered person wanted to make a sex film and they were calling the shots on their terms, I think it could be possible to create an incredibly erotic, intriguing piece of work, that actually worked to raise one's frequency rather than lower it (as most porns do).

[bluestflame]

it's more about the energies conveyed transmitted , the visual imagery a catalyst , a focal point , a connection made through the etheric where the energies hidden do thier work ,

the importance of being conscious of the energies , of yours and thiers and the blending of the two

and whatever else is piggybacking it

[ThePythonicCow]

Someone I've not listened to before, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and war correspondent Chris Hedges, author of Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle, has a pungent description of the porn industry from 08:50 to 11:20 of this 27:02 long interview: Chris Hedges on 'Empire of Illusion' and a Vignette of The Fall of Berlin 1945.

[muxfolder]

Anyone seen Louis Theroux's documents about porn? It really shows the cruel reality about the porn industry. I'll link them, but I have to warn they're quite graphical here and there. Do not watch if these offend you some way.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BOgJ2ksRvyw

Looks like the other vid was removed, but you can still find it here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xro...tars_lifestyle

[CdnSirian]

Posted by enfoldedblue (here)
For me the problem with porn is that it's vibration is soooooo low. Often the people acting in them are being exploited and abused, they are not participating in the film as a celebration of their sexuality, but because they 'have' to. Sure there may be some who love what they do, but I don't think these numbers are high, I think many of the actors are wounded at some level. One girl I know of went to LA to make it in hollywood, and ended up having to do a porno in order to get the money to fly home (as her dreams of stardom hadn't panned out). SHe was told that she had to perform without a condom and if she wouldn't do it someone else would. She desperately needed the money and so she did it. She said she lived her worst nightmare and then a couple of weeks later she found out she had AIDS. The people who make these films are generally not nice people and don't give a sh#t about anyone.

I personally am not offended by sexuality in the least, it is the exploitation I have trouble with. If an empowered person wanted to make a sex film and they were calling the shots on their terms, I think it could be possible to create an incredibly erotic, intriguing piece of work, that actually worked to raise one's frequency rather than lower it (as most porns do).

Working in the healthcare industry I have met porn actors. Nobodies and world stars. None of them have a glimmer of life's joy, and they show up with injuries. Porn is addictive, sex sells, etc., etc.. It is mostly related to drug addiction and childhood abuse. The workers are over-worked and underpaid, no union, no health insurance.

Even hamburger flippers get health insurance. Let's get real.

[music]

Porn as it stands in the age of the internet is NWO brainwashing and damage propogation. NWO agenda item: breakdown the family unit through fostering the inability in people to form meaningful relationships. I have no problem with porn (have watched my fair share in the past) and have sexual energy and a sex life that would make many blush, but would say this to those who are addicted to porn: be aware that the blankness and bleakness of porn is damaging you, and rendering you unfit for normal human relationships. This is it's purpose. As far as sex goes, the NWO is interested in the normailsation of child sex, the moving of focus during sex from the generation of magic to empty physical gratification, destruction of the family unit, and disabling of the sacral chakra (which is needed in tandem with the throat chakra to access higher dimensional consciousness - the throat chakra is disabled or impacted by A = 440 Hz music). There is nothing wrong with exploring the darker side of our natures sexually, but porn is not unmasking by exploration, it is masking by exploitation.

[Anchor]

(I have not watched the TED talk in the OP yet, but I will when I can)

There must be some kind of scale.

Here is a hypothetical scale I have mulled over in considering this phenomenon of "internet" porn:

1) Avoid porn
2) See porn, avoid/turn off
3) See porn, watch ( scale goes from raised eyebrows, lets just see what this is... my word is that even possible! ----> all the way up to habitually watch)
4) Seek porn, watch
5) Did (4), got bored, seek different varieties of porn

In terms of escalation there is an entire spectrum available from basic erotica, to acts which are less about erotica and more about pushing the boundaries of human tolerance. Less about sex and more about sensations, domination, submission and control. Use of animals at the far extreme end - and to top it all off pedophilia.

For most men, and judging by comments I have read on sites like reddit and youtube - the majority of porn watching ends up in some form of masturbation. A whole new language and slang has evolved which I suppose helps people to feel like its normal. I even see the word porn used as a verb! Along with a new verb "fap".

I'm 48. I was on the BBS scene before there was an internet, and on the internet right from the start, before there was even a world wide web - and as far as pornography goes - there is nothing new under the sun; just more of it. What seems to have changed is the social acceptance. A whole generation of adolescent males (and increasingly it seems females) regard internet sex as just a thing. In case you were wondering where I am on the scale... I have been to the very depths and back; Porn for me isn't porn anymore - its human distortion. I like art more, and some art is erotic. I like beauty and I have seen porn that is beautiful.

I remember at school - I went to a boys school - there was a porn trade. The only difference was that it was printed media, and still images not moving images.

Another recent factor is the prevalence of camera's in phones and other devices and the willingness of people to post pictures on the internet - of themselves or other people doing non-porn related stuff, exhibitionist, or sexy.

The VHS camera started it, cheap Video cameras and cameras in phones has taken everything to a new level

The internet is a classic double edged sword.

[kingmonkey]

Posted by christian (here)
What addiction is not detrimental?

But attachement works both ways: "I need porn" or "I hate porn" are polar opposites and thus in a way equal. I find the underlying issue here is people being insecure with their sexuality. If they weren't insecure in that regard, there could be porn around them all day, they wouldn't be interested and it wouldn't really make a difference for them. They might just have a detached curiosity, as with everything else in this wondrous world.

Anyways, people who are insecure with their sexuality really profit from not being exposed to porn of course, in the same way that people behave more confident etc. when they got rid of any addiction. That's the kind of people who are adressed in this video, for them this video is surely helpful and makes good points. Not really surprising points though, or what?

Im not sure i fully agree with the assertion it comes down to insecurity with ones sexuality. This might be partially true but in many of the forums dealing with this issue porn addicts come from all walks of life and at all stages in their lives and many are in full time sexual relationships and or married. The addiction can afflict anyone at anytime and like most addictions is self perpetuating. The addiction more often than not is primarily a method od hijacking the brains pleasure seeking and reward mechanism. To place the cause of the addiction is like saying that an alcoholic is insecure around the physical act of drinking. I see what you are saying but it is only partially true.

Now id just like to be clear. Any of my discussion relating to porn is completly devoid of any moral judgment. Im all for self exploration and experimentation without moral jostling. Now posted the above video mainly because i was interested in it and also it is highlighting some recent observations. Without going to details, it has been a problem in my own life and as i am discovering many others too.
-unlimited internet porn in the highspeed era marks a radical juncture from more traditional types of porn
-hundreds of thousands of young people now live in an era where they cannot remember pre porn days
-the novelty seeking aspect of the dopamine system makes internet porn a particularly insidious addiction. its practically impossible to reach a satiation point
-the over reliance on porn and masturbation are having profound effects on the lives of many people
- this short cicuiting of the pleasure response is contributing to growing numbers of young people experiencing erectile dysfunction.

I could go on.

What is interesting is that almost spontaneously a growing group of people are forming their own online communities and voluntarily abstaining from porn and masturbation. These groups are devoid of anytype of quasi religious philosophy or twelve step doctrines. One such group is the so called "NO FAP" movement on reddit. As the video above suggests these self groups are reporting tangible benefits of abstaining and are regaining self respect. One notable benefit seems to be the embodiment of more masculine qualities. Reading some of the benefits makes it sound like some kind of infomertial. One is waiting to be told what the product is.

On a side note for those who like to get all spiritual about things. Many spiritual traditions and martial arts recommend the preservation of ones "life force" .

Part one of your brain on porn video

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TKDFsLi2oBk

[apokalypse]

i don't find porn are negative but with current technologies are the most negative which they do more harm than good..remember back in the days so much fun without internet or computers, people are more connected and kids playing with their neighbor especially in Asian countries.

looking at my little cousin who in year 1-3 already started using computers doing nothing but playing games, i ask them how did the kid know these website and they said the schools gave them...i said to the parents that these kids don't need computers and they said it's a demand must have for school in 21st century. I know these parents love their kids but the school do more damage than good.

which one more negative reading Mainstream News or Porn? researching on Economics topics or order Iphone 5 while there's already discussion on Iphone 6...nothing but to support and to keep the system going. for us in here Non-Mainstream considered Mainstream info load of garbage but for the sheep it is not and they still accepted it. .

[wynderer]

Zsa Zsa Gabor said , 'Men love w/their eyes; women love w/their ears' -- it's natural for men to look at & admire women, & a lot of women enjoy the attention & appreciation

from Kingmonkey's post #16:
'-the novelty seeking aspect of the dopamine system makes internet porn a particularly insidious addiction. its practically impossible to reach a satiation point'

i had a friend some yrs ago who had realized that his fondness for porn was becoming a very unhealthy addiction -- i gathered from him that porn is a rabbit hole that leads one to dark places --snuff films w/children, for instance

ending up -- the ultimate porn- w/some of the images of ritual sacrifices posted on Houman's archon thread

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Humans tend to over emphasise evolution

[christian]

Posted by kingmonkey (here)

Posted by christian (here)
I find the underlying issue here is people being insecure with their sexuality.

Im not sure i fully agree with the assertion it comes down to insecurity with ones sexuality. This might be partially true but in many of the forums dealing with this issue porn addicts come from all walks of life and at all stages in their lives and many are in full time sexual relationships and or married. The addiction can afflict anyone at anytime and like most addictions is self perpetuating.

I get your drift. What I mean by "insecure with their sexuality" is 'not willing/able to deal with one's sexual energy in a balanced and healthy way'. That can of course apply to everyone. In fact, it does apply to most people, when I see how most people behave towards sex in general, but that's another topic. Not that most are addicted to porn, but most seem to pay very little attention to the inner alchemical processes during sex and rather behave like moths burning themselves at a lamp time and again, 'satifisfying' an urge but not dealing with the root issue.