Liver detox / Liver flush

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Thanks WCBD,

i already knew they made the espson caps but i think they are a bit on the expensive side, 100 caps for 11.50 and you need 60 per flush, thats a bit much for me, i bought 1 kg of epsom for 4.99 so i already have that and the capping machine is well worth it imo, it takes about 10 minutes to make them, those olive oil caps however look very good to me, i wonder how much it would take to lube a liver so the stones can come skiing out, would not surprise me if it would take about 30 oilcaps, i think this actually deserves it own thread since it can make the cleanse more acceptable and less weird or extreme for most people, the pictures will be just as gross as in the old days of course.

Luv, from a slightly less cranky Plumber ( i wonder what i will dream of this night, i always dream pretty heavy the day after a cleanse).

[RunningDeer]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Thanks for supporting the ape WCBD

This is what i am getting to get around the epsom taste, might help you as well, they are 22.50 in euro's, thats acceptable to me.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-rAOJzAcEbg

Wow, great idea! It also tells me how much you hate the epsom taste. I'm thinking it's too much work to make them. But I Googled this:

Magnesium Sulfate USP (Epsom Salts) . It's a link for reference. It may be cheaper somewhere else. I'm definitely going to purchase. Problem solved. Now if there was only a way to down 20-30 capsules of olive oil and juice in one minute's time, I might consider time, energy and patience with that machine. Hold on, I'll be right back....

...Yup, they've got extra virgin olive oil capsules! I'm guessing, you'd just down them with the orange/lemon juice. Now that I see there's another way, I'm thinking that I'm almost at the end of this whole procedure. My plan is to purchase the ready made epsom capsules, and continue to glug-glug down the oil cuz it's only once.

Look what you've done, 665 plumber of the beast? Problem solved. Yes, you've made my day!

xo

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Thanks for supporting the ape WCBD

UPDATE: I just reviewed the information on epsom capsules. Each Liver Flush requires four portions of 15 capsules with 8 oz of water. That's too much work. The 6 oz of solution for 6 seconds doesn't seem so bad after all. But to know there's another way makes it more palatable.

Huh?

PS Oops, just saw your post up there.

UPDATE of UPDATE:

30 oilcaps, i think this actually deserves it own thread since it can make the cleanse more acceptable and less weird or extreme for most people, the pictures will be just as gross as in the old days of course.

Luv, from a slightly less cranky Plumber ( i wonder what i will dream of this night, i always dream pretty heavy the day after a cleanse).

I wondered if the oil caps would take too long to break down. Too, the energy to break them down takes away from the process of the cleansing.

I like the sense of peace and lightness when it's over. It makes me appreciate and respect the body vessel. And if I'm going through all this, it helps me make better choices of what goes in.

As for the pictures, it's shocking but a helpful visual for those to see what's in the body that prevents it from running the healing energies around it.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

Well, dissolves fast enough allright, but the contents of the caps are very small, i do not think this is going to work at all, we might be stuck with the oil and the juice, but hey, if i can kill the horrible epsom taste i am a happy camper, last night and this morning i stood there, wanting to drink it but hestitated a few times each time, taking a deep breath and i could taste it before i drank it, so, not good, i will make caps next time.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

FYI: I've updated the update, up there. (slow poster, sigh..) I've flipped the routine around so that I drink the oil at 10:00 am rather than 10:00 pm. I couldn't sleep and I'd get bad heartburn. That schedule is better for me.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

FYI: I've updated the update, up there. (slow poster, sigh..) I've flipped the routine around so that I drink the oil at 10:00 am rather than 10:00 pm. I couldn't sleep and I'd get bad heartburn. That schedule is better for me.

I updated my previous post too, check it out.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

FYI: I've updated the update, up there. (slow poster, sigh..) I've flipped the routine around so that I drink the oil at 10:00 am rather than 10:00 pm. I couldn't sleep and I'd get bad heartburn. That schedule is better for me.

I updated my previous post too, check it out.

if i can kill the horrible epsom taste i am a happy camper, last night and this morning i stood there, wanting to drink it but hestitated a few times each time, taking a deep breath and i could taste it before i drank it, so, not good, i will make caps next time.

Big chuckles with your description of drinking that 'yum-yum health cocktail'. You must be channeling me, or is it the other way around?

One suggestion they gave was to use a drinking straw. I thought it would take too long. I just make it go way back in the throat where it misses as many taste buds as possible.

That last one is the hardest. I've been known to leave a tiny bit in the glass...

It's been nice visiting with you.
Toodles for now.
............Going, going, gone..........................................

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

FYI: I've updated the update, up there. (slow poster, sigh..) I've flipped the routine around so that I drink the oil at 10:00 am rather than 10:00 pm. I couldn't sleep and I'd get bad heartburn. That schedule is better for me.

I updated my previous post too, check it out.

Big chuckles with your description of drink that health cocktail. One suggestion they gave was to use a drinking straw. I thought it would take too long. I just make it go way back in the throat where it misses as many taste buds as possible.

That last one is the hardest. I've been known to leave a tiny bit in the glass...

I know, i use this shaker ( image for you, fresh picture, grinn), and as you can see there is still some in the bottom of the shaker, the advantage (imo) is that you can use the small but large spout to tank it down real fast, takes about five, looooooooooooooong seconds, yech.

I fill this 3/4 with 50/50 juice/oil.



Bye, Bying, Byest.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

FYI: I've updated the update, up there. (slow poster, sigh..) I've flipped the routine around so that I drink the oil at 10:00 am rather than 10:00 pm. I couldn't sleep and I'd get bad heartburn. That schedule is better for me.

I updated my previous post too, check it out.

Big chuckles with your description of drink that health cocktail. One suggestion they gave was to use a drinking straw. I thought it would take too long. I just make it go way back in the throat where it misses as many taste buds as possible.

That last one is the hardest. I've been known to leave a tiny bit in the glass...

I know, i use this shaker ( image for you, fresh picture, grinn), and as you can see there is still some in the bottom of the shaker, the advantage (imo) is that you can use the small but large spout to tank it down real fast, takes about five, looooooooooooooong seconds, yech.

I fill this 3/4 with 50/50 juice/oil.

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Ugh! 5 seconds flat. Your good.

That's looks like a lot of glugging. I use by Andreas Moritz method which is 6 oz of juice in mason jar, add 4 oz olive oil and shake 20 times. So that 50/50 would be really hard to get down.

This is Andreas Moritz's free eBook: "Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation". It's so chock full of great information that I purchased a hard copy. It's not your typical health book. There's a chapter on the liver gallbladder cleanse in this one, too.

I also have Andreas Moritz eBook, which is my favorite source. It's a quick read and easy reference. - "The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush" for $9.99.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Brb ,will throw a fish oil gel cap in warm water to see how fast it dissolves, i dont think its aproblem when you chug down the gel caps a few minutes before you take the grapefruitjuice.

I'll update as soon as i have a result, should only take a few minutes.

FYI: I've updated the update, up there. (slow poster, sigh..) I've flipped the routine around so that I drink the oil at 10:00 am rather than 10:00 pm. I couldn't sleep and I'd get bad heartburn. That schedule is better for me.

I updated my previous post too, check it out.

Big chuckles with your description of drink that health cocktail. One suggestion they gave was to use a drinking straw. I thought it would take too long. I just make it go way back in the throat where it misses as many taste buds as possible.

That last one is the hardest. I've been known to leave a tiny bit in the glass...

I know, i use this shaker ( image for you, fresh picture, grinn), and as you can see there is still some in the bottom of the shaker, the advantage (imo) is that you can use the small but large spout to tank it down real fast, takes about five, looooooooooooooong seconds, yech.

I fill this 3/4 with 50/50 juice/oil.

Attachment 19501

Ugh! 5 seconds flat. Your good.

That's looks like a lot of glugging. I use by Andreas Moritz method which is 6 oz of juice in mason jar, add 4 oz olive oil and shake 20 times. So that 50/50 would be really hard to get down. I've added a link above for a free download pdf of his book.

I have the book, i lend it to everybody but nobody actually does it, say it takes to much discipline, one weekend a month, they think thats dicipline. And the 50/50 dissolves the oil better i think ( to me it does)

[RunningDeer]

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
I have the book, i lend it to everybody but nobody actually does it, say it takes to much discipline, one weekend a month, they think thats dicipline. And the 50/50 dissolves the oil better i think ( to me it does)

You are going above and beyond. Kudos to you. Typically, it's more juice than oil: 6 oz juice to 4 oz oil. Which would dissolve the oil better. I'm tempted to add more juice, but that is too much for the liver/gallbladder system to process. Besides, if I'm going to take in extra oil, it'll be from Ben & Jerry's. Oops, did I just say that out aloud?

I'm doing the flush every 3 weeks. I'm impatient. One could say that's another sign of unbalanced liver energetics. Ha!

My goal is to have the best possible energetic vessel come December 21, 2012. I want to take in any and all upgrade-zaps possible that the Universe is offering to anyone that's interested. That is along with other work of mind, body and spirit. Or have a stated the obvious A-gain?

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

Something that I've discovered rather by accident: if the water you use for the epsom salt is slightly warm it goes down much faster and easier. The body does not reject it as much, even if the taste is the same. Cold water is horrible. Give it a shot, you will see the difference. "Slightly warm" means at body temperature or just above it.

The same goes for the oil mixture! Only one time I drank that thing cold and it was nasty! I usually had no problem with the oil mixture at all.

[Eram]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Hello,

Something that I've discovered rather by accident: if the water you use for the epsom salt is slightly warm it goes down much faster and easier. The body does not reject it as much, even if the taste is the same. Cold water is horrible. Give it a shot, you will see the difference. "Slightly warm" means at body temperature or just above it.

The same goes for the oil mixture! Only one time I drank that thing cold and it was nasty! I usually had no problem with the oil mixture at all.

The book stated that it is best to avoid to consume anything under room temperature during the week prior to the flush, because cold drinks and foods could cause the liver to 'freeze'. (no explanation of what that might mean and what the consequences are).

I warmed my epsom solution every time before drinking for that reason, because we don't want a frozen liver during the flush now do we?

Strangely haven't thought about warming the oil, juice mixture before ... on second hand... not so strange, considering my air head character.

Would be nice if a warm solution of oil and juice would prevent the sick feeling at night.
Who knows... I'm going to find out in 2 days.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
Hello,

Something that I've discovered rather by accident: if the water you use for the epsom salt is slightly warm it goes down much faster and easier. The body does not reject it as much, even if the taste is the same. Cold water is horrible. Give it a shot, you will see the difference. "Slightly warm" means at body temperature or just above it.

The same goes for the oil mixture! Only one time I drank that thing cold and it was nasty! I usually had no problem with the oil mixture at all.

The book stated that it is to best to avoid to consume anything under room temperature during the week prior to the flush, because cold drinks and foods could cause the liver to 'freeze'. (no explanation of what that might mean and what the consequences are).

I warmed my epsom solution every time before drinking for that reason, because we don't want a frozen liver during the flush now do we?

Strangely haven't thought about warming the oil, juice mixture before ... on second hand... not so strange, considering my air head character.

Would be nice if a warm solution of oil and juice would prevent the sick feeling at night.
Who knows... I'm going to find out in 2 days.

I hope you wont be disapointed an it proves to be an OK tip.

Succes ermee Toek!

[Ilie Pandia]

Before I've started the liver and gall bladder flush on my own, I had the "pleasure" of having to rush my brother to the emergency room to remove some kidney stones.

The experience at the hospital was so scary for me, even though I was only an observer and offering support. I've decided then and there that I will do anything in my power not have to go to a hospital in an emergency state...

Considering that, and the pain and side effects that may show up during and after a surgical operation, drinking 4 glasses of epsom salts and one of oil with grapefruit it really is the friendliest protocol I've ever done, and I am very thankful for it!!

PS: With regards to oil, try different brands, some taste better than others. The one I've found I really like and it's very easy to drink as long as it not cold .

[astrid]

Ok.. at the business end of my first ever flush,
first glass of Epsom Salts down, and so far so good.
MY filtered water is room temp, i added a dash of lemon as well,
then drank it all down with a straw, not that bad, i can tolerate this.

Tonight is the new moon, so its great timing,
fingers crossed that it will all go smoothly.

This thread has been a great help,
so thanks to everyone for posting their experiences.

[astrid]

2.22 am now , after taking the oil mix earlier
I have some headaches but only had very slight
nausea so far .

I had been doing colon cleansing over the last
week and I think that has helped alot .
First time ever for me and I was kind of shocked
by the "results " . Sparing the details , lol
but man ... And I have been totally veggie and
organic for a couple if year now .
I guess I still had residual build up from my
life as a meat and serous coffee drinker .

Personally I think it's smarter to detox more
slowly overtime. I remember once I did a
detox and I was so sick I was bedridden for
nearly a week . Back in my days as a carnivore.

All things going well with the cleanse, I will move
into a water fast for solstice when I'm done

[astrid]

Sleeping is a bit odd
My brain is exhausted but my body is
awake and energized

[astrid]

Third glass of salts was a challenge
Will have to add more lemon with last one
in 30 mins or so ... Then done with the
concoctions . Ugh . Not feeling sick which
is a bonus . Some slight headaches that's
all . Reading up again on the " afterwards "
stage so I do this all right. Don't have to go
anywhere today so will just rest and journey

Need to look into whether or not I have access
to prof colonics here, might be worthwhile doing
next week to make sure I have cleared everything

[RunningDeer]

Posted by astrid (here)
Third glass of salts was a challenge
Will have to add more lemon with last one
in 30 mins or so ... Then done with the
concoctions . Ugh . Not feeling sick which
is a bonus . Some slight headaches that's
all . Reading up again on the " afterwards "
stage so I do this all right. Don't have to go
anywhere today so will just rest and journey

Need to look into whether or not I have access
to prof colonics here, might be worthwhile doing
next week to make sure I have cleared everything

Thanks for recording your journey, Astrid. One point, if you are using Andreas Moritz as your source, then waiting a week for a professional colonics is too long. I’ll quote paragraph #2, from the section he’s labelled:

Important! Please read carefully:

“It is likely that, on their way out, some gallstones will be caught in the colon. They can quickly be removed through colonic irrigation. This should ideally be done on the second or third day after the liver flush. If gallstones remain in the colon, they can cause irritation, infection, headaches, abdominal discomfort, thyroid problems, and so one. These stones can eventually become a source of toxemia in the body. If colonics are not available where you live, you can take a coffee enema followed by a water enema, or else, do two or three consecutive water enemas...” “...If you settle for anything less than a colonic irrigation or Colema enema, mix one level teaspoon of Epsom salts with one glass of warm water and drink it first thing in the morning on the day of any other chosen colon cleanse following the liver flush...”

This is Andreas Moritz's free eBook: "Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation," which includes a chapter on the liver gallbladder cleanse.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[astrid]

Yeah was just reading that
Going to make some calls today

Thanks