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[eaglespirit]

Posted by donk (here)
...and Ernie and eagle...I can't wait to bring her to the old meetings I'd frequent, see who's still around and just for the experience, they were great.

I could never do "programs", so the steps and making my life about the rehab was not my thing, but the support group aspect and sharing experiences, not to mention the "fast-track to real spirituality" in all the lessons and slogans and such were amazingly helpful.

I am not "program" oriented either, Donk.

But in these times I feel V will be led to the right people(pure spiritual too)...through these anonymous organizations.
And I really, really, really mean that : )

I worked the program diligently the first year...after 3 years I was so busy in the building business, and with a good solid foundation from hard work and good help from good people I walked away but helped anyone in front of me with guidance that needed it.

The Best to You and V !!!

[Guest]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by eaglespirit (here)
Hi Donk...Wishing You and Yours Well,
Nora is speaking from Her Heart and genuine personal experience and is trying to help the situation with sincerity and valor.
It is so fortunate that we have the Village and Avalon for this very reason...where We can get to the core of matters without overly concern about being very personal out in the open for many of Us have been through the treadmill of life, so to speak, and telling it like it is in these situations. I honor You for being grateful to Nora. This issue with V is paramount in many lives and seeking the proper professional and experienced first hand help will take You and Her on a whole new wonderful path, imho. A number of us that visit the village have been there, done that...so please keep sharing....all of us are here to help any way we can. These overall changes ensuing need us to change along with them to be able to embrace what we really are and are really capable of, I wish You and V the Best in this serious matter...try to really do what You can to put Nora's suggestions to work, it will be a very good thing.

A good friend of mine taught me that you need to fix it between family and friends. Whatever the given situation or issue may be. If that is not done, in that way, then there are low odds that the best psych in the world will be of any real (base affected levels) help.

I keep thinking that this given psych trade began when cities reached that point of indeterminacy, of about 10,000 people, where a population is big enough that real strangers begin to emerge. Then people begin to be divided by their fears of the unknown. Which is the population density point (somewhere near 10,000) where 'that which manipulates'..steps into that gap, created by bodily reactions, and begins the wholesale process of division, isolation, and manipulation. And now the society and culture that we have today.

Donk, I have a friend who sees dead people. Besides my own little bits and fits of travels and interpolations/integrations. And with the psych trade having arisen the way it has, from the section of the population that it has arisen from, I'm sure you see the problem rather clearly.

This friend is on meds, specifically...SSRI's..and she just quit cold turkey. Which I advised her not to do. Falling off a physical cliff in a chemical imbalance fashion, is simply not the thing to do. It is difficult to find balance in chemical free fall. to ease her way out. She said that she simply did not want to ever re-fill her prescription again. Period. She says she can handle it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone balance themselves out of an SSRI situation by going cold turkey, without some sort of major issue arising. The gradual method of weaning off seems to be the better way to go, from observing that happen in multiple cases.

Indigenous and aboriginal communities had within them medicine men and medicine women who worked with the elements, plants and spirits to cure, heal and who supported the people. Also problems or spiritual afflictions were worked out within the clans or tribe too. They were taught to go within and to go on vision fasts to seek their own answers and ways. Each person within the tribe was also supported in their gifts that the Creator bestowed upon them in life by their clans and by the people. Whether they were a hunter, singer, artist, seer or medicine person. In fact they supported all of life. The good of all and their survival depended on it.

Although some of these communities and ways still exist today, we obviously do not live in that world. Most psychiatrists, psychologist and medical professionals aren't going to see or support someone who is gifted with sight or any other gift of that nature. On the contrary, they will probably give them a diagnosis of schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder or dissociative disorder...etc. and give them prescriptions that can only further the affliction and cause harm They don't even have a reference point and won't even come close to seeing that someone is spiritually afflicted or gifted. Never mind they wouldn't even begin to teach someone about going within or support them or the family as a whole. Institutions are full of artists and spiritual gifted people because of this.

I would not ever conceive of suggesting a conventional Allopathic medical practitioner, especially, to someone who may have a spiritual affliction or be gifted in that way. Referring only to professional alternative practitioners who treat the person individually and them and the family as a whole.


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[Anastasia]

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[Flash]

Thank you LuneSoleil for the ice hotel in Sweden. Here the one in Quebec City.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ciiHYmscGY

Ice hotel, interesting.

For everybody's information in America (I mean the continent, not USA only), there is ice hotels being built in Quebec City every year. So, if ever the taste to travel to an ice hotel in February while the is a winter carnival in Quebec City falls on you, you now know it exist.

Europe in Sweden. America in Quebec.

[mojo]

Nice Flash brought back memories of the Fairbanks Ice carving festival.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JUcAdNxXk9g

[Belle]

Thanks for that Ice Hotel, Flash.

Don't know why, but it reminded me of a drawing my Pepere would do for us when I was very young...he called it the Ba-num/bunum (not sure of the spelling...sounded like bah-num)...and we would giggle with delight.

It was many years later while watching Good Morning, America as an adult that they showed the Winter Carnival in Montreal iirc...and parading around was...you guessed it...the Ba-num! I had no idea he was drawing from his memories of growing up in Canada until that moment.

[Samsara]

Is that the one Belle ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=imIxwJywxUs

There's a rumour going around that there's a man in there.... it has yet to be proven.

[Belle]

omg, Samsara, that's the one! He drew the hat a little bit differently on the Bonhomme's head (less to the side and more to the back)...but the rest is exact! Thank you so much for finding this.

A little embarassed by my spelling...as a child and for as long as my Memere was alive, we spoke French at family gatherings...she barely spoke English, but could make herself understood nonetheless.

Unfortunately, I have forgotten so much and cannot speak French any more, due to lack of use down through the years. Even my Mom now stammers and stutters when speaking with her Canadian cousins.

My Dad was Polish, and taught me what he remembered of his native language...mostly swear words!

[Samsara]

Ça me fait plaisir. Bonhomme is very well known in the Province of Québec. He's been around for ages, maybe he changed his "tuque" over the years.



I have to admit... pepere and memere ... that cracked me up ! Haven't heard that in a long time. Thanks.

[Flash]

Pepére and memére are old words for grand father and grand mother. It cracked me up too.

[Belle]

Like many Americans who came from another country...the old traditions stay forever! Almost like time stopped in the old country when they left...

Even today, my grandchildren call their other set of grandparents memere and pepere.

[modwiz]

Posted by Samsara (here)
Ça me fait plaisir. Bonhomme is very well known in the Province of Québec. He's been around for ages, maybe he changed his "tuque" over the years.



I have to admit... pepere and memere ... that cracked me up ! Haven't heard that in a long time. Thanks.

That is how I adressed my grandparents. My French Canadian mother would have it no other way. My maternal grandparents would have been horrified at anything else. I do remember not sounding the "r" however. It sounded like memay and pepay.

[Flash]

Yes Modwiz, this was the other old way of saying grand mother and grand father, depending on the region you were from. Up up up noth, there was an R, near Montreal, no R.

I also like your pepAY, because this is how it was pronounced, however it was written pépé, mémé and should have been pronounced é, without any A, like in pepay. This tells me they were quite French Canadians.

[Samsara]

"Mémé" and "Pépé" is the short version. In these times, grandparents (well the one that I know anyway) would not want to be called that... sounds to "old", as if a name can make you any older.

In my case, my grandson always called me by my name, Ginette. No one taught him or told him to do that, he just did. It never bothered me, but somehow people around me taught it was strange. Now, at 5 yrs of age, he sometimes calls me "grand-maman"... especially if I'm not answering fast enough. The times are changing.

[Belle]

That's how we pronounced it...but were taught to write it with the r's.

The location makes sense...grandfather from Montreal...grandmother from a farm in the country much further north.


Edited to add:

My granddaughter started calling me "Ma" since she heard both my children and all their friends call me that. She is now 16 and I have become "Grandmother". I don't care what she calls me just as long as we can stay as close as we have become. Love it when she tests things out on me before telling her mom...my reaction helps her determine how to present things for a better outcome.

Three year old calls me a variety of things...sometimes Mom'sMa, sometimes Ma, and sometimes Gramma. Just as long as he continues to be excited to see me, he can call me whatever he wants.

[Samsara]

Posted by Belle (here)
Three year old calls me a variety of things...sometimes Mom'sMa, sometimes Ma, and sometimes Gramma. Just as long as he continues to be excited to see me, he can call me whatever he wants.

Same here !

[Hervé]

For the sake of accuracy... it's "pépère" and "mémère" from pé-père and mé-mère... cracked me up too

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Enjoying the French lesson.