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    If you remove the killers hands on any form of the controls, all of these things, as issues, go away.

    One does not have to be a killer to get such a job done. However, it would be good to be emotionally neutral and not squeamish.

    We're talking about big differences in orientation and results, regarding desires, actions and outcomes -that will span time.

    In order to fix it, one is walking straight into a world or space full of killers, which can make the cure/fix doubly difficult to enact.

    Overt emotions on the subject have to be left at the door, otherwise the cure would, and will... eventually turn on itself.
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    The Rothschild clan was apparently considered to be the titular head of the Jewish people during WWII, and the Jewish folks were apparently told to hold their ground in Germany and 'do not leave'.

    This apparently created the situation where as many as possible were incarcerated. This goes back to the Balfour declaration, and so on. (as a mention, it is part of this story, not specifically this particular point)

    In the Jewish religion, the people cannot reclaim or head back (cease wandering) to the 'homeland' (Israel) until 6 million of them die for their 'sins' or whatnot.

    Thus the number was only 1.5-1.6 million at the end of the war. And that a 'number' of 4.4 million dead was added into the total via the mechanism of making a 'deal' with Stalin, who had the rest of the contented number of dead, the given places of death and whatnot, behind the iron curtain.

    This is why anyone who, in modern days, attempts to prove or disprove the 4.4 million number via checking the disputed ground areas where this extra 4.4 million bodies number are 'buried'......is killed or somehow dies. the areas of dispute are in the former eastern Germany, Poland and whatnot. When the cold war was going strong, no one could dispute the number, even though the evidence showed it to be, as numbers go..full of holes and contradictions.

    The bodies aren't there, is what it comes down to. Not anywhere near the 4.4 million buried bodies number. The original population (pre-war) of Jewish folk.... simply does not support the number.

    For this would put lie to the 4.4 million extra and the religious context for the creation of Israel would be lost.

    This is a small part of how one ends up finding Nazi's and hidden Jewish interests in the same box.

    Fascism, the definition of it, the encyclopedic definition of it, is where corporations, power people and money people..collude with governmental groups....against the will of the public.

    This means that unbridled capitalism, which will seek the least expensive and most effective methods of control and expansion..WILL BY ITS NATURE seek to infiltrate government systems. This defines fascism. Which is what the USA had rapidly turned to after the given internal wars. The founding fathers of the USA warned against this as they could see it forming around them. Some of them where the stench itself, as it was coming from them, it was in them. But few enough, that for a shining moment or two, things looked good. Then came the slow inevitable decay. People fell asleep, they took a break, like people always do. Rust..never sleeps.

    Uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism will move to governmental infiltration (and has) which by definition and reality... is fascism, which is also money people and banking people (not just corporate), and look who owns and runs the Federal reserve system.

    When you have fascism, its unstoppable hunger for more, its expansionism as a way of being..means it will turn into totalitarianism, which will turn into a bloodbath. In the end, it turns into something akin to Pol Pot's Cambodia, or near enough.

    The people have to step up and risk themselves before it goes really bad and put a stop to it and eliminate all avenues and ways which such beastly endeavors can reach such places as government. To plug ALL holes, otherwise, it's a waste of time. Like a virus, it will find a way in. it has no other choice, that is its way of being, so it will always seek to infiltrate and take over, in order to do what it sees a 'life' and 'natural'. Understand the existence of the parasite on the host, and cull it.

    Edit: it gets even crazier, in that Khazarians are a transplant, regarding religion. That they adopted the Jewish religion in about 900ad, apparently as a method of avoiding Christianity, or Muslim faith. There is a whole substory of moneylender connection to the 'emperor' of that country, similar to that of the story of the creation of the bank of England and how the moneylenders, who, by law, had to be Jewish..how those folks made an agreement with the crown of England, to create the bank of England. (shared ownership and so on).

    My point is that the Khazarians, apparently... come from a cult/religion of sexually oriented phallic worship, before they where converted to Judaic faith. IIRC, that is when the Talmud was born, or thereabouts. Judaism was enforced, apparently, death was the result if one did not comply, apparently.

    Thus, apparently..a Caucasian phallic worshiping warrior clan, converted to Judaism, the creation of the Talmud as a way of being and acting for that created group, and the stage is set, with that contrivance. Forgotten in the mists of time.

    Then we get to the real world proofing of..something. Just a piece of data: Genetic DNA testing of the 'Jewish folks' who are in the 'state of Israel', today, as a form of correlation in this apparent backdrop.

    What has been found, is that the Palestinian genetics are more Judaic than the occupiers of the land. Notably so. Of course, anyone who tries to report on such DNA testing does tend to have problems..... .. .. . .

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Psychologically speaking, this sort of thing, secret societies, and so on, is organized crime at a level that most folks don't know how to understand. Keeping it secret becomes a key point, to make sure that thinking and rumination cannot occur on this subject, thus keeping such levels of organized crime safer, by the very point of being secret.

    Groups of criminals, working together, passing companies, and organizations, whatever the case may be... down on through their family and association lineages. In this case it is overt and widespread systems of manipulation and control, of countries and continents, via financial and political control and infiltration. Via genetics and other avenues.

    Another point, is that to be successful in a world that has hidden organized crime groups with slightly less in-depth vision and control, they have to be more violent and cunning than any possible interference. Generally speaking, they are.

    But they are not perfect and they are necessarily wide-spread, through time and location.

    Which is why an intelligent person, someone seeking answers for the obvious and seemingly unexplainable incongruities in this world ..can finally...note their existence.

    This is not about there being only one point or group. This is a conglomeration of groups, this is one of them, seemingly one of the greater players. Clarity here is quite difficult, for that entire grouping desires to remain hidden, as exposure would erode the parasitism, or erode control methods and ways.
    As a standalone piece this should be framed ... well written Carmody.
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    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Quote Posted by Noble Hops (here)
    I've noticed that 'Bush' and 'Nazi' are constantly hyphenated together in the alternative news world, and it's a bit confusing. Wouldn't it be fair to say that the Bush (pappy and son) track record is heavily in line with the ZOG machine? How can they be in bed with Nazis and Zionists simultaneously?

    I'm aware of the alleged tie starting with Prescott Bush, but is it possible that story is nothing more than overhyped paranoia that is naturally trickling down onto every Bush after that?
    The Rothschild clan was apparently considered to be the titular head of the Jewish people during WWII, and the Jewish folks were apparently told to hold their ground in Germany and 'do not leave'.

    This apparently created the situation where as many as possible were incarcerated. This goes back to the Balfour declaration, and so on. (as a mention, it is part of this story, not specifically this particular point)

    In the Jewish religion, the people cannot reclaim or head back (cease wandering) to the 'homeland' (Israel) until 6 million of them die for their 'sins' or whatnot.

    Thus the number was only 1.5-1.6 million at the end of the war. And that a 'number' of 4.4 million dead was added into the total via the mechanism of making a 'deal' with Stalin, who had the rest of the contented number of dead, the given places of death and whatnot, behind the iron curtain.

    This is why anyone who, in modern days, attempts to prove or disprove the 4.4 million number via checking the disputed ground areas where this extra 4.4 million bodies number are 'buried'......is killed or somehow dies. the areas of dispute are in the former eastern Germany, Poland and whatnot. When the cold war was going strong, no one could dispute the number, even though the evidence showed it to be, as numbers go..full of holes and contradictions.

    The bodies aren't there, is what it comes down to. Not anywhere near the 4.4 million buried bodies number. The original population (pre-war) of Jewish folk.... simply does not support the number.

    For this would put lie to the 4.4 million extra and the religious context for the creation of Israel would be lost.

    This is a small part of how one ends up finding Nazi's and hidden Jewish interests in the same box.

    Fascism, the definition of it, the encyclopedic definition of it, is where corporations, power people and money people..collude with governmental groups....against the will of the public.

    This means that unbridled capitalism, which will seek the least expensive and most effective methods of control and expansion..WILL BY ITS NATURE seek to infiltrate government systems. This defines fascism. Which is what the USA had rapidly turned to after the given internal wars. The founding fathers of the USA warned against this as they could see it forming around them. Some of them where the stench itself, as it was coming from them, it was in them. But few enough, that for a shining moment or two, things looked good. Then came the slow inevitable decay. People fell asleep, they took a break, like people always do. Rust..never sleeps.

    Uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism will move to governmental infiltration (and has) which by definition and reality... is fascism, which is also money people and banking people (not just corporate), and look who owns and runs the Federal reserve system.

    When you have fascism, its unstoppable hunger for more, its expansionism as a way of being..means it will turn into totalitarianism, which will turn into a bloodbath. In the end, it turns into something akin to Pol Pot's Cambodia, or near enough.

    The people have to step up and risk themselves before it goes really bad and put a stop to it and eliminate all avenues and ways which such beastly endeavors can reach such places as government. To plug ALL holes, otherwise, it's a waste of time. Like a virus, it will find a way in. it has no other choice, that is its way of being, so it will always seek to infiltrate and take over, in order to do what it sees a 'life' and 'natural'. Understand the existence of the parasite on the host, and cull it.

    Edit: it gets even crazier, in that Khazarians are a transplant, regarding religion. That they adopted the Jewish religion in about 900ad, apparently as a method of avoiding Christianity, or Muslim faith. There is a whole substory of moneylender connection to the 'emperor' of that country, similar to that of the story of the creation of the bank of England and how the moneylenders, who, by law, had to be Jewish..how those folks made an agreement with the crown of England, to create the bank of England. (shared ownership and so on).

    My point is that the Khazarians, apparently... come from a cult/religion of sexually oriented phallic worship, before they where converted to Judaic faith. IIRC, that is when the Talmud was born, or thereabouts. Judaism was enforced, apparently, death was the result if one did not comply, apparently.

    Thus, apparently..a Caucasian phallic worshiping warrior clan, converted to Judaism, the creation of the Talmud as a way of being and acting for that created group, and the stage is set, with that contrivance. Forgotten in the mists of time.

    Then we get to the real world proofing of..something. Just a piece of data: Genetic DNA testing of the 'Jewish folks' who are in the 'state of Israel', today, as a form of correlation in this apparent backdrop.

    What has been found, is that the Palestinian genetics are more Judaic than the occupiers of the land. Notably so. Of course, anyone who tries to report on such DNA testing does tend to have problems..... .. .. . .

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Psychologically speaking, this sort of thing, secret societies, and so on, is organized crime at a level that most folks don't know how to understand. Keeping it secret becomes a key point, to make sure that thinking and rumination cannot occur on this subject, thus keeping such levels of organized crime safer, by the very point of being secret.

    Groups of criminals, working together, passing companies, and organizations, whatever the case may be... down on through their family and association lineages. In this case it is overt and widespread systems of manipulation and control, of countries and continents, via financial and political control and infiltration. Via genetics and other avenues.

    Another point, is that to be successful in a world that has hidden organized crime groups with slightly less in-depth vision and control, they have to be more violent and cunning than any possible interference. Generally speaking, they are.

    But they are not perfect and they are necessarily wide-spread, through time and location.

    Which is why an intelligent person, someone seeking answers for the obvious and seemingly unexplainable incongruities in this world ..can finally...note their existence.

    This is not about there being only one point or group. This is a conglomeration of groups, this is one of them, seemingly one of the greater players. Clarity here is quite difficult, for that entire grouping desires to remain hidden, as exposure would erode the parasitism, or erode control methods and ways.
    As a standalone piece this should be framed ... well written Carmody.
    It just so happens, I am a picture framer....

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    Quote Obama is now a high priority assassination target of the Nazi/Bush faction, according various sources.
    That would most certainly set off a civil war in the USA.
    Or provide the catalyst to invade the next country in line... What a convenience it would be if the assasin was Iranian.

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    Quote For example many sources say George Bush Senior is senile and in a wheel chair and that Jeb Bush now runs the clan. However, Neil Keenan says Bush recently got a $5 million rejuvenation treatment in Hong Kong and is still fully in control.

    This sounds far-fetched but Japanese military intelligence sources say former Japanese Prime Minister Nakasone recently appeared at a funeral looking far younger than his 94 years making many speculate he had been “replaced.” Other well-known gerontocrats like David Rockefeller also occasionally appear rejuvenated as if they had undergone some sort of treatment.
    Stem cell originated blood plasma treatments, is one possibility.

    This was just recently shown to work with regard to rejuvenation. It has to do with the chemical stew in 'young blood' and how this causes the body that receives such treatment to grow like that of a child. ie, self repair and a notable return to a more youthful state, in the very real sense.


    http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marb...-effects-aging

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ing?CMP=twt_fd

    When?

    Later or never, for the people of today in the 'unwashed masses'.

    Immediately or very very soon, all according to how much money one possesses, is the deal. If one has the money, they could be on this path in as little as a few months.

    Once they are in good enough shape from a stem cell based blood transplant, then they can go for something like, oh, possibly... a cloned liver transplant.

    from the guardian uk article:

    Villeda said that the young blood most likely reversed ageing by topping up levels of key chemical factors that tend to decline in the blood as animals age. Reintroduce these and "all of a sudden you have all of these plasticity and learning and memory-related genes that are coming back". Which factors in particular are causing the effect is unclear since there are hundreds of thousands in blood.

    Turning the idea into a therapy for humans will take much more research, but Villeda said there was no reason not to think that, at some point in the future, people in their 40s or 50s could take therapies based on the rejuvenating chemical factors in younger people's blood, as a preventative against the degenerative effects of ageing.
    further:

    Neurons made from stem cells drive brain activity after transplantation in laboratory model

    Researchers and patients look forward to the day when stem cells might be used to replace dying brain cells in Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative conditions. Scientists are currently able to make neurons and other brain cells from stem cells, but getting these neurons to properly function when transplanted to the host has proven to be more difficult. Now, researchers at Sanford-Burnham Medical Research Institute (Sanford-Burnham) have found a way to stimulate stem cell-derived neurons to direct cognitive function after transplantation to an existing neural network. The study was published November 7 in the Journal of Neuroscience.

    Human neural tissues or neurons, created with human stem cells, injected into mice, is what they are talking about. That ain't no simple study, that's inches away from full application.

    http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-1...lantation.html

    As you can see, I was not exaggerating one iota.

    If one has the money, like looking for non existent drugs or other frivolities, then the given situation of desire will materialize. We are 'that close' to public knowledge and realities on this subject.

    As was noted by some, as long as 10-15 years ago.....there are people alive today, already, now.....that will never die.
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    We can live beyond 120 years and reverse aging. The TA-65 enzyme is extracted from a plant grown in China by a company called TA Sciences. The daily pill costs around $10 and the treatment lasts 6 months.

    My post with the facts & link to company website.
    http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards...ge_id=78441323

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Quote Posted by Noble Hops (here)
    I've noticed that 'Bush' and 'Nazi' are constantly hyphenated together in the alternative news world, and it's a bit confusing. Wouldn't it be fair to say that the Bush (pappy and son) track record is heavily in line with the ZOG machine? How can they be in bed with Nazis and Zionists simultaneously?

    I'm aware of the alleged tie starting with Prescott Bush, but is it possible that story is nothing more than overhyped paranoia that is naturally trickling down onto every Bush after that?
    The Rothschild clan was apparently considered to be the titular head of the Jewish people during WWII, and the Jewish folks were apparently told to hold their ground in Germany and 'do not leave'.

    This apparently created the situation where as many as possible were incarcerated. This goes back to the Balfour declaration, and so on. (as a mention, it is part of this story, not specifically this particular point)

    In the Jewish religion, the people cannot reclaim or head back (cease wandering) to the 'homeland' (Israel) until 6 million of them die for their 'sins' or whatnot.

    Thus the number was only 1.5-1.6 million at the end of the war. And that a 'number' of 4.4 million dead was added into the total via the mechanism of making a 'deal' with Stalin, who had the rest of the contended number of dead, the given places of death and whatnot, behind the iron curtain.

    This is why anyone who, in modern days, attempts to prove or disprove the 4.4 million number via checking the disputed ground areas where this extra 4.4 million bodies number are 'buried'......is killed or somehow dies. the areas of dispute are in the former eastern Germany, Poland and whatnot. When the cold war was going strong, no one could dispute the number, even though the evidence showed it to be, as numbers go..full of holes and contradictions.

    The bodies aren't there, is what it comes down to. Not anywhere near the 4.4 million buried bodies number. The original population (pre-war) of Jewish folk.... simply does not support the number.

    For this would put lie to the 4.4 million extra and the religious context for the creation of Israel would be lost.

    This is a small part of how one ends up finding Nazi's and hidden Jewish interests in the same box.

    Fascism, the definition of it, the encyclopedic definition of it, is where corporations, power people and money people..collude with governmental groups....against the will of the public.

    This means that unbridled capitalism, which will seek the least expensive and most effective methods of control and expansion..WILL BY ITS NATURE seek to infiltrate government systems. This defines fascism. Which is what the USA had rapidly turned to after the given internal wars. The founding fathers of the USA warned against this as they could see it forming around them. Some of them where the stench itself, as it was coming from them, it was in them. But few enough, that for a shining moment or two, things looked good. Then came the slow inevitable decay. People fell asleep, they took a break, like people always do. Rust..never sleeps.

    Uncontrolled and unregulated capitalism will move to governmental infiltration (and has) which by definition and reality... is fascism, which is also money people and banking people (not just corporate), and look who owns and runs the Federal reserve system.

    When you have fascism, its unstoppable hunger for more, its expansionism as a way of being..means it will turn into totalitarianism, which will turn into a bloodbath. In the end, it turns into something akin to Pol Pot's Cambodia, or near enough.

    The people have to step up and risk themselves before it goes really bad and put a stop to it and eliminate all avenues and ways which such beastly endeavors can reach such places as government. To plug ALL holes, otherwise, it's a waste of time. Like a virus, it will find a way in. it has no other choice, that is its way of being, so it will always seek to infiltrate and take over, in order to do what it sees a 'life' and 'natural'. Understand the existence of the parasite on the host, and cull it.

    Edit: it gets even crazier, in that Khazarians are a transplant, regarding religion. That they adopted the Jewish religion in about 900ad, apparently as a method of avoiding Christianity, or Muslim faith. There is a whole substory of moneylender connection to the 'emperor' of that country, similar to that of the story of the creation of the bank of England and how the moneylenders, who, by law, had to be Jewish..how those folks made an agreement with the crown of England, to create the bank of England. (shared ownership and so on).

    My point is that the Khazarians, apparently... come from a cult/religion of sexually oriented phallic worship, before they where converted to Judaic faith. IIRC, that is when the Talmud was born, or thereabouts. Judaism was enforced, apparently, death was the result if one did not comply, apparently.

    Thus, apparently..a Caucasian phallic worshiping warrior clan, converted to Judaism, the creation of the Talmud as a way of being and acting for that created group, and the stage is set, with that contrivance. Forgotten in the mists of time.

    Then we get to the real world proofing of..something. Just a piece of data: Genetic DNA testing of the 'Jewish folks' who are in the 'state of Israel', today, as a form of correlation in this apparent backdrop.

    What has been found, is that the Palestinian genetics are more Judaic than the occupiers of the land. Notably so. Of course, anyone who tries to report on such DNA testing does tend to have problems..... .. .. . .

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Psychologically speaking, this sort of thing, secret societies, and so on, is organized crime at a level that most folks don't know how to understand. Keeping it secret becomes a key point, to make sure that thinking and rumination cannot occur on this subject, thus keeping such levels of organized crime safer, by the very point of being secret.

    Groups of criminals, working together, passing companies, and organizations, whatever the case may be... down on through their family and association lineages. In this case it is overt and widespread systems of manipulation and control, of countries and continents, via financial and political control and infiltration. Via genetics and other avenues.

    Another point, is that to be successful in a world that has hidden organized crime groups with slightly less in-depth vision and control, they have to be more violent and cunning than any possible interference. Generally speaking, they are.

    But they are not perfect and they are necessarily wide-spread, through time and location.

    Which is why an intelligent person, someone seeking answers for the obvious and seemingly unexplainable incongruities in this world ..can finally...note their existence.

    This is not about there being only one point or group. This is a conglomeration of groups, this is one of them, seemingly one of the greater players. Clarity here is quite difficult, for that entire grouping desires to remain hidden, as exposure would erode the parasitism, or erode control methods and ways.
    Fantastic summary and multiple excellent points along the way. Thank you for being here, Carmody - wow man

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    Carmody;
    “Consciousness doesn't grow from being told facts—it grows from the search for them.” Your search, Carmody, continues to make us consciously aware to continue our own personal search. You are in effect directing your life force energy into the Human Collective Consciousness for the survival of the species.

    Alas, I am not as good as you. I am trying to direct my life force energy into a 46 year old lemon tree in my apartment but it is still shedding a leaf about once a week. Spider mites this past Spring stressed it out. My job is just as important as yours: suppose the Creator, in ingenious wisdom, substituted for me the lemon tree as mankind?

    I don’t think we have to do much except focus our intentions to achieve the desired outcome. Seven billion souls have been incarnated on this planet as of today and some of those souls are from the really far reaches of the Universe and they are here for a rare show. I imagine they are well aware of all the politics of who the controller are.
    The sun is moving from G to F class and the new gravity net is forcing a physical shift in quantum densities. Plus there is a shift in dimensional consciousness that will accompany the event moving certain groups to interact within new density and others to remain in the previous density which will gradually cease to exist.

    I say let nature take its course. We cannot change destiny but we can shape our fate.

    The recent short pdfs that tells us the affect of Scalar Physics.
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    Quote Posted by Lancelot (here)
    Or provide the catalyst to invade the next country in line... What a convenience it would be if the assasin was Iranian.
    It would be convenient if it were not for the inherent suspicion of Obama's natural constituency, not to mention the hard experience of 200 years of American history. Contrary to popular belief these populations are very politically savvy and there is no way on God's green earth this country is moving backwards if they have any say in the matter. Many of them have a heritage that goes back to this country's founding and before and feel that it is just as much their country as it is the majority populations, if not morso since many of them have more recent immigration histories.

    Of particular relevance to their distrust of the conservative agenda is the proven history of attempted genocide and the proselytizing of exclusionary policy initiatives that were on full and unmitigated display in the most recent election cycle. While most are not aware of the conspiratorial aspects pertaining to the Nazi breakaway civilization, Project Paperclip and the infiltration of American institutions by the aforementioned, good old homegrown "southern hospitality" and northern aversion are familiar relatives to the Eugenics agenda, which was also made in America but exported to Deutschland as an experiment in practical application.

    As the old colloquialism goes, if offered an Iranian or other brown proxy for what is known to be the Anglo-Saxon/Nazi /Racist agenda, that particular dog won't hunt. We'll see what happens. Watching their faces on election night and reading the post-election commentary of the Right reveals their unabashed astonishment and dismay upon losing. The margins of victory in Ohio in particular were too wide to employ the voting machines and the usual lost ballots and hanging chad strategies to effect change in their candidate's direction without it being too obvious. The choice now is to concede to demographics and the increasing irrelevance of the "Southern Strategy" and barely veiled xenophobia or double down on it, which appears to be what the OP is alluding to. Let us hope for the former rather than the latter, as it provides us with a bit more time before this cauldron of steaming resentment and fear boils over into the disutopian revolutionary mess that some folks have been predicting for so long.

    And even if that occurs, it's not going to go the way the Elite factions or the xenophobic reprobates want it to. The world has changed and there is no going back.
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    Ben Fulford: Why the West lost to China and what it can do to recover, November 20, 2012


    A few years ago the conventional wisdom in the West was that maybe China might surpass the United States (a sub-section of the West) in 50 years. Now, any serious thinker understands that China is top dog and the West is in deep crisis. The Western nations have lost their moral, financial and political leadership of the world.

    This week we will look at why the leaders of the Western world nearly destroyed their own civilization. Then we will then try to figure out what to do to restore Western vitality.

    The causes for the Western decline were years in the making. The results manifested themselves over a very short period. Our ancestors would have recognized the situation had its ultimate origins in moral failure on the part of our leaders. Here are the seven deadly sins of the West:

    The pride that kills

    Westerners as a whole are perceived by other peoples as arrogant, and rightly so. My own initial reaction to living in Japan was typical. Anything that Japan did that was different from how it was done in the West was wrong. I was constantly preaching to my Japanese friends (many soon to be ex-friends) and telling them what to do until it slowly dawned on me that I had more to learn that I had to teach.

    The Western (especially US) leadership has been doing the same: telling and forcing countries to adopt two-party Democracy and the “Washington (read Wall St.) consensus” on economic management. What they failed to realize is that ever since military defeat in colonial times other countries and cultures have been diligently studying the West and drawing their own conclusions.

    The West, meanwhile, never thought that perhaps they should be studying other civilizations for clues on how to improve their own. The result is that other countries, especially in Asia, have combined the best of the Western with the best of their traditional culture to create a vital new hybrid, leaving the West to catch up.

    Sloth: the laziness that saps strength

    At some hard to define point over the past few decades use of phrases like “protestant work ethic,” to describe hard working Westerners has been replaced with phrases like “couch potatoes.”

    Westerners somehow thought they could let other countries do all the real work while they sat back and gave orders. The following joke sums up the situation fairly well:

    “How many Anglo-Saxons does it take to change a light bulb?”
    Answer: “Two, one to mix the martinis and another to look up an electrician in the phone book.”

    This laziness resulted in over 30-years of merchandise trade deficits in most Western countries and the bankruptcy it has now led to.

    Greed: the love of money over life

    Perhaps the greatest sin among Western leaders. Enough has been written about the sins of greedy bankers that I do not need to say much. However, what many do not realize is that the love of money has literally made most Americans slaves to an artificial intelligence. Fantastical as it may seem, most of the profits generated by Wall Street are generated by artificial intelligences known as trading programs that have greed as their prime directive.

    They rule Wall Street. Wall Street in turn is ruled by a single concept: seek money. The fountain of money, the Federal Reserve Board, functions like a single non-human mind run by massive computer networks. Most politicians and top military leaders in the US receive bribes and take orders from Wall Street and so in effect, they pillage the planet on behalf of an artificial intelligence motivated by greed.

    Perhaps the best example of a black hole of greed sucking life and vitality out of the United States is Walmart. In order to maximize the “profits” or money for Walmart, the middle-class in the US and its industrial infrastructure have been decimated. The six members of the Walton family now have more money than the poorest 100 million Americans.

    Wrath: the cruelty that destroyed Western moral superiority

    There was a time when the West was seen as the champion of human rights and morality. Now the West is rightly seen by the rest of the world as a collection of rogue nations. The murder and pillaging of millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are just the latest atrocities carried out by the fascist regime that took over power in the West after 911 in 2001. Western military forces now kill non-combatants, women and children in order to help fascist oligarchs steal their resources? Whatever happened to chivalry?

    Gluttony: the West is literally eating the world

    Westerners, the majority of whom are obese, have destroyed vast areas pristine wilderness to satisfy a lust for ever more food. The destruction of tropical rain forests for agribusinesses like cattle ranches and palm oil plantations are the single greatest reason why Western civilization has wiped out 30% of all land species on earth in the past 100 years. Overfishing is helping accomplish the same things in the oceans.

    Greed for unnecessary food is wiping out variety in life that took billions of years to evolve. Hopefully the Chinese will do a better job of preserving global biodiversity.

    Lust:

    Mistaken Malthusian fears of overpopulation have led Western rulers to do their best to divorce sex from procreation. Sex as a loveless non-reproductive sport is promoted through ubiquitous pornography. Homo-sexual marriage (that cannot produce children) is promoted while polygamy (that produces lots of children) is still criminalized in the West.

    The result is that Western countries now all have shrinking, aging populations. The West is losing the battle of evolution which is won mostly in the bedroom.

    Envy:

    The rulers of the West have been trying to start World War 3 and destroy 90% of humanity because they could not stand the idea of other cultures and nations surpassing them. It was their jealousy of other civilizations that led to their current international isolation.

    So, what can the West do to recover?

    Unfortunately, the first thing the West needs to do is what heroin addicts have to do to break their addiction: go cold turkey. In this case it is money addiction that needs to be cured. Money has no meaning unless it is backed by stuff that actually exists in the real world. That means Westerners have to start making stuff again. That means working again. To reverse what the Asian bar girls say: “No honey, no money.”

    The West also needs to drain all the fraudulent money out of the political and economic system until money has real value again. The United States needs to stop using the foreign owned and operated, misnamed US dollar and start issuing its own currency. The Southern European nations also need to get off the Euro.

    That will mean a temporary, and very brief, time when imports will suddenly become expensive. That is the pain.

    Then there will be plenty of local manufacturing jobs as people buy local and exports are competitive again. There will also be plenty of tourist business creating jobs. That is the gain.

    More importantly the countries of the West need to revamp their political and economic systems. They need to start imitating the Chinese and places like Singapore and create a hybrid between meritocracy and democracy.

    The Chinese pioneered meritocracy with their imperial exams but, as my father once put it, “wasted it by devoting it all to memorizing those blasted ancient texts.” The British copied the system and improved it by basing the entrance exams on more modern and relevant topics. The Chinese then re-adopted that system and started adding their own improvements.

    The new Chinese system combines meritocracy with real time democracy. Their leadership responds to opinion polls and blogs on a daily basis because they know that to do otherwise would lead to a loss of the Mandate of Heaven.

    This system is still being tinkered with and improved but there can be no doubt the world’s center of economic gravity has shifted to China and will continue to do so as long as their system of government remains superior. However, the Chinese know from their own historical experience that a single central source of power, no matter how competent or benevolent, leads eventually to stagnation.

    The West needs make sure we do not end up with a one-China world by setting up its own competing meritocratic systems. The pentagon is one example of a successful Western meritocracy that can be used as a model for a new system. The main, and fatal, flaw of the pentagon was that it was parasitical and not self-supporting.

    The legal system remains perhaps the healthiest remaining part of the Western world but it too has been seriously undermined by corruption and lack of accountability or transparency.

    Democracy was also a very good system in the past. It worked very well in a small city state where the rumour-mill provided freedom of information and town meetings could be called spontaneously in response to needs. However, it has been debased in most of the modern West by bribery, fraud, censorship, brain-washing and an inability to respond in real time to the emerging group-mind that is evolving on the internet.

    That is why a new future planning agency needs to be established from the ground up so that it can incorporate the best methods and models from throughout the world and from the historical past.

    If it is done right, the West can fully harness it’s still superior science and technology to help create an ideal world in harmony with nature and all humanity. What are we waiting for?

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    Hey Camilo,

    Finally, a Ben´s article that I agree entirely.

    I´m surprised he didn´t mention Asian secret societies and similar controversial subjects even once; Just pure logic and social-political common sense.

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    From Fulford:
    Unfortunately, the first thing the West needs to do is what heroin addicts have to do to break their addiction: go cold turkey.

    And so it IS...and about to BE!!!

    The perpetrators are about to lose ALL their tentacles!

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    Hey Camilo,

    Finally, a Ben´s article that I agree entirely.

    I´m surprised he didn´t mention Asian secret societies and similar controversial subjects even once; Just pure logic and social-political common sense.

    Raf.
    Totally agree with you RMorgan.

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    Reflection offers insights when we remain open hearted and open minded. Our His-Story is but an allegory for our own understanding in order for the appropriate changes to take place. If not for the mistakes, nothing can be learned. It is the purpose for the game of life. The grand experiment in the creation of the united States has fulfilled its purpose and the Native Americans knew of this day that was to come. We thank them for their sacrifice. For they are back as Rainbow Warriors in a time of great celebration as the new world is born. Thanks to you and I, we have made it.
    There have been those who have played the fools and those who have played the sages. As we ALL play our part, we evolve.
    Thanks to the lesson givers as they share how to be or not to be. May we find the good in all that has transpired in the darkness so that we seek the light of understanding. In the end, true forgiveness comes at the realization there was never anything to forgive in the first place. Its all Good.

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    Agreed -Fulford was fascinating to read back when he first hit the forums, but I quickly stopped resonating with is stuff as it just seemed like a nice storybook, whether true or not. This article is a concise and well written breakdown of the failure of Western society, and is grounded enough to be digestible by everyone.

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey Camilo,

    Finally, a Ben´s article that I agree entirely.

    I´m surprised he didn´t mention Asian secret societies and similar controversial subjects even once; Just pure logic and social-political common sense.

    Raf.

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    It must be a slow news week for Ben, or there are developments on-going of which he cannot yet share the news.

    I did a slight bit of editing without changing any text, as Ben's journalism is a bit sloppy.

    Quote Posted by Benjamin

    November 20, 2012

    A few years ago the conventional wisdom in the West was that maybe China might surpass the United States (a sub-section of the West) in 50 years. Now, any serious thinker understands that China is top dog and the West is in deep crisis. The Western nations have lost their moral, financial and political leadership of the world.

    This week we will look at why the leaders of the Western world nearly destroyed their own civilization. Then we will then try to figure out what to do to restore Western vitality.

    The causes for the Western decline were years in the making. The results manifested themselves over a very short period. Our ancestors would have recognized the situation had its ultimate origins in moral failure on the part of our leaders. Here are the Seven Deadly Sins of the West:

    Pride: The pride that kills
    Westerners as a whole are perceived by other peoples as arrogant, and rightly so. My own initial reaction to living in Japan was typical. Anything that Japan did that was different from how it was done in the West was wrong. I was constantly preaching to my Japanese friends (many soon to be ex-friends) and telling them what to do until it slowly dawned on me that I had more to learn that I had to teach.

    The Western (especially US) leadership has been doing the same: telling and forcing countries to adopt two-party Democracy and the “Washington (read Wall St.) consensus” on economic management. What they failed to realize is that ever since military defeat in colonial times other countries and cultures have been diligently studying the West and drawing their own conclusions.

    The West, meanwhile, never thought that perhaps they should be studying other civilizations for clues on how to improve their own. The result is that other countries, especially in Asia, have combined the best of the Western with the best of their traditional culture to create a vital new hybrid, leaving the West to catch up.
    Sloth: the laziness that saps strength
    At some hard to define point over the past few decades use of phrases like “protestant work ethic,” to describe hard working Westerners has been replaced with phrases like “couch potatoes.”

    Westerners somehow thought they could let other countries do all the real work while they sat back and gave orders. The following joke sums up the situation fairly well:

    “How many Anglo-Saxons does it take to change a light bulb?”

    Answer: “Two, one to mix the martinis and another to look up an electrician in the phone book.”

    This laziness resulted in over 30-years of merchandise trade deficits in most Western countries and the bankruptcy it has now led to.
    Greed: the love of money over life
    Perhaps the greatest sin among Western leaders. Enough has been written about the sins of greedy bankers that I do not need to say much. However, what many do not realize is that the love of money has literally made most Americans slaves to an artificial intelligence. Fantastical as it may seem, most of the profits generated by Wall Street are generated by artificial intelligences known as trading programs that have greed as their prime directive.

    They rule Wall Street. Wall Street, in turn, is ruled by a single concept: seek money. The fountain of money, the Federal Reserve Board, functions like a single non-human mind run by massive computer networks. Most politicians and top military leaders in the US receive bribes and take orders from Wall Street and so in effect, they pillage the planet on behalf of an artificial intelligence motivated by greed.

    Perhaps the best example of a black hole of greed sucking life and vitality out of the United States is Walmart. In order to maximize the “profits” or money for Walmart, the middle-class in the US and its industrial infrastructure have been decimated. The six members of the Walton family now have more money than the poorest 100 million Americans.
    Wrath: the cruelty that destroyed Western moral superiority
    There was a time when the West was seen as the champion of human rights and morality. Now the West is rightly seen by the rest of the world as a collection of rogue nations. The murder and pillaging of millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya are just the latest atrocities carried out by the fascist regime that took over power in the West after 911 in 2001. Western military forces now kill non-combatants, women and children in order to help fascist oligarchs steal their resources? Whatever happened to chivalry?
    Gluttony: the West is literally eating the world
    Westerners, the majority of whom are obese, have destroyed vast areas pristine wilderness to satisfy a lust for ever more food. The destruction of tropical rain forests for agribusinesses like cattle ranches and palm oil plantations are the single greatest reason why Western civilization has wiped out 30% of all land species on earth in the past 100 years. Overfishing is helping accomplish the same things in the oceans.

    Greed for unnecessary food is wiping out variety in life that took billions of years to evolve. Hopefully the Chinese will do a better job of preserving global biodiversity.
    Lust:

    Mistaken Malthusian fears of overpopulation have led Western rulers to do their best to divorce sex from procreation. Sex as a loveless non-reproductive sport is promoted through ubiquitous pornography. Homo-sexual marriage (that cannot produce children) is promoted while polygamy (that produces lots of children) is still criminalized in the West.

    The result is that Western countries now all have shrinking, aging populations. The West is losing the battle of evolution which is won mostly in the bedroom.

    Envy:

    The rulers of the West have been trying to start World War 3 and destroy 90% of humanity because they could not stand the idea of other cultures and nations surpassing them. It was their jealousy of other civilizations that led to their current international isolation.

    So, what can the West do to recover?

    Unfortunately, the first thing the West needs to do is what heroin addicts have to do to break their addiction: go cold turkey. In this case it is money addiction that needs to be cured. Money has no meaning unless it is backed by stuff that actually exists in the real world. That means Westerners have to start making stuff again. That means working again. To reverse what the Asian bar girls say: “No honey, no money.”

    The West also needs to drain all the fraudulent money out of the political and economic system until money has real value again. The United States needs to stop using the foreign owned and operated, misnamed US dollar and start issuing its own currency. The Southern European nations also need to get off the Euro.

    That will mean a temporary, and very brief, time when imports will suddenly become expensive. That is the pain.

    Then there will be plenty of local manufacturing jobs as people buy local and exports are competitive again. There will also be plenty of tourist business creating jobs. That is the gain.

    More importantly the countries of the West need to revamp their political and economic systems. They need to start imitating the Chinese and places like Singapore and create a hybrid between meritocracy and democracy.

    The Chinese pioneered meritocracy with their imperial exams but, as my father once put it, “wasted it by devoting it all to memorizing those blasted ancient texts.” The British copied the system and improved it by basing the entrance exams on more modern and relevant topics. The Chinese then re-adopted that system and started adding their own improvements.

    The new Chinese system combines meritocracy with real time democracy. Their leadership responds to opinion polls and blogs on a daily basis because they know that to do otherwise would lead to a loss of the Mandate of Heaven.

    This system is still being tinkered with and improved but there can be no doubt the world’s center of economic gravity has shifted to China and will continue to do so as long as their system of government remains superior. However, the Chinese know from their own historical experience that a single central source of power, no matter how competent or benevolent, leads eventually to stagnation.

    The West needs make sure we do not end up with a one-China world by setting up its own competing meritocratic systems. The pentagon is one example of a successful Western meritocracy that can be used as a model for a new system. The main, and fatal, flaw of the pentagon was that it was parasitical and not self-supporting.

    The legal system remains perhaps the healthiest remaining part of the Western world but it too has been seriously undermined by corruption and lack of accountability or transparency.

    Democracy was also a very good system in the past. It worked very well in a small city state where the rumour-mill provided freedom of information and town meetings could be called spontaneously in response to needs. However, it has been debased in most of the modern West by bribery, fraud, censorship, brain-washing and an inability to respond in real time to the emerging group-mind that is evolving on the internet.

    That is why a new future planning agency needs to be established from the ground up so that it can incorporate the best methods and models from throughout the world and from the historical past.

    If it is done right, the West can fully harness it’s still superior science and technology to help create an ideal world in harmony with nature and all humanity. What are we waiting for?


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    There indeed, is a story of evolvement unfolding.
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    Agreed -Fulford was fascinating to read back when he first hit the forums, but I quickly stopped resonating with is stuff as it just seemed like a nice storybook, whether true or not. This article is a concise and well written breakdown of the failure of Western society, and is grounded enough to be digestible by everyone.

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey Camilo,

    Finally, a Ben´s article that I agree entirely.

    I´m surprised he didn´t mention Asian secret societies and similar controversial subjects even once; Just pure logic and social-political common sense.

    Raf.

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    He makes some great points. He should have more slow weeks if it results in him sharing his analysis of the world from his unique vantage point, being intimately familiar with both Eastern and Western mores.

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    As the Native American states you ether travel the "Red Road" spiritual life into a spiritual path or the "Black Road" of a materialistic life leading into the materialistic world which the majority of the people in America follow. Now we all know what road the PTB follow........

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