Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[observer]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Houman (here)

How many of you want to go beyond discussions and take the archonic/demonic forces and their minions "head on"?

Hi Houman, if what you're proposing is based upon anything besides love and compassion, I would be extremely leary.

I'm just sayin...

Cheers,
Fred

I hear what you are saying, Fred, but....

To Houman:

The problem here is, there are so many who are hypnotized into believing the Mass of Humanity can simply 'think' (or in this case, 'not think') this Abject Evil away. I have been pointing-out this telepathically implanted message goes all the way back to the Dawn of Man, and that there has never been - in all of recorded history - a 'Bright New Day' for the Mass of Humanity.

Many of the members are of the mindset that we create our own realities, and that by placing a focus on this type of horror, we allow it to grow.

This mindset is perfectly workable anywhere, except within this particular reality.

Thinking only of Love is a wonderful thing for one's personal reality creations.

Exposing this Abject Evil to the Masses is the only way to change the Mass Reality.

[Cristian]

Posted by Houman (here)
it involves finding these missing people/children (those that are still alive, some are kept alive until specific ritual sacrifice dates) and blowing the whole thing out to the open...

How do you think we can find this missing people/children?

If we did find them how do you avoid another cover -up?

How do you link the persons involved in such activities with demonic entities in such way that even avreage Joe understands an awakes to the big picture?

[Sierra]

Houman,

If one million people, a CD of photographic evidence sent to multiple countries made no difference, except to put the whistle blower in jail as a "rapist" ... It is obvious the establishment (the cops, the courts, the psychiatrists, the doctors, the media, oh and the damned to hell church/New Age establishments/Amusement Parks ... ) is here to defend the pedophiles.

The only thing I can think of that might make a difference, is a mass exposure of the photographs, to teach the public this. is. real.

Can't do it on a website, you'd be arrested and put in jail as a pedophile.

I also wonder, if it is wise to talk about this on a public forum, telegraphing that some action might be taken in the near future.

Do you remember the McMartin case in California awhile ago? Some people went back to explore the grounds of the McMartin Day Care Center, and found the underground tunnels and rooms described by the children. Of course not. one. word. of this discovery hit the main stream media.

It is said, "The truth will set you free." Obviously the truth is so large, so entrenched, that people are perfectly comfortable being interviewed protesting their innocence, after they are exposed as pedophiles. They have literally, no shame.

I do think photographs, plastered in every church, school, hospital, court, news station, public park, amusement parks, department store bathroom, telephone pole in every shopping district, under every parked car's windshield wiper might be the only way to educate the public ... and don't. get. caught. telling. the. truth. because. this. will. stir. rage. and. indignation. on the part of the ignorant. It has to be done but the public will go through the stages of denial, rage, grief, acceptance.

I have no answers.

Sierra

[Eram]

I have often asked myself the question.... What does Houman want with this thread?
Where is this leading to?

So this is it isn't it?
You want to create a task force to go after the missing children and expose the networks.

Bring light to the darkest of darkness.

Living in Belgium, I did some research to the network of child abuse/abductions/sacrifice here and it is overwhelming how deep it goes in this country.
Roots go all the way up to the pacts that where forged in the middle ages with families of nobility and further.
Heavy weight powers are involved.

It's an honest judgement when I say I'm not cut from the right wood for this sort of job.

I wish for these networks to be exposed and that people find the courage to stand up to their fears, the endurance to see it through and enlightenment to see the truth to set them free.

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by Sierra (here)
It is my firm belief, no matter what battle we lose, we always win the war. Good prevails. Always. Growth prevails. Always. As I get older, the long view becomes more and more real to me.

I also agree that the Universe is on a critical path to huge changes. We are a part and parcel of that change. We choose what we choose. There is enough information out there to realize we are in the time of choice, as described by a Hopi Prophecy. All of us can choose whatever direction we want to go, and it adamantly, vehemently, critically, absolutely does not have to be the direction we have gone our whole lives ... if that is our choice.

I'd really like to know, I'd really like it if Daughter of Time, JustOneMan, any milab, any abductee could describe what helped them process their experience. How long did it take? Is there still more stuff to process? Does the self ever really become clear what happened? Is one still under control at times? I apologize if this has already been discussed, but this sort of info can bear repeating, yes?

Thanks, Sierra

Hello Sierra,

I've been away from this thread and rarely checked the forum in the past two weeks because I was on a work contract which took all my focus, attention, energy and creativity and I'm now totally exhausted and need to recover. So I'm catching up on reading the posts on this thread and I still have far to go and there's much I'd like to comment on as far as some of the posts I've read and plan to do so in the coming days. I've just read your post and wanted to reply and I hope that my reply is not too convoluted since I'm so tired.

Being away from this thread and working on a creative project has offered me a much needed change but has also brought further awareness of how painfully unaware most people are out there. And these are kind, good hearted, respectful, intelligent, highly creative people, yet, their reality is mostly the only reality they know. They are aware that the reality of much of the planet is far more painful than ours since we have decent food to eat, roofs over our heads, literacy, and willingness to learn. Unfortunately, I became disappointedly aware of the belief systems that these people are governed by which I have learned to let go of as I begin my awakening process. I thought I'd begun my awakening process a long time ago but it was all an illusion. Realizing that I am no longer affected by these belief systems that rule most poeple I come in contact with, helps me realize that I am continuously processing all that has happened in my life. But that is it, I am still in the process of processing, connecting the dots and realizing, much to my dismay, that the veil of deception clouded my view for so many years, and now that it's being lifted, I seem to go from a state of elation in knowing that I am potentially capable of changing my reality, to a state of despair in not knowing how to change the reality of others and of the planet in general.

I still have to recover many of my memories, that is, the subconscious ones, because the conscious ones are very clear. I've been trying to recover memories of the original cause of this chaos plaguing humanity, and specifically, myself and what in me caused me to become a target, but have not, as of yet, been successful at that. But I have glimpses, and that is promising.

What has helped me in this process is the knowledge that although they have taken so much from me, they cannot take my soul. My soul is mine. It belongs to me. No one can have it against my permission. There is nothing they can do to take it from me. They can implant my body. They can program my mind. But they cannot take my soul where my true essence resides. They cannot take my love nor my humanity. I am becoming very aware of all the traps. This gives me strength and some degree of clarity, but I still have much work to do.

There is more I'd like to say on this but I'll do so after I regain some energy which is now sorely lacking since I'm afraid I would just blabber on and confuse the issues.

With love,

Daughter of Time

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
I have often asked myself the question.... What does Houman want with this thread?
Where is this leading to?

So this is it isn't it?
You want to create a task force to go after the missing children and expose the networks.

Bring light to the darkest of darkness.

Living in Belgium, I did some research to the network of child abuse/abductions/sacrifice here and it is overwhelming how deep it goes in this country.
Roots go all the way up to the pacts that where forged in the middle ages with families of nobility and further.
Heavy weight powers are involved.

It's an honest judgement when I say I'm not cut from the right wood for this sort of job.

I wish for these networks to be exposed and that people find the courage to stand up to their fears, the endurance to see it through and enlightenment to see the truth to set them free.

I cannot speak for Houman as to why he started this thread and what he wishes to accomplish, but I am appreciative that he is exposing what he has found. Awareness is the first step in finding a solution. I do not have the psychic strength to fight the darkest of darkness at this particular point in my life, but I wish I did. If the knowledge is spread, warriors will come forth.

And as far as sacrifices taking place in Belgium goes, well, these sacrifices take place everywhere. I don't think there are any exceptions on this planet. A few weeks ago, in one of my astral travel experiences, I went from one sacrificial site to another in a matter of minutes. Everyone of the victims was a very attractive young woman and they all had their living, beating hearts torn out of their chests. I very clearly noticed that they were all of different racial backgrounds. First I witnessed a blonde, Nordic type, then it was an Asian young woman, then an African one, then a Mediterranean looking one. I couldn't take anymore and forced myself back into my body. Needless to say, it was a difficult night for me, but not as difficult as it would have been a year ago. This is not to say that I'm becoming immune to the atrocities, but that they have become a part of a reality which goes far beyond horror movies and literature. It is real!

[Beren]

What has helped me in this process is the knowledge that although they have taken so much from me, they cannot take my soul. My soul is mine. It belongs to me. No one can have it against my permission. There is nothing they can do to take it from me. They can implant my body. They can program my mind. But they cannot take my soul where my true essence resides. They cannot take my love nor my humanity. I am becoming very aware of all the traps. This gives me strength and some degree of clarity, but I still have much work to do.

There is more I'd like to say on this but I'll do so after I regain some energy which is now sorely lacking since I'm afraid I would just blabber on and confuse the issues.

With love,

Daughter of Time

Here and now I want to share yesterday`s experience.
It may give you answers (you-I mean all).

I ventured out with my consciousness and all of a sudden I saw triple rainbow -the huge ones over the mountain range like Alps or Himalayas.
It was like a portal through I went.

Here and there I wandered and all of a sudden there was this little girl with strange eyes and crystallized dust or greenish gems on her face(right side of the face underneath the eye)...
I said :"Who are you?"
Reply was in child`s voice:"I want to go with you sir"(like a child would say to an adult...)
"Where?"
"I want to suck your soul!"

After this sentence from her she turned into a vampire with gross face and tried to assault me.
I stood unmoved and smoothly stated:" I cannot give you my soul BUT I will give you Christ`s light to suck!"
I stood there and called my innermost light to shine upon her and in the same time I called Christ to shine upon this vampire and to return her to her essence before she became a vampire- to burn this vampire illusion mask off from her soul.

She writhed in pain.

Her face screamed ,shape changed and fangs grew big until they were crushed into dust.
Few seconds more all the way I called the light upon her she writhed silently and disappeared into void or nothingness.

I felt energy and goosebumps all over my physical body but there I felt nothing close to fear.
I felt like I called the light of Christ to heal her even by burning the Vampire template that she became.

I felt that all I did was to connect with Christ and the light flowed instantaneously.
I thank Christ for aid for in this moment I felt how he and God feels when healing with light those poor tortured souls...
They writhe and scream but I feel that in their core they are relieved that help came and that this template that consumed them was and is now gone, burned by light.
The core remained and now pure -it returned to God-Creator-Love.


Bless you all folks!

Beren

[donk]

So what practical action is there to take? Are you trying to set up a task force--as suggested and I suspected all along was logical conclusion to all the sacrifice issues? Obviously we have remote viewers ready to do recon, and people wanting to help?

I would do so, though would need to be trained as I have no practical skills or knowledge in dealing with this type of thing. Also I am seriously invested in responsibilities I have taken on for others here in the 3d mundane world, which brings me to another practical issue I've been working toward achieving:

I have a girlfriend that exhibits all of the signs of being a slave to vampiric forces. I revisited the Steve Richards holo kinetic interview, which I loved enough before to look for someone the first time I came across it months ago, but ran into the same problem I did before: I can't myself or find someone able to "bend space-time to fix the past, present, and future", or move lei lines. I suspect if I practiced enough I could talk to "true spirits", but I don't have luxury of being able to take the course.

If I could clear the demons coming into my individual life, I'd gladly help in the grand battle for tortured souls. But until then, I'm busy winging it at trying to battle demons without damaging their victims, and am not able to do it quite yet. Any pointers or help would be appreciated. I'd definitely take any demon liberating skills into the depths of any hell, I feel I have lost all fear and don't have anything to lose but my loved ones souls, which are being violated anyway whether I participate or not.

She's trying right now to tell me I'm the demon, it's my fault, I can't beat them I just need to leave it alone, as if that would make them stop. I'll be battling tonight, apparently--at least trying to get her self to understand the pandora's box concept...if they let me talk to her at all. She's convinced this info is the cause, and under a spell thats convincing her that everything would have been (& was) fine until I started digging.

****, if I can't convince her otherwise, I got an easy out...me and the boys don't need this ****. But we love her and her soul is worth the fight, so anyone feel like sending love & light this way, I'd appreciate it...

[Cristian]

Hey guys,


I admit i was contemplating a different solution.

At the very core it has to do with what we are compared to what they are. We are children of the Universe, born from the ocean of nothingness . We understand our connection with each other and the ilusion of individuality.
So were they , until they made the choice to deny their true nature. Just like drops of water from waves smashing against piers , they refuse to fall back into the Ocean.



They said...we are not the Ocean, we are drops of water. And the Ocean always allowed free will to his drops.

But in denying their connection and cutting the link with the Ocean, they slowly turned into what they are now. With no energy coming from the Ocean, they became lost and empty inside.
The solution they came up with was to prey and steal energy from other beings that were connected to the Ocean.
So they turned Earth and other Planets into their farms.

Now, the differences between us and them are the key, if we want to find a solution to our current situation.
It has to do with the energy we have, and they dont. With the strenght we have being connected to the Ocean.
I had many encounters with them, mostly in astral dimension but also in this reality.
I found that they basically lack the power to create, have no imagination, and rely heavily on black magic , fear , and a very good understanding of how this dimensions are built.

For us humans is easy to slaughter a bull, in a controled enviroment. But if we take on a bull in the open field , with our bare hands, well i dont think we stand a chance.
Same goes for them and us. Meet them in the astral, with a clear head of who you are, and what you can do there , and what they cannot do, and you will see them running for cover.
Of course is not that simple , and they do have a bag of evil, disgusting tricks. But the overall principle is valid.


What Houman is proposing is in my opinion playing in their controlled enviroment. They have the politicians, the judges, most if not all the press, and also have enslaved the minds of majority not to be interested in topics like this.

How about we formulate a strategy for an "astral cleanup" where we do have the upper hand, followed maybe by an astral blocade that will prevent them from accesing this reality.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Chris82 (here)
until they made the choice to deny their true nature. Just like drops of water from waves smashing against piers , they refuse to fall back into the Ocean.

They said...we are not the Ocean, we are drops of water. And the Ocean always allowed free will to his drops.

But in denying their connection and cutting the link with the Ocean, they slowly turned into what they are now. With no energy coming from the Ocean, they became lost and empty inside.
The solution they came up with was to prey and steal energy from other beings that were connected to the Ocean.
So they turned Earth and other Planets into their farms.

What If: They despise themselves for what they have become.

What If: Deep down, they would rather be able to die, than to continue as they are.

What If: They hopelessly dream of a way out, but know of course that there isn't one. The ocean has moved on without them, and they are on their own.

What If: They were approached one day, and gently told: "You don't have to do this any longer if you don't want to, the ocean is still waiting. I see you're tired, why don't you take my hand, and come with me".

[modwiz]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Chris82 (here)
until they made the choice to deny their true nature. Just like drops of water from waves smashing against piers , they refuse to fall back into the Ocean.

They said...we are not the Ocean, we are drops of water. And the Ocean always allowed free will to his drops.

But in denying their connection and cutting the link with the Ocean, they slowly turned into what they are now. With no energy coming from the Ocean, they became lost and empty inside.
The solution they came up with was to prey and steal energy from other beings that were connected to the Ocean.
So they turned Earth and other Planets into their farms.

What If: They were approached one day, and gently told: "You don't have to do this any longer if you don't want to, the ocean is still waiting. I see you're tired, why don't you take my hand, and come with me".

What if they replied, "Pull my finger."

[ulli]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Chris82 (here)
until they made the choice to deny their true nature. Just like drops of water from waves smashing against piers , they refuse to fall back into the Ocean.

They said...we are not the Ocean, we are drops of water. And the Ocean always allowed free will to his drops.

But in denying their connection and cutting the link with the Ocean, they slowly turned into what they are now. With no energy coming from the Ocean, they became lost and empty inside.
The solution they came up with was to prey and steal energy from other beings that were connected to the Ocean.
So they turned Earth and other Planets into their farms.

What If: They were approached one day, and gently told: "You don't have to do this any longer if you don't want to, the ocean is still waiting. I see you're tired, why don't you take my hand, and come with me".

What if they replied, "Pull my finger."

Then you know them for what they really are....
no longer even separate drops of ocean water,
but scum on the ocean's shore.

[ulli]

Posted by donk (here)
So what practical action is there to take? Are you trying to set up a task force--as suggested and I suspected all along was logical conclusion to all the sacrifice issues? Obviously we have remote viewers ready to do recon, and people wanting to help?

I would do so, though would need to be trained as I have no practical skills or knowledge in dealing with this type of thing. Also I am seriously invested in responsibilities I have taken on for others here in the 3d mundane world, which brings me to another practical issue I've been working toward achieving:

I have a girlfriend that exhibits all of the signs of being a slave to vampiric forces. I revisited the Steve Richards holo kinetic interview, which I loved enough before to look for someone the first time I came across it months ago, but ran into the same problem I did before: I can't myself or find someone able to "bend space-time to fix the past, present, and future", or move lei lines. I suspect if I practiced enough I could talk to "true spirits", but I don't have luxury of being able to take the course.

If I could clear the demons coming into my individual life, I'd gladly help in the grand battle for tortured souls. But until then, I'm busy winging it at trying to battle demons without damaging their victims, and am not able to do it quite yet. Any pointers or help would be appreciated. I'd definitely take any demon liberating skills into the depths of any hell, I feel I have lost all fear and don't have anything to lose but my loved ones souls, which are being violated anyway whether I participate or not.

She's trying right now to tell me I'm the demon, it's my fault, I can't beat them I just need to leave it alone, as if that would make them stop. I'll be battling tonight, apparently--at least trying to get her self to understand the pandora's box concept...if they let me talk to her at all. She's convinced this info is the cause, and under a spell thats convincing her that everything would have been (& was) fine until I started digging.

****, if I can't convince her otherwise, I got an easy out...me and the boys don't need this ****. But we love her and her soul is worth the fight, so anyone feel like sending love & light this way, I'd appreciate it...

I recommend, at least as an experiment, to try and test the saying "where focus goes, energy flows"
And see if shifting the focus to the possibility that there might also exist equally powerful beings that represent the principle of goodness and nurturing.....
And turn in that direction...
What do you have to lose?

[Eram]

Posted by ulli (here)
I recommend, at least as an experiment, to try and test the saying "where focus goes, energy flows"
And see if shifting the focus to the possibility that there might also exist equally powerful beings that represent the principle of goodness and nurturing.....
And turn in that direction...
What do you have to lose?

Sounds like the best advice that I've read here in a while

Thanks Ulli!

[donk]

I have been going in that direction, trying to get her to ask for help. Also, to understand her power--she is definitely preventing things from hurting me that have expressed that desire. Has mentioned on occasion that she is protecting me. I saw for myself when they manifested within her, that they could not keep it up long, and on some level she was holding them back.

And right after I posted, we had been avoiding each other so as not to fight--she was so angry, betrayed, hurt, and hating me for spending my time looking into the stuff, she could obviously feel that was what I was doing, and it aggravated the situation. So I stopped, for the most part (earlier in the day), only to peek in to see any responses to Houman's suggestion, and decided to bang out the above post. Then I went outside, and tried to "incarnate my higher self within me", whatever that may mean.

When I did so, I found myself looking for light--as in promising myself (my higher self) if he/it would incarnate I would live up to my end of what I said here...I would spend as much energy as possible and use any gifts or assistance provided to me to bring light to the darkness, that I wouldn't quit trying to find information (light) to stop the enslavement...just light light light, love love love.

When I went inside, I found her asleep, seemingly peaceful, waaaaay early than she would have...which was nice.

Anyway, I think there is fine a line of where you need to walk. I am definitely on board with the focus of energy, particularly my intent. I have become keenly aware of my own power in that sense.

But there is also the denial trap to avoid, and the fact that whatever the eff these things are, they are hiding themselves, and deceiving--often in directions seemingly "good". I have grown to embrace the idea that the more you know (light you have) on a situation, the more effectively you can deal with it. Learning about this sh!t was (seemingly) just an interest for me, something that happened to other people. Now that it is up in my face--I have to reconsider all the ideas and experiences I have consumed, and the ones that seem to relate to mine aren't pretty.

But thanks so much for the re-focus of my mindset, I needed it. Funny how I came to it myself last night, though may have not even remembered had you not posted--so many many thank yous!! It is apparent that I have "given" her enough info (ha--she's the one going through it), that she has a good enough idea of the basics, the rest of the negative sh!t can be filled in with her own experiences I guess--and I'll get to work on figuring the "incarnating the higher self" aspect, as well as maybe getting assistance from the light side that we can trust.

It's just kinda concerning when she starts them over me--saying I'm the demon, blaming me for them attacking her (more), making deals--she told them we would stay in the house, which if is not the primary source of the biggest of the problems, is at least the fuel for it--but she said we'd stay if they make it affordable--the landlord called from overseas night before last, asking us to call at 2:30am our time--which she had awoke and been alert at 2...not sure if she was compelled to call or not--she said to me that the idea of calling then is crazy--though I don't see it as any crazier than anything else. Anyway, she turns on me when they attack hard, which they do whenever I am researching, in particular reading this thread. It is ****ing crazy the power we give it.

[Christine]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Houman (here)

How many of you want to go beyond discussions and take the archonic/demonic forces and their minions "head on"?

Hi Houman, if what you're proposing is based upon anything besides love and compassion, I would be extremely leary.

I'm just sayin...

Cheers,
Fred

All true work and revelation is an act of love and illumination. We must not be afraid to look into the darkest corners and shine the Light there. Takes courage and immense love. Thanks Fred, we must always maintain this consciousness - the forces of dark wish us to fall into their game and trap.

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
On the "solutions" thread...

How many of you want to go beyond discussions and take the archontic/demonic forces and their minions "head on"?

There is a way to do that... it would put your life (and possibly your sanity) in jeopardy but if a core of people is serious enough about taking that on I will post a way here (again it is not without risk).
It involves work, investigation, communication and going into areas where you would probably not want to go. You would also need to have a robust psyche and a functional "spiritual immune system".

Houman

Hi Houman,

What do you envision when you say that (take the archontic/demonic forces and their minions "head on)?
What would be the objective?
To ban these forces from the face of the earth?

It involves missing children/people and human trafficking...
[Mod-note: beware - the next four images are graphic and upsetting. -Paul.]
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...9ll3o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw...dbf0o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...qz9po1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo...xp2no1_500.jpg

this is the one "thing" that they don't want to see exposed because it is a Pandora's box, if you open it everything comes out, from satanic ritual, MK Ultra to human processing facilities...
it involves finding these missing people/children (those that are still alive, some are kept alive until specific ritual sacrifice dates) and blowing the whole thing out to the open...

as I said there is some risk involved, if you are not already familiar with it, watch these and you will understand (people in very places have been working very hard to keep that thing "shut" and you will getting in their ways... when that thing "opened" a bit in Belgium it lead to demonstrations with more than 1 million people in the streets... Marcel Vervloesem was framed and jailed for trying to open that box (he is still in jail))

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...phile-Networks
in 5 parts (elite pedophile networks in 5 parts with English subtitles)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cB18plt2i6U
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wydJ0xwe_K4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M_2JmGjPffg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T18O0G5RCaQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rpBkiPUku6A

Les reseaux de l'horreur (in french)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q0IkA-6Q1L4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ClRTu...feature=relmfu


Do you still want to go there?

The only question is... HOW?

HOW to communicate effectively on this most atrocious subject when indeed so few people are willing to seriously and professionally investigate on this, or simply look at the horrible truth?

Watch for instance this sequence (03:40) with notorious French reporter Karl Zero interviewing this other French well respected reporter Serge Garde
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wydJ0xwe_K4

After the publication by the French newspaper L'Humanité in 1999 of a special dossier on the Zandvoort file, "all the radio's and TV get excited... and then the media below deflated"

As Serge Garde explains:
"It's a subject one does not like to treat because we don't know where it will lead..."


HOW to move public opinion and circumvent all the barriers to truth set forth by status-quo manoeuvres (political, juridical, administrative, secret of instruction and the like...) built-in within the system that will often discourage the bravest "warriors"? Sometimes, as in the case of activist Marc Vervloesem leading to jail, or even death (Marc Vervloesem's collaborator, but also Belgian journalist Alain Stevens aka 'Karmaone', past-editor in chief on this very professionnal website http://karmapolis.be/intro/accueil.htm and who supposingly commited 'suicide').

Where to find the energy and resources, given the general public's basic lack of interest for the subject, when already so much has been done with so little success?

How to move public opinion when still so many people are refusing to even consider the evidence on 9/11 and are basically refusing to take the red pill preferring their Truman show type of existence?

___

BTW the figure of 1 millions demonstrators in the street of Brussels is somewhat exaggerated. The standard estimation was 350.000, which is still a uniquely high figure of people given the size of the country and the context.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marche_Blanche .

Also bear in mind that given the tireless work of the parents of the two most emblematic children victims at the time (Julie and Melissa), many people in Belgium had been aware for a long time about the story. When finally the paedophile Dutroux was arrested, the march was both some sort of decompression and feeling of contempt/rage for the poor performances of the police and justice department in the country.

[Daughter of Time]

Donk,

It is my opinion that all abductees/contactees have programs that demand that they not disclose their experiences. I have become very aware of my programmings, yet they still affect me. I have not, as of yet, been able to disable them completely. So naturally, every time you dig to find solutions, she will vehemently protest. I do not speak from higher knowledge, but simply from my own experiences. Everything I post in this thread is about my personal experiences, which must undoubtedly be similar to other abductees'/contactees'/targets' experiences.

Now, this might not remove your problems, but it's worth a try. Buy your lady a gift - an EMF protector - a simple necklage that she can wear. If she has an implant, the EMF protector will, to some degree, prohibit or soften some of the manipulations affected through her electro-magnetic field. I find that when I wear mine, the programs lose some of their power. At night, I place my EMF protector on my bed board. I started doing this after my last Orionite contact which was particularly terrifying and draining. To my awareness, I have not had a contact since then. Of course, it is possible that they are still doing things to me when I'm unconscious. This, I do not know.

Another thing you can do is buy a miniature fountain which you would place in your bedroom, close to your bed. These are very easy to find in a number of stores. The running water from the fountain will not stop abductions or ET contacts, but they discourage discarnate entities from getting near one. So if her problems stem from discarnate entities' attacks, this would be helpful.

These are simple measures which may or may not work for her, but they are easy to implement, and I'd say they're worth a try.

[Daughter of Time]

Donk,

Houman recommended a book: THE PRACTICAL PSYCHIC SELF-DEFENSE HANDBOOK.

I've read the book and it has many practical, helpful hints about simple things one can do to prevent entity attacks. Of course, if she sees you reading the book, you might be in for another attack! But do consider reading it, perhaps in a place she will not see you, like when she's out of the house, or you could go to a park or library and spend some time with the book whenever time permits? Again, it's worth a try.

[Flash]

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On the "solutions" thread...

How many of you want to go beyond discussions and take the archontic/demonic forces and their minions "head on"?

There is a way to do that... it would put your life (and possibly your sanity) in jeopardy but if a core of people is serious enough about taking that on I will post a way here (again it is not without risk).
It involves work, investigation, communication and going into areas where you would probably not want to go. You would also need to have a robust psyche and a functional "spiritual immune system".

Houman

Hi Houman,

What do you envision when you say that (take the archontic/demonic forces and their minions "head on)?
What would be the objective?
To ban these forces from the face of the earth?

It involves missing children/people and human trafficking...
[Mod-note: beware - the next four images are graphic and upsetting. -Paul.]
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...9ll3o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw...dbf0o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...qz9po1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo...xp2no1_500.jpg

this is the one "thing" that they don't want to see exposed because it is a Pandora's box, if you open it everything comes out, from satanic ritual, MK Ultra to human processing facilities...
it involves finding these missing people/children (those that are still alive, some are kept alive until specific ritual sacrifice dates) and blowing the whole thing out to the open...

as I said there is some risk involved, if you are not already familiar with it, watch these and you will understand (people in very places have been working very hard to keep that thing "shut" and you will getting in their ways... when that thing "opened" a bit in Belgium it lead to demonstrations with more than 1 million people in the streets... Marcel Vervloesem was framed and jailed for trying to open that box (he is still in jail))

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...phile-Networks
in 5 parts (elite pedophile networks in 5 parts with English subtitles)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cB18plt2i6U
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wydJ0xwe_K4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M_2JmGjPffg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T18O0G5RCaQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rpBkiPUku6A

Les reseaux de l'horreur (in french)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q0IkA-6Q1L4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ClRTu...feature=relmfu


Do you still want to go there?

The only question is... HOW?

HOW to communicate effectively on this most atrocious subject when indeed so few people are willing to seriously and professionally investigate on this, or simply look at the horrible truth?

Watch for instance this sequence (03:40) with notorious French reporter Karl Zero interviewing this other French well respected reporter Serge Garde
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wydJ0xwe_K4

After the publication by the French newspaper L'Humanité in 1999 of a special dossier on the Zandvoort file, "all the radio's and TV get excited... and then the media below deflated"

As Serge Garde explains:
"It's a subject one does not like to treat because we don't know where it will lead..."


HOW to move public opinion and circumvent all the barriers to truth set forth by status-quo manoeuvres (political, juridical, administrative, secret of instruction and the like...) built-in within the system that will often discourage the bravest "warriors"? Sometimes, as in the case of activist Marc Vervloesem leading to jail, or even death (Marc Vervloesem's collaborator, but also Belgian journalist Alain Stevens aka 'Karmaone', past-editor in chief on this very professionnal website http://karmapolis.be/intro/accueil.htm and who supposingly commited 'suicide').

Where to find the energy and resources, given the general public's basic lack of interest for the subject, when already so much has been done with so little success?

How to move public opinion when still so many people are refusing to even consider the evidence on 9/11 and are basically refusing to take the red pill preferring their Truman show type of existence?

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BTW the figure of 1 millions demonstrators in the street of Brussels is somewhat exaggerated. The standard estimation was 350.000, which is still a uniquely high figure of people given the size of the country and the context.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marche_Blanche .

Also bear in mind that given the tireless work of the parents of the two most emblematic children victims at the time (Julie and Melissa), many people in Belgium had been aware for a long time about the story. When finally the paedophile Dutroux was arrested, the march was both some sort of decompression and feeling of contempt/rage for the poor performances of the police and justice department in the country.

IT seems that this international pedophile network is linked to the same networks for arm trade, the same networks for international embezzlement of funds, the same power networks, in other names, the PTB networks. So, wherever the achille heel is should be the target. It may not necessarily be pedophilia but something else.

To tell the truth, apart from divine intervention, or us doing divine work, I have problem to see how this can be adressed directly.

It must be excruciating for the chlidren under this sadism and cruelty and for their parents who find the picture of their children on a newspaper wall and having the police tell them it is not their child and do nothing. It is barely conceivable that such deviousnes exist.

I truly do not know what to say Houman. Have you personnaly been submitted to these networks or lost a child to it?