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    AwakeInADream;
    This is where you can start. I read the book in late 2009. The information has now exploded all over the internet, I have not been keeping track.

    Seeking the Devine Code of life
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lo72IeriuDY

    The God Code pdf. From some of the tables & information here you can begin constructing the name.
    http://www.mediaspotlight.org/pdfs/THEGODCODE.pdf

    Periodic table pdf.
    http://go.hrw.com/resources/go_sc/periodic/SSHK1PER.PDF
    Thank's! I recognize Gregg Bradan, I've seen him before,
    talking about how the higher vibration of love can activate unused DNA.
    That will make for some interesting reading...
    So it wasn't the atomic weight, it was the simple mass, that explains it.

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    billyji; There is no way I can get a good resolution even with expanding the images here.
    Suggestion would be that you examine whole plaque and pendant. The black spars that radiate from the center have fine Hebrew characters in all of them, you need a magnifying glass to see them and there is no way an electronic scanner can pick them out. For this project you need your eyeball and use all the computing wetware (software) of the mind you can muster up.
    Private message me your mailing address and I will send both items for you to examine. When you are finished send them back and post your research and drawings on this board. I am very curious of what you will find!


    I emailed Darren Stein regarding the pendant, I found him here, http://www.squidoo.com/lensmasters/KabbalArt.

    This is his reply.

    Hi William

    Thank you for your email. I had a look at the amulet on the link you provided and attached it to this document.

    There are 60 repetitions of the sacred name of Yahaweh (Hebrew: Yud-Hey-Vav-Hey). Jews are not allowed to openly say or write the sacred name of G-d on any item other than a holy text, so in this case the letters have been rearranged into a mix which avoids writing the name in the correct order so that the amulet still displays the protective quality of the name, but diminishes the holliness so as to avoid disrespect to G-d.

    There are two Magen David's (Stars of David) at the centre of the amulet with multiple directional stars eminating outwards. These are surrounded by G-d's names indicating that G-d is omnipresent. The variations on the star and triangle are evident in numerous Kabbalistic and mystical symbols.

    The numbers of repitions probably allude to categories of time: 60 names, 24 flames, 12 points on the outer star, etc.

    This would be my precursary analysis without being able to examine the amulet itself.

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    And the magic number 24 and DNA comes yet again. Thanks to WhiteCrowBlackDeer posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...164#post586164

    Nevine z Rottinger speaks about the 24 different star children groups on our planet at this time. As a clairvoyant Nevine sees 24 different frequencies in the children's field, also different variations in the resonance of their DNA. Each of these groups are bringing an opportunity for humanity.

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    http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Database.asp?Gem_Num=24

    This is a link to an excellent resource I often use for looking up the Gematria
    numerical values of Hebrew and Greek words in the Bible.

    The link will take you to directly to the search results for the number 24.
    The name David is 24, as is Love and Father.

    The site is called Biblewheel.com, and it's full of interesting stuff about Biblical numerology.

    This may come in useful, as there are a lot of things hidden within the Gematria.

    For instance 'The Tree of Knowledge' is 233, and 'The Garden of Eden' is 144.
    These reveal an approximation of The Golden Ratio like so 233/144=1.618055556.

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    It`s interesting to notice a progression in the book of revelation.
    It starts as a message but despite glooms and dooms there is always a reminder to what will happen if people turn theirselves to light love and justice. This is very significant as a reminder of our choice.

    It`s not God who does it (ultimately it is ) it is us who cause various scenarios to emerge.

    End is a perfectly good deal; God dwells with humanity.
    Literary.

    It`s a long way until then but eventually it arrives. Here`s the clue of why humanity is under such an interest of many races out there...
    Love, love - and see what happens

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    Thank You Billyji, for sharing Your story here!

    From a Friend...this may add some revelations to Your Revelations...
    many of You may find this rather interesting if You do not already know of it:


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    Thank you eagle, I mention Mauro on the first page of this thread, with the link to the existing thread here. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...iterally-UFO-s

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    Thank you eagle, I mention Mauro on the first page of this thread, with the link to the existing thread here. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...iterally-UFO-s

    Peace
    Thanks billyji....I missed that, had a feeling that You were already tied into this as it resonates and correlates with Your experiences.

    Seems it is all meant to be noticed and downloaded as it has been brought fourth a number of times just today here at Avalon.

    Once again, thank you for sharing your experiences...it is all coming together at an ever-increasing rate : )

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    Thankyou eaglespirit, breathtaking information, i will be interested in reading more from this man and also back to the Old Testament, thanks again,

    lokkbeyond

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    I crashed into this book today when researching the 24 Elders. This rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper!



    “The human astral soul is both an alien parasite or symbiote, and a natural part of a human being.” It seems the reason our DNA looks “artificial or alien” is because the “human astral souls” have changed it over the last 36,000 years. This proves that thought directs matter and where the focus is directed energy flows. Also with 7 billion people on this planet we have many astral souls from all over the Universe adding to the complexity of the Human Genome. I am giving you two links: one for the 1988 self published book and the 2008 summary.



    War in Heaven. by Kyle Griffith

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...heaven-III.htm



    Below is a quote from chapter

    Chapter 21:

    Hitch-Hiking Spirits


    Quote
    Q. Please continue explaining how intelligent life is created. Especially, I’d like to know more about the relationship between the body and the soul.


    A. The human astral soul is both an alien parasite or symbiote, and a natural part of a human being. All mammals have astral souls, but the astral soul of a human being is extremely different from the astral soul of an ape. Human beings were radically altered by psychokinetic genetic manipulation to become physically different from other apes.


    The brain, the hands, the sense organs, the general musculature, and the organs used in standing and walking erect are all very different in humans than they are in apes. However, the scientists who recently started mapping the DNA structure of anthropoid apes found it much more similar to that of humans from what they had expected.


    And when genetic science begins to learn the details of how random mutations usually change the DNA structure, the scientists will discover that the genetic differences between apes and humans don’t fit the usual patterns. They’ll realize that the particular loops in the DNA molecule that causes the genetic differences between people and apes have an artificial or alien look to them.


    That’s because they actually are artificial: changes made by spirits from other worlds that were familiar with genetic patterns different from those on Earth.


    The somatic soul of the human species was genetically altered just as radically as the body, and is also very different from the somatic soul of an ape. The human somatic soul’s nervous system is much more highly developed for transmitting and using astral energy, and the attachment point for the astral soul is much more highly developed.


    This attachment point allows any human astral soul to incarnate, including those used to incarnating in bodies very different from human bodies on Earth. In other words, there is a sort of standardization among human-type bodies on many different worlds to allow them to be linked to a wide variety of astral souls. There are often problems of astral tissue-compatibility if body and soul are too different, but it is still possible for many different types of astral souls from many different worlds to incarnate on Earth.


    One of the chief characteristics of intelligent beings compared with similar non-intelligent beings is that both the body and the astral soul show strong evidence of neoteny. For example, many scientists on Earth have noticed that an adult human being retains many physical characteristics found in an anthropoid ape during infancy or childhood, but lost as it matures.


    When a neotenous salamander like an axolotl retains its gills while becoming sexually mature, the resulting neotenous adult is physiologically more primitive, meaning that there is less specialization of the tissues and organs than in a normal adult of the same species. Human beings are physiologically more primitive than other large primates such as gorillas, baboons, or chimpanzees. This is especially true of the voluntary musculature. It is well known that all the great apes far exceed human beings in relative strength, because of differences in the muscle structure. Notice too that there’s a marked gender-difference in humans in muscle structure as well.


    The adult female, with her smoother voluntary muscles and a more extensive layer of subcutaneous fat, is more primitive and more neotenous than the adult male.

    Here is summary of the above Kyle Griffith’s book The Invisible College: War in Heaven by Gerry Zeitlin
    Please direct your attention to the section on the summary of “Hitch-hiking Spirits”. There is also a section on gods.

    Quote Gods

    The Invisible College has stated that Gods don't exist. That statement is completely true in the context in which they used it. Throughout human history on Earth, some spirits have pretended to be Gods, using a definition of the term that allows them to rule over human beings without being accountable for their actions. These definitions assert that Gods are greatly superior to humans in wisdom and morality, encouraging people to let deities deny them their rights to consent of the governed.

    However, the human spirits making these claims are simply lying.


    They are not superior to ordinary people except in possessing certain forms of knowledge and power; and in moral terms they are significantly inferior because their very existence depends on enslaving and exploiting living people and other disembodied spirits. Since pretending to be Gods is one of the chief sources of Theocratic power, the Invisible College attacked it very strongly in an earlier section of this book.

    Now it is time to look at spiritual reality from an even larger perspective, and to deal with the idea that intelligent beings greater than humans actually exist. There are two types, "elementals" and "Gods," and their description will begin in the next section of this book. However, this segment concludes with the assurance that everything previously stated about Gods and human rights still stands.


    The elementals and Gods that are about to be described are still not morally superior to humans, and it is our duty - the duty of advanced human civilizations on other worlds and people on Earth as well ­ to stand up to these beings and demand our rights as sovereign individuals.

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...rheaven-II.htm
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    Thank you eagle, I mention Mauro on the first page of this thread, with the link to the existing thread here. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...iterally-UFO-s

    Peace
    Thanks billyji....I missed that, had a feeling that You were already tied into this as it resonates and correlates with Your experiences.

    Seems it is all meant to be noticed and downloaded as it has been brought fourth a number of times just today here at Avalon.

    Once again, thank you for sharing your experiences...it is all coming together at an ever-increasing rate : )
    It's just another one of those coincidences that I believe will soon be understood by all

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    I crashed into this book today when researching the 24 Elders. This rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper!

    Excellent TOTHE, Thank you for taking the time and effort in going deeper down the rabbit hole.

    Peace

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    Peace

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    Quote Posted by TOTHE (here)
    I crashed into this book today when researching the 24 Elders. This rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper!



    “The human astral soul is both an alien parasite or symbiote, and a natural part of a human being.” It seems the reason our DNA looks “artificial or alien” is because the “human astral souls” have changed it over the last 36,000 years. This proves that thought directs matter and where the focus is directed energy flows. Also with 7 billion people on this planet we have many astral souls from all over the Universe adding to the complexity of the Human Genome. I am giving you two links: one for the 1988 self published book and the 2008 summary.



    War in Heaven. by Kyle Griffith

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...heaven-III.htm



    Below is a quote from chapter

    Chapter 21:

    Hitch-Hiking Spirits


    Quote
    Q. Please continue explaining how intelligent life is created. Especially, I’d like to know more about the relationship between the body and the soul.


    A. The human astral soul is both an alien parasite or symbiote, and a natural part of a human being. All mammals have astral souls, but the astral soul of a human being is extremely different from the astral soul of an ape. Human beings were radically altered by psychokinetic genetic manipulation to become physically different from other apes.


    The brain, the hands, the sense organs, the general musculature, and the organs used in standing and walking erect are all very different in humans than they are in apes. However, the scientists who recently started mapping the DNA structure of anthropoid apes found it much more similar to that of humans from what they had expected.


    And when genetic science begins to learn the details of how random mutations usually change the DNA structure, the scientists will discover that the genetic differences between apes and humans don’t fit the usual patterns. They’ll realize that the particular loops in the DNA molecule that causes the genetic differences between people and apes have an artificial or alien look to them.


    That’s because they actually are artificial: changes made by spirits from other worlds that were familiar with genetic patterns different from those on Earth.


    The somatic soul of the human species was genetically altered just as radically as the body, and is also very different from the somatic soul of an ape. The human somatic soul’s nervous system is much more highly developed for transmitting and using astral energy, and the attachment point for the astral soul is much more highly developed.


    This attachment point allows any human astral soul to incarnate, including those used to incarnating in bodies very different from human bodies on Earth. In other words, there is a sort of standardization among human-type bodies on many different worlds to allow them to be linked to a wide variety of astral souls. There are often problems of astral tissue-compatibility if body and soul are too different, but it is still possible for many different types of astral souls from many different worlds to incarnate on Earth.


    One of the chief characteristics of intelligent beings compared with similar non-intelligent beings is that both the body and the astral soul show strong evidence of neoteny. For example, many scientists on Earth have noticed that an adult human being retains many physical characteristics found in an anthropoid ape during infancy or childhood, but lost as it matures.


    When a neotenous salamander like an axolotl retains its gills while becoming sexually mature, the resulting neotenous adult is physiologically more primitive, meaning that there is less specialization of the tissues and organs than in a normal adult of the same species. Human beings are physiologically more primitive than other large primates such as gorillas, baboons, or chimpanzees. This is especially true of the voluntary musculature. It is well known that all the great apes far exceed human beings in relative strength, because of differences in the muscle structure. Notice too that there’s a marked gender-difference in humans in muscle structure as well.


    The adult female, with her smoother voluntary muscles and a more extensive layer of subcutaneous fat, is more primitive and more neotenous than the adult male.

    Here is summary of the above Kyle Griffith’s book The Invisible College: War in Heaven by Gerry Zeitlin
    Please direct your attention to the section on the summary of “Hitch-hiking Spirits”. There is also a section on gods.

    Quote Gods

    The Invisible College has stated that Gods don't exist. That statement is completely true in the context in which they used it. Throughout human history on Earth, some spirits have pretended to be Gods, using a definition of the term that allows them to rule over human beings without being accountable for their actions. These definitions assert that Gods are greatly superior to humans in wisdom and morality, encouraging people to let deities deny them their rights to consent of the governed.

    However, the human spirits making these claims are simply lying.


    They are not superior to ordinary people except in possessing certain forms of knowledge and power; and in moral terms they are significantly inferior because their very existence depends on enslaving and exploiting living people and other disembodied spirits. Since pretending to be Gods is one of the chief sources of Theocratic power, the Invisible College attacked it very strongly in an earlier section of this book.

    Now it is time to look at spiritual reality from an even larger perspective, and to deal with the idea that intelligent beings greater than humans actually exist. There are two types, "elementals" and "Gods," and their description will begin in the next section of this book. However, this segment concludes with the assurance that everything previously stated about Gods and human rights still stands.


    The elementals and Gods that are about to be described are still not morally superior to humans, and it is our duty - the duty of advanced human civilizations on other worlds and people on Earth as well ­ to stand up to these beings and demand our rights as sovereign individuals.

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...rheaven-II.htm
    Hi All, just spent some time reading above link on theocracy- sounds nasty-does anyone wish to discuss?

    Thanks in advance, lookbeyond addit- billyji if this is wrong thread to discuss on, im happy to repost elsewhere lb
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    Shall i begin? Does anyone else find the thought of the invisible college and its rival of theocracy somewhat too bad to be true? To me it seems as if the theocrats have an unfair advantage- thats if they exist- and i hope they dont- because the eating of souls is too ghastly to contemplate

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    Shall i begin? Does anyone else find the thought of the invisible college and its rival of theocracy somewhat too bad to be true? To me it seems as if the theocrats have an unfair advantage- thats if they exist- and i hope they dont- because the eating of souls is too ghastly to contemplate

    lookbeyond
    I am still digging and digesting. Looking for summaries to get a better handle on it. I highlighted part of the text in item # 19.

    WiH forum (read only)
    http://revolutionaryspiritualism.yuk.../War-in-Heaven

    Text from Appendices
    http://revolutionaryspiritualism.yuk...WiH-Appendices
    Quote Appendix C: Summary - A Revolutionary Cosmology

    1 The human soul is composed of astral matter, which is different in subatomic composition from physical matter but still follows the same general set of natural laws. The soul is a complex biological entity just as the body is, and it is not immortal or imperishable. Like any living thing, it can grow, and repair its own tissues, but it can also be wounded or sicken and die. It also requires nourishment, which it obtains from the body while incarnated. The human body converts some of the chemical energy from the food it ingests into astral energy, which nourishes the soul.

    2 After the physical body dies, the soul can survive temporarily in a disembodied state, living on energy it stored while incarnated. Disembodied souls (spirits) can also absorb astral energy radiated by living people who are in states of consciousness that activate their psychic powers - sexual orgasm, religious ecstasy, etc.; but this energy is not usually enough to nourish them adequately. Spirits can also drain astral energy directly from other spirits. Such spiritual vampirism and cannibalism is one of the principal causes of the War in Heaven.

    3 The spirit world (astral plane) is not "the natural abode of the soul" as so much religious literature asserts, but is a harsh and hostile environment; many souls do not survive when they enter it after physical death. The astral plane is a condition, not a place. We can't see spiritual beings because the astral matter of which they are made does not reflect or absorb ordinary light, but they are all around us, all the time, right here on the surface of the Earth.

    4 Some disembodied spirits can use their psychic powers to communicate with each other and with living people. Since the telepathic faculty of an average Earth person is locked deep in the subconscious mind, psychic communications from spirits and from other people usually are recorded directly in the subconscious memory banks without the knowledge or approval of the conscious mind. Because of this, disembodied spirits and living psychics can practice a form of mind control that most people find very difficult to detect or resist.

    5 After physical death, some human souls become "Theocrats." They refuse to reincarnate, but stay disembodied indefinitely. Theocrats maintain political power over other spirits by falsely claiming to be gods, sustaining themselves by feeding off the vital energies of others. The Theocrats use certain forms of organized religion to enslave the souls of believers after death, and they oppose all efforts by living people to build a truly advanced civilization on Earth.

    6 The psychic powers of the Theocrats are not strong enough to allow them to paralyze the will of a living person and simply take over direct control of his or her conscious mind. Instead, they practice mind control by telepathically reprogramming the subconscious of anyone who is in the correct state of consciousness to be vulnerable. Until recently, the Theocrats most often practiced this mind control during religious rituals, but they now also practice it on people who are watching television or listening to recorded music. It is no accident that so many people have compared the hero worship of media stars with the religious worship of gods. The purpose of both is the same: to enslave people to the Theocrats.

    7 The cruelest Theocratic deception of all is the religious promise of "eternal life in Heaven." Everyone who enters 'Heaven" after death is really entering a Theocratic band. A few of the souls who become entrapped in such bands will eventually become Theocrats themselves. The rest will be devoured. And the concept that human souls can become immortal only by remaining on the astral plane with the "gods" is a lie anyway. A soul can survive almost indefinitely simply by reincarnating for life after life on Earth, and it can grow in wisdom and psychic power during the process.

    8 The War in Heaven is an effort by another group of spirits, called the "Invisible College" in this book, to break the control of the Theocrats over the human race and allow people to continue their natural spiritual and cultural evolution. The subconscious telepathic manipulations of the Invisible College are responsible for most of what is good in modern civilization.

    9 Some of the spirits in the Invisible College have been sent here deliberately by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that possess sufficient psychic technology to teleport souls over interstellar distances. These extraterrestrial spirits are partly motivated by altruism, but they are also serving the interest of their own societies. The Theocrats are potentially dangerous to the inhabitants of other worlds because they are perverting the natural capacity of the human soul to form god-like composite entities.

    10 The human race exists in two forms: individual and composite. The individual form consists of a soul incarnated in a body, and is a complete living creature that can perform all life functions, including reproduction. An individual disembodied human soul cannot reproduce on its own. Every soul was originally created by a human body, and the body cannot survive without a soul. If a disembodied soul does not incarnate into an infant, a new soul forms through a natural embryonic process.

    11 However, the human soul also has the potential to fore a composite entity similar to the group soul that a colony of social insects possesses. Instead of attaching themselves to bodies, a large number of disembodied souls attach themselves together, creating a composite entity with the potential to develop a conscious intelligence separate from that of the individual souls contained in it. If this entity possesses only an animal mind and emotions, it is called an Elemental Spirit. If it develops full creative intelligence and becomes a moral, rational being, it is called a God. (However, it is important to realize
    that such a God has little in common with the Theocratic impostors who have been posing as gods on Earth throughout history.)

    12 Both Elementals and Gods are complete living beings capable of reproduction, and they are not dependent on the human body to supply them with nourishment, because they can directly absorb the astral energy radiated into space by certain kinds of stars. However, they cannot do this while they are on or near the surface of a planet, but only while traveling through deep space.

    13 When planet-bound, both Elementals and Gods can obtain the energy needed for life and growth only from psychic emanations of living people or by absorbing other disembodied spirits. In their embryonic stages, the Gods are just as parasitic on the living human race as the Theocrats are; of course, a human embryo is a parasite on its mother, too.

    14 The natural course of human evolution on a planet is a grim and animalistic one, dictated by iron laws of ecology. It is natural for human civilizations to develop under the complete control of Theocratic spirits, and to make slow but steady technological progress that eventually allows the living population to increase into the billions. Such a society allows little opportunity for individual freedom or personal psychic development, and most souls that survive for more than a few incarnations do so only by becoming Theocrats.

    15 Eventually, human overpopulation begins to destroy the planet's biosphere, and deaths begin to exceed births by hundreds of millions every year. Theocratic bands on the astral plane became larger and larger, and some of them develop minds of their own and turn into Elemental spirits. The Elementals devour most of the Theocrats who are running the civilization, which then collapses, causing the living population to drop even further. At this point, the Elementals depart into space and the whole cycle begins again, unless the planet has been too badly damaged to support human life any more.

    16 These Elementals are extremely dangerous to people on other worlds. They have the minds and emotions of predatory animals. Whenever they approach an inhabited planet, they remember devouring human souls as infants and attack this concentrated supply of food. An advanced human civilization with a high level of psychic technology can survive such an attack, but only by fighting a desperate war and suffering heavy casualties. This is why the extraterrestrial spirits are now on Earth: to interfere with this process both for our sake and for their own.

    17 If they succeed in winning this War in Heaven, new Gods will be formed instead of destructive Elementals when Earth's population reaches the die-off point; and with luck, a new advanced civilization of individual human beings will also be born.

    18 There is very little that ordinary Earth people can do to assist the extraterrestrial spirits in their direct psychic battles with the Theocrats and the Elementals that the latter control. The Invisible College recruits a few advanced magicians to fight in this phase of the War in Heaven, but anyone with enough spiritual knowledge and psychic training to qualify already knew everything in this book before reading it. Most attempts to recruit Earth people to fight in the War in Heaven using operational magic are Theocratic deceptions.

    19 What then does the Invisible College want people to do to assist in winning the War in Heaven? The most important thing you can do if you agree with the basic thesis of this book is to ensure your own survival after death, by avoiding all forms of Theocratic mind control and by developing as much conscious control over your psychic powers as you can. Stay away from religious and occult groups that practice religious mind control, and don't become addicted to popular music or the electronic media; but do work with occult or New Age groups that teach people how to take charge of their own spiritual destiny.

    20 War In Heaven contains many negative, frightening ideas, but it is essentially a positive book. It is very probable that the Invisible College will win over the Theocrats, and that most of the human race will survive to enter a New Age. The only people who won't survive will be those who die and are swallowed up in Theocratic bands before this happens. The goal of the Spiritual Revolutionary movement is to allow as many people as possible to avoid this fate by spreading the message in this book and helping them to make a breakthrough in consciousness about the nature of spiritual reality

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    A New Direction.

    Hi guys, I was house/pet sitting a week ago and had 24/7 internet connection, Which was great, but now i am limited again to visiting the post office for my connection.

    As we are rapidly approaching a very special time frame in the history of humanity. A positive one i may add, That is if humanity responds within a balanced energy field at this time. The outcome could change the destiny of all creation.

    I would like to discuss " The Only Planet of Choice" The book that I posted in the OP. Tom shares with us almost 40yrs ago now that humanity and the "Others" as he names those that are working against the betterment of humanity for their own agendas. Those Others and Us are allowing not just planet earth but the whole of the created Universe to be out of balance. But humanity can assist in bringing all in to balance. If fact Humanity is the only answer to bring humanity, Our planet and Galaxy and the rest of the created universe into balance.

    It is up to us.

    I leave you with this to study. Then i will return in a day or so.

    Peace be with you all.

    I quote from the book.

    ANDREW: Now, in this Universe, there are worlds of matter, antimatter, photons, rays, energies, particles and more. Which part of this domain do you exist in, or is it beyond our comprehension?

    Tom: It is beyond your comprehension. We come from the zone that is cold. This is perfection.

    ANDREW: You know, on Earth we are just beginning to understand, very feebly, the zone of cold or superconductivity, and we know that there is no resistance there, no friction, in other words, in our simple notion, it is the area of perpetual motion. Is that not essentially true?

    Tom: This is true and this is perfection. We are in the centre. And we do not wish to sound as if we are perfect or as if we are egotistical,
    but on either side of us there is the positive and there is the negative. And when I say this I mean there is the positive that is not balanced, and there is the negative that is not balanced. We are in the centre, and we are balanced. We are trying to bring those other forces into balance. We have never been out of balance. It is other things in the Universe that are not in balance. We exist at the pivotal point of the Universe. There is a balance. Within each of you there is all of the positive and all of the negative of the Universe. Do you understand?

    ANDREW: No, I don't. Because you told us once that you were neither on the good nor bad side, you were the pivot in between.
    Tom: Yes. But do you understand that you are the balance of this?

    JOHN: We have all of the good and all of the bad ... ?

    Tom: That's why you are the balance. And why we are the balance. You understand matter and anti-matter?

    Tom: There is balance within all. What causes the great dissension is a similar situation to putting together matter and anti-matter. They cannot mingle, they cannot mix in harmony, they cannot blend, they become destructive to each other.
    Here again, Andrew has another exchange with Tom on duality: and Tom takes several attempts to clarify the picture for him:

    ANDREW: We do have difficulty understanding what is negative and what is positive, in respect of what is called 'good' and 'bad' on the human level.


    Tom: It is difficult in your physical world for you to truly understand the importance of both. I will try to explain in a manner in which you may understand. It would be similar to a giant scale. We are in the pivot of this giant scale. Visualize the Universe with the pivot being us. On one side of the Universe, visualize that all is negative, and all on the other side is positive. And as you see this, you know that there is a complete out-of-balance situation. It is difficult for us to explain this so that you may understand. Within each of the sides there are many ... I will explain it in earthly terms: As each of the galaxies and solar systems within the galaxies… first I must clarify: The Universe, with the Nine in the centre, has four sides, the side opposite that in which you exist and the other two are all in balance. Do you understand?

    ANDREW: Yes, I'm following.

    Tom: It is in perfect balance. On this side we will now place your solar systems within your galaxies and the galaxies. If you would take a stone for each of these galaxies, if they were in perfect weight and perfect proportion to the rest of the three sides, then this would be also in balance. But if one of those stones were of a porous substance, and if you placed it in oil, and it absorbed the oil, and became weighted with the oil, then in turn it would upset the balance and pull the balance and the scale out of calibration, and would upset the other side of the Universe. Your Planet is accomplishing that. The negative is the heavy oil. Remember: the other sides are balanced, but this imbalance can in turn topple the rest. That is not correct. In actuality there is no good and there is no bad. It is only when one of them becomes sour or rotten that it then contaminates the rest, be it good or bad. Because of the ignorance of the peoples of Planet Earth, and because their religious leaders have taught ignorance, your negative forces, which do not truly appear as you see them, manifest in that way in order to instill fear. But what is truly negative - listen carefully - what has created the upset, besides the desires and the greed, is the complete denial and misinterpretation of the existence of ultimate reality. Your over-population is because of the trapping of spirits, because of reincarnation. So the Earth people, the souls and spirits that surround your Earth need to release themselves of greed and desire, because that is the trap. Your religious leaders do not understand this and do not teach the people.
    Remember that in you is a seed of purity and beauty, and that if you do not maintain a balance, ugliness or an ugly part may appear. But remember forgiveness. We hold no animosity within us, and you should not do so either. Even though you exist upon a physical planet and the densest of all the planets in the Universe, remember that all souls may be saved. The only thing of which we are unforgiving is in the denunciation of God...

    ANDREW: Yes, I understand I think at times there have been occasions we have been guilty of that attitude.

    Tom: This is a truth. But remember to forgive when there is true acknowledgement. May we say to you, to voice what you feel is one thing, but it is the act that is important. There are many actors upon the world's stage that play a different part than what they feel. It is when they begin to feel they are that part, not themselves, that it makes a big difference. They may say they love God, and they may say that they have understanding, but if they do not act in that way, then that is a graver problem, because it is not done in ignorance. It is the same as when you give to another because you believe it obligates the other to give back, then what you give is not gold, it is black and putrid. We wish you also to know that we do not have the need to be worshipped. Our need from you is to be loved.
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    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


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    ...
    Tom: It is difficult in your physical world for you to truly understand the importance of both. I will try to explain in a manner in which you may understand. It would be similar to a giant scale. We are in the pivot of this giant scale. Visualize the Universe with the pivot being us. On one side of the Universe, visualize that all is negative, and all on the other side is positive. And as you see this, you know that there is a complete out-of-balance situation. It is difficult for us to explain this so that you may understand. Within each of the sides there are many ... I will explain it in earthly terms: As each of the galaxies and solar systems within the galaxies… first I must clarify: The Universe, with the Nine in the centre, has four sides, the side opposite that in which you exist and the other two are all in balance. Do you understand?
    ...
    Inspiring reading. Made me think of a short film
    I seen some years ago. Found it and here it is:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=1CTesYaduBA

    Balance - Animation short film, released in 1989.
    Directed and produced by Wolfgang and Christoph Lauenstein
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_%28film%29

    A supplement to all the words.
    This can illustrate many things,
    from group dynamics to bigger issues.

    Be well.

    nm

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    billyji;

    Their example of the Universe as three sides and keeping balance was hard for me to visualize. In my four years of meditation I have changed my personal interpretation to be a four sided tetrahedron. This fits me perfectly to construct the engine for the balance of consciousness of the universe. The sides are named: Unbalanced Negative, Balanced Negative, Balanced Positive and Unbalanced Positive. The Nine have said that the Negative entropic are one of the constructive forces of the Universe in Dolores Cannon’s most recent book.

    In my trance state I use the Tetrahedron Solid to express myself as an entity. I usually position myself attached by silver cord between Earth and Venus and just hang out. This is to get away from the astral jabbering and EMR noise around Earth. I need peace and quite to soak up the DNA upgrade information contained in the radiation from the Sun and Deep Space. I think it works too and a lot of fun, I am darn healthy for my age.

    Chapters 13 & 14 of Dolores Cannon’s The Three Waves of volunteers and The New Earth has a discussion with two reincarnated entities of the Council of Nine. You can get this book at Barnes & Nobel..it took the Wife two months to finish it, I just started reading it this week.

    The Law of One Search Results for ‘council of nine’ the 24 Elders are mentioned too.
    http://lawofone.info/results.php?q=c...0&v=e&l=30&o=r

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    Four is correct TOTHE. Our universe and 3 others.
    Quote from above post.
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    A New Direction.
    I will explain it in earthly terms: As each of the galaxies and solar systems within the galaxies… first I must clarify: The Universe, with the Nine in the centre, has four sides, the side opposite that in which you exist and the other two are all in balance. Do you understand?
    I think the Hindu, Celtic and Tibetan mandalas and American Indian Sand drawings represents the four Universes. Or the Four Directions.

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    billyji;

    The Law of One Search Results for ‘council of nine’ the 24 Elders are mentioned too.
    http://lawofone.info/results.php?q=c...0&v=e&l=30&o=r
    Thank you. I did not know the 24 were mentioned in the Law of One. Excellent.

    Quote:

    Questioner: You mentioned the nine who sit on the Council. Is this “nine” the same nine as those mentioned in this book? (Questioner gestures to Uri.)

    Ra: I am Ra. The Council of Nine has been retained in semi-undistorted form by two main sources, that known in your naming, as Mark and that known in your naming as Henry. In one case, the channel became the scribe. In the other, the channel was not the scribe. However, without the aid of the scribe, the energy would not have come to the channel.

    39.9 Questioner: I see. “The Nine” describe themselves as the “nine principals of God.” Can you tell me what they mean by that?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is also a veiled statement. The attempt is made to indicate that the nine who sit upon the Council are those representing the Creator, the One Creator, just as there may be nine witnesses in a courtroom testifying for one defendant. The term principal has this meaning also.

    The desire of the scribe may be seen in much of this material to have affected the manner of its presentation just as the abilities and preferences of this group determine the nature of this contact. The difference lies in the fact that we are as we are. Thus we may either speak as we will or not speak at all. This demands a very tuned, shall we say, group.

    7.9 Questioner: I have a question about that Council. Who are the members, and how does the Council function?

    Ra: I am Ra. The members of the Council are representatives from the Confederation and from those vibratory levels of your inner planes bearing responsibility for your third density. The names are not important because there are no names. Your mind/body/spirit complexes request names and so, in many cases, the vibratory sound complexes which are consonant with the vibratory distortions of each entity are used. However, the name concept is not part of the Council. If names are requested, we will attempt them. However, not all have chosen names.

    In number, the Council that sits in constant session, though varying in its members by means of balancing, which takes place, what you would call irregularly, is nine. That is the Session Council. To back up this Council, there are twenty-four entities which offer their services as requested. These entities faithfully watch and have been called the Guardians.

    The Council operates by means of, what you would call, telepathic contact with the oneness or unity of the nine, the distortions blending harmoniously so that the Law of One prevails with ease. When a need for thought is present, the Council retains the distortion-complex of this need, balancing it as described, and then recommends what it considers as appropriate action. This includes: One, the duty of admitting social memory complexes to the Confederation; Two, offering aid to those who are unsure how to aid the social memory complex requesting aid in a way consonant with both the call, the Law, and the number of those calling (that is to say, sometimes the resistance of the call); Three, internal questions in the Council are determined.

    These are the prominent duties of the Council. They are, if in any doubt, able to contact the twenty-four who then offer consensus/judgment/thinking to the Council. The Council then may reconsider any question.
    When you express from a fearful heart in the now moment, You create a fearful future.
    When you express from a loving heart in the now moment, You create a loving future.

    Have no fear, Be aware and live your lives journey from a compassionate caring nurturing heart to manifest a compassionate caring nurturing future. Billyji


    Peace

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