Here and Now...What's Happening?

[Carmody]

Careful about one hole on the corner. What will happen is that single notes will be emphasized, and others will go MIA. The trick is to port along lines, to maintain back pressure in a more uniform way. Three slits (oblong) that are aimed toward where the soundhole would normally be, will do the trick. The holes might also be oblong in slightly different ways. Aim for same surface area as a single would be, divided among the three. (still in corner, extending away from) (My professional educated guess)

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Careful about one hole on the corner. What will happen is that single notes will be emphasized, and others will go MIA. The trick is to port along lines, to maintain back pressure in a more uniform way. Three slits (oblong) that are aimed toward where the soundhole would normally be, will do the trick. The holes might also be oblong in slightly different ways. Aim for same surface area as a single would be, divided among the three. (still in corner, extending away from) (My professional educated guess)

Hi Carmody, I had already decided I don't want to do the bell-shaped soundhole - partially because I just could never fall in love with it aesthetically, and partially because having done one elliptical soundhole with a burl soundhole rosette, I know it will be a lot of trouble to make (which I would only undertake if I really loved the idea.)

Currently in mind are three possibilities:

• no soundhole at all in the top,
• a single, small (maybe 2" dia.?), round soundhole (in the cutaway "horn" area),
• or a variant of the second with the addition of a set of graduated holes above it, getting smaller as they go back toward the rear of the guitar.

The guitar will have side port(s) so a hole in the top is not necessary - as you may already know, the sound from an acoustic guitar comes from the entire top surface, not "out" the soundhole. The soundhole(s) size and the interior volume do create a specific frequency (Helmholtz resonance), but even a quick experiment with any acoustic guitar and a piece of cardboard to cover part of the hole shows it is not anywhere near a dominating characteristic of the overall sound of the instrument.

You'd probably love to make guitars and test out all the ideas that pop into your head - and I'd love to hear them!

Dennis

[Carmody]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Careful about one hole on the corner. What will happen is that single notes will be emphasized, and others will go MIA. The trick is to port along lines, to maintain back pressure in a more uniform way. Three slits (oblong) that are aimed toward where the soundhole would normally be, will do the trick. The holes might also be oblong in slightly different ways. Aim for same surface area as a single would be, divided among the three. (still in corner, extending away from) (My professional educated guess)

Hi Carmody, I had already decided I don't want to do the bell-shaped soundhole - partially because I just could never fall in love with it aesthetically, and partially because having done one elliptical soundhole with a burl soundhole rosette, I know it will be a lot of trouble to make (which I would only undertake if I really loved the idea.)

Currently in mind are three possibilities:

• no soundhole at all in the top,
• a single, small (maybe 2" dia.?), round soundhole (in the cutaway "horn" area),
• or a variant of the second with the addition of a set of graduated holes above it, getting smaller as they go back toward the rear of the guitar.

The guitar will have side port(s) so a hole in the top is not necessary - as you may already know, the sound from an acoustic guitar comes from the entire top surface, not "out" the soundhole. The soundhole(s) size and the interior volume do create a specific frequency (Helmholtz resonance), but even a quick experiment with any acoustic guitar and a piece of cardboard to cover part of the hole shows it is not anywhere near a dominating characteristic of the overall sound of the instrument.

You'd probably love to make guitars and test out all the ideas that pop into your head - and I'd love to hear them!

Dennis

Yes I would. But I know no Luthier who is patient enough....

The issue is the 'bass' loading. Which is a pressure zone thing. In that case, the corner is sorta fine, but overtone and harmonic mixing make a corner hole problematic, for the higher notes on the higher strings. Leading edge function of notes, meaning soft or hard, can be affected by sound hole location as will harmonic blending (as variance instead of evenness). The centralized hole tends to take care of most of that. Long story, and gets into cutting edge work I'm not supposed to be sharing....

Let's just say that the empirical trials of getting to the shape of what is on a orchestral string instrument ....what they ended up with, is there as a shape and hole, due to a need for evenness in expression across all mechanical and acoustical pressure/loading/resonance.

The string instrument for hand is more transient oriented and the stringed instrument for orchestral use is more resonance (continual note/loudness) oriented. One transient and resonant, the other, all coke bottle resonance, but even...with all notes.

The acoustic guitar is actually the harder to execute, as a new design, or even as an established one.

[donk]

Got a ton of homework to do!!

OK---so some of the stuff I'm reading about the things you pointed out from my chart send shivers up my spine...good stuff. I am sure it has been discussed and posted and written over and over, so perhaps someone can save me some time and point me to a good resource for my question:

Where did this information come from? As in specific assocaitions of personal details/attributes generally agreed upon among astologically minded people with positions of astronomical bodies? Is there some sort of "astrology bible"? Or is it more of a scientific compilation--and if so what sort of data is combined to create this body of information?

[Carmody]

Posted by donk (here)
Got a ton of homework to do!!

OK---so some of the stuff I'm reading about the things you pointed out from my chart send shivers up my spine...good stuff. I am sure it has been discussed and posted and written over and over, so perhaps someone can save me some time and point me to a good resource for my question:

Where did this information come from? As in specific associations of personal details/attributes generally agreed upon among astrologically minded people with positions of astronomical bodies? Is there some sort of "astrology bible"? Or is it more of a scientific compilation--and if so what sort of data is combined to create this body of information?

It's the oldest science in the world, it is the mother of all other sciences, math, philosophy, and so on. All we know and ponder as organized systems of pondering, comes out of astrology.

As you might imagine, it is also the more difficult to master. I could go on, for quite some time, here.

[Rocky_Shorz]

sits by the campfire roasting marshmallows and looks up at Carmody smiling...

you are a wealth of knowledge my friend...

want a smore?

[ulli]

Posted by donk (here)
Got a ton of homework to do!!

OK---so some of the stuff I'm reading about the things you pointed out from my chart send shivers up my spine...good stuff. I am sure it has been discussed and posted and written over and over, so perhaps someone can save me some time and point me to a good resource for my question:

Where did this information come from? As in specific assocaitions of personal details/attributes generally agreed upon among astologically minded people with positions of astronomical bodies? Is there some sort of "astrology bible"? Or is it more of a scientific compilation--and if so what sort of data is combined to create this body of information?

I became so excited when I first learnt how to do it that I threw my fashion business out of the window.
In fact, I became so excited that I didn't even want to ask about origins....only apply, apply, apply.
All I wanted to do was figure out what it was that made all the crazy people in my life so crazy.
Later I even figured out some of the reasons for my own craziness...lol
Finally I had found the perfect excuse...
Be warned...this stuff is life changing.

I went to Wikipedia and looked up History of Astrology:
Here is the first paragraph:

Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for meaning in the sky.
It has been argued that astrology began as a study as soon as human beings made conscious attempts
to measure, record, and predict seasonal changes by reference to astronomical cycles.
Early evidence of such practices appears as markings on bones and cave walls,
which show that lunar cycles were being noted as early as 25,000 years ago;
the first step towards recording the Moon’s influence upon tides and rivers,
and towards organizing a communal calendar.

Agricultural needs were also met by increasing knowledge of constellations,
whose appearances in the night-time sky change with the seasons,
allowing the rising of particular star-groups to herald annual floods or seasonal activities.

By the third millennium BC, widespread civilisations had developed sophisticated awareness of celestial cycles,
and are believed to have consciously oriented their temples to create alignment with the heliacal risings of the stars.

There is scattered evidence to suggest that the oldest known astrological references are copies of texts made during this period.
Two, from the Venus tablet of Ammisaduqa (compiled in Babylon round 1700 BC) are reported to have been made
during the reign of king Sargon of Akkad (2334-2279 BC).

Another, showing an early use of electional astrology, is ascribed to the reign of the Sumerian ruler Gudea of Lagash (ca. 2144-2124 BC).
This describes how the gods revealed to him in a dream the constellations that would be most favourable for the planned construction of a temple.

However, controversy attends the question of whether they were genuinely recorded at the time or merely ascribed to ancient rulers by posterity.
The oldest undisputed evidence of the use of astrology as an integrated system of knowledge
is therefore attributed to the records that emerge from the Neo-Sumerian period (1950-1651 BC).

And this is why Capricorns make money...bankers know all about their reliability.
J.P. Morgan said: "Astrology is not for millionaires, it is for billionaires."
And he knew why he wanted the public to remain ignorant of the scientific application.
Only allowing charlatans and jokers to practise, that way keeping the credibility level low.
The elite are the elite because they use this knowledge all the time.

[araucaria]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
Got a ton of homework to do!!

OK---so some of the stuff I'm reading about the things you pointed out from my chart send shivers up my spine...good stuff. I am sure it has been discussed and posted and written over and over, so perhaps someone can save me some time and point me to a good resource for my question:

Where did this information come from? As in specific assocaitions of personal details/attributes generally agreed upon among astologically minded people with positions of astronomical bodies? Is there some sort of "astrology bible"? Or is it more of a scientific compilation--and if so what sort of data is combined to create this body of information?

I became so excited when I first learnt how to do it that I threw my fashion business out of the window.
In fact, I became so excited that I didn't even want to ask about origins....only apply, apply, apply.
All I wanted to do was figure out what it was that made all the crazy people in my life so crazy.
Later I even figured out some of the reasons for my own craziness...lol
Finally I had found the perfect excuse...
Be warned...this stuff is life changing.

I went to Wikipedia and looked up History of Astrology:
Here is the first paragraph:

Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for meaning in the sky.
It has been argued that astrology began as a study as soon as human beings made conscious attempts
to measure, record, and predict seasonal changes by reference to astronomical cycles.
Early evidence of such practices appears as markings on bones and cave walls,
which show that lunar cycles were being noted as early as 25,000 years ago;
the first step towards recording the Moon’s influence upon tides and rivers,
and towards organizing a communal calendar.

Agricultural needs were also met by increasing knowledge of constellations,
whose appearances in the night-time sky change with the seasons,
allowing the rising of particular star-groups to herald annual floods or seasonal activities.

By the third millennium BC, widespread civilisations had developed sophisticated awareness of celestial cycles,
and are believed to have consciously oriented their temples to create alignment with the heliacal risings of the stars.

There is scattered evidence to suggest that the oldest known astrological references are copies of texts made during this period.
Two, from the Venus tablet of Ammisaduqa (compiled in Babylon round 1700 BC) are reported to have been made
during the reign of king Sargon of Akkad (2334-2279 BC).

Another, showing an early use of electional astrology, is ascribed to the reign of the Sumerian ruler Gudea of Lagash (ca. 2144-2124 BC).
This describes how the gods revealed to him in a dream the constellations that would be most favourable for the planned construction of a temple.

However, controversy attends the question of whether they were genuinely recorded at the time or merely ascribed to ancient rulers by posterity.
The oldest undisputed evidence of the use of astrology as an integrated system of knowledge
is therefore attributed to the records that emerge from the Neo-Sumerian period (1950-1651 BC).

And this is why Capricorns make money...bankers know all about their reliability.
J.P. Morgan said: "Astrology is not for millionaires, it is for billionaires."
And he knew why he wanted the public to remain ignorant of the scientific application.
Only allowing charlatans and jokers to practise, that way keeping the credibility level low.
The elite are the elite because they use this knowledge all the time.

I was going to link back to something much more ancient, no need

Don’t know if this is about me. It doesn’t matter. I am not strictly speaking a skeptic. When you see world leaders, not specially dumb, who all have their personal astrologer, you can’t be too skeptical. I am thinking of devils I know, people like De Gaulle or Mitterrand. Mitterrand and astrology are oxymoronic: either it adds to the mystery of the man, or you think, he’s got to be onto something. So I’ve known for quite some time that astrology probably delivers the goods. (Incidentally, Mitterrand visited a village not often mentioned on Avalon, if at all: Rennes-le-Château. ????*)

As an aside, the opposite happened to me with regard to ufos. Here in France, the spate of sightings in the 70s was covered by a news anchorman whose lightweight, jovial presentation led one to dismiss the message. Also his name, Bourret, makes him sound like he was tight/drunk/high. Let me stress here the importance simply of the demeanour of the likes of Bill Ryan, Brian O’Leary or Mel Fabregas in making their message palatable – and by no means in a derogatory sense.

However, even now, I do not see the need to delve into my personal story through this medium of astrology. The guy we are talking about I happen to know fairly well by other means and that is enough to get by. On the other hand, I am willing to explore astrology when applied to the bigger picture of the community as a whole. The site
http://www.astralnewz.com/currentastralweather.html
offers some interesting stuff but seems to have tailed off in around 2007. It suggests, as I do, that we look at future dates that reproduce the horoscope for 1859. But it doesn’t offer any…

That’s what I’d like to know, but am too dumb (astrologically speaking) to find out. One thing I do know is that on Aug 28, 1859, there was a solar eclipse…
* He also used to helicopter in to see a healer near Lisieux who, I have it first hand, was no charlatan.

[ulli]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
sits by the campfire roasting marshmallows and looks up at Carmody smiling...

you are a wealth of knowledge my friend...

want a smore?

Gimme smore...
Here is smore....
since we're talking wealth of knowledge..

.http://www.astro.com/people/hand_his_e.htm

[Belle]

Almost sorry I tried catching up after hearing Wilder and Why Do I Cry...
Most annoying sound...Justin Bieber's true voice before pitch correction...sorry to say I have actually heard it live a few years ago...walked away just shaking my head...


Better Way?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QitV6EFaYd4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QitV6EFaYd4

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Wow, that version of Bohemian Rhapsody made that song sound so classically beautiful. I loved that King Curtis video, too. Drinking a beer with the left hand while the right hand is keeping up. Reminds me of watching musicians play on Frenchman Street in New Orleans. Since we are done with hack music and posting gutes Musik, here's my contribution(s), Screaming Jay Hawkins (you gotta watch the first one to the end; what a performer!)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aSl9n4rlBH4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LNqO88cIIug

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7kGPhpvqtOc

[ulli]

talking of spells....this one has never been lifted:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ESJxRt9I-Ag

[dan33]

Posted by Nora (here)

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by Nora (here)
Driving home in the desert on a dark road and moonless night. I saw 2 ambient red-amber glowing lights in the shape of a smooth oval, double pyramidal tetrahedrons flying low in a tight parallel slightly perpendicular formation. They were flying in the direction NNW -east of me. Then they both disappeared no warning, poof out the ether. I was heading south about due east of 29 palms and Black Mountain. Going to be a late night.


Love


Nora

...I'm looking forward to hearing more about this...
and to see those rare double pyramidal tetrahedron ships...
any follow up dreams? That would be cool.

Here's a Gilchrist.... the below painting exaggerates the crafts shapes (the sides and tops of them were more oval & much cruder) that I saw flying and hovering last night. The center of the crafts are close (dimensionally) to the center depicted in the painting.


http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/SGEO/CX4814.html


Ulli, I haven't had any post dreams yet but will write about them if I do. Preceding last night's event, for the last 3 days I have had some odd dreams and a strange interaction with grasshoppers.

The dreams consisted of many different types of people speaking mostly ancient languages and some of them communicating telepathically; arguing or at least not being able to agree on the timing of an event. We were all in what looked like an underground cavern with lots of water and waterfalls and a bright blue & white light shining in from a cross the water to which I could not figure out or see its' source. This is all I remember of the dream right now.

The dreams went on for 3 nights and I couldn't get any real sleep; mostly in the in-between state of sleep and awoke each morning exhausted like I had been working all night.

Last night, before leaving I had an odd experience with grasshoppers. I was packing everything into the truck and suddenly grasshoppers came buzzing, chirping and flying out from nowhere. Jumping on everything around me -the ground, truck and quite loudly too. They came in chaotic droves and were all over everything. I thought this is weird they are diurnal mostly and strange for them to be out at night. Their mating season doesn't start for another couple of months yet -maybe their behavior was due to the area receiving a lot of rain recently. I felt creepy seeing them out at night and so many of them flying about with out any kind of formation.

I drove as fast as I could, while navigating winding roads. Also, I kept hearing an unnatural humming noise which disappeared when the crafts disappeared. It took me 7 hours to drive home -a short drive that takes usually 5 hours. After I saw the crafts I stopped at the nearest restaurant for an hour, drank a lot of water and wrote the above craft post from my cell phone, while the event was still fresh. Then from the parking lot and home I lost an hour and at one point it seemed and felt like I was driving on an entirely different road than on the one I was driving.
Good to be back home.


Love

Nora

Very interesting post. lack of time?

the picture looks like the Mer- Ka- Ba.




http://elearning.zaou.ac.zm:8060/Myt...elchizedek.pdf

The 3 Pleiadians.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ihs-vT9T3Q

we are all related.

[ulli]

Posted by araucaria (here)
offers some interesting stuff but seems to have tailed off in around 2007. It suggests, as I do, that we look at future dates that reproduce the horoscope for 1859. But it doesn’t offer any…

.

Normally there are two solar eclipses in a year, sometimes three, maximum five.
The Carrington event of 1859 had the eclipse conjunct Mercury (within 2 degrees...) and a near right angle to Uranus (87 degrees)
There was also a 150 degree angle between Neptune and Venus, although I doubt whether that would have factored into the event.
So to find a solar eclipse event to coincide with a square from Uranus would mean plowing through many years...who wants to do it?
The 2012 solar eclipses in May and November of 2012 show no significant right angles.
Here is November 13, 2012

[donk]

I went to Wikipedia and looked up History of Astrology:

thanks!

[dan33]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by dan33 (here)
Thanks Nanoo, ha,ha...

I remember when I read reports from UMMO. ... on the 80's

http://www.ummo-sciences.org/en/a002.htm

My husband told me he met two Ummos while traveling in Spain.
He felt their telepathy penetrating his mind.
They looked like normal people yet he knew they weren't.
One of them opened his coat and showed him the Ummo symbol, which looked like the letter H.
Of course it could still have all been a hoax. He said it was all really strange.

Victoria, my ex-girlfriend told me that Hiltruz, a friend who worked with (her secretary) Farriols (one of the contactees during the UMMO affair) "saw", during an international Ummo Meeting, an Ummitte (obviously it was a strange feeling too).

[aranuk]

Posted by ulli (here)

Posted by donk (here)
Thanks so much ulli, especially for the info (anything happen to stand out to you when you pulled it?)...but also he consideration...but honestly--this has been the week of my exposure, which is not ALL good in my complicated 3D soap opera of a life. May as well let it all hang out

Turns out no matter how much drama I navigate and how intensely I set my sights on peace & calm--trouble finds me. I musta been the queen of all drama queens, or paying for several times of causing it for others--I attract the most extreme of crazy, the people who's baggage has baggage, the wildest lunatics around...and i keep checking myself...my mom says I'm sane!

You have Capricorn Ascendant which makes you intense, determined, ambitious, and whatever you do you do with this focus and intensity. So even when looking for peace there is this intensity. Question is, can all this inner stuff be stilled at all?
Capricorn is the most ambitious sign, and having the Ascendant there can undermine your Libra sun's desire for harmony and balance. Getting an understanding of these forces inside of you and then accepting that your life will always be this rollercoster ride, might be a better option than struggling to find peace.
Your real talent might even be something like negotiating with kidnappers to release their victims. Something where your diplomatic skills can be combined with your bravery and talent for innovative leadership.

P.S. I forgot to mention one important transit you are experiencing, but which fortunately will start to fade soon. Your moon was at the first degree of Pisces, and this is the exact spot Neptune has been occupying on and off for the last year. This explains the recent disappointment, the deception, the confusion. This will never happen again in this lifetime, at least not to this extent.
Having the moon in Pisces makes a personality self sacrificing, very giving, compassionate, but also can give an inclination to throw their pearls before swine. Attracting parasitical people, but if not careful, also looking for others to feed off. Pisces is the sign of oneness, and often these people don't know where the self ends and the next person begins. To keep an awareness of these distinctions needs to be cultivated, because there will always be situations in life where the oneness principle should not be applied...I know this is a tough one to swallow for the more spiritual ones among us.

Dearest Ulli I know nothing about the Carrington event but I do know about angular planets. When any planet is angular, especially within about 3 or 4 degrees from the cusp of the angle it has a greater effect in the chart or should I say the person or the event. An angular planet is said to be prominent in the chart. Some years ago, the Gauchlins were a married French couple who as psychologists and frankly were also non believers in astrology started a serious experiment getting the charts of famous people hoping to disprove Astrology, but the more research they did the more convinced they were of the validity of Astrology. Over a number of years they had a collection of many thousands of charts which they did the old way by hand without computers. One thing they found was that in the charts of doctors Saturn would turn up on an angle so many times that it couldn't possibly be a coincidence. They found athletes had a prominent Mars on an angle. Many other things too. So instead of debunking astrology they indeed were proving its authenticity.

Stan

[dan33]

THE SAME OLD SCENE. Viva Roxy Music! Old and New, an Eternal Loop.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vXOgQN1a7bE

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Here and now, processing the penultimate, late harvest of cayenne. Dehydrating most to grind into pepper, and making vinegar sauce from the rest. Such pretty little spicy things!

[Guest]

I've been studying mythos and ancient astrology. I started there so that I could have a better understanding of what the planets, stars and constellations mean in relation to our human walk here on earth. Next I will study nodes, aspects, transits and degrees.
Actually having a lot of fun with this new found hobby and a few more.



Looking at this recent crop circle posted by Astrid here https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post570541 which could be a fake a fraud or a trite symbology, but maybe not.

I'm not inclined toward studying crop circles, although I do find them interesting and I have friends that are fascinated with them. But when I saw the design of this one at first glance I thought fraud or not that is a very ancient symbol and not from here originally and maybe there are a few possibilities.

One of them being a depiction of the Phoenix and the Dragon coming together or emergence -the sacred fires of the Divine feminine and Divine Masculine.
Another is that it is a communication from the Orion Belt and the Pleiades. The 2 crescent moons and the sun being Orion (El-An-Ra) and the center circles being the Pleiades in their orbital placement in relation to the photon belt. The center spiral being dark matter -a black hole.

The other possibility is that the symbols are a certain kind of expression of Alchemy -the small center circles are the first 7 elements in the periodic table (each size depending on its mass) and the 2 crescents and the sun (El-An-Ra) are theoretical elements from the platinum group metals. El being an element not found yet or theorized. But this also brought up the fact that each element has a corresponding resonate sound (tonal) but could also be referring to the sound of the Unknown Silence. Perhaps this is a message from our star brethren to help us naturally repair the earth's magnetic core and the ozone.




http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...hill2012c.html



artist rendition of the Windmill Hill crop circle




While originally posting this a hawk came screeching through my yard. So I ran outside to see what all of the raucous was about. The hawk flew low and turned upward and landed on a telephone pole. I had the chance to look at it for quite a while, very pretty bird -a large robust Red Shouldered Hawk I took pictures of it but couldn't get them to load into my computer.

Here is a picture of a young one

http://www.towhee.net/gallery/bowers.html


Love


Nora