Alex Collier’s Spirit is Broken, Please Help Him Reconnect With Us All…

**Chester** · 26th November 2012 00:38

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)
The subconscious rules - I know this, my ego even lets me say this and is OK with that.

Back on topic - lets send just love to Alex at this time of need, and leave our own agendas off this thread - perhaps you can start another about what you "believe" in OK?

I have found one can make considerable progress in tipping the scales as to what actually rules one... the conscious mind alone or mind as a whole dominated by the subconscious only because the ratio appears to be 19/20ths for most human beings (according to psychologists and what do they actually know of this?).

What I found that changes this ratio is that by performing a rigorous exercise in self honesty, one can undo lies they told themselves and/or bought into. By decreasing the amount of lies in one's life where perhaps one reaches the state of total self honesty and acceptance of what one discovers, the mind becomes unified and regardless of whether you our focusing on your reflection of your reflection or just driven by your reflection, the same core, foundational "driver" of your car is in charge.

It is then one can kick the driver out altogether and rest in that state of non-dual awareness - a still place. Some suggest this is our natural state.

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Posted by ljwheat (here)
I’M not feeling it, looking back at what Alex has told us about his contact -- I don’t understand why if true his contacts would abandon him if all this is really true. Or are his contacts broke too.?

These contacts travel the universe and cant come across a few raw materials out there for the taking for Alex to pawn or sell? A bit of technology worth something to some body, that would turn a buck or two. Sell DVD’s or recordings of his seminar’s instead of posting them for free on You-Tube?

This doesn’t say much for his and his contacts super intellect, or technology. Unless it’s all false, and has no value. Ya I’d say something’s wrong, Big time. Either way it doesn’t sound like a march of dime’s drive.

There are just to many Fairy tails on the internet the last 20 years. And just like God why dose He always need more money???????

What if his contacts have been like so many humans - unreliable? What if his contacts are part of the archontic forces and took him for a ride?

I learned a lot from Alex Collier and I am grateful to him.

**ljwheat** · 26th November 2012 00:44

Posted by Whippet (here)

Posted by ljwheat (here)
It seems there is no longer any reality out here any more -- rather only beliefs, religion, and assumptions have taken over the human landscape in its entirety. I am really sick or this non-reality what if, mentality if it sound good lets all go with it.

Yes, but truth is often stranger than fiction. And what we accept as truth is often fiction. I think Maunagarjana hit this one squarely on the head when she quoted Aristotle. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting or rejecting it."

Ok ok please I am totally uneducated and out of my mind, the village idiot I get it. You’ll never here my opinion again. ------------ lol with your under handed kick to the balls. Thanks.

**Maunagarjana** · 26th November 2012 06:37

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Posted by ljwheat (here)
It seems there is no longer any reality out here any more -- rather only beliefs, religion, and assumptions have taken over the human landscape in its entirety. I am really sick or this non-reality what if, mentality if it sound good lets all go with it.

Yes, but truth is often stranger than fiction. And what we accept as truth is often fiction. I think Maunagarjana hit this one squarely on the head when she quoted Aristotle. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting or rejecting it."

LOL, I'm not a she, but thanks. Now I'm wondering how many people on here have thought I was a female.

**Whippet** · 27th November 2012 00:57

Posted by justoneman (here)
I see I have 100% responsibility in regards to every single thing I experience.

I bet we are talking about different things. I was thinking of responsibility as in being accountable for something happening, as in being the prime mover or the cause of the effect. You seem to be describing the act of participating in the things you experience.

I think what we have here is a lack of communication. I am not 100% responsible for that, but I am certainly participating in it.

**Whippet** · 27th November 2012 01:06

Posted by ljwheat (here)
Ok ok please I am totally uneducated and out of my mind, the village idiot I get it. You’ll never here my opinion again. ------------ lol with your under handed kick to the balls. Thanks.

Whoops! Maybe I am 100% responsible for this poor communication! That is not at all the message I was trying to convey, ljwheat. My post was not meant as an insult to you personally or to be demeaning in any way, shape, or form. It was just a general comment about a common characteristic found in all humans, including me, that we often think we know the truth, only to discover later on that we didn't.

**Whippet** · 27th November 2012 01:09

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
LOL, I'm not a she, but thanks. Now I'm wondering how many people on here have thought I was a female.

Whoops again! Sorry about that. When I see pretty butterflies, I unconsciously think "female". And there you have it -- I thought I knew the truth, but then I found out later I didn't.

**ljwheat** · 27th November 2012 01:27

If everything is energy in physical form.

If spirit is the invisible indefinable - yet aware energy -- that is with or with out physical form -- an eternal energy that needs nothing, - - body or form.

If spirit comes and go’s with out the need of a body or mind. Then why dose the body need to do anything, learn anything, know any thing?

If like a butter fly the cocoon is discarded, the body is discarded -- “ we call death.”

Is not the term ascension only what applies to the cocoon? Aware Spirit is already Ascended -- residing or possessing the human body.

If spirit is already ascended, a light body already in its indefinable whole, and complete in its own light body.
Why would you want the body to ascend and transform into a light body in the 5th dimension.

When You already have a spirit 5d light body or higher -- living in you?

Why would you need two light bodies when we already have one, that EGO isn’t part of.

Ego is part of the body cocoon, shed and discarded when 3D is over.

So if our spirit is already ascended and only visiting 3D, and nothing is needed for spirit to simply move back into what it came from.

Wouldn’t it make sense that the real deception and lies are all this crap of the body ascending and how we must go about it? Do this, do that, Meditate here, light this candle, or bond fire, sing or dance a ritual or hum something that make the body vibrate this way or that. Swear on another mans name, with your hand on a book or something meaningful?

Spirit didn’t need to do anything raise its energy level, hum a song, ask Jesus into your unborn heart or prepare for occupying this cocoon.

Why dose it need to prepare, or do anything to move back home were it originally came from?

If my core essence of life is spirit, and spirit is already ascended awareness complete in every why possible.

And will pass over to a higher dimensions with out dragging the cocoon with it.

Then to me, I’m exactly were I should be, the lie’s and deceptions are that I must wake up and do all these crazy physical 3d stuff. And the bottom line is there is no rapture or ascensions --- spirit is complete and our higher ascended self already……… :-))

So this whole movement, ET, Religion, spirit guides, ascended Masters, channeling’s, and ascensions of any kind are all lie’s.

The truth is I’m a spirit from on high, descended to play the human condition, enjoying the 3d road show now playing on this planet. And all is as it should be. Nothing is going to happen to spirit that we are.

Alex is a great story teller, true or not ego is a big player, and very reconizable, as a contactee ET ego strokes human ego, storys to keep us from looking at what we really are at our core. undestructable spirit. needing no contactee, or story to look outside of how we got here, or leaving the same why we came in.

IMHO its all distractions -- whats that saying "Made Ya Look" and there is alot of them Making us look in the wrong direction.

**OnyxKnight** · 29th November 2012 14:23

Posted by apokalypse (here)
i wonder what happen to his project The Adventures of Captain Denar now?

went around search for Alex collier and i found this http://www.imdb.com/search/title?gen...year=2014,2014 which doesn't anything but

from IMDB Least Popular Sci-Fi Titles Released In 2014 it said
The Adventures of Captain Denar (2014)
Having discovered the knowledge of the Pataal, the founders of our universe, Captain Denar is being hunted by regressive races...

George Lucas should on board for this film but the title need to be change get rid of The Adventures...

He said its going to be a children's book. I believe that's why the title sounds like it does

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Otherwise I think somehing like "In the shadow of the Paa Tal" would sound better (for me at least :D),

Posted by ljwheat (here)
I’M not feeling it, looking back at what Alex has told us about his contact -- I don’t understand why if true his contacts would abandon him if all this is really true. Or are his contacts broke too.?

This doesn’t say much for his and his contacts super intellect, or technology. Unless it’s all false, and has no value. Ya I’d say something’s wrong, Big time. Either way it doesn’t sound like a march of dime’s drive.

There are just to many Fairy tails on the internet the last 20 years. And just like God why dose He always need more money???????

Posted by ljwheat (here)
This isn’t star trek , and the prime directive, “Please” Why dose God always need more money? Rule’s are human control box’s for anything we don’t understand. What I am suggesting is his stories are constructs that flopped. In a growing internet backed fairy tails that lead no where.

Nothing this man has said is provable or knowable, nor is Harry Potter, but relies totally on the faith of the reader or listener of the story being told to believe or not believe. Galaxy quest a movie about this very script, a lie accepted as the real thing.

It seems there is no longer any reality out here any more -- rather only beliefs, religion, and assumptions have taken over the human landscape in its entirety.

I am really sick or this non-reality what if, mentality if it sound good lets all go with it. No matter how ridiculous it may look at the moment. Love and light it enough, it just might come true crap. If I wasn’t bald I’d pull my hair out.

It looks to me everyone is loosing there minds, or critical thinking. Send me a Hall Mark Card, maybe I’ll believe another white lie. I not going off on you, but the whole fantasy land mentality. We do have more intelligence than a rock don’t we. Or do we.????

Well, things are actually pretty "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" out there. And Mauna put it well - the majority have limitations to what they can do here.

If they help Alex, they would be obliged to help everybody else who is in some sort of trouble, because they have another rule - to value humans equally. If they help Alex, it would mean he is more valuable then the rest of the starving, no-job, no-home, no-money folks. And if they do come in and fix all of these problems, we get the "Savior" scenario, something they dread on.

Posted by ljwheat (here)
I have hit bottom a couple times and had to start over, worked three jobs back to back to get back on my feet, the people I worked for and other’s knowing of my predicament could care less I was on my own.

Sure I could have went the hand out route, but this guy sounds lazy as a human, bet as a galactic word he’s good real good at tactical jargon.

You can say the same thing for thousands of people who can't get a job for long long time now. Are they also lazy? It would be your opinion after all. It doesn't mean that if they can't get a job that they are lazy, incompetent or without motivation, skills, etc.

And I'm sorry for your situation, but that's not an excuse.

Posted by ljwheat (here)
Just for once any of this stuff,,,, ANY …. Would actually happen, just one real thing,, No No its all words, playing with the mind of un critical thinking. Sorry that dose not work in fantasy land.

Trying to prove something that is not. Even a rock knows its not going any where. What’s that saying you made your bed…. We chose to experience this or that. Its our destiny ? And non of this applies to Alex. If Hoagland was home less who’s fault would that be. And everyone wants to bail him out sure that’s the human thing to do.

I believe a lot of us would do the same for Hoagland. Those who think him as a good person, and believe what he says, and that he is contributing to the overall situation in his own way, would help a lot more. I don't see why you are using him as an example?

Posted by ljwheat (here)
I’m not paying into it or this. If you cant stand in life then you’d better sit down.

You know how many people would fit in this statement? What you are suggesting is part of what is called Social Darwinism. You really need a reality check yourself, and reexamination of your values.

Posted by ljwheat (here)
I’m just fed up with all these fairy tails, stories, movies, all made up by men’s imaginings. I don’t know you, but we do stand on the same ship that has to many leaks in its hull and more are showing up. Build an internet and they will come.

Critical mind is not the same as skeptical mind. You are talking about skepticism here. And you are welcome to endorse it, on everything you like in the alternative media. And it seems that anything in the alternative circles is getting you off, and you "don't buy it". Avalon pretty much is based on "out-there" concepts, far-fetched things and pretty controversial subjects, where things like conspiracies and ETs, are always present.

So, the next logical question would be - why are you here at all, on this forum? I believe there are many places out there that are less-"fairytale" for you to spend your time on. Take your pick.

**ljwheat** · 29th November 2012 16:13

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)