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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

    What was definitely NOT used:


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    Groningen, zondag 6 februari 2011
    Veteran weather modification expert Ben Livingston is a former Navy Physicist who briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control back in the 1960's during the Vietnam era, when he was involved in cloud seeding programs that worked to slow down the advance of Vietnamese and Korean troops. Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government more than 40 years ago and that the technology was fully operational to control the weather at the time.




    In this exclusive interview, Livingston explains how for decades the US government has had the power to both lessen and increase the severity of adverse weather for their own purposes.

    Dr. Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment. "My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation value" he stated.

    Dr. Livingston presents evidence from the Stanford research Institute, who were brought into Project Storm Fury (a weather control program) in the late sixties as a third party, which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life. Four decades later and Livingston exposes how the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina could have been greatly minimized but was allowed to fully impact Gulf states for political reasons.

    Having personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes, Livingston remarks that he was "disgusted" by the failure to lessen the impact of Katrina. Livingston's revelations that weather control has been a decades long program in which the US government has been deeply involved are particularly alarming given the abundant modern-day evidence of how chemtrails are being used to warp our environment in a secret geoengineering plot that threatens a myriad of unknown human health and ecological consequences.
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    ... and so was Sandy allowed to strike at the maximum cranked up power that could be mustered to re-instilled some trust into the "medias"... "When we tell you to evacuate: just do it!"

    The following statement:

    Quote Project Storm Fury [...] stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life.

    ... carries with it the terrible corollary that, by the same token, they also know what starts or amplifies a storm into a hurricane... just pure, practical logic!

    Couple that with the report that military planes were flying around at the time Sandy hit the coast... along with the fact that storms are Navy's and Air Force's allies in demoralizing the "enemy" in any wars since Vietnam... who's the enemy now?

    Edit:

    Forgot to tie in that "Halloween" is the second in rank in the satanic calendar for sacrificial rituals...

    Edit II:

    This link works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKl9...layer_embedded
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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    It looks like they are priming California right now. a 7.4 long wave is currently being detected over Southern Cali
    The signature of the wave is not due to weather. It is an earth quake signature. Again I hope that they are wrong.
    But at this point I dont put anything past our rotten government.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    One thing that bothers me about this HAARP subject is that, if it really can create hurricanes and powerful storms, why haven´t they used it during the recent wars?

    They could literally have saved millions of dollars if they had used it in Iraq, Afghanistan or even Iran in the near future.

    Also, it would give them an extreme advantage, since such weather weapons officially don´t exist and there´s no regulation about them, so they couldn´t be held responsible for an eventual "natural" disaster somewhere in the Middle-East.

    This leads me to think that HAARP can´t create hurricanes, tornadoes or earthquakes from scratch; It can only intensify and manipulate them.

    Cheers,

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    HAARP WAS used in Iraq. Just not via weather control. HAARP is a multi faceted stone, my friend, with many different applications.




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    Also in this next article ( WARNING_GRAPHIC PHOTO) scroll down about half way or so and they describe how certain "entities" repeatedly try to modify the weather over south asian countries etc.

    http://www.dianuke.org/depleted-uran...inst-humanity/
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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Quote Posted by jagman (here)
    It looks like they are priming California right now. a 7.4 long wave is currently being detected over Southern Cali
    The signature of the wave is not due to weather. It is an earth quake signature. Again I hope that they are wrong.
    But at this point I dont put anything past our rotten government.
    Jagman, could you give your source showing a 7.4 wave over S. Cal. How does one determine it's an earthquake signature?
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Jagman is writing about this "wave":


    From this site: http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html

    It documents a bulge in the Ionosphere supposedly generated by a focused HAARP beam and which might be correlated to the trigger of an earthquake in the area. The correlation between such a "wave" and earthquakes has, so far, been very poor to non-existent.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Ahhhh,... but could extremes of weather around the world put excessive pressure on the plates simply by rapid cooling/heating - contraction/expansion - thus indirectly causing a quake? (Sort of like thrashing your car when it's still cold. it does and will eventually damage the engine far more than taking the time to warm it up first - or throwing hot water on frozen glass = shatter!).

    All helped along by chemtrails, strategically placed explosions, lasers, etc.

    Scalar Beam Technology encompasses HAARP and goes wayyyyy beyond what most of us think about "microwaves": it can and has been weaponised (as opposed to the one in your kitchens) and deployed by satellite or aerial platform. These "horizontal spinning vortexes" interfering with hurricanes have also been witnessed and photographed by airline pilots at high altitude - these "beams" were coming from above them.

    If this technology can "theoretically" reduce the effects of storms/hurricanes by that amount, it can be increased that amount (or more) also. A 30-40 % increase would be pretty devastating me thinks?

    It would also be a convincing way of proving to the world that global warming/climate change is real.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

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    Quote Posted by jagman (here)
    It looks like they are priming California right now. a 7.4 long wave is currently being detected over Southern Cali
    The signature of the wave is not due to weather. It is an earth quake signature. Again I hope that they are wrong.
    But at this point I dont put anything past our rotten government.
    Jagman, could you give your source showing a 7.4 wave over S. Cal. How does one determine it's an earthquake signature?
    I have to agree with Amzer Zo analysis. I have alot of questions regarding HaarpStatus.com. The reason why I keep posting this info is basically I want
    to test thier accuracy.I do know a week before Sandy hit HaarpStatus was predicting a massive storm. They also predicted where the storm would hit.
    All this could be absolute Bullsh%&#$. Only time will tell.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    One thing that bothers me about this HAARP subject is that, if it really can create hurricanes and powerful storms, why haven´t they used it during the recent wars?

    They could literally have saved millions of dollars if they had used it in Iraq, Afghanistan or even Iran in the near future.

    Also, it would give them an extreme advantage, since such weather weapons officially don´t exist and there´s no regulation about them, so they couldn´t be held responsible for an eventual "natural" disaster somewhere in the Middle-East.

    This leads me to think that HAARP can´t create hurricanes, tornadoes or earthquakes from scratch; It can only intensify and manipulate them.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    They didn't want to hurt the opium crops and long term conflicts are good for contractors. When you want an answer, follow the money.

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    More Evidence of invovment in storm steering

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Here is a complet rundown of weather modification iuncluding HAARP, HAMP, Nex Rad, ELF and alot more.

    THE MOST IMFORMITIVE VIDEO ON WEATHER MOD.

    WELL WORTH YOUR TIME IMO

    Lots of info at the end about modification of Sandy

    Looks Like HAARP STATUS is the REAL DEAL from this research.

    MUST WATCH!!@!!


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    Angry Aid Scam for HURRICANE SANDY? HAARP or NATURE? (or both) WeatherWars for Profit?

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    From
    http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html

    November 7, 2012 - 12:30p EST


    Quote A 7.4 - 7.5 magnitude quake hit the Western North American Coast (Central America) this morning. This quake followed by a 4.5 in Utah signals the stress on the West Coast.

    The entire West Coast is under our Earthquake Watch and the window was extended until Friday morning. We are still watching California.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    [...]

    afraid the truth is worse, the Heat Rising from the New York Region would have far more affect on an incoming storm than any man made array in existence. that is why this is the second time a storm has turned and slammed New York in a little over a year.

    [...]
    That's how HAARP is used:

    Quote After discovering that the ionosphere reacted strongly to HAARP transmissions, the project was militarized (see US Patent 4,686,605, “Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere”) and can now create ionospheric lenses that can be used to focus the sun's rays on a specific area, causing a localized rise in ground, ocean or atmospheric temperatures. This updraft creates a low pressure system at low altitudes and a high pressure system at high altitudes, and can be used to modify the flow of weather patterns.
    The sun provides the needed energy to manipulate these atmospheric instabilities.

    From Daniel's Geoengineering, Chemtrails, HAARP, World Orders, Time Lines and Ascension paper
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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    I know you'd love to know how haarp works and what it is capable of, but that storm taught me something that very few saw...

    We have the ability to wipe out a hurricane, strip down it's power to a tropical storm, sending clouds almost 2000 miles from the eye of the storm...

    the cat 4-5 storm had the Wind knocked out of it...

    so please keep working on what is being sent at us, while I figure what we did and how to do it again...

    if it can be done to a storm that powerful, can it be done to meteors? asteroids?

    I watched Thunder bounce a Tornado 33 miles, we have a pretty incredible group here at Avalon...

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    this video actually confirms what I was saying about HAARP not having the ability or strength to do it, and gives you an idea of the hand no one is watching...

    Quote Posted by Referee (here)
    Here is a complet rundown of weather modification iuncluding HAARP, HAMP, Nex Rad, ELF and alot more.

    THE MOST IMFORMITIVE VIDEO ON WEATHER MOD.

    WELL WORTH YOUR TIME IMO

    Lots of info at the end about modification of Sandy

    Looks Like HAARP STATUS is the REAL DEAL from this research.

    MUST WATCH!!@!!



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    HAARP: 90s Documentary - Weather Modification Weapon!

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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    ...........
    if anyone would really like to know what they are capable of, here is a good site for info...

    Quote can HAARP manipulate the weather?
    The energy levels associated with the weather engine of Earth are truly staggering and no radio transmitter could ever hope to possibly compete with it. The only reasonable way HAARP or its relatives could influence weather would be by pinpoint heating of bodies of water or air, clouds or perhaps the jet stream. The problem here, and one the conspiracists ignore, is that it takes microwave energies to do that and HAARP is only using HF and below, far too weak to deliver anything close to the needed energy. HAARP does not even have the antenna system let alone the power generating equipment for creating very powerful directed microwave radiation, the kind needed to excite water vapor. That's why we use a microwave oven and not a short-wave (HF) oven to heat food; only the microwave energy is useful for stimulating oscillation of the water molecules... http://www.holology.com/haarp.html
    if this was in conspiracy theories instead of Climate and Environment, I would have let it roll without saying anything...

    .........
    Thanks Rocky,
    I quitely appreciate some of your tech posts, (which can take a while to digest). Except there are always so many potentially related details confusing all advancing tech. So, making hard conclusions slips by me. I've tended to read very little about HAARP since the early assertions of several years ago... Or besides listening to Nick Begich and stuff about Tesla's experiments over 100 years ago. I love to read up on tech when aspects can connect many areas all around. But HAARP is one subject lacking information, held in secret, as your linked article concludes:

    Quote Instead of continuing to write the military and its research tentacles blank checks every time they need extra billions it's time to demand accountability, to demand and see some serious oversight and respect for the legitimate and changing needs of the taxpayers, the people living near these projects and ones affected by them, which in the case of HAARP includes the entire planet. HAARP's supporters need to unambiguously explain the product emanating from their research and to what purpose it will be put to use. Regardless, I have a suspicion that the world's inhabitants are significantly less enthusiastic about HAARP than it's military and political backers.
    - Freydis, 2001
    Where this article challenges the conspiracy scenarios, it too falls short of explaining certain evidences in themselves. Sure, conspiracy evidence might not support a specific technology-claim, fine. But what does fully explain certain evidences? One biggie coming to mind was the 911 hurricane. Link. Ultimately, why can't our big experts explain these more comprehensively and satisfactorily? Besides that, there is tons of evidence to challenge deniers of mind control-- Separate issues though these might be. But the article looses my interest, if it completely denies mind control tactics, using some kind of EMR, in a predatory world , earth, (up to present times). An aspect of EMR which transcends specific RF bands is modulations which can have effects to be distinguished from the carrier frequency. (As an example of what else can be analyzed here... Frequency is one thing, but unknown code triggering might yet, still be another. Codes affecting what and how? I will wonder.)

    It took me a month to look at this article... I'll try to see more of the HAARP links here, in time...

    It always helps to draw attention, if linked assertions can be succinctly summarized by a forum member posting. Otherwise it can sound like more vague ideas of possibilities-- Possibilities are fine, but not always stimulating to hear-out or to discuss further.
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    Default Re: Hurricane Sandy -- HAARP Interaction Evidence

    Simply put, Haarp Arrays are set up as receivers...

    the other devices in the video do have transmission capabilities that would bend weather...

    Chemtrails have more affect on a storm than haarp, they absorb sun energy then get drawn into the storm and release the energy...

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    Default HAARP STATUS website now shows UK + Europe

    Just a heads up: The Haarp status site now has UK and Europe and its looking quite active over UK
    http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html
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    Default Re: HAARP STATUS website now shows UK + Europe

    I was just looking at the storm sweeping in...



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    Quote Posted by Gardener (here)
    Just a heads up: The Haarp status site now has UK and Europe and its looking quite active over UK
    http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html
    I only see US on that link...

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