The daily hammer

[ulli]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Good points Carmody and Ulli re escalating. Thats why everybodys afraid of this thread except for those who dont mind escalating to the edge anyway. The nice folks. People think Im nice I think. But Ive got a serious competitve side Ive kept under wraps since I left Academia. But Im returning in the Spring so its gonna need some airing out.

Being nice often is not helpful to personal evolution. In many cases it is fear based. It seems, as with everything, there is a middling path where aggression has to meet passivity.

So Im challenging the nice ones. Yes that means you.

I wanna bring the hammer on those who are always preaching scientific objectivity. Thats whats got us in the mess were in right now technologically. Thats whats got us testing product on animals and people. Thats whats got Gaia on the ropes contemplating gangsta solutions. That vaunted and supposed objectivity allowed the West to rape the world and justify it as survival of the fittest and social darwinism. So called scientific objectivity is the bane of the world. Defending it and calling for it here is going directly against the forums new mantra regarding a space where science and spirituality meet.

Im calling all of you out. The hammer is coming down.

You found your niche, Rahkyt.
I mean ledge.
I mean sledge.

Whatever. Eagles nest. (duck, duck)

[Arrowwind]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Try sticking a pin in a 9e9 voo doo doll, and it will wind up planted squarely in your own rear end, mark my words, Fred. No one with any sense would think of doing such a thing in 9's direction! *coughcoughmusiccough*

You've got to be kidding!
Why would anyone allow her to take such power over them.
You need to go back to school and learn how to defend yourself
on multidimensinal levels
and any other plane you hang out in.

(and please take the work 'you' in a nonpersonal way, Im talking to those she got the best of or tried to get the best of though her beligigerance)

9e9 met her limit here. She got canned. she has anger that she is not dealing with. she projects her anger on others to no great avail.
If you got trapped in her anger web, you can ignore her, you can react with anger, you can react with feelings of low self esteem, guilt, shame, you can react with centered consciousness...
but her mode of operation turned into anger . Shes got deep issues she hasn't resolved

she thinks shes got to take a hammer to people to wake them up
but that is a abusive approach
she doesnt know how to make any other approach effective.

and her attachments to outcome rule her.. she has to have you see it her way
cause she beleives her way is the only right way, which of courese makes you wrong,
your experience wrong, your path of learing wrong, your whole existence based on wrongness.

So she gets pissed off and takes out her hammer and slams you.

Did it feel good? Did it help? Did you learn? Are you healed?
are you transformed?


Its like an abusive parent who kicks a kid because he doesnt really know how to love a kid, teach a kid, allow a kid to 'be' into its own evolution.

Voodoo only works on those who are not energetically evovled and who dont have their chakra system working in unison.
She couldnt touch me with a 10 foot pole.

Dont get me wrong, 9e9, she's a very smart lady.. quick with words, can weave a tale, a good talker...
but the person she's been hurting most is herself for she feels self justified to be angry and to project it out to the world
to teach em all.

Good greif, Thank god some where were bright enough to try to call her on it or I would have lost all hope for this forum.

I never did confront her on the treads she took over. I did warn her once that her anger would get the best of her but she came back to me with a defence for her abusiveness.
Oh well. It was a battle I had no interest in really, at least to get involved in the heat of it. This is for those who felt she took liberties in their direction, either collectively or personally.

So there, my hammer for the day.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by ulli (here)
hmm...interesting.
I wish I had Carmody's post handy....
He once explained how there is a gender thing going on when it comes to making peaceful choices.
In his post he described a bunch of shop assistants chasing a shop lifter down the road, and only the female kept on running,

This post: Here and Now...What's Happening? (Post #11842)

[Camilo]

6 out of the 21 years I lived in the USA, I was a PI, and "surveillance" was one the most requested services by our clients. Some times I feel like something similar is going on here.

[Selene]

This will not end well.

My money's on the eagle.... and I'm also outta here, guys. Have fun.



Cheers,

Selene

[modwiz]

Posted by ulli (here)
This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy...w=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs up for the hamster idea.

[write4change]

I am now enscounced in my office after three weeks on the road and 3600 miles by myself. I could write a book about what I have learned about my country. I admit to being ego weak that taking the time to write and finding it not useful to others makes me stop. So overcoming that feeling is my first step to writing.

I have been reading all these threads and their relations and I am working up to addressing them. I like the idea of this hammer thread. I do not write on what is happening because it feels so fairy airy on a whole. I am not saying that is bad. I am saying my life is a daily hammer right now and I do not have what it takes to be either clever or beautiful. I am being slammed and I am slamming. I am also influenced by what people have to say.

The purpose of this reply is to explain for the first time where I am now. I wrote on Ulli's thread about being robbed on July 3rd by someone I let in my house who asked for my help. That person was an old black woman and I live in the hood of LA. I said I would never help another black person and I was told to rethink using such a broad brush. Which I did even though I have had six years of experience being white in the hood. I hate thinking of myself as a racist. But I cannot tell who is a good black person and who is not. I don't have the radar for the black con the way I have an instinct for bad white people.

So I have been preparing for the big trip to Texas--getting my car fixed in all ways which was a couple of thousand dollars but I had chosen to keep the old car in good repair rather than a newer used car I knew nothing about. I cannot afford a new one period.

I always feel watched in my neighborhood. They see me packing a lugging things to the garage. They see me packing up the car. At 68 I am slow. So the day before I am to leave this reasonably young black woman comes pounding on my door and crying her mother has collapsed and been taken to Centinnela hospital and could I please take her there and she will pay me 20 dollars etc. I decide this will kill two birds with one stone and I will drop her off and go to the 99 cent store and pick up ice and stuff for the trip. To make a long story shorter, she is directing me heither and yon and I am getting fed up. She has me drop her off at a school. What I don't realize is that while I turned my back to pick up my purse and things and she is standing in the doorway, she steals my extra car key and while we are in the car she asks for stuff which I say no and gages my reaction to her trying to reach things in the back seat. I have left the front seat vacant for the cat. I drop her off and go in the house to fix the stuff to leave for the trip. She uses the key to get in the car and takes my purse with 1900 dollars in it and my cell phone. My car has a computer key and I had just bought a second one to the tune of 125 dollars and I am not used to having it and so placed it by the door so I would not forget it. I wanted to buy a magnetic box to put it in--not in my purse. My car is so safe electronically that I feel it is safer than the house and why I left my purse in it.

So I am confronted with no money for the trip and she has my car key and can steal the car. I already know the police in LA will really do nothing. Their big money is made confiscating cars and auctioning them and crime of the poor on the poor holds no interest for them. So I decide to take the money that will pay the bills for September and go to Texas anyway and see if this is a fantasy or not.

While I was gone, whoever had my phone which was brand new and paid through November, called one of my friends three times. I did enough good on the trip to Texas that I was able to let it all go and just deal with the next steps. Sunday at 8PM I am sleeping on my couch with the windows and doors open but barred because it has been over a 100 for days and I am still recovering from the trip.

This woman bangs on my door. I turn on the light and I see it is the same woman who pulled the con and got my car key etc. As soon as I turn on the light she covers her face and asks me to turn out the light as it hurts her eyes. I am keeping the door closed. She starts on some tupper ware song and dance and I wonder what she is doing and I am acting disoriented from being woke up. And I know she thinks I am an easy mark now. Short story she offers me a silver colored medallion with a prayer on it for my key chain. I am interested in taking it to get her finger prints. I open the door to let my hand only out to receive it and she pulls it open and pepper sprays me in the face. I now know or feel this is a fight to the death--mine. The steel door is behind me and even though I am blind and in huge pain I push her out and try slamming the steel door closed. We are fighting back and forth with her trying to get in and me keeping her out. I cannot lock the door, she is preventing it somehow and I cannot keep it closed tightly. Things are breaking everywhere. I am spitting this stuff out of my mouth and I am finally able to start screaming and I am bellowing because I can hardly speak now. The screaming causes her to leave. I have no phone. None of my neighbors are home. I am running up and down the street blind screaming for someone to call 911.

When the EMTs come my blood pressure is 148 over 88 which is not bad for what I have done. There is a part of me that is proud that I beat her but I realize that she thought the pepper spray would do me in and I am not sure what she thought she would do after that. Was she prepared to beat me to death for stuff. She did feel the full fury of my will which I think she thought not possible. What she did get this time was my key chain with all my keys on it. Some of my black friends came and got me that night and drove my car off.

My black friends think this is a junkie and my white friends think this is all about the law suit and too coincidental. Because someone tried to kill me once over money and for a law suit. I have been preparing for this for a year which is why I have the downtown office in LA and there is no paper trail to it. I have told the management here the story and they have allowed me to be late on the rent for a month. I am being very careful about everything.

I have much to say about the daily hammers and I am aware that I am not the only person experiencing them. This thread has its place especially for me. I intend to tell about all these hammers and get advice. I think people need to read about those who are really slamming it out, spirituality comes in many forms of not giving into ego, stupidity, cons etc. It is saying I made a mistake and there but for the grace of god go I.

[Mark]

Hey W4C, yeh you made a mistake alright, getting caught up in the same kind of con that got you the last time you posted about this kind of circumstance, someone coming to your door with a hard-luck story. I submit that if you lived in a poor white neighborhood with a lot of meth and crack fiends around, you would still be approached by people trying to con you. I submit, again, that it is not race, but economic circumstance. Fiends seem to have a "6th sense" for what they call marks. They can see if you have a kind soul in your eyes, demeanor and of course they can hear it in your voice.

Your fighting back in this instance is so commendable and yet such a shame that you would even have to do it. I'm glad you're ok. I would recommend you watching the eyes next time anybody gives you a hard-luck story. Watch the eyes and watch the demeanor, are they shuffling around, hands always busy? This will be the same no matter the race of the perpetrator.

You mentioned a law-suit above, is it against the city or the property-owner? It would not be totally out of bounds for either to send folks to 'scare' you but if you were leaving (for good or not) that makes little sense, as breaking in and destroying your home would have resulted in an easier and more effective way of scaring you than sending someone to either succeed or fail in "tricking" you into falling for their hard-luck story.

You brought the hammer down. Blessings, and hope you're still able to go on your trip.

[modwiz]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Try sticking a pin in a 9e9 voo doo doll, and it will wind up planted squarely in your own rear end, mark my words, Fred. No one with any sense would think of doing such a thing in 9's direction! *coughcoughmusiccough*

You've got to be kidding!
Why would anyone allow her to take such power over them.
You need to go back to school and learn how to defend yourself
on multidimensinal levels
and any other plane you hang out in.

(and please take the work 'you' in a nonpersonal way, Im talking to those she got the best of or tried to get the best of though her beligigerance)

9e9 met her limit here. She got canned. she has anger that she is not dealing with. she projects her anger on others to no great avail.
If you got trapped in her anger web, you can ignore her, you can react with anger, you can react with feelings of low self esteem, guilt, shame, you can react with centered consciousness...
but her mode of operation turned into anger . Shes got deep issues she hasn't resolved

she thinks shes got to take a hammer to people to wake them up
but that is a abusive approach
she doesnt know how to make any other approach effective.

and her attachments to outcome rule her.. she has to have you see it her way
cause she beleives her way is the only right way, which of courese makes you wrong,
your experience wrong, your path of learing wrong, your whole existence based on wrongness.

So she gets pissed off and takes out her hammer and slams you.

Did it feel good? Did it help? Did you learn? Are you healed?
are you transformed?


Its like an abusive parent who kicks a kid because he doesnt really know how to love a kid, teach a kid, allow a kid to 'be' into its own evolution.

Voodoo only works on those who are not energetically evovled and who dont have their chakra system working in unison.
She couldnt touch me with a 10 foot pole.

Dont get me wrong, 9e9, she's a very smart lady.. quick with words, can weave a tale, a good talker...
but the person she's been hurting most is herself for she feels self justified to be angry and to project it out to the world
to teach em all.

Good greif, Thank god some where were bright enough to try to call her on it or I would have lost all hope for this forum.

I never did confront her on the treads she took over. I did warn her once that her anger would get the best of her but she came back to me with a defence for her abusiveness.
Oh well. It was a battle I had no interest in really, at least to get involved in the heat of it. This is for those who felt she took liberties in their direction, either collectively or personally.

So there, my hammer for the day.

She did not get canned. It was a 2 week vacation. She has chosen to not return. BTW. Her daughter adores her and the relationship is one of the best I have seen with a teenager. I wish my almost 16 year old son was as helpful and supportive as with me her (9eagles) 16 year old daughter is of her. These two say, "I love you" at least once a day to each other. Simply put, 9eagle is a very kind and giving person.

I will say that I did not raise my son.

[ulli]

Posted by Camilo (here)
6 out of the 21 years I lived in the USA, I was a PI, and "surveillance" was one the most requested services by our clients. Some times I feel like something similar is going on here.

Surveillance is everywhere these days, and ultimately should not even be a big deal.
Where surveillance really counts, as far as effective change is goes, is in the most private arena...the surveillance of the self by oneself.
And there is very little of that.
But when a person finds their own strengths and weaknesses by being honest with themselves and start to build on the wanted parts and remove the unwanted aspects, that's when amazing powers can come through. But it is a private matter, one's own business, done in secret, away from the eyes of the world.
If done with diligence the results are spectacular and worth the effort.

[ulli]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy...w=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs uo for the hamster idea.

Urban legend which has nothing to do with hamsters.

[araucaria]

write4change, you have obviously been going through a great deal lately. I hope writing about it helps, not so much in the sense of getting it off your chest (although releasing anger is good too), but because writing is an excellent way of focussing your intention on refusing the negative and reinforcing the positive.

[ulli]

Posted by write4change (here)
I am now enscounced in my office after three weeks on the road and 3600 miles by myself. I could write a book about what I have learned about my country. I admit to being ego weak that taking the time to write and finding it not useful to others makes me stop. So overcoming that feeling is my first step to writing.

I have been reading all these threads and their relations and I am working up to addressing them. I like the idea of this hammer thread. I do not write on what is happening because it feels so fairy airy on a whole. I am not saying that is bad. I am saying my life is a daily hammer right now and I do not have what it takes to be either clever or beautiful. I am being slammed and I am slamming. I am also influenced by what people have to say.

The purpose of this reply is to explain for the first time where I am now. I wrote on Ulli's thread about being robbed on July 3rd by someone I let in my house who asked for my help. That person was an old black woman and I live in the hood of LA. I said I would never help another black person and I was told to rethink using such a broad brush. Which I did even though I have had six years of experience being white in the hood. I hate thinking of myself as a racist. But I cannot tell who is a good black person and who is not. I don't have the radar for the black con the way I have an instinct for bad white people.

So I have been preparing for the big trip to Texas--getting my car fixed in all ways which was a couple of thousand dollars but I had chosen to keep the old car in good repair rather than a newer used car I knew nothing about. I cannot afford a new one period.

I always feel watched in my neighborhood. They see me packing a lugging things to the garage. They see me packing up the car. At 68 I am slow. So the day before I am to leave this reasonably young black woman comes pounding on my door and crying her mother has collapsed and been taken to Centinnela hospital and could I please take her there and she will pay me 20 dollars etc. I decide this will kill two birds with one stone and I will drop her off and go to the 99 cent store and pick up ice and stuff for the trip. To make a long story shorter, she is directing me heither and yon and I am getting fed up. She has me drop her off at a school. What I don't realize is that while I turned my back to pick up my purse and things and she is standing in the doorway, she steals my extra car key and while we are in the car she asks for stuff which I say no and gages my reaction to her trying to reach things in the back seat. I have left the front seat vacant for the cat. I drop her off and go in the house to fix the stuff to leave for the trip. She uses the key to get in the car and takes my purse with 1900 dollars in it and my cell phone. My car has a computer key and I had just bought a second one to the tune of 125 dollars and I am not used to having it and so placed it by the door so I would not forget it. I wanted to buy a magnetic box to put it in--not in my purse. My car is so safe electronically that I feel it is safer than the house and why I left my purse in it.

So I am confronted with no money for the trip and she has my car key and can steal the car. I already know the police in LA will really do nothing. Their big money is made confiscating cars and auctioning them and crime of the poor on the poor holds no interest for them. So I decide to take the money that will pay the bills for September and go to Texas anyway and see if this is a fantasy or not.

While I was gone, whoever had my phone which was brand new and paid through November, called one of my friends three times. I did enough good on the trip to Texas that I was able to let it all go and just deal with the next steps. Sunday at 8PM I am sleeping on my couch with the windows and doors open but barred because it has been over a 100 for days and I am still recovering from the trip.

This woman bangs on my door. I turn on the light and I see it is the same woman who pulled the con and got my car key etc. As soon as I turn on the light she covers her face and asks me to turn out the light as it hurts her eyes. I am keeping the door closed. She starts on some tupper ware song and dance and I wonder what she is doing and I am acting disoriented from being woke up. And I know she thinks I am an easy mark now. Short story she offers me a silver colored medallion with a prayer on it for my key chain. I am interested in taking it to get her finger prints. I open the door to let my hand only out to receive it and she pulls it open and pepper sprays me in the face. I now know or feel this is a fight to the death--mine. The steel door is behind me and even though I am blind and in huge pain I push her out and try slamming the steel door closed. We are fighting back and forth with her trying to get in and me keeping her out. I cannot lock the door, she is preventing it somehow and I cannot keep it closed tightly. Things are breaking everywhere. I am spitting this stuff out of my mouth and I am finally able to start screaming and I am bellowing because I can hardly speak now. The screaming causes her to leave. I have no phone. None of my neighbors are home. I am running up and down the street blind screaming for someone to call 911.

When the EMTs come my blood pressure is 148 over 88 which is not bad for what I have done. There is a part of me that is proud that I beat her but I realize that she thought the pepper spray would do me in and I am not sure what she thought she would do after that. Was she prepared to beat me to death for stuff. She did feel the full fury of my will which I think she thought not possible. What she did get this time was my key chain with all my keys on it. Some of my black friends came and got me that night and drove my car off.

My black friends think this is a junkie and my white friends think this is all about the law suit and too coincidental. Because someone tried to kill me once over money and for a law suit. I have been preparing for this for a year which is why I have the downtown office in LA and there is no paper trail to it. I have told the management here the story and they have allowed me to be late on the rent for a month. I am being very careful about everything.

I have much to say about the daily hammers and I am aware that I am not the only person experiencing them. This thread has its place especially for me. I intend to tell about all these hammers and get advice. I think people need to read about those who are really slamming it out, spirituality comes in many forms of not giving into ego, stupidity, cons etc. It is saying I made a mistake and there but for the grace of god go I.

Several of the writers I've known have lives like that. At first I had no idea why they skidded from crisis to crisis, until one day the voice of God explained it to me.
"They are manifesting material to write about."
They were also manifesting me to be their savior.
One of them was living in flea-infested place and ended up using my chic apartment to write his column.
His job was to destabilize world famous rockstars who craved the publicity he provided them with, yet dreaded inviting him back to their mansions.
I would come home from work and find dirty peanut butter crusted knives and yoghurt pots littering the place.
Once he made some major mishap and left me a note with the excuse that his mother had died...
which a day later turned out to be a lie, I stopped the relationship. He went on to become a 'legendary" writer.

[modwiz]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by ulli (here)
This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy...w=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs uo for the hamster idea.

Urban legend which has nothing to do with hamsters.

My bad. Gerbils. I am sure of the urban legend part. Total bullsh!t can be useful for desperate attempts at bad humor.

[Rocky_Shorz]

walks in, puts a watermelon on a chair, grabs Gallagher's Mallet and smashes it into a billion bits spraying everyone in the room...


it was that or a banker...

[CD7]

Especially on a forum which deals with fringe issues.

Hey, maybe this thread should be given a new name?
The Blurred Line.

That could appease Fred and Anchor and PurpleLama sufficiently to bring them back?

LOL!!! Yes.....uh ummmmm (clears throat) INTROducing.....dadadadadadda...... THE BLURRRED LINE



Yes good to me..this thread has blurred into many different areas just within 24 hours hahahahahaha.....AND GUESS WHAT...i dont know who the hell 9eagle9 is!!!!

[write4change]

Wow! Ulli. You put up the hammer thread which looks to me like an invitation to include the other side. I read your what's happening thread but don't post because I don't feel its appropriate. Then I get hammered for being hammered? And the sly question about if this even true? What's with that?

For the moment you sound like Romney. You have a beautiful life and I am glad you were able to manifest that for yourself but you judgment feels like prosperity christianity. If you are having problems it is something your are attracting etc. You choose to die etc. I am always divided within myself about these issues because there is an element of truth in both sides. I work very hard to discern for myself some with more success than others. But I rarely go there for others, especially in this format, which is hardly condusive to the whole picture.

When I was practicing as a nurse in oncology, I saw a lot of people live who should have died and vice versa. During this trip I had a lot of people say they thought I was about 55, and it counted for something because they were complete strangers. I have never had complete certainty of who I see in the mirror. I am not sure I have had certainty of anything. As a nurse, I could never say to someone you are choosing to die but it may not be conscious to you, and yet, it sometimes felt that way. But I am not in that body nor that soul and I can never know that experience. I have to allow it to be, and yet, I believe there is a reason for everything and there is an intelligence to this universe that is beyond my or anyone else's comprehension.

Essentially, I function like life is just a big game. Never take it or myself too seriously. Play to win but how I play the game is everything.

[ulli]

Posted by write4change (here)
Wow! Ulli. You put up the hammer thread which looks to me like an invitation to include the other side. I read your what's happening thread but don't post because I don't feel its appropriate. Then I get hammered for being hammered? And the sly question about if this even true? What's with that?

For the moment you sound like Romney. You have a beautiful life and I am glad you were able to manifest that for yourself but you judgment feels like prosperity christianity. If you are having problems it is something your are attracting etc. You choose to die etc. I am always divided within myself about these issues because there is an element of truth in both sides. I work very hard to discern for myself some with more success than others. But I rarely go there for others, especially in this format, which is hardly condusive to the whole picture.

When I was practicing as a nurse in oncology, I saw a lot of people live who should have died and vice versa. During this trip I had a lot of people say they thought I was about 55, and it counted for something because they were complete strangers. I have never had complete certainty of who I see in the mirror. I am not sure I have had certainty of anything. As a nurse, I could never say to someone you are choosing to die but it may not be conscious to you, and yet, it sometimes felt that way. But I am not in that body nor that soul and I can never know that experience. I have to allow it to be, and yet, I believe there is a reason for everything and there is an intelligence to this universe that is beyond my or anyone else's comprehension.

Essentially, I function like life is just a big game. Never take it or myself too seriously. Play to win but how I play the game is everything.

It's just my alter ego that's all. There is a part of me that wants to cut to the essence of any given matter...

But you gave your answer...you take life as a big game.
and this is where we differ.
I started to take life seriously when I discovered how painful it could be.
I also avoid duality party politics like the plague.

[write4change]

I said I function like life is a big game. When my daughter died at 13 and ten months, I was in such in expressable pain that I became a recluse for ten years. I am so aware of pain that I try not to jump off on any one for anything so I cause no more of it. Or if what I say will inflict pain was it worth the price.

Modwiz recently did and shared some self reflection on the quick and clever response which can be very hibituating. It is something I wish this whole forum would reflect on.

[Swan]

Removing this since it is not helpful.