David Icke: do you trust him or not?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by davewhite04 (here)
genuine or not

i think not purely being because even his site contains an advert on how to become rich, you have to pay to see the videos mind...

Posted by davewhite04 (here)

Posted by Chinaski (here)
David Icke is a good man.

I 100% agree with this.

Please explain how you can write these two contradictory posts -- separated by just one hour and ten minutes.

[mahalall]

Any Avalon's fancy meeting up for a reflective curry after the Wembley Gig ?

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...ober-27th-2012


"David's unflinching and remarkable commitment to his cause has made life far easier for many who have come after him-including ourselves. We owe him our own vote of thanks..." Project Camelot as quoted from Human Race get off your Knees. The Lion Sleeps No More.

[Vitalux]

Posted by davewhite04 (here)
Hi,

I'm interested how you think he is closer to the truth then most of us are?

Thanks

My statement is based on deductive reasoning as well as spending a great deal of time watching his videos.
Although, I have not read any of his books, I find merit with his ideas.

But to answer your question with an easy answer, David Icke has a lot of time to ponder, and research what is reality.
This is his full time occupation has been for many many years.
David is not afraid to speak out and ask questions.

Most of us, are not full time reality researchers.
Most of us are too afraid to speak out or ask questions.
Most of our curiosity only extends are far as an Avalon Forum or browsing the internet.

[davewhite04]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by davewhite04 (here)
genuine or not

i think not purely being because even his site contains an advert on how to become rich, you have to pay to see the videos mind...

Posted by davewhite04 (here)

Posted by Chinaski (here)
David Icke is a good man.

I 100% agree with this.

Please explain how you can write these two contradictory posts -- separated by just one hour and ten minutes.

I see your point. I'm just wondering if his work is genuinely useful or not.

You can still be a good person, and believe you're making a difference, doesn't mean his work is genuine. He thinks it is which doesn't make him a bad person, but it also doesn't make his work automatically genuine important information.

Can anyone direct me to more of his up to date videos on youtube please?

[davewhite04]

Posted by Vitalux (here)

Posted by davewhite04 (here)
Hi,

I'm interested how you think he is closer to the truth then most of us are?

Thanks

My statement is based on deductive reasoning as well as spending a great deal of time watching his videos.
Although, I have not read any of his books, I find merit with his ideas.

But to answer your question with an easy answer, David Icke has a lot of time to ponder, and research what is reality.
This is his full time occupation has been for many many years.
David is not afraid to speak out and ask questions.

Most of us, are not full time reality researchers.
Most of us are too afraid to speak out or ask questions.
Most of our curiosity only extends are far as an Avalon Forum or browsing the internet.

I understand, thanks

[truth4me]

David Icke resonates with me and I watch his videos whenever I see a new one.

[RunningDeer]

I purchase David Icke's books because it's my way to say thank you for assisting me in waking up.
I will never understand how people question why someone should not get paid for their time, and energy?

These are some of my bulletin note on my desk top from one of his most recent vids:

-Rather than finding a solution to the problem…you remove the cause of the problem. (finger in boiling water: end flame by turning off gas or just lift finger out)

-They (archons) have no creative energy. They can't make things happen. We can manifest. What this manipulative force has done has programed humans to use that gift of manifestation to manifest what they (archons) want.

-Holographic Reality (we live in this conscious mind level) = Every part of the whole is a smaller version of the whole. Cut something into 4 parts and you don't get quarter portion, you get 4 smaller versions. Reflexology works because out body is holographic. Each bit is a smaller version of the whole body.

-This is why religion and science was created, to keep us in division and turmoil.

- REMOVE THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM (outside the matrix), CHANGE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM

-self identity I am an American - NO, that is your experience. What you are Infinite Awareness, all possibility, always was, always will be, having "that" experience. Don't self-identify.

-WHAT WE NEED: Open to let Higher Consciousness in. Clean slate. All preconceived ideas, beliefs, perceptions and realities set aside. What goes on that sheet of paper in terms of my perception of reality come from: information, innate knowing i.e., does it feel right, it's standing up on the basis of credible information and intuitive knowing.

- It's vibrating beyond the frequency of light. Energy way form. Energetic orange chakra vs. heart chakra which their energetic forms can't survive.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[davewhite04]

Posted by truth4me (here)
David Icke resonates with me and I watch his videos whenever I see a new one.

He has said things that no one else has, and it blew my mind when I first read it, that's why I always checkout his website now and again. It seemed strange having an advert telling you how you can get rich when the banks crash in 2012 on his homepage.

[Cartomancer]

I Trust him. I don't buy everything he says and I don't think that matters. If anyone researches any subject matter they are going to come up with some things certain people won't buy. That never stops me from appreciating what someone has to say. He is a voice of freedom loving people everywhere. He is a gifted speaker and has the personality get his point across. I don't begrudge the fact that he gets paid for what he does. Doing his thing takes a vast amount of time and planning, travel etc. You can't do that with no money.

David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, and Freeman helped me to understand occult symbology and methods. This alone will open your eyes eventually to what is going on. From there on its up to you.

[davewhite04]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
I Trust him. I don't buy everything he says and I don't think that matters. If anyone researches any subject matter they are going to come up with some things certain people won't buy. That never stops me from appreciating what someone has to say. He is a voice of freedom loving people everywhere. He is a gifted speaker and has the personality get his point across. I don't begrudge the fact that he gets paid for what he does. Doing his thing takes a vast amount of time and planning, travel etc. You can't do that with no money.

David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, and Freeman helped me to understand occult symbology and methods. This alone will open your eyes eventually to what is going on. From there on its up to you.

I don't begrudge him making a living, everyone has to. But what message is he sending out when he advertises a guy who can make you rich when a bank crisis happens in 2012? Maybe it is just me, but it made me create a thread to see what others thought.

[cloud9]

David Icke is a pioneer in my book, as every one of us, he has his version of reality which I share to a certain point. I believe he's a good and sincere man.

[AriG]

He is without question, one of the most honest and decent people on the planet. I'd trust him with my life ( if need be)

[Carmody]

Posted by davewhite04 (here)

Posted by truth4me (here)
David Icke resonates with me and I watch his videos whenever I see a new one.

He has said things that no one else has, and it blew my mind when I first read it, that's why I always checkout his website now and again. It seemed strange having an advert telling you how you can get rich when the banks crash in 2012 on his homepage.

They are paying him to advertise there. oddly enough, just about zero of the people who go to his website would believe the advertized horsepucky. So David makes money off the advertiser's ignorance of David's customer base. Not David's problem....

Something has to finance his website.

You'd be surprised how much it costs to run a website like Avalon, here. Do you see any advertising?

for example I WISH PEOPLE WOULD CUT THEIR BEHAVIOR of re-posting big posts with complex linkage and imagery ....from the given post they are quoting. have some respect, folks. This stuff is not free, even though it is cheaper than it used to be. Data rates are going up, as costs come down, so it evens out that it is still expensive.

For example, all these folks who think they have to go to pirate sites and download High definition copies of every movie ever made. Each of them trying to do that. It's utterly ridiculous.

As for trusting David? I was introduced to his first published book, near the time it was published. I ignored it. I returned later on, about 5 books in for David. I'm aware of most of what he has ever published and I'd gladly pay to see him. If I was traveling to the UK, or anywhere in Europe, for that matter...I'd try and schedule the visit for one of his showings.

David is fearless... as he has to be.... as you need to be as in - yesterday.

In any battle like this, you tend to loose your best first, as they understand that they must hold the line, until the laggards wake up. pretty damn sad, if you ask me.

[RunningDeer]

"Project Avalon Video: David Icke and Jordan Maxwell in Conversation"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM

Here are the rough notes.

- Vibrational quickening carries a new higher level of knowledge, awareness, understanding. Not only us but the whole universe is effected by the vibrational changed.

- It’s about some humans waking up to it. Called humans because we’re just consciousness, humans just a program on this planet, have come here, to play a major part in removing that (dark off world), by removing it’s vibrational blueprint. But these other forces in the unseen are gonna sort that overwhelmingly. And those within this reality are gonna play a part, with that level of awareness, in doing that. Because unless that is done, then the control system goes on, because that which has controlled up to this point will still go on controlling. But it’s not going to. It’s gonna have the shock of its life. Because, have the way I see it, it’s all I can say: the way I see it, but - they put humans in a box smaller than they’re in, so humans have a certain perspective. Not a very wide perspective. If you’re only there, and that’s where it’s meant to be from the control system point of view, then you have another level of awareness, which is the entities controlling. And from that level of awareness, the continuation and expansion of the control system is a done deal. They actually think it’s just gonna play out, they think they’re there, they think the game is over. But there’s another level of awareness which that - the control system level - cannot access; which has got a whole different outcome manifesting, and this level is impacting more and more into what we call human society. And somewhere, not a lot further along this road if you like, it’s gonna massively impact,this tipping point I’m talking about and the control system, which thinks it’s game over, is going to have the shock of its eternity.

- You know I’ve been through this whole last 20 years of my conscious awakening to this, and there have been times through the 1990’s and whatever, when I thought: What can we do about this? What’s it meaning? You know, you can’t see an answer to it. But I’ll tell you what: I’ve never been so totally sure that in my lifetime it’s coming down. Our kids and grandkids are not gonna live in an Orwellian fascist control system, they’re not. They’re gonna live out most of their lives in a world of potential, of expanded awareness. Because as the epoch changes it gets more and more that the Truth Vibrations will dominate awareness rather than the suppressed epoch we’re coming out of. And they’re gonna live out most of their ives, young people today, especially the very young, in what we would perceive in this epoch as a paradise, a utopia, compared - there will be challenges, but compared with... Yes. ...what we’ve come through. And we are real privileged people, and we’ve chosen well. When I say “we” I mean everyone in the world today who wants to play a part in this, because it’s just a choice. We’re at the cusp but we’re playing a part, and anyone can play a in this transformation. What a wonderful thing. What a wonderful thing, when we leave this body-computer, this genetic spacesuit, and we go back to where we’ve come from, in pure awareness. And we sit in the bar, and we think: Job well done! I’m glad I did that. And the worst thing that can happen to us when we are making this contribution, if we allow ourselves to decode it, is someone takes us out. Now, if someone takes us out, now what happens? My awareness leaves the limitation of the body lens, the body-computer, and expands into simultaneous awareness of All Tat is. Phew, dear, I’m terrified of that one! It’s the worst that can happen! And if we can just come from that perspective and, therefore, see that as the worst that can happen, then there are no limitations any more on what we will say and what we will do. We will do what we know to be right, we’ll say what we know to be right, and consequences can take are of themselves. Because in the end, we are saying, and we are doing, but we’re also creating the consequences of saying and doing...We have the power to control both! And when we realize that: game over, the other way.

- If we follow that quiet voice from within we see the game from source to sea. If we can’t, then we’re stuck in five-sense mind reality which can see the next turn on the river. So this is the challenge for us. If we can follow that intuitive knowing, like you clearly did by reflex action, (Jordan Maxwell story get out you are in danger) then we’ll never get into trouble. And if we do get into trouble, we’ll always get out of it, and this applies to everyone on the planet. But because intuition comes from a totally different level of awareness and perception of this reality, what it’s urging us to do often this (human) which is programmed from cradle to grave to see life as we’re programmed to see it - it’s going: “You can’t do that. You got us crazy. No, we can’t do that. What about ...” It lists all the reasons why you shouldn’t follow this (hand pointed to heart). If we do, not only will we be protected as we’ve talked about, but we’ll also be guided to fantastic amounts of information which are waiting for us if we follow that, that this is telling you: “You shouldn’t go there tomorrow. You’ve got an appointment...” But you do go and when you do, something is there which give you a massive insight that this (pointing to brain/reasoning) would have denied you had you gone with it. And most people because of the programming, are welded to this reality. And therefore they go round and round in this circular get up, watch TV... go to bed, get up. That’s what mind does. It loves this kind of repetition. Intuition: “flow”, intuition “flow” with higher levels of awareness. Source to sea, awareness.

- And suddenly when you do that, your life becomes incredibly synchronistic. Amazing coincidences and ... miracles happen. I mean, you know, we’ve all had experiences, haven’t we? And it’s open to everybody to do that, as long as you let the head intellect “serve” consciousness (hands by heart) instead of govern. The way I put it is, when you follow intuition, you live life. When you follow mind alone, life lives you, which is happens with most people. Yes. And so, you have access to this incredible library of knowledge, this incredible library of guidance, and it’s not the “chosen ones”. It’s those which are willing to open their minds to access that level of knowledge. It’s not a club. You don’t need a log-in code name. It’s sitting there, in the space that we are now experiencing. All we have to do is open up. It’s like I said earlier: instead of saying when’s the cavalry coming, when are we going to the ca val ry?

- Dark force, they are another level of this energetic playing out. You know, they are attached... I mean, we think we’re human and we... it’s just one species of existence within five-sense reality, but there are other non-human entities that can take other forms and are also subject to the choice between which of these energetic states, these consciousness state, are they going to choose? So, it’s all playing out. So when you say about... what I meant by a quiet voice, the quiet voice talks to you quietly, but when you are in trouble, like you appeared to have been, it can grab you by the bloody collar and launch you out there. You know, my feeling is, the more I kind of understand this, is this guidance of those that are playing a part in this transformation, it’s much more powerful than we realize, and it’s much closer to us than we realize. But we don’t really become totally aware of it until there is a panic station situation, and suddenly, “boom” it says: “This is going to happen.” Because it it was a case of we coming here to try to make a contribution, and then people trying to stop us can come up and go “Bang, bang, thank you very much”, “you know, mine’s the large one”, what’s the point of us coming? So there is a very, very powerful force which is there for those that have come to play a part, and at its most extreme, it can yank you out of a dangerous situation.

- What I’m saying that the base construct of everything is consciousness, and there is a changing of the guard in terms of the energetic state of awareness in this reality. We’re at this cusp. Of course, on one level, it’s pure energy, it’s pure awareness. But as it comes down the levels, that expresses itself in different ways. So on the human level, you’ve got people who are awakening, and people who are still closed. You’ve got people that want kindness and peace in the world, and you’ve got people that want to control and manipulate and exploit and parasite off. And one of these levels, it takes the other worldly level, which is of non-human entities, in this tussle for either control of this reality or benevolent protection of this reality. And they, too, are expressions of energetic epoch change. It’s just which level of it are we looking at. So what I’m saying about this military kind of battle (Jordan’s view) battle, if you like, is absolutely the same. Because on one level that is what’s happening, because it’s an expression this change. Because it’s expressing itself in so many different ways and that is one of them and it is fundamentally affecting this one, which is the human level, because of what’s going on there. What I’m saying is that because this energetic transformation, this expanded awareness is now coming in, as it becomes more powerful and the tipping point comes where the old epoch energy is replaced by the new epoch energy as the dominant on in the reality, then all these then all these different levels of malevolence, whether they be non-human, alien, or as we call them down into the parasite world, their day’s over. But it’s not over yet, and and like I say for a while, this is really gonna be challenging. There’s gonna be great upheavals, because we’re not in the new epoch. We’re at the cusp of the changeover, and this is the this is the most chaotic and difficult and most challenging. And so there are all these levels. We’re gonna see amazing things going on, and there’s definitely what you might call battles going on, on this non-human level. Absolutely.

- The black holes like the one in the center of this galaxy are vibrating the base vibrational state of this reality. But it’s not stable in the sense that it doesn’t just stay forever vibrating in the same way. It goes through a cycle, and so it goes through this vibrational cycle and eventually it comes back to the start. And in the play out holographic world, it kind of seems to take the form, because of the way we decode it, is what I call a Time Loop. It’s what the Asian, the Indian people call “yugas”. They’re different yugas. And as the black hole vibrate this base vibrational construct, this base vibrational foundation, it triggers information form the suns to be transmitted in the form of photons. Photon energy which is information. And the energy going through the acupuncture lines, the meridians, is photon energy, as we decode that information. The Earth’s energy grid has photon energy going through the grid, as the “earth” decodes that information. And as this vibration changes, and whoever created this virtual reality universe - in other words, this massively advanced computer game - they created this vibrational cycle. And as it goes through its cycle, the information coming from the suns in the photon energy changes, and so, and we’re decoding this change. So we go through periods of what the ancients call the Golden Age, when there’s massive expansion of awareness, and connection and harmony and all the rest of it; and then there are other periods where the energy, the information is much more suppressed and limited. And these different cycles go until it come back from the start and the whole thing starts again.

- So, consciousness... you know.... At the end of the day for me, when we are at the realm of consciousness, pure consciousness, we see this whole game completely different. We’re seeing it through the lens of what we call the physical body and there we’re seeing it a certain way, and it focuses our attention in the five-sense world which is when we look out of our eyes, or think we do, and see this world and it’s our base main prime sense of reality. But before we choose to come into, not that it’s necessarily in, but that ... get too detailed here - before we choose to come in, that level of choice is made by consciousness in awareness of itself. Disembodied awareness. When we come into this reality, we are trying to perceive why we’re here and why we would choose to be here, if people believe that’s what we do - I certainly do. We’re trying understand the choice through the limited lens of the body. A choice make when we were in a state of consciousness. It’s like the Oracle in “The Matrix” where she says: “You’ve not come here to make the choice. You’ve already made the choice. What you’ve come here to do is to understand “why” you made the choice” And so you’ll say to people: “Well, you know, there’s not someone on another level with an AK-47 saying “Get in that body or I shoot.” “You” chose to be here, so if you chose to be here, why did you choose to be here? And sometimes, we chose to come in certain parts of this changing epoch for really bi challenges which in an embodies sense, for one of a term, we’d go: “I chose to do this?” “You must be having a laugh!”

- And I feel that what this epoch change is that I’m talking about, in this vibration is now moving from one period of this time loop into another period of this time loop. And through this period of suppression, of what we would call darkness and limitation and control, a certain consciousness - because the base state was so applicable and supportive of it - has been dominant. But now as we go into another epoch of a greater expansion, the vibrational foundation of this reality is no longer, increasingly by the hour and by the day, supportive of that awareness consciousness in all its forms, whether it’s aliens in spaceships or whether it’s pure consciousness or whether it’s humans manipulating humans. It’s no longer supportive of that awareness. And as we move further and further through the cusp where there is a changeover and both are active like we are now, into where the new epoch energy will be the dominant one - as that has been up to this point - then that that which as been manipulating here, will not be able to manipulate there, because the energetic environment will not be in any way conducive to it. What we’ve got now, and this comes back to your point about this kind of military war going on, on the kind of “Star Wars” level of it - I absolutely agree with you - is that, because we’re in the changeover, this stuff is now.... we’re getting both, we’re getting both!

- And the tussle is on, because up to this point, what you call the dark forces, the manipulative controlling forces, they’ve been playing at home. They’ve been the dominant force. Now it ain’t happening any more, there’s somebody else is coming in, so we’ve got this war going on. And it’s not that this level of the benevolent alien has suddenly manifested and appeared for the first time - it’s been in existence all the way through this! - but it’s not been in a conducive energetic environment to impose itself on this reality. Now, increasingly it is, and so we’re now seeing the two and the tussle. But the tussle is a done deal because the energetic environment is no longer conducive to this. So something different must change. And that’s why what we call the future - which is not really the future, it’s just the changing energetic environment - is one that is going to be very different to this one. And yes there is a tussle going on, yes there is a battle going on, but the outcome’s a done deal.

- There're (dark forces) energetic preeminence through this period is now having the rug pulled from under them, because we’re going into a new energetic epoch. And these are very low vibrational entities. You know, they’re very clever but they have no wisdom. They have no wisdom, otherwise they wouldn’t do what they do, but they’re very, very clever, and cleverness without wisdom is the most destructive force you can come across, which is why they’ve very, very destructive. So they have been clever, and they’ve used technology and stuff... You know you can get very advanced technology in these intellectual states, but the intellectual state is a very low level of awareness, and as we’re moving into this new energetic epoch, their ability to dominate, as they have, that rug is being pulled from under them. But like I say, in this changeover, that tussle your talking about between those reptilian entities and those which are seeking to remove their control of humanity all this time, they are together in what we’d call a battle. But what I’m saying is that the outcome is a done deal.

- What I’m saying is that that war or battle is an “expression” of the consciousness epoch that is manifested, has manifest itself as these control freaks, reptilian entities. And the consciousness change that’s coming, this epoch energetic change that’s coming, that it manifests as those that “don’t” all want to control. And at the moment, because we’re on the cusp, we’ve got this battle, at the level. And it manifests down into the human experience as the Illuminati families, representatives of this reptilian control system, and those who are representative of the epoch energetic change.

- That is, if you like... I don’t want to battle with anyone, I don’t want to fight anyone - what you fight, you become - but using the terms that you are, and the things you’re using: that battle, “here”, is manifesting as a battle “here”, but the energetic change will eventually wash away that which are manifestations of the old energetic blueprint. And that’s why our kids and grandkids are not going to live in a fascist global state, although for a few years it is going to look like that, because we’re at the cusp and the ... They’re going to try fighting it, yes... control system is going to be kicking and spitting and trying to impose itself for the next few years. But, sorry guys: have a cup of tea, forget it, open your bloody minds, stop trying to control - because there’s nothing to worry about, because you’re infinite consciousness anyway and just get on the air bed and flow with the bloody new energy. Stop fighting, don’t be silly! You know... I don’t fear these entities. I feel for them. I feel for them. And imagine, imagine waking up in the morning and realizing that they’re still the, terrified of everything, terrified of their food source, terrified of their resource source. All dependent on humans staying asleep. And we ain’t staying asleep, vast numbers aren’t anyway. So they’re going to wake up and even more fearful, with every passing week, that their food source and their control system and their means is more and more under threat from an awakening humanity.

- I mean, beauty, rather you than me guys. Come and join us, let’s have a beer. Stop being so silly. That’s what I say. As people awaken and expand their consciousness and we go into this epoch, this expanded epoch, this higher vibrational epoch, then humanity is gonna be moving into vibrational states - more and more people are - where these vampires of the old epoch, they cannot make the connection anymore and they lose their power source. It’s an incredible change in the global, indeed the reality energy dynamic, from this to this, and it’s going to transform the reality that we now perceive into something extraordinary, incredible, amazing, for our children and grandchildren who will spend most of their lives enjoying.

(Jordan Maxwell, still talking about the bad on this planet.) Camera Man breaks in with: And you are from somewhere else as well. Most of the people watching this video are probably from somewhere else. The pawns in the world are the people who you have sometimes made reference to who don’t have a clue about what’s going on. But there are many who are realizing actually that they, too, are also from somewhere else, metaphorically or literally, and they’re the cavalry that we’ve been waiting for. We’re all here. The cavalry are already here. We just go to wake up.

Now back to David Icke: See, I think that the big picture is that we’re all from everywhere. You got this infinite consciousness, the infinite all, All That Is, has been and ever will be, ever can be. All Possibility. The silent all. Everything and nothing. Everywhere and nowhere. All Possibility. That’s the core of all of us. And as we experience these different cosmic games, we perceive - in increasing senses of limitation compared with he core of our being, All Possibility, what I call “Infinite Love” - we perceive ourselves to be from here, or from there, or from wherever. What planet do you come from? When actually, we’re everything that is, has been and ever will be. And that applies to the forces people call evil, it applies to the forces call good. The difference between those two is merely their “point of observation” of reality, at the point they’re observing.

- And it’s like - I don’t quote the Bible very much, I’m famous for it (chuckles), but -the prodigal son. The son goes out, causes this and he’s suppose to be a bad son; and the good son that doesn’t leave the father is the good son. But then the prodigal son come back, and the father welcomes him with the same love, affection, as he has for good son that staying with him, symbolically didn’t go out into the dark world, the dark level. And that’s what we’re playing. This cosmic game, which through the lenses of physical bodies, or what we perceive as physical bodies, it affects fundamentally our point of observation. And a reptilian in terrible fear of not surviving and therefore have to control everything, but I’m afraid of surviving and “all that stuff”, is a point of observation. Avery desperately, limited, dense, rather pathetic and more than that; sad point of observation of self in the world. But in the end, all will be gathered in. All will be gathered in. And that which is currently considered evil, and that which is currently considered good and enlightenment, eventually will remember that it is simply All Possibility having an experience. And the more you expand your consciousness and awareness to understand that “that” is what we are, the more your point of observation goes from the size of a pea

“I am Ethel Jones, I am a reptilian and I need to manipulate people” - to “I am All That is having an experience and I can have this experience”, but I “know” what is having the experience. I’ve not fallen for the Illusion that I “am” the experience. These reptilian entities think that they are their experience, that’s why they’re so limited and rather pathetic. They have manipulated humanity to believe they are their experience. What is happening as this epoch change goes on, is more and more people are remembering that they’re “not” their experience, that they are “having” an experience but what they are is something different. And as that shift takes place, there is a massive energetic shift takes place, and the ability of “that” level of awareness - the controlling system up to this point - to go on controlling ... house of cards is over. It’s gone, it’s gone. Can’t do it any more. And that’s what we’re experiencing. A fantastic time to be alive, by the way!

[davewhite04]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

"Project Avalon Video: David Icke and Jordan Maxwell in Conversation"

Here are the rough notes.

Seen the video, interesting and enjoyable. Thanks for a great response

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Chinaski (here)
trust as it applies to people i don't know personally, sure. would i give him my bank account numbers? no. (though it *would* be entertaining watching him try to spend the -$13.67 i have in my checking acct at the moment.)

"hey guys, i had to briefly come out of semi-posting retirement to share this clip with you. i went to the bank today and actually had negative 10 dollars(-$10.57 to be precise)…"

Not bad from, June 15, 2012. That's an average of about $1 a month. ($3.10 more in the hole today than the beginning of summer)

Just a non-stalking observation.

L,
Paula

[mosquito]

David Icke has done more than anyone alive to awaken people from their slumber. He has enormous courage and persistence and doesn't baulk at presenting the information as he sees it, right or wrong. How many of us have that courage ? I certainly don't.

Uniquely, most of his predictions have come to pass but perhaps not in the originally posited timeframe.

I don't necessarily believe everything he says, but then I don't believe every single word anyone says, even myself !!!

There's a big difference between his website, which strikes me as just another America-America site, and his interviews. Many a time I've found an interview online which has inspired me, and inidirectly it's how I found my way to Avalon (watched his Camelot interview and thought the bloke in the hat seemed genuine).

In short, he's a beacon, and there are many people attempting to fill his shoes, which I fear no-one ever will. If we haven't managed to save the future for our children within the next 20 years (I can't see David going on longer than that) then we are seriously screwed.

What I'd like to see is someone who has David's Passion and courage, tinged with some more, how can I put it, conventional analytical skills, pick up the torch and draw David's research together with modern scientific research. Someone like Graham Hancock springs to mind, or dare I say it ....... Bill Ryan.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Carmody (here)
for example I WISH PEOPLE WOULD CUT THEIR BEHAVIOR of re-posting big posts with complex linkage and imagery ....from the given post they are quoting. have some respect, folks. This stuff is not free, even though it is cheaper than it used to be. Data rates are going up, as costs come down, so it evens out that it is still expensive.

Disk space is cheap enough - the space needed for the entire website, including multiple geographically distributed backups, costs perhaps a few hundred dollars per year. The compute power, web hosting services and network bandwidth also cost, of course, but are sold in sufficiently large increments that these costs are for all practical purposes constant, for any work load our forum is likely to generate.

The key expense I worry about is the mental bandwidth of forum members and readers. We strive to keep the forum content useful and interesting, in order that as many people as possible may find as much of value here, in various ways, as we are able.

[Carmody]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
for example I WISH PEOPLE WOULD CUT THEIR BEHAVIOR of re-posting big posts with complex linkage and imagery ....from the given post they are quoting. have some respect, folks. This stuff is not free, even though it is cheaper than it used to be. Data rates are going up, as costs come down, so it evens out that it is still expensive.

Disk space is cheap enough - the space needed for the entire website, including multiple geographically distributed backups, costs perhaps a few hundred dollars per year. The compute power, web hosting services and network bandwidth also cost, of course, but are sold in sufficiently large increments that these costs are for all practical purposes constant, for any work load our forum is likely to generate.

The key expense I worry about is the mental bandwidth of forum members and readers. We strive to keep the forum content useful and interesting, in order that as many people as possible may find as much of value here, in various ways, as we are able.

Good, glad to hear that. I've seen some pretty high costs associated with websites, so their numbers must have been appreciably different than this one here. In one company, I had paid at least $50k toward the constantly evolving website and it's design. Now, to a large degree, someone else is benefiting from that cost and work. (mutter mutter, grumble grumble)

[Chip]

I've followed David's journey through the years and can relate to very similar spiritual circumstances that have happened to me in my life.
I am thankful for people like him. We truly won't know how important these brave souls are until later.
I'm glad I can see the importance now. In the days to come there will be plenty more David Ickes'.
Through the mass awakening the window is wide open.