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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    I was asking for was some clarification of the "content" of the video before I spent ANOTHER hour listening to either Alfred Adask OR Alex Jones, while there are AT LEAST a dozen OTHER video's presented here that are AT LEAST as compelling. I DO NOT have six hours a day to devote to video's, as I actually do MORE than come onto your threads and attack your OP with pointless banter and unnecessary tardy comments.

    A gentle note of support here.

    I, too, very much appreciate a summary of a video (even a short one!) before I devote time to listening. It's literally impossible to watch or listen to all the videos that are posted on Avalon with taglines like "Wow, you must see this!"

    In my own case, I pursue various lines of enquiry, but not others. I know many other members do likewise, and their interests and research lines can be quite specific.

    At the moment, I'm focused on gathering clues -- 'data points' on the current graph, so to speak -- that may help me understand what's being planned by the globalists over the next few months. In my opinion, this is of overwhelming importance. I find Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle's claims credible, compelling, and important.

    As I said above, it all fits. Now I'm looking for more data which fits.

    If Alfred Adask adds value to this, please let me know, and I will watch the video.
    G'Day Bill,

    I am not sure who you wanted to answer this, myself or gripreaper...?

    Quote As I said above, it all fits. Now I'm looking for more data which fits.

    If Alfred Adask adds value to this, please let me know, and I will watch the video.
    The 'Alfred Adask' interview outlines the very 'Origins' of the PTW/Illuminati mindset and basically lays the foundations as to what the 'Elite' have been doing for over 1,000 years...

    Going right back to the days where Joseph cheated the commoners out of their food, dignity and finally there souls all in the name of 'Power & Control' on behalf of the Pharoah, masterminded by 'the World's 1st Economist - Joseph in GENESIS' himself...(Starts @ 29.00 minute mark of the video 'below')...

    Quote The Illuminati's (World Govt. Plan) has been 'In Progress' for Centuries, going right back to the days of 'Joseph' and beyond...

    Its (ALL) layed out in the Bible for the entire World to SEE....

    (Genesis Chapter 47)...

    http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-47/
    ...Adask then ties this 'Ancient History' to the modern day 'Definition' of Humans now being classified as 'Animals' in order for the 'Elite' to continue their 1,000 year old Con...

    HUMAN BEING” = “Animal”?

    Quote Alfred Adask - "I am fixated on the state and federal drugs laws that define the people to be “animals”. (See, “Man or Other Animals” and especially the Civil Suit I was involved in.)

    I understand pretty clearly that gov-co’s attempts to define us as “animals” constitutes an act of treason, genocide, and especially spiritual warfare."

    http://adask.wordpress.com/2012/08/0...-being-animal/
    PS - For what its worth Bill, the 'Adask Interview' is even better than the 'Steve Quayle' interview and may just add another piece of that (Spiritual) puzzle to help consolidate your research even further...

    Alfred Adask: The U.S. is Being Destroyed Right Before Our Very Eyes!

    Aug 29, 2012

    Alex’s guest is Alfred Adask, the publisher of the AntiShyster News Magazine who was identified by the federal government as one of the top dozen anti-government activists during the 1990s. He was featured on a CBS 60 Minutes segment where he was pigeonholed as a Sovereign Citizen “guru.” Alex covers other important news items and takes your calls.


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=gu20r...layer_embedded
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    It's the stuff msm doesn't report on that can 'unplug the fan'...e.g.:

    In local news today:

    August 30, 2012
    Schulman Theatres to show '2016: Obama's America' this weekend
    Staff Reports

    Schulman Theatres will be showing the movie “2016: Obama’s America,” starting this weekend.

    The theater had been overwhelmed with phone calls in recent weeks from many local people who were interested in seeing the movie.

    After its successful opening weekend in limited theaters nationwide, the filmmakers are distributing the movie to even more theaters this weekend.

    The 87-minute documentary purports to show what the United States of America would look like were President Obama to win a second term.

    Even my 92 year old neighbor had heard about this film (from her worldly children) and wants to see it...

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    just my luck - health insurance packed up last week after years of paying £130 per month, got a hernia and the new quote is £2000 for just the basic op! Paid for over 30 years and they won't pay! I've not claimed for many years! In this big scheme of things I have to laugh at these daft scenarios - there but for the greater "whatever it is" go I....
    Onward and upwards folks!!! Fooled by the banksterds and insurances yet again....
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    Quote Posted by sunnyrap (here)
    It's the stuff msm doesn't report on that can 'unplug the fan'...e.g.:

    In local news today:

    August 30, 2012
    Schulman Theatres to show '2016: Obama's America' this weekend
    Staff Reports

    Schulman Theatres will be showing the movie “2016: Obama’s America,” starting this weekend.

    The theater had been overwhelmed with phone calls in recent weeks from many local people who were interested in seeing the movie.

    After its successful opening weekend in limited theaters nationwide, the filmmakers are distributing the movie to even more theaters this weekend.

    The 87-minute documentary purports to show what the United States of America would look like were President Obama to win a second term.

    Even my 92 year old neighbor had heard about this film (from her worldly children) and wants to see it...
    WoW - Scary Stuff there sunnyrap...

    Here's an 'Actual Quote' from that film...

    Quote Obama has a 'Dream', a 'Dream' from his father..! That the sins of 'Colonialism' be set right and America be 'Downsized'..!
    2016: Obama's America - Trailer 1


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=gRbqMGtvQD0

    PS -

    8/30/12 Breitbart

    Does D'Souza's Hypocrisy Charge Against Obama Ring True?

    Quote Was it fair for Dinesh D’Souza to call President Obama a hypocrite?" It seems Obama has repeatedly refused to aid his impoverished, slum-dwelling half-brother George—even with emergency medical care for his son, the president’s nephew.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywo...rs-keeper-2016
    Dr. Dinesh D'Souza "2016: Obama's America" - The Jesse Lee Peterson Radio Show

    Jul 17, 2012

    Jesse Lee Peterson w/ Dr. Dinesh D'Souza, NY Times Bestselling author of "The Roots of Obama's Rage" and President of The King's College. D'Souza's new film, "2016: Obama's America" - Love Him, Hate Him, You Don't Know Him! D'Souza's film debuts August 2016. He has interviewed Obama's African half-brother and gone to multiple continents to make this film, produced by an Oscar-winner.


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbusR...eature=related



    http://2016themovie.com/
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    Herewegohereitcomesit'scominglookoutOHNOgetpreparedit'sBIGdon'tbestupidwe'vefigureditoutSOONnextmont hin60days90days4monthsFORSUREhere'sproofsomeoneforrealtoldmei'mnotlying...IT''S TRUE!HOLY&^%*&$*YIIIIIIIIIIIIKES!

    C'mon everyone!! That Quayle/Jones interview has the exact same panicky tone of voice, <proof>, intelligent detail, unnamed insiders, supposed warning in the name of goodwill as endless others of countless things that NEVER HAPPEN.

    I wish the posting of anyone's interview or prediction either human or channelloid as supposedly valid info would include anything the predictor has ever been right about in the past.

    I'm really starting to see the panic prediction revolving door game of over the last 10-15 years and what a fool I was to buy into a lot of them. I see them now as a constant stream of extreme and dire fear mongering scenarios, always a few with a 1-2 month window, a few with a 3-6 month window, & others longer that ALWAYS end with an excuse. Then they can repackage the old data everyone knows, revise and update the fear scenario and give it a new timeframe to milk. Timeframe passes. Revise/Repeat. Timeframe passes. Revise/Repeat.....

    The consistency has been so high, I'm considering all predictions a 99% probability of what ISN'T going to happen - especially the names on the higher visibility Jones, Rense, and C2C circuits.

    I'm suspecting that even the open-minded, intelligent, self-educated and caring anti-establishment crowd have a big 2nd round of awakening to do as to how they are being played, misdirected and energy sucked on many, many fronts. I see frequent quickly buying into anything anti-establishment and intelligently presented as true...... but all!...ALL... these panicky predictions have been extremely full of true facts, true evidence of extreme govt corruption, true lies, true data, extremely plausible intelligent analysis....... and didn't happen.

    Also, the stuff that HAS happened.... none of these people exactly predicted.

    The question for me is more, if all the panicky predictors on the alternative circuit are fed, managed and/or planted, why? What is putting our attention here keeping us from doing??
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    Quote Posted by Sebastasoul (here)
    Herewegohereitcomesit'scominglookoutOHNOgetpreparedit'sBIGdon'tbestupidwe'vefigureditoutSOONnextmont hin60days90days4monthsFORSUREhere'sproofsomeoneforrealtoldmei'mnotlying...IT''S TRUE!HOLY&^%*&$*YIIIIIIIIIIIIKES!

    C'mon everyone!! That Quayle/Jones interview has the exact same panicky tone of voice, <proof>, intelligent detail, unnamed insiders, supposed warning in the name of goodwill as endless others of countless things that NEVER HAPPEN.

    I wish the posting of anyone's interview or prediction either human or channelloid as supposedly valid info would include anything the predictor has ever been right about in the past.

    I'm really starting to see the panic prediction revolving door game of over the last 10-15 years and what a fool I was to buy into a lot of them. I see them now as a constant stream of extreme and dire fear mongering scenarios, always a few with a 1-2 month window, a few with a 3-6 month window, & others longer that ALWAYS end with an excuse. Then they can repackage the old data everyone knows, revise and update the fear scenario and give it a new timeframe to milk. Timeframe passes. Revise/Repeat. Timeframe passes. Revise/Repeat.....

    The consistency has been so high, I'm considering all predictions a 99% probability of what ISN'T going to happen - especially the names on the higher visibility Jones, Rense, and C2C circuits.

    I'm suspecting that even the open-minded, intelligent, self-educated and caring anti-establishment crowd have a big 2nd round of awakening to do as to how they are being played, misdirected and energy sucked on many, many fronts. I see frequent quickly buying into anything anti-establishment and intelligently presented as true...... but all!...ALL... these panicky predictions have been extremely full of true facts, true evidence of extreme govt corruption, true lies, true data, extremely plausible intelligent analysis....... and didn't happen.

    Also, the stuff that HAS happened.... none of these people exactly predicted.

    The question for me is more, if all the panicky predictors on the alternative circuit are fed, managed and/or planted, why? What is putting our attention here keeping us from doing??
    Forget about what You or I think or Alex Jones or Steve Quayle or the MSM or the Govt, etc, etc...

    Throw-Out that useless/pathetic word 'FearMongering' and start assessing the (Bloody - FACTS) with a little dose of 'Discernment' and some good 'Old Fashioned'...

    Quote COMMONSENSE...
    ...now what were you trying to say again Sebastasoul...

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    Quote Posted by Sebastasoul (here)
    Herewegohereitcomesit'scominglookoutOHNOgetpreparedit'sBIGdon'tbestupidwe'vefigureditoutSOONnextmont hin60days90days4monthsFORSUREhere'sproofsomeoneforrealtoldmei'mnotlying...IT''S TRUE!HOLY&^%*&$*YIIIIIIIIIIIIKES!

    C'mon everyone!! That Quayle/Jones interview has the exact same panicky tone of voice, <proof>, intelligent detail, unnamed insiders, supposed warning in the name of goodwill as endless others of countless things that NEVER HAPPEN.

    .........The question for me is more, if all the panicky predictors on the alternative circuit are fed, managed and/or planted, why? What is putting our attention here keeping us from doing??
    Forget about what You or I think or Alex Jones or Steve Quayle or the MSM or the Govt, etc, etc...

    Throw-Out that useless/pathetic word 'FearMongering' and start assessing the (Bloody - FACTS) with a little dose of 'Discernment' and some good 'Old Fashioned'...

    Quote COMMONSENSE...
    ...now what were you trying to say again Sebastasoul...

    I'm saying...
    1. I'm taking notice of the growing mountain of interviews full of 'bloody facts' and 'common sense' like this Quayle/Jones interview urgently warning of many things THAT HAVE NOT HAPPENED.

    2. I'm pointing out that the regulars on this panicky prediction circuit have yet to be right about anything.

    3. I'm pointing out that the regulars on the panicky prediction circuit have missed everything dire and major that HAS happened.

    4. I'm saying we need to take notice of this lengthy pattern and re-assess the messages and messengers.

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    Thank you Jackov.

    I just ask you, if you were a common American, what is the best action to be taken at this time? A lot of us have common sense, however a lot of us do not have uncommon knowledge. Knowledge is power. Absolute power is corrupt. Regarding that topic, are there any definite answers, or even any general answers? Yes, I see that Americans in general have lacked some things (to say the least), however where do we go from here?

    Best regards.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    At the moment, I'm focused on gathering clues -- 'data points' on the current graph, so to speak -- that may help me understand what's being planned by the globalists over the next few months.
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    Quote Posted by Sebastasoul (here)
    I'm saying...
    1. I'm taking notice of the growing mountain of interviews full of 'bloody facts' and 'common sense' like this Quayle/Jones interview urgently warning of many things THAT HAVE NOT HAPPENED.

    2. I'm pointing out that the regulars on this panicky prediction circuit have yet to be right about anything.

    3. I'm pointing out that the regulars on the panicky prediction circuit have missed everything dire and major that HAS happened.

    4. I'm saying we need to take notice of this lengthy pattern and re-assess the messages and messengers.
    1. I dont remember ever having such a huge amount of "Bloody Facts" ... ever. So what you think of the facts/info we have been finding lately ??? (comment the facts not the messeger plz ... I dont care about AJ or Quaule etc etc ... )
    2. I am pretty sure the ONLY thing that the "circuit" are getting wrong is the time of the events. The actual events or at least that something is gonna happen is always correct.
    3. Please care to tell us what major happened and we didnt know or didnt expect something to happen?
    4. So take notice and tell us what you think ... cause all i see you say is they are wrong. Explain / support / educate us plz.

    TBH something is brewing and the events are going so fast that we dont even have time to investigate them. If you dont agree that something is gonna happen and real soon then i will have to disagree with you.

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    Quote Posted by Sebastasoul (here)
    I'm saying...
    1. I'm taking notice of the growing mountain of interviews full of 'bloody facts' and 'common sense' like this Quayle/Jones interview urgently warning of many things THAT HAVE NOT HAPPENED.

    2. I'm pointing out that the regulars on this panicky prediction circuit have yet to be right about anything.

    3. I'm pointing out that the regulars on the panicky prediction circuit have missed everything dire and major that HAS happened.

    4. I'm saying we need to take notice of this lengthy pattern and re-assess the messages and messengers.
    1. I dont remember ever having such a huge amount of "Bloody Facts" ... ever. So what you think of the facts/info we have been finding lately ??? (comment the facts not the messeger plz ... I dont care about AJ or Quaule etc etc ... )
    2. I am pretty sure the ONLY thing that the "circuit" are getting wrong is the time of the events. The actual events or at least that something is gonna happen is always correct.
    3. Please care to tell us what major happened and we didnt know or didnt expect something to happen?
    4. So take notice and tell us what you think ... cause all i see you say is they are wrong. Explain / support / educate us plz.

    TBH something is brewing and the events are going so fast that we dont even have time to investigate them. If you dont agree that something is gonna happen and real soon then i will have to disagree with you.
    Sorry I have to be more vague than you're asking for, but I didn't take notes on the countless interviews I've listened to over many years to be able cite many specifics. You didn't disagree with me that no predictions have actually happened. I'm just saying there's a pattern here now of years of interviews seemingly full of intelligent data and analysis and facts, forming conclusions/predictions that never happen, so what is the agenda if there is one?

    I disagree that there's more bloody facts now than ever, there's been countless interviews full of bloody facts - and I even think a lot of the facts are true.

    Some of the big things that happened without prediction are 9-11, that Obama would do nothing he said, the Syrian, Egyptian and Greece uprisings, the Gulf oil spill, the Japan quake, the current stock market and real estate rally, for a few loosely.

    My only 'taking notice' assessment is wondering if the agenda is a deliberate chaotic mix of well meaning and not well meaning circuit regulars.... all claiming accurate info but also probably gullible to a certain amount of craftily fed non accurate info.... <many different interviewees have very differing 'accurate' info!>....and the 'profitability' factor now seeping into the sensational alternative news circuit........................

    ..Resulting in keeping the intelligent crowd relentlessly interested, always waiting, fearful, confused and on edge about many subjects and purchasing related stuff. Does this mean PTB ongoing goal accomplished??

    Because while we're listening to panicky predictors, the new CEO of Chrysler Sergio Marchionne isn't in the least worried about martial law or financial collapse, has a fresh new line of cars on the line and planned, is making a huge profit again, is putting lots of people to work and looking forward to business as usual for many years to come. No one is warning him to slow down and I bet he has quite the list of (aaah-hemm) 'friends'..

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    Quote Posted by Sebastasoul (here)
    I disagree that there's more bloody facts now than ever, there's been countless interviews full of bloody facts - and I even think a lot of the facts are true.

    Some of the big things that happened without prediction are 9-11, that Obama would do nothing he said, the Syrian, Egyptian and Greece uprisings, the Gulf oil spill, the Japan quake, the current stock market and real estate rally, for a few loosely.

    My only 'taking notice' assessment is wondering if the agenda is a deliberate chaotic mix of well meaning and not well meaning circuit regulars.... all claiming accurate info but also probably gullible to a certain amount of craftily fed non accurate info.... <many different interviewees have very differing 'accurate' info!>....and the 'profitability' factor now seeping into the sensational alternative news circuit........................

    ..Resulting in keeping the intelligent crowd relentlessly interested, always waiting, fearful, confused and on edge about many subjects and purchasing related stuff. Does this mean PTB ongoing goal accomplished??

    Because while we're listening to panicky predictors, the new CEO of Chrysler Sergio Marchionne isn't in the least worried about martial law or financial collapse, has a fresh new line of cars on the line and planned, is making a huge profit again, is putting lots of people to work and looking forward to business as usual for many years to come. No one is warning him to slow down and I bet he has quite the list of (aaah-hemm) 'friends'..
    Well it doesnt really matter if we disagree on the amount of info out there atm. There is atm so much out there that we cant read all of it.

    Now about the predictions you say ...
    About 9-11 i am not really sure cause its been a few years and i wasnt that awake at that period so i barely got any proper info.
    About obama ... you are really wrong. You can search and find many many people were screaming about him and that he isnt the peace president everyone was saying. I guess most just didnt realize how bad he was going to become. Alex Jones for example has many videos talking about Obama during his election and prior to that. (Look it up plz)
    About the uprisings ... omg man you are REALLY REALLY off here. I personally have read many many people talking about this and how it will be controlled and guided to what we have here. As i said THE ONLY THING you cant "predict" (i really hate this word) is the time table. As we know Syria will be invaded like Libya, as we know Iran is next etc etc. We knew about these events couple of years before they happened. Especially in Greece .. we knew something will happen 1 year before Papandreou got elected. He actually signed the IMF and other deals before he got elected ...
    About the Finacial problems ... go read/listen Max Kaiser. He has talked about these "events" years before ... he just doesnt know when exactly. Noone knows the time table thats the hardest (impossible i think) problem.
    Last about the Guilf Spill and the EQ in Japan. I have a feeling you just want to troll here. The topic here is talking about people gathering the info and presenting it to the public. This isnt future telling or future predictions, its simple facts and how you interpret them. Events that are triggered in a moment cant be "predicted" by these means.

    I still dont see you commenting about the info ... i am really worried you think there are none that show things are going bad. Yes if the CEO you said stopped making new cars the sheep would wake up ... if the football stops looking for new players the sheep will be on the streets the next day. But if their friends get jailed for rain water they will just say "Bah its how society is".

    Plz tell us what you think about the info on the above videos else i hope you stop posting like this and contribute something. Even if you disagree with the videos tell us why ... "They never predicted anything" isnt a comment.

    p.s. I hope this didnt come too hard but if you ignore it and continue to just say all these are bull ... ill be forced to think you are here to troll or worse. I hope to hear your thoughts soon.

    p.s.1. This thread is about 3-4 videos ... we all here talk about these not the last 20 years :-P just saying.

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    Quote Posted by Sebastasoul (here)
    I disagree that there's more bloody facts now than ever, there's been countless interviews full of bloody facts - and I even think a lot of the facts are true.

    Some of the big things that happened without prediction are 9-11, that Obama would do nothing he said, the Syrian, Egyptian and Greece uprisings, the Gulf oil spill, the Japan quake, the current stock market and real estate rally, for a few loosely.

    My only 'taking notice' assessment is wondering if the agenda is a deliberate chaotic mix of well meaning and not well meaning circuit regulars.... all claiming accurate info but also probably gullible to a certain amount of craftily fed non accurate info.... <many different interviewees have very differing 'accurate' info!>....and the 'profitability' factor now seeping into the sensational alternative news circuit........................

    ..Resulting in keeping the intelligent crowd relentlessly interested, always waiting, fearful, confused and on edge about many subjects and purchasing related stuff. Does this mean PTB ongoing goal accomplished??

    Because while we're listening to panicky predictors, the new CEO of Chrysler Sergio Marchionne isn't in the least worried about martial law or financial collapse, has a fresh new line of cars on the line and planned, is making a huge profit again, is putting lots of people to work and looking forward to business as usual for many years to come. No one is warning him to slow down and I bet he has quite the list of (aaah-hemm) 'friends'..
    Well it doesnt really matter if we disagree on the amount of info out there atm. There is atm so much out there that we cant read all of it.

    Now about the predictions you say ...
    About 9-11 i am not really sure cause its been a few years and i wasnt that awake at that period so i barely got any proper info.
    About obama ... you are really wrong. You can search and find many many people were screaming about him and that he isnt the peace president everyone was saying. I guess most just didnt realize how bad he was going to become. Alex Jones for example has many videos talking about Obama during his election and prior to that. (Look it up plz)
    About the uprisings ... omg man you are REALLY REALLY off here. I personally have read many many people talking about this and how it will be controlled and guided to what we have here. As i said THE ONLY THING you cant "predict" (i really hate this word) is the time table. As we know Syria will be invaded like Libya, as we know Iran is next etc etc. We knew about these events couple of years before they happened. Especially in Greece .. we knew something will happen 1 year before Papandreou got elected. He actually signed the IMF and other deals before he got elected ...
    About the Finacial problems ... go read/listen Max Kaiser. He has talked about these "events" years before ... he just doesnt know when exactly. Noone knows the time table thats the hardest (impossible i think) problem.
    Last about the Guilf Spill and the EQ in Japan. I have a feeling you just want to troll here. The topic here is talking about people gathering the info and presenting it to the public. This isnt future telling or future predictions, its simple facts and how you interpret them. Events that are triggered in a moment cant be "predicted" by these means.

    I still dont see you commenting about the info ... i am really worried you think there are none that show things are going bad. Yes if the CEO you said stopped making new cars the sheep would wake up ... if the football stops looking for new players the sheep will be on the streets the next day. But if their friends get jailed for rain water they will just say "Bah its how society is".

    Plz tell us what you think about the info on the above videos else i hope you stop posting like this and contribute something. Even if you disagree with the videos tell us why ... "They never predicted anything" isnt a comment.

    p.s. I hope this didnt come too hard but if you ignore it and continue to just say all these are bull ... ill be forced to think you are here to troll or worse. I hope to hear your thoughts soon.

    p.s.1. This thread is about 3-4 videos ... we all here talk about these not the last 20 years :-P just saying.

    Maybe the reason I replied in the first place should have been it's own thread then. You're right, I'm not discussing the info in those videos because I don't disagree with the collected data for the most part. You're right about the timing being the trickiest part of predicting, but there sure is a very long list accumulating with lots of passed deadlines. I also didn't give much thought to the examples of stuff not predicted you asked for, (I did say 'loosely'). Maybe those issues were spoken about, but I listed subjects that to me didn't have anywhere close to the volumes of interviewers saying the same thing like this big collapse warning going on now.

    I can only close this by repeating what I first said - I replied in this thread because the Quayle/Jones interview so loudly (to me) sounded just like 100+ others I've heard now over the years, full of credible sounding facts and anxiously warning of things that never happened. It sounded like all the others with people so sure of themselves that ended up being wrong and thought I saw a longterm pattern and wondered about it. If it was wrong to say it here, sorry.

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    Exclamation Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement / PROPHECY FULFILLED (Video)

    PART 1:Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement - THE PEOPLE MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND REPENT
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=7ZkjcGYNMvs&feature=plcp


    PART 2:Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement - THE PEOPLE MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND REPENT
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    PART 1: PROPHECY FULFILLED (Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement)
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4R71cBdl1UY&feature=plcp


    PART 2: PROPHECY FULFILLED (Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement)
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=yN_Nl...2&feature=plcp


    PART 3: PROPHECY FULFILLED (Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement)
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    Default Re: Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement / PROPHECY FULFILLED (Video)

    Very big religious overtone in these video.

    As far as I am concerned, I may forgive, me and others, for having created this reality, but I do not have to repent (many times mentioned in the videos), I am done with the guilt feeling and the control through guilt programs.

    As for the dreams, there is, I believe different kind of dreams. Some are to repair your body, some to repair your psyche, some are just to adjust whatever went on during the day, and very few ones (unless you practice for it) are prophecies and true clairvoyance.

    The little I heard in those videos, it looks much more as repair/adjustments dreams than any prophecies or clairvoyance.

    In resume, i would as well listen to the dreams of my friends, I could have at minimum as much from it.

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    Default Re: Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement / PROPHECY FULFILLED (Video)

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Very big religious overtone in these video.

    As far as I am concerned, I may forgive, me and others, for having created this reality, but I do not have to repent (many times mentioned in the videos), I am done with the guilt feeling and the control through guilt programs.

    As for the dreams, there is, I believe different kind of dreams. Some are to repair your body, some to repair your psyche, some are just to adjust whatever went on during the day, and very few ones (unless you practice for it) are prophecies and true clairvoyance.

    The little I heard in those videos, it looks much more as repair/adjustments dreams than any prophecies or clairvoyance.

    In resume, i would as well listen to the dreams of my friends, I could have at minimum as much from it.
    Making a statement like that saying it is religious make sure you understand the difference between that and spirituality, Because it is not in her
    words in the physical that makes the punch but in the spirit in the spiritual realm.
    Do you now that your living in a world just like this on the other side ? that is as real as this one (Full color ,buildings people , etc)?

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    Default Re: Dream of Barack Obama and Judgement / PROPHECY FULFILLED (Video)

    I have been raised catholic and believe me, I see religious ovetones all over those videos, and I am very sensitive at detecting them. And I do make the difference with spirituality (hopefully).

    As for the impact on me, religious tones will use the repent, the guilt trip, away from yourself and the constant danger feelings, etc. Spirituality would mostly overall make you feel empowered through your own self (higher self, whatever it is), even when discourage, threatened or in face of Evil for example. The difference is quite substantial.

    The other side is like this side, because it is what we want to believe and what we have to work through.
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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    I have been raised catholic and believe me, I see religious ovetones all over those videos, and I very sensitive at detecting them. And I do make the difference with spirituality (hopefully).

    As for the impact on me, religious tones will use the repent, the guit trip, away from yourself and the constant danger, etc. Spirituality would mostly overall make you feel empowered through your own self (higher self, whatever it is), even when discourage, threatened or in face of Evil for example. The difference is quite substantial.

    The other side is like this side, because it is what we want to believe and what we have to work through.
    Like I said it is not the words that it may sound "religious" ,because that is not how you can identifiey who is. It is going take time to see if some one is religios or not.

    Does who follow the way of spirit have it. But you still going to need the discerntment for does who are ,because people still make their mistakes.

    And second I have experience the other side it is not the same but similar. You think
    your at your place but that could not be the case.(Whent to bed and woke up on the other side)

    I live it and see it and experience it, but your stilll going to have to do it your self.

    I know this is a spiritual school and satan is controling the game we have created. can we realy undo what we have got are self in too ?I am not talking about my self here but everyone who is here.

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    About religion ,some one who is in to science or new age can be religious. But it does not sound like religion does it?
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    Default Who is the REAL Barack Obama?

    Worth a listen ... liar liar pants on fire...

    This is an extraordinary fact based expose of the fairy tale story "sold" to the American public about Barack Obama and those who have surrounded and influenced him since childhood. Do you know ANYONE who believes the things Obama believes or would do the things Obama has done? What is most disturbingis the extent to which the mainstream media has been complicit in keeping these facts from the American public.



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    Default Re: Who is the REAL Barack Obama?

    I HATE the way he changes his accent depending on the demographic he is addressing....
    Oh and like his "Grandfather" he's serving the British.



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