One interpretation of what the Mayans said will happen in 2012

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Rantaak (here)
Despite the dissenting beliefs of many others who gather here, these predictions are in accordance to what I have been shown in the second attention, as well as the knowledge that I have held in my heart for many many lifetimes between now and pre-atlantis.

Thank you, viking. Let's all get off our butts and make this happen.

It's good to see that I am not the only one that has this inner knowing of what will be very soon...good call Rantaak...you are not alone. And many here feel the same.

viking

[greybeard]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Chris... when are you going to learn?

See this post and this post.

As I wrote above, the likes of Greg Braden proffer things without any supporting data nor evidences. Until he and his likes provide data and evidences whatever they proffer is science fiction.

Hi Amer Zo
I enquired to the site that Gregg Braden is associated with and have permission to paste the reply.
The videos I quoted from are some years old.
He obviously now does not state the resonance is rising, that, as you kindly pointed out is not so.
However he acted in good faith as I did.
Gregg does an enormous amount of good work.
Regards Chris



"Hi Chris,



I know Gregg well and also have the upmost respect for him. I know that he has talked about the Schumann resonance frequency rising in the past. I asked him what the source for this was and he told me it was a Russian group that had said the second harmonic was increasing in intensity, not frequency. I suggested he stop talking about this as it is not true from what we see. The Schumann resonance frequencies have not changed since they were first measured in the early 60s although there is a ½ Hz variation between day and night. There are clearly changes in the intensities of the resonances – they go on all the time – up and down, and we are starting to see a long-term correlation with the solar cycle which is 10.5 to 11 years, which makes sense – so I can see how the Russian source may have observed a steady increase in the intensity without realizing it is related to a longer cycle and would modulate down again.



Hope this helps



Rollin"





Rollin McCraty, Ph.D.

Director of Research



HeartMath Research Center

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by greybeard (here)
I know Gregg well and also have the upmost respect for him. I know that he has talked about the Schumann resonance frequency rising in the past. I asked him what the source for this was and he told me it was a Russian group that had said the second harmonic was increasing in intensity, not frequency. I suggested he stop talking about this as it is not true from what we see. The Schumann resonance frequencies have not changed since they were first measured in the early 60s although there is a ½ Hz variation between day and night. There are clearly changes in the intensities of the resonances – they go on all the time – up and down, and we are starting to see a long-term correlation with the solar cycle which is 10.5 to 11 years, which makes sense – so I can see how the Russian source may have observed a steady increase in the intensity without realizing it is related to a longer cycle and would modulate down again.

That makes more sense, Chris. Thanks!

[we-R-one]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Hi Amer Zo
I enquired to the site that Gregg Braden is associated with and have permission to paste the reply.
The videos I quoted from are some years old.
He obviously now does not state the resonance is rising, that, as you kindly pointed out is not so.
However he acted in good faith as I did.
Gregg does an enormous amount of good work.
Regards Chris



"Hi Chris,

I know Gregg well and also have the upmost respect for him. I know that he has talked about the Schumann resonance frequency rising in the past. I asked him what the source for this was and he told me it was a Russian group that had said the second harmonic was increasing in intensity, not frequency. I suggested he stop talking about this as it is not true from what we see. The Schumann resonance frequencies have not changed since they were first measured in the early 60s although there is a ½ Hz variation between day and night. There are clearly changes in the intensities of the resonances – they go on all the time – up and down, and we are starting to see a long-term correlation with the solar cycle which is 10.5 to 11 years, which makes sense – so I can see how the Russian source may have observed a steady increase in the intensity without realizing it is related to a longer cycle and would modulate down again.

Hope this helps

Rollin"

Rollin McCraty, Ph.D.

Director of Research

HeartMath Research Center

So glad you did that! I was actually going to email and ask later this afternoon. I came across the same information as I was doing some startpage searches. Gregg was getting his information from Russian scientists. He also mentioned Professor Bannerjee of the University of New Mexico and that would be another contact we could approach. I also pulled up a search of Gregg Braden videos with schuman resonance and all I found were outdated videos back to 2009, I could not find anything current. I noticed in one of them that he never said schuman resonance, but referred to it as the "heart beat of the planet"- I assumed he meant schuman resonance.

I suppose this now negates his theory that the magnetics are dropping? Though it is my understanding that solar flares do cause the magnetic field to weaken, so I guess we can have weakend magnetic field and no frequency increase? What about the surge of energy approaching from the center of the galaxy that's tied in to all of this?

Regardless, I still thing Braden is good at what he does. He's not perfect, none of us are and I do not find his actions to be malicious and I do think it's unfair that he gets labeled in such a negative manner. Everyone is trying to understand what is happening and mistakes, misinterpretations, etc, will continue.

Let me ask this question...so typically my understanding was that an external force would be what was needed to change the magnetics of the planet....but what about the reverse? If our hearts and minds are tied to the frequencies of earth, can the change not be created from within? Can we as people, be the internal force who increase the frequency by our thoughts and emotions on a grand scale? Could the reverse be true?

[Hervé]

Posted by greybeard (here)
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I know Gregg well and also have the upmost respect for him. I know that he has talked about the Schumann resonance frequency rising in the past. I asked him what the source for this was and he told me it was a Russian group that had said the second harmonic was increasing in intensity, not frequency. I suggested he stop talking about this as it is not true from what we see. The Schumann resonance frequencies have not changed since they were first measured in the early 60s although there is a ½ Hz variation between day and night. There are clearly changes in the intensities of the resonances – they go on all the time – up and down, and we are starting to see a long-term correlation with the solar cycle which is 10.5 to 11 years, which makes sense – so I can see how the Russian source may have observed a steady increase in the intensity without realizing it is related to a longer cycle and would modulate down again.

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Thanks for your initiative chris, seems you are becoming a fast learner .

I am glad McCraty managed to convince Braden with the actual data.

That puts another fictional myth to rest!

[we-R-one]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks for your initiative chris, seems you are becoming a fast learner .

I am glad McCraty managed to convince Braden with the actual data.

That puts another fictional myth to rest!

Additionally, I hope you will still take into consideration that Gregg Braden is on the steering committee of GCI, and if he was such a clown, that could in your mind and maybe others who don't like Braden, negate this organization which you're touting to be in "the know" and proponents of true scientific facts. Since you probably aren't going to do that, and neither am I, I hope you recognize and consider that Braden does know what he's talking about, otherwise he wouldn't be in the position that he is with GCI. Wouldn't you agree? C'mon, be fair.....

It still has to be noted that they are a 501(c)(3) and any time government funding comes into play- may it serve as a warning flag to possible underlying problems with the data that is distributed because of this funding.

Government funding often means there are strings attached, which is quite evident if you look at the financial conditions of various cities and counties that are forced to accept unwanted government policies all for the sake of receiving this so called funding to keep their heads afloat.

[we-R-one]

Posted by viking (here)
6. - Everybody on this planet is mutating. Some are more conscious of it than others. But everyone is doing it.

We NEED NO WORDS to communicate & understand exactly what our "pets" have to tell us...& IF we were not "taught" that it is impossible to do, or just "freaky" if you can...We already know each others’ thoughts too ! We energetically ARE able to experience and “feel” other people’s energy. You do this EVERY DAY already,...it is just that you have been "educated" not to TRUST this "feeling", because "it" cannot be "verified" by any rational equation !!!!

Are YOU starting to understand the Pattern here that we are "subjected" to ??

I have to laugh Viking as I was trying to remember where I had read this as I wanted to comment...I assumed the thread was long gone, and then by chance I went back to your first page and found what I was looking for....easy to go off topic with so many factors involved that seem to be intimately intertwined with one another.

I can verify that #6 is happening. For quite some time I have often "felt" what some animals are saying to me. I work with animals as one of my jobs so I'm around them quite a bit. I don't know why some of their thoughts "come" to me more than others.

I'm also beginning to experience this with people on a more frequent basis. I can walk by people and "feel" their thoughts. Most of the time I brush it off, but I'm noticing that my subconscious is beginning to bring it forward more strongly. The most recent occurrence happened a few days ago when I was driving. There was a black car driving behind me with a couple in it.......I believe I must have picked up on the conversation they were having in the car, as I gathered they were on their way to the movies...it's as if I could "feel" what they were saying. It would be easy to blow off this experience as how could one prove the fact unless the couple was asked, but in this instance it just so happened that I was going in the same direction as their car and was able to verify that, in fact, they drove into the parking lot of the movie theater. I had to make a u-turn in the same parking lot as I was looking for a business and had passed it, so I saw them get out of their car and walk toward the theater.

I picked up on their conversation about 3 miles away when I noticed they were behind me, so there was no underlying indication that would have cued me to their potential destination. Thought you would find this interesting........I am noticing this ability, more and more, but often don't get to verify what I'm experiencing as I did that day; because the only way would be to either follow people or walk up to them and ask.

I have had the ability to work/read energy since I was a little girl, but I can tell my abilities are getting stronger and are becoming more noticeable.

[Hervé]

Posted by we-R-one (here)
[...] I hope you recognize and consider that Braden does know what he's talking about, otherwise he wouldn't be in the position that he is with GCI. Wouldn't you agree? C'mon, be fair.....

[...]

To be fair, you forgot that part:

I know that he has talked about the Schumann resonance frequency rising in the past. [...] I suggested he stop talking about this as it is not true from what we see.

Which means someone in that organisation had to take him aside and confront him with the actual data so that he quits pumping out hot gases.

Agreed on your red flags. Also worth mentioning is that Gegg Braden worked for Martin Marietta Defense Systems.

[we-R-one]

No, I did not forget that part Amzer Zo. The guy isn't perfect, and you are holding a grudge based on comments he made from what I can see were several years ago...let it go. If we condemned every person for making an error of judgment in their work, we'd never get anywhere. I'm not expecting you to start a Gregg Braden fan club, I'm just asking you to be fair in your considerations. How would you liked to be judged for your mistakes and to loose all your credibility based on a disagreement of interpretation? Do you really think it would be right to discard all of that persons work?

Gregg Braden is on that committee for a reason and it's not because he's an idiot.

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oh, and by the way, I thank you for teaching more about the Schuman Resonance, my consciousness is learning to take more in thanks to your efforts!

[Hervé]

The rise in my irritability level is in fact due to people keeping bringing that point up because the GREAT Gregg Braden said that the Schumann... yada-yada... in spite of having been shown the data again and again. These people would rather believe than looking at the data.

That's all I am gona say on that subject.

[we-R-one]

aaah, I understand. When I first looked at your explanation I had no idea what to do with the information, it has taken me a while to absorb and learn as I do not consider myself to be scientifically wired as you are. I suspect that many others are having the same difficulty. Because I do not operate in this field for my daily paycheck, I am somewhat forced to rely on people who are suppose to know what the hey is going on. This is what you're up against and when fraud enters into the system, it makes things even more difficult to wade through. It shouldn't be this hard to get information, but alas, welcome to living in the world of duality.

And though at times I may ask stupid and obvious questions, I truly want to understand.....as I read more about Schuman Resonance(a term I was not familiar with as I missed Gregg eluding to this exact phrase), I had to laugh at one of my previous questions as even in the short time that I took the time to read the GCI website, I realized that my initial question might have sounded silly to someone in "the know".

so hey, think of it this way, you now just educated two Gregg Braden fans, lol

[greybeard]

David Sereda talks about the effects of Sun energy on DNA and twenty twelve Mayan predictions.
I have no way of validating what he says so Im posting in good faith.
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

[Ultima Thule]

Thanks Chris!
Very interesting, sounds very much like my insight of the second harmonic frequency would be somewhat on the right lines, which I referred to in post #42: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post551663

At first reading of the reply you got, I wasn´t quite sure though whether which one the second harmonic is, but with a search about what are the harmonics of Schumann resonance one gets for example:
https://www.recordunion.com/Music/Album/9421
where it is stated that the second harmonic is at around 14 hz. I know that is just a musical record and as such not a very scientific source, but still I am very intrigued about the reply you got as that - to me anyway - fits in perfectly with the logic of how things should be.

UT
ps. Chris, did I already say thank you?!

[Mu2143]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks for your initiative chris, seems you are becoming a fast learner .

I am glad McCraty managed to convince Braden with the actual data.

That puts another fictional myth to rest!

Additionally, I hope you will still take into consideration that Gregg Braden is on the steering committee of GCI, and if he was such a clown, that could in your mind and maybe others who don't like Braden, negate this organization which you're touting to be in "the know" and proponents of true scientific facts. Since you probably aren't going to do that, and neither am I, I hope you recognize and consider that Braden does know what he's talking about, otherwise he wouldn't be in the position that he is with GCI. Wouldn't you agree? C'mon, be fair.....

It still has to be noted that they are a 501(c)(3) and any time government funding comes into play- may it serve as a warning flag to possible underlying problems with the data that is distributed because of this funding.

Government funding often means there are strings attached, which is quite evident if you look at the financial conditions of various cities and counties that are forced to accept unwanted government policies all for the sake of receiving this so called funding to keep their heads afloat.

The name of the game is control and this is done on a spiritual level as well. Satan sees this and will make sure it will get the money it needs do his bidding
And I have seen Satan in the spiritual realm and he is a head size bigger then me ,must be that is why I see it ? I was in my true form or full form , not this lower self.

[Mu2143]

O BTW Alex Collier who talked about what will happen to the Schumann resonance and he said it will "Go way HIGH UP". Not to 13 thats way to low.

And BTW 13 is a number the PTB uses and they promote the New Age stuff

[Mandala]

Amzer Zo is our resident science guy. This is not my forte at all, but the article was interesting.

http://www.sound-physics.com/


There has been some confusion about the Schumann Resonance. A lot of people are saying that it is gradually increasing. Here's some information that will hopefully make things clear and lead to a better understanding of the phenomenon.
What is the Schumann Resonance?

Sound can "re-sound" or resonate when the source waves are added constructively to the sound bouncing back and forth inside a resonant chamber. In other words, when we are in an acoustically active environment, one with a high degree of "echo," we can amplify the sound by making more sound that constructively adds to the echo. (Read more about sound resonance.)

In the simplest terms, the Schumann Resonance is the resonance of low frequency electromagnetic waves bouncing around in the earth, with the earth being the active "resonant chamber."
Let Us Explain...
The Schumann Resonance is the resonance of low frequency electromagnetic waves bouncing around in the earth, with the earth being the active resonant chamber.

The earth is surrounded by a layer of charged particles called the ionosphere. This layer of active charged particles is able to reflect low frequency electromagnetic radiation in a similar way as that of a mirror which is able to reflect light. Electromagnetic radiation is like radio waves or light. It travels at close to the speed of light, 300,000,000 m/s.

The ionosphere's property of reflecting radio waves is what enables you to tune in to radio stations around the world. If the ionosphere did not reflect radio waves as it doesn't reflect light, we would not be able to tune in a distant radio station because the signal would have gone out into space. This is exactly what happens with high frequency electromagnetic radiation like light. It is what allows us to see stars "through" the ionosphere.

The earth's surface is also conductive and, therefore, also reflects low frequency radiation. It is in this way that radio station signals from around the world reflect back and forth between the ionosphere and the surface.

So, both the earth's surface and the ionosphere are conductive surfaces able to reflect low frequency electromagnetic radiation. Together they create a resonant cavity. This cavity then is what makes the earth into a "resonant chamber" for electromagnetic radiation.

The earth is approximately 6,371 km in diameter or 40,030 km in circumference. An electromagnetic or radio signal travels at close to the speed of light. It, therefore, takes close to 0.1334 seconds to travel around the earth. This time would correlate with about 7.49 Hz. Notice that this is less than the 7.83 Hz that is commonly quoted. If you take into account that the ionosphere is approximately 300 km up and adjust the radius by 150 km, the calculation results in a round trip taking 0.136 seconds, which correlates to a frequency of approximately 7.32 Hz.

The 7.83 Hz is not an exact, specific frequency, but the "average" peak frequency of the resonance. It is necessary to average the Schumann frequencies over long periods of time, since the resonant peak is not particularly distinct and it changes with environmental conditions. This is the reason there are many stations like the one at Stanford that measures the frequency daily.

It is also interesting to note that 7.83 isn't the only resonant frequency. Other "harmonic" frequencies are also resonant, including approximately 14, 20, 26, 32, 37, and 42 Hz etc.
So, is the Schumann Resonance rising?

We don't know, but it makes sense that it could be if the first harmonic at 14 Hz started to resonate, for whatever reason, more strongly than the fundamental.

Amzer. need your feedback on this.

[PathWalker]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
The rise in my irritability level is in fact due to people keeping bringing that point up because the GREAT Gregg Braden said that the Schumann... yada-yada... in spite of having been shown the data again and again. These people would rather believe than looking at the data.

That's all I am gona say on that subject.

I understand your point.
I also understand that this scientific discussion is pointless for these reasons:
1. The participants do not understand the underlying physics principles.
2. Physics principals as we know it now are a holly theory we are not allowed to question (such as isotropic universe).
3. Physics is about objective measurement, ascension is about personal experience/evolution (my personal view).
4. Most if not all the "objective" data are rigged and controlled by TPB. Anyone to question these data sets is a dangerous act of career suicide.

I suggest anyone interested in these subject evaluate this information with their subjective inner knowing, filter out desire (wishful thinking), filter out fear.
There are many techniques to achieve the above. The bottom line is reaching to your inner authority.
We are programmed to seek external authority (science, religion, government...).

Evolution is about taking back control of our self programming.

[Hervé]

Posted by Mandala (here)
[...]

Amzer. need your feedback on this.

Mostly correct.

see the answer to Chris (post # 96 above ) as to the fluctuations in intensity of the 14 Hz harmonic.

[Hervé]

Posted by PathWalker;552894[...

I also understand that this scientific discussion is pointless

[...]

When someone blabbers about a physically measurable quantity and clamors that that particular quantity is increasing in the face of actual data of that same measured quantity which demonstrate an exemplar steadiness, me think that that particular aspect of the discussion is far from pointless since it's akin to clamoring that the Statue of Liberty just doubled in height... BTW, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale.

[huyi82]

Posted by viking (here)

Pacal Votan's prophetic call is alerting present-day humanity that our biological process is transforming, approaching the culmination of a 12,500 year evolutionary program. It brings in the return of universal telepathy, heightened sense capacity, and self-reflective consciousness, which is a return to the sacred domain of our inner technology.

Many skills will be rediscovered. Bi-location. Teleporting. The ability to move between timelines, to revisit the past and change it for a better NOW. To step into different futures and try them on.

To manifest in physical reality. And much, much more....

do we really need that kind of power in the wrong hands? if EVERYONE (including evil people) had this power to time travel the whole history could be messed up and co exist with other peoples timelines? or will time travel only effect your timeline? also what happens when evil people like criminals erase their crimes or people who use these new founded powers for personal gain? you say money will be gone but will the elite and so forth not letting go of this illusion, not all people are willing to let go something that have been conditioned since birth to believe that it makes the world go round.

so many people believe all this hype how the world is going to change but will this truly happen with the way the world is now currently? we all need change if we humans are going to evolve, i just hope all these "changes" are for the better, i am sick of living currently in a selfish cruel heartless world that is why i hope for change, i hope december 2012 changes peoples hearts and forces people to care for others, that is the only reason i am staying alive for december 2012 for the experience, if the world is the same around that time i don't know what to do at that point, it's a long story regarding how i feel but i need hope and a reason to be here or my purpose is meaningless and a waste of time, that is how i see it anyway.