left brain - right brain... which one do you use?

[thunder24]

when i scrolled up and down the page, it was obvious she started spinning a different way, like i would hit a certain spot on the page scroling and she turned opposite...
it randomly changed
not convinced...

peace

[christian]

Posted by TargeT (here)
since its a 2d image she's not really turning any direction, its all about perception & that is why this test "works"

Every image on a screen is 2d, but still, when I film a woman turning and look at the film on a screen, she would just turn in one direction of course. It's the same with this silhouette in my eyes.

I believe, that you can see it differently, due to the fact that it may be harder to figure out, because you don't have all the reference points you'd normally have. But right now all I can see is her clearly turning clockwise.

Posted by TargeT (here)
Try looking at it upside down like wonderingrogue did.. haha..

For a slight moment I thought this would do the trick, but no, still clockwise.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by thunder24 (here)
it randomly changed
not convinced...

It was changing so rapidly for me, that I was seriously wondering the same thing thunder, maybe just a fun little psychological mind f**k.(LOL) Then just a few minutes ago, the lady next door came over for some dog food while our tiny dancer was still up on the screen. I asked her what she thought as we watched together, and soon enough we started seeing her spin the opposite ways from one another. That eased my suspicions.

Cheers,
Fred

[Hervé]

Posted by TargeT (here)
[...]

since its a 2d image she's not really turning any direction, its all about perception & that is why this test "works"; I suppose it's not very surprising that the majority of people on this forum (I'd wager almost all) are "right" brain dominant.

[...]

Correct about the 2D picture not rotating... however, the sequence of pictures do describe a 3D rotation full circle and NOT a mere oscillation from side to side.

But I let you find out which way the 2D graphic rendition of the 3D motion is actually and factually rotating

Edit:

See this post <---

[thunder24]

ok i can do it now... i think of one emotional thing and it makes it go clockwise...which is sad
I think of another emotional thing or something i want and it goes counter clockwise...

I admit i had to close both eyes and concentrate on the subject and then i could even feel tingles on my head, but when i opened eyes sure enough it changed directions

[Spirithorse]

Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, very interesting to read.

Posted by christian (here)
How strange.

I can't even see her turning counter-clockwise if I tried.

When a look at it, it seems abundantly clear to me that she is rotating clockwise. I mean that as a fact. I don't get how you could perceive that any other way, I mean I'm trying to, but I honestly don't get it. "Objectively" she is turning clockwise, isn't she? I mean, this is a silhoutte, but it's still a woman turning. And she cannot turn in both directions simultaneously, so only one observation can be "correct" there, I'd wager?

Christian, I'm not surprised that you're at home in the right brain :-)
Believe me, when I first looked at it I couldn't see it any other way than counter-clockwise... like you, I couldn't even imagine how it could change.

After some practice I now can flip it at will.
Is a bit like these subliminal pictures where you can see either way (like the famous 'two faces or goblet' picture).

Fred:

Most convincing your experience - 2 people, two directions at the same time.
Thank you for sharing... proves, it's a mind-thing.

[deridan]

http://www.bioenergy-services.com/Meditation.htm

a useful document describing alpha, beta, gamma and theta [brain]waves,
and how these relate to integration and functioning[.when.] of the hemispheres

[angelahedgehog]

An observation ....

Everyone saw the image twirl, some clockwise, some anti-clockwise and some both. It is a clever optical illusion made up of a sequence of images each one obscures whether your seeing the front or the back of the dancer by using a silhouette. So it does indeed appear to turn in either and both directions simultaneously - it's neither actually because its just a collection of still images, animated sequentially to simulate movement.

I was interested in the opinions that the observer was convinced it only went in one direction, and despite several other posts claiming it did, were still not convinced that it could be observed going in a different direction to the one they saw, until they had proof.

So what does this tell you? (Apart from which brain hemisphere you naturally favour)
People's beliefs are inflexible unless substantiated by their own observed perception?

Consider this, there has been an attempt to get people to disconnect their left and right brain - why? well perhaps thats to weaken our collective creating abilities -I think this is what the covering of the one eye in advertising is intended to do and the lightning bolt is about disrupting the bridge between ... Symbols hold information, you may not watch tv or read mainstream stuff but you're exposed to it all the time without realising - posters, billboards, magazines ...

So maybe this little image is also a system's perception diagnostic tool for your body. If you can't see both ways, maybe you need practise flipping between the two modes - get yourself balanced.

Very interesting ....

[Hervé]

Posted by angelahedgehog (here)
An observation ....

[...]

... it's neither actually because its just a collection of still images, animated sequentially to simulate movement.

[...]

I like the observation as a whole except for the part quoted above.

Here is why:

There is a graphical clue as to which way the silhouette is actually, factually rotating from the sequence of still pictures making up the movie/.gif as explained by christian earlier in the thread in the case of making a movie of someone rotating and cutting it into still pictures to make a .gif.

... sorry if that's too much "left-brain" for some, but that's the case and not an opinion.

Which leads to the problem of one's perception as to which way the silhouette is seen to be rotating: one way is an illusion and one is fooled by it and the other way is an actuality and one's perception of the observed phenomenon is accurate and can be relied upon.


PS: Like many who keep looking at that spinning beauty, I get fooled half the times...

[angelahedgehog]

Withdrawn because it was a complete waste of time.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
An observation ....
... it's neither actually because its just a collection of still images, animated sequentially to simulate movement.

Posted by angelahedgehog (here)
I'm sorry if the editing is not pretty, it's not my forte and I was editing on the iPad. I also don't know where best to put pictures online, there used to be a way to link directly to a pics URL on Flickr ... If anyone can recommend a good photo host (not photobhucket!) I'm all ears and fingers.....

Peace, love and lollipops...
Ang

This may help. I upload to photobucket.

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[BrianEn]

Right-brained sometimes birdbrained.

[Hervé]

Posted by angelahedgehog;592145[...

I'm not sure what you mean about the one picture being actuality and the other the illusion. I think i was misunderstood, but i don't quite now how to correct that ....

so i decided instead to hunt down the original 34 pics in one, from another thread ....

[...]

Not meaning to be antagonizing, but had you read my posts you would have spared yourself the hunt for the constituting pictures the spinning girl "movie/.gif/.swf" is made of:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Edit:

See this post <---

... just needed to "click" on "this post <---" to get to the sequence of pictures.

That particular sequence of still frames depicts only one rotation -- the factual, actual direction the silhouette is spinning -- and ONLY one, anything else, I agree, is one's mind playing tricks on one when looking at the girl spinning.

Hence, it's not "all an illusion": there is an actual, factual direction in which the girl is spinning as depicted in the sequence of frames.

Accordingly, these statements of mine are stayed [maintained]:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

There is a graphical clue as to which way the silhouette is actually, factually rotating from the sequence of still pictures making up the movie/.gif as explained by christian earlier in the thread in the case of making a movie of someone rotating and cutting it into still pictures to make a .gif.

... sorry if that's too much "left-brain" for some, but that's the case and not an opinion.

Which leads to the problem of one's perception as to which way the silhouette is seen to be rotating: one way is an illusion and one is fooled by it and the other way is an actuality and one's perception of the observed phenomenon is accurate and can be relied upon.

[...]

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Accordingly, these statements of mine are stayed:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

There is a graphical clue as to which way the silhouette is actually, factually rotating from the sequence of still pictures making up the movie/.gif as explained by christian earlier in the thread in the case of making a movie of someone rotating and cutting it into still pictures to make a .gif.

Does your word "stayed" mean "temporarily stopped" (the usual legal definition)?

In other words, do you currently think that there is actual evidence in the gif of which way the girl is "really" spinning?

So far as I can tell, it is entirely ambiguous which way she is spinning, clockwise or counter-clockwise.

[Hervé]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Accordingly, these statements of mine are stayed:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

There is a graphical clue as to which way the silhouette is actually, factually rotating from the sequence of still pictures making up the movie/.gif as explained by christian earlier in the thread in the case of making a movie of someone rotating and cutting it into still pictures to make a .gif.

Does your word "stayed" mean "temporarily stopped" (the usual legal definition)?

In other words, do you currently think that there is actual evidence in the gif of which way the girl is "really" spinning?

So far as I can tell, it is entirely ambiguous which way she is spinning, clockwise or counter-clockwise.

Good point.

"Stayed" is meant as "re-enforced, maintained."

In other words, do you currently think that there is actual evidence in the gif of which way the girl is "really" spinning?

YES! And it is not a "thinking," it is "written" in the graphic script.

There is a graphical clue as to which way the silhouette is actually, factually rotating from the sequence of still pictures making up the movie/.gif...

There is ONLY ONE WAY the girl is FACTUALLY spinning. The reverse way is an illusion. Which, again, demonstrates how one can be so fooled through one's perceptions...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

WCBD... you did it again with those Ts & Is...

Nope, Amzer Zo
I just enlarged and provided the angelahedgehog's photos for everyone.

It's hard to tell if you are joking or not. If you are joking then this is for you -

If you are all judgy and critical then please fill in your favorite derogatory self-descriptor for yourself here (______).

Toodles,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Hervé]

Apologies.

I removed the incriminating statement since it was inaccurate.

[gripreaper]

Well, the short answer is: It depends on how the synapses between the two hemisphere's were "wired" in the early developmental stages of infancy and early childhood. If you are an Archonic reptilian bent on global domination and control, and you have zero empathy for anyone and are totally narcissistic, you are going to want to stamp out all right brain and make your children totally left brain before the age of two.

The rest of us, who have the garden variety neurotic parents, may get a bit of nurturing and stimulation from the love of our parents, and therefore have some connection to our right brain creative side, but I would venture to say that since the turn of the last century, and the advent of public schools, this too has been stamped out of most people.

Pink Floyd's. "The Wall" is a good illustration of this phenomenon, and it would make Edward Bernay's proud, the social engineer of the New Global Century.

So, looking at it from the subjective individual point of view, I have had to work at developing my right hemisphere due to the upbringing I was subjected to. First, I had to recognize the lack of synaptic connection in my own psyche, and then take steps to develop my internal feminine connectedness to this side of my brain. I do believe that the synapses can be rewired, and it takes a resonant return to the scene where the energy was severed and became dominant, but it can be done.

[pugwash84]

I made it turn both ways, I must be able to swap which side I use xxx

[angelahedgehog]

Posted by Paul (here)

So far as I can tell, it is entirely ambiguous which way she is spinning, clockwise or counter-clockwise.

Thank you!