6 Days out from the Big Day.

[Bill Ryan]

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The things to remember (above all the detail!) are these:

• 21 December 2012 is an arbitrary date (a little like 25 December for Christ's birthday). Mayan scholars don't agree about what the precise date is. Carl Calleman says the date has already passed, in October of last year. 21 December was widely promoted by Terence McKenna -- based on his 'Timewave Zero' calculations.
• There's no major 'astronomical alignment'. It's just not a physical reality. See the full analysis on this excellent page (which is a credit to Avalon).
• Researcher Larry Joseph traveled to Russia in 2010 and, with a translator, interviewed a group of Siberian shamans -- who'd had no communication with the Mayans, or any other popular New Age culture or ideas. Notably, they all stated that the significance of 2012 was that it broadly signified the start of the fall of the West. They did not put a single day to this -- just the year.
• There's been an ongoing expansion of consciousness and awareness among at least part of the planet's population, which started maybe 20-25 years ago (or longer, depending on how you measure it) -- and has been building ever since. These changes don't happen, and never have happened, in one day.

[Operator]

Posted by Kendall (here)
Any thoughts on the developing sunflares poping up on the sun yesterday that will be aligned with earth next weekend? Hopefully they will fade away before then. Also look at the rise in energy on the charts this week, strange.

John Waterman mentioned this on his website:

events.slooh.com

This may be an interesting website to follow live what's happening out there.

I think he mentioned it in this show:



http://thewatermanfiles.com/wp-conte...F-12-12-12.mp3

[Taurean]

Interesting to note that the Winter Solstice occurs at 11:12 UT ( GMT ) time on 21st Dec. - ( some people are saying 11:11 )

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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The things to remember (above all the detail!) are these:

• These changes don't happen, and never have happened, in one day.

Most of us know that this "3D reality" is not exactly the way we (our 5 senses brain) perceives it. This "physical" Universe is actually a Holographic Universe or a "Conscious Projection".
Therefore "things" can happen in a moment, or in the blink of an eye -- this is also confirmed by the scriptures.

Much Love to All

[DNA]

So what about Drunvello Melchezidek saying 46&2 are just ahead of us?

I think I'll have my two best crystals in pocket and be on the safe side.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A

Folks are acting like something amazing needs to elevate us.
It's possible that a liberating energy may in fact elevate us beyond what folks are talking about in the Horus Ra thread.

It is my theory that our subtle energy bodies are being subdued and kept in a state of constant degradation due to parasatism by an unseen and mostly unknown force.

What if an energy shift changed the game in terms of our subtle energy bodies?
What if they were suddenly freed?
It's worth keeping an open mind about.

[Gardener]

Bill----->

Notably, they all stated that the significance of 2012 was that it broadly signified the start of the fall of the West. They did not put a single day to this -- just the year.
There's been an ongoing expansion of consciousness and awareness among at least part of the planet's population, which started maybe 20-25 years ago (or longer, depending on how you measure it) -- and has been building ever since. These changes don't happen, and never have happened, in one day.

This is pretty much where I am viewing it from, the precessional movement into another 'era' where knowing and consciousness progressively expand over long periods of time. However, I also think there is an element of exponetial expansion, much like the phase change from ice to water.

[Cognitive Dissident]

For the record, I am more concerned with what Paul LaViolette and Courtney Brown have to say about the first half of 2013, than anything to do with the specific date of 21 December 2012. Is anyone else starting to think alone those lines?

[BrianEn]

I got exercise class that day. I try not to miss that for anything.



"What do you mean I can't have a taxi?" asks me.

Dispatcher-"Have you looked outside sir? It's bloody doomsday out there."

[modwiz]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
For the record, I am more concerned with what Paul LaViolette and Courtney Brown have to say about the first half of 2013, than anything to do with the specific date of 21 December 2012. Is anyone else starting to think alone those lines?

No. That would be seriously out of phase with where I am in time and space NOW. All power is in the now. Looking to the future is wise. Like looking where you walk on a trail. Good not to get too far ahead or you may trip and stumble.

[BrianEn]

Our big lottery falls on the 21, maybe I should get some tickets so I can check numbers that day along with a grilled chicken dinner.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Dec. 21 I'm going to work's Christmas party and possibly (most probably) get smashed... hehe

[Kano]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Posted by write4change (here)
just to be clear are you saying all these people who have talking about the rift, the galaxy line up etc. are just totally blowing smoke?

Yes, I'm afraid they are. It's all a New Age myth with zero astronomical and physical substance or fact behind it.

21 December 2012 has become (for a minority of the world's population!) rather like Christmas Day -- imbued by cultural and societal (and global control) factors to be entirely artificially important.

But Jesus was not born on that day at all. It's just a belief system which folk subscribe to because most people want to believe something and create meaning in their lives. We humans do this all the time -- and 21 December 2012 is just another human-created ritual.

It's interesting to research where the "21 December" date came from. Much of the blame (and I use that word deliberately) lies with Terence McKenna, an inspired but basically loony acidhead who widely publicized the date in a book he wrote back in 1993. The original 21 December date came from Mayan researcher Robert Sharer.

Prior to Sharer and McKenna's publication of their agreed idea of the end of the Mayan Calendar date, scholars had widely disagreed. Even last year, respected researcher Carl Calleman stated that the calendar "really" ended on 28 October (2011), and this too was widely touted. Of course, nothing happened on that day at all.

But the beliefs about 21 December, widely shared in the New Age community, make it "real" in societal terms. The rest of the physical universe doesn't know about that, though. It's purely a New Age cultural phenomenon, and nothing more. It will pass.

Let's look forward to 1 January 2013 (as I've often written) -- and then we can put all the hysteria behind us and focus on important matters. Dark Forces, whose interests and agendas are unwittingly supported with many otherwise able and perceptive people embracing the massive diversion and distraction, are having a field day. Next year it's important that we all get on with the job in hand.

Do look at the thread where this came from, btw, especially page 2... a lot of very good clarifying information there from Paul, Amzer Zo, Rahkyt and others.

Hi, Bill:

If this is and has been your feeling about 2012, why release the Patrick Geryl video? This is a legitimite question, not a dig at you.

Thanks,
Kano

[jagman]

I quit drinking a few years ago but I think that on December 20 midnight i will allow myself a few shots of sipping whiskey.
My friend Larry has a bottle of 16 year old Dom Perignon he plans on cracking for the event. I will of course be on Avalon that night.
Maybe we should all meet in the chatroom lol

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Kano (here)
Hi, Bill:

If this is and has been your feeling about 2012, why release the Patrick Geryl video? This is a legitimite question, not a dig at you.

In the intro to the video we put a disclaimer -- the first time we'd ever done this -- saying we didn't believe what Geryl was saying.

[gooty64]

Well yes, cog dis. I have thought this way for about a year now. Although part of me don't believe none of this stuff, I like to pay attention and watch from a relative neutral place. There are several sources that point to march-april 2013 as the real deal white light or whatever.
Could it be that there is something to this? The ptb promote 12-21-2012 when they knew all along that the real show was a few months later. Think about the backlash and complacency that will happen after the buzzkill of 12-21........I'm just saying!!!
PS, After april 2013, I am done with stuff....I am quitting cold-turkey!

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
For the record, I am more concerned with what Paul LaViolette and Courtney Brown have to say about the first half of 2013, than anything to do with the specific date of 21 December 2012. Is anyone else starting to think alone those lines?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
For the record, I am more concerned with what Paul LaViolette and Courtney Brown have to say about the first half of 2013, than anything to do with the specific date of 21 December 2012. Is anyone else starting to think alone those lines?

If I recall correctly, Clif High, of the Webbot, has similar concerns with the first half of 2013.

[Vitalux]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Posted by write4change (here)
just to be clear are you saying all these people who have talking about the rift, the galaxy line up etc. are just totally blowing smoke?

It's interesting to research where the "21 December" date came from. Much of the blame (and I use that word deliberately) lies with Terence McKenna, an inspired but basically loony acidhead who widely publicized the date in a book he wrote back in 1993. The original 21 December date came from Mayan researcher Robert Sharer.
Paul, Amzer Zo, Rahkyt and others.

I fail to see how attacking Terence McKenna because he does acid ( LSD) is really being fair.

Should we attack those opinions we don't like by linking them with people who drink alcohol, are educated, non-educated, take anti-depression medication etc..?

I have listened to a great deal of Terrence McKenna, I may not always agree with his views or beliefs, but I certainly believe he is an exceptionally gifted and intelligent man.

Terence Kemp McKenna (November 16, 1946 – April 3, 2000) was an American ethnobotanist, philosopher, psychonaut, researcher, teacher, lecturer and writer

As far as December 21, ..we will have a great new year!

[Kendall]

I will be at home watching the tv and avalon with baited breath. I need to find a countdown timer for my muse.

[Wind]

We shouldn't so easily dismiss the ancient wisdom.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xsf9KCv-o4k

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fNpfc3-m0fQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZuD28y77OVw

[Vitalux]

Thank you StarSeed
those videos present a wonderful optimistic view for the future of humanity.
I watched them all

The most beautiful thing about the human experience is enjoying with a sense of awe the intelligence that has gone into historical changes.

much love