Barack Obama 2012

[GloriousPoetry]

If voting really changed anything it would be illegal.

[KiwiElf]

Great that it's on YouTube Selene; I wonder how many other machines have "glitches"? And yes, The Romneys DO apparently have some "interest" (or should that be conflict of interest) re the voting machines.

If several such "glitches" were to publicly show up in time, that might be sufficient to call a mis-vote?

[RMorgan]

A quote from the uploader:

"I asked the voters on either side of me if they had any problems and they reported they did not. I then called over a volunteer to have a look at it. She him hawed for a bit then calmly said "It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK." and went back to what she was doing. I then recorded this video."

This is absolutely unacceptable! This machine should have been removed immediately.

Raf.

[GlassSteagallfan]

At my place to vote, you pencil in the circle next to the candidate of choice, like a multiple choice test. Then the volunteer takes it from you and feeds it into a machine which supposedly records your selections. There are no visible results on the machine.

Anything can happen.

[SilentFeathers]

I wonder if Joe Biden accidently voted for Mitt Romney today????

[mountain_jim]

Posted by GlassSteagallfan (here)
At my place to vote, you pencil in the circle next to the candidate of choice, like a multiple choice test. Then the volunteer takes it from you and feeds it into a machine which supposedly records your selections. There are no visible results on the machine.

Anything can happen.

That process without a paper trail for audit and ticket for you to review and approve is why elections are nearly worthless in this country.

(edit - well that and the fact that all the choices are already pre-selected and controlled for the most important offices.)



And folks following BlackBoxVoting.org, BradBlog (and other investigators) since 2000 are pretty sure that Bush successfully stole Ohio (and the election) in 2004 using a man-in-middle setup where the Repugs counted/fixed the votes in their Tenn computers for Ohio's election.

[KiwiElf]

Democracy at risk: Voting machines might be hacked

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=D41WdHDyLbA

Description: Election Day is less than a week away, and with early voting underway many Americans have questioned the security of the voting process. According to an article by The Christian Science Monitor, e-voting machines are hackable and can be easily manipulated and could potentially alter the outcome of who takes the White House in 2023. Brad Friedman, investigative journalist for BradBlog.com, joins us to discuss how vulnerable the election process really is.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Romney owned electronic voting machines being shut off and replaced with paper ballet voting because of glitches... Thanks Anonymous!!!

Hart Intercivic, meanwhile, provides voting machines for 370 jurisdictions around the nation, with about 17.7 million registered voters.

One of the jurisdictions with Hart Intercivic equipment is Hamilton County -- which includes Cincinnati, the third-largest city in the hotly contested swing state of Ohio... link to story

this is one of their Pennsylvania machines...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM

By the sounds of many on this forum voting is a joke and doesn't matter, that the elections are an illusion and some even think that the "next president" is determined way before the actual election takes place.....well, if this is true then what does it matter if the voting machines don't work right?????

[gooty64]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Romney owned electronic voting machines being shut off and replaced with paper ballet voting because of glitches... Thanks Anonymous!!!

Hart Intercivic, meanwhile, provides voting machines for 370 jurisdictions around the nation, with about 17.7 million registered voters.

One of the jurisdictions with Hart Intercivic equipment is Hamilton County -- which includes Cincinnati, the third-largest city in the hotly contested swing state of Ohio... link to story

this is one of their Pennsylvania machines...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM

By the sounds of many on this forum voting is a joke and doesn't matter, that the elections are an illusion and some even think that the "next president" is determined way before the actual election takes place.....well, if this is true then what does it matter if the voting machines don't work right?????

Correct!

and to continue following that stream of logic this thread should be closed or never existed in the first place

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Flash (here)
wow this is surprising cause it is easy to spot. I thought the offense would be done in the counting algorithm, not the voting side.

Yeah ... which might mean that this "glitch" was planted by the Obama side, to make the Romney side look bad.

I'd wager both sides are cheating, and both sides working overtime to paint the other side as cheats.

[PurpleLama]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/11...es-for-romney/

“Well, he might have,” said Mark Crispin Miller on his blog site. He doesn’t know. Nor do other voters. Corporate owned, programmed and manipulated electronic voting machines control things.

The Carter Center monitors elections globally. It refuses to do so in America because free, fair and open standards don’t exist.

Jimmy Carter calls Venezuela’s electoral process “the best in the world.” He said America’s is “one of the worst.” He cited money power controlling them.

Others call US elections shams. They lack legitimacy. Nothing about them reflects democracy. Duopoly power controls things. People have no say. Half the electorate usually opts out for good reason.

Candidates are pre-selected. Key outcomes are predetermined. Media scoundrels suppress truth. Information voters most need goes unreported. Horse managed news and race journalism substitute.

Voter disenfranchisement is rife. Millions are peremptorily stricken from rolls. Violations prohibited under the 1965 Voting Rights Act are commonplace.

It prohibits states from imposing any “voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure (that may) deny or abridge the right of any citizen….to vote on account of race or color.”

Intimidation not to vote or illegal deterrence happens often. Vote caging delists minorities for not answering “do not forward” registered mail sent to prior residences.

Millions of Americans can’t vote because of past criminal records, no matter how minor. Millions more can’t because they’re incarcerated.

Elections are privatized. Corporate America runs them. Touchscreen electronic machines control voting. They’re used to steal. It’s easy. Manipulation controls things.

Vetting isn’t done. Verifiable receipts aren’t provided. Votes cast for candidate A can count twice for candidate B. There’s no way to check.

Corporate run machines are inherently flawed. They’re designed that way. They’re used to steal.

Investigative journalist Greg Palast said “get ready for massive voter fraud.” He expects 5.9 million “spoiled” or otherwise not counted votes.

On November 5, Roger Johnson headlined “How I Hacked An Electronic Voting Machine.”

“What do you need to rig an election,” he asked? “A basic knowledge of electronics and $30 worth of RadioShack gear” works fine.

Imagine how much easier it is by manipulating software to elect corporate choices.

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More at link....

[gooty64]

Or it could have been planted by the Romney camp to make you think that way......

Yeah ... which might mean that this "glitch" was planted by the Obama side, to make the Romney side look bad.

[GCS1103]

There were reports of people voting for Romney and Obama's name kept popping up. They had to call over observers from both parties to "fix" the problem. This rigging is going on with both parties. It's very naive to think that only one side is engaging in voter fraud.

[SilentFeathers]

It makes more logical sense to me that some way some how voting does have it's purpose.....but what do I know? I'm just a high school drop out who lives in a shack on a mountain....

PS: I did get my GED in 1982 though and have spent the rest of my life up until now pursuing a PHD in common sense....

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
That process without a paper trail for audit and ticket for you to review and approve is why elections are nearly worthless in this country.

(edit - well that and the fact that all the choices are already pre-selected and controlled for the most important offices.)

And the news about the choices carefully controlled propaganda ... and the education of the voters dumbed down "social studies" ... and the minds of those voters ruined by toxins in the food, air, water and drugs, ...

It's amazing we get any sort of reasonable officials elected at all.

(oh wait ... we don't.)

[aranuk]

Not only are the voting machines currupt but the whole god damn elections are corrupt. If the system is corrupt (No Ron Paul) then why be amazed that the machines are too? Every damned thing in the US seems to be corrupt, the judicial system, the Fed, the politicians, the courts, the police, the universities, everything. You guys will have to start at scratch one in order to make things right.

Stan

[chancy]

Hello All Voters:
This video has been discussed here a few times but seems to be appropriate at this time.

A full version of "Hacking Democracy"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eFJeVsOy5Xo

Everyone wishes democracy is not rigged but after watching "Hacking Democracy" you might think differently.

Enjoy the truth!
chancy

[noxon medem]

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Posted by RMorgan (here)
A quote from the uploader:

"I asked the voters on either side of me if they had any problems and they reported they did not. I then called over a volunteer to have a look at it. She him hawed for a bit then calmly said "It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK." and went back to what she was doing. I then recorded this video."

This is absolutely unacceptable! This machine should have been removed immediately.

Raf.

Absolutely right !
The voting-machines are a democratic farce at this point.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farce)

The OP video is not very clear and conclusive, though ...
- this one (replayed 06 nov. 2012) :
https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=QdpGd74DrBM

Be Well.

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[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Msm has picked up this story
Source: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/on...hines-run.html

Posted by NewScientist
Electronic voting machines running into trouble
20:17 6 November 2012
Hal Hodson, technology reporter

Millions of voters are flocking to the polls today across the US, but those who cast their ballots at one electronic voting machine in Pennsylvania faced a challenge if they tried to vote for Barack Obama.

A video showing a voting machine preventing a voter from choosing Barack Obama, ticking the box next Mitt Romney's name instead, was posted on Reddit earlier today. MSNBC subsequently confirmed the veracity of the video, and reported that the offending machine had been removed.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM

Such an obvious glitch is likely to be a technical problem, rather than voter fraud. However, the Pennsylvania case isn't the only hiccup: a similar fault has been reported in North Carolina as well.

Reddit user "centralpavote", who shot the video, recounted his discovery on the online forum:

My wife and I went to the voting booths this morning before work. There were 4 older ladies running the show and 3 voting booths that are similar to a science fair project in how they fold up. They had an oval VOTE logo on top center and a cartridge slot on the left that the volunteers used to start your ballot.

I initially selected Obama but Romney was highlighted. I assumed it was being picky so I deselected Romney and tried Obama again, this time more carefully, and still got Romney.

Being a software developer, I immediately went into troubleshoot mode. I first thought the calibration was off and tried selecting Jill Stein to actually highlight Obama. Nope. Jill Stein was selected just fine. Next I deselected her and started at the top of Romney's name and started tapping very closely together to find the 'active areas'. From the top of Romney's button down to the bottom of the black checkbox beside Obama's name was all active for Romney. From the bottom of that same checkbox to the bottom of the Obama button (basically a small white sliver) is what let me choose Obama. Stein's button was fine. All other buttons worked fine.

I asked the voters on either side of me if they had any problems and they reported they did not. I then called over a volunteer to have a look at it. She him hawed for a bit then calmly said 'It's nothing to worry about, everything will be OK', and went back to what she was doing. I then recorded this video.

C'mon it "just" one spoiled apple thrown out of basked...

[KiwiElf]

An emotional Obama makes his closing argument in Iowa
Yahoo! New Zealand November 7, 2012, 10:52 am

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/1...ument-in-iowa/

DES MOINES, Iowa - On the final night of his campaign for reelection, President Barack Obama returned to Iowa, the state where his candidacy first took root more than four years ago.

The event had all the trappings of a typical Obama rally: American flags lined the risers above cheerful Democrats, generators hummed in the distance, powering the flood lights, and a crowd of 20,000 filled the boulevard that led to the Iowa state capital building. After a prayer, the Pledge of Allegiance, the National Anthem, a performance by Bruce Springsteen and an introduction from his wife, Michelle, Obama approached the stage to the music of U2, just as he has done so many times before.

But this night, quite likely the final presidential rally of Obama's career, was different. The president appeared more patient and familiar, taking time to tell stories instead of repeating campaign slogans. His remarks retained the outline of his stump speech, but he devoted much of the night to reminiscing about his first campaign in 2008 and tried to re-energize his supporters with anecdotes from the past. While he spoke, a photographer captured a moment when a tear appeared to flow down his cheek.



"I came back to ask you to help us finish what we've started because this is where our movement for change began," Obama said, pointing behind him to the modest building that housed his first Iowa campaign office in 2008. "Right here."

The location is meaningful for the president. Before the Iowa caucuses of January 2008, Obama was seen as little more than a long shot challenger to then-New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, whose nomination seemed inevitable. But when Iowa Democrats visited their caucus sites, they chose Obama. The momentum would ultimately squeeze Clinton out of the lead and launch Obama on a journey that took him to the White House.

Four years later, after the first term of a presidency that pursued often divisive policies, Obama has returned to these Iowan stomping grounds--older and, admittedly, his hair grayer--to try and close the deal.

In his speech Monday, which went on longer than his usual campaign address, Obama recalled the earliest days of his first campaign. He paid homage to Edith S. Childs, a local councilwoman in South Carolina who was one of his earliest supporters and who coined the chant, "Fired up! Ready to go," which became a staple of his campaign in 2008.

He also reflected on his own presidency, conceding that he knew that his supporters sometimes found themselves "frustrated by the pace of change."

"I promise you," Obama told the crowd. "So have I."

It was all the more reason, Obama argued, to re-elect him. While the president did not once mention his opponent by name in this speech, he warned that "progress" would be lost and vowed to fight against "the status quo" in his second term.

Whether Americans will offer him a fresh opportunity may be known in the next 24 hours, and both campaigns are making a play for Iowa. Despite the state's modest six Electoral College votes, Iowa has played an outsized role this election cycle. Both candidates have invested significant resources into securing victory here. While it's not an absolute must-win, Obama's efforts here have forced Romney to secure support elsewhere, just in case.
While Romney has events planned in Ohio and Pennsylvania Tuesday, Obama decided to make Monday night his final public appearance before election night. He'll spend part of the day Tuesday playing basketball while the votes are counted.

"It's out of my hands now," Obama said. "It's in yours. All of it depends on what you do."