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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    From houman's article:

    Quote Ultimately, we have to remember Jesus' words: "I am the Way [...] none comes to the Father but through Me". God has given us a "portal" to a higher dimension and perfect evolution, through the sacrifice of His Son.

    Fortunately, no rituals, sacrifices or slavery from our part is required. That's the secret Satan doesn't want us to know.
    Anybody else having an issue with this passage...finding a little [extremely intense] cognitive dissonance required to swallow these last two paragraphs together?

    I don't mean to cherry pick, and discerned a lot of good info/ideas out of the rest...but an understanding of the "good side" is required too, I think, in order to get a handle on this material.

    Deception (lies = lack of truth = darkness = ignorance = fear, imo at least) seems to me to be the only tool this force has to take our power. Denial/delusion on our end about our side plays into the hands of the darkness, the ignorance.

    Putting our faith in a being that requires us to believe that it sent itself to our plane of existence to be tortured to "save us" from itself I think is an example of what the article is talking about...at least to people like the writer who believe the salvation/crucifixion story is somehow a "good thing"...put it up there with Yahweh not making Abraham go through with killing his son...what a sweet guy...with friends like these....

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    From houman's article:

    Quote Ultimately, we have to remember Jesus' words: "I am the Way [...] none comes to the Father but through Me". God has given us a "portal" to a higher dimension and perfect evolution, through the sacrifice of His Son.

    Fortunately, no rituals, sacrifices or slavery from our part is required. That's the secret Satan doesn't want us to know.
    Anybody else having an issue with this passage...finding a little [extremely intense] cognitive dissonance required to swallow these last two paragraphs together?

    I don't mean to cherry pick, and discerned a lot of good info/ideas out of the rest...but an understanding of the "good side" is required too, I think, in order to get a handle on this material.

    Deception (lies = lack of truth = darkness = ignorance = fear, imo at least) seems to me to be the only tool this force has to take our power. Denial/delusion on our end about our side plays into the hands of the darkness, the ignorance.

    Putting our faith in a being that requires us to believe that it sent itself to our plane of existence to be tortured to "save us" from itself I think is an example of what the article is talking about...at least to people like the writer who believe the salvation/crucifixion story is somehow a "good thing"...put it up there with Yahweh not making Abraham go through with killing his son...what a sweet guy...with friends like these....
    The concept of a universal savior is an ancient one, you will find it in Zoroastrism (from which we get the notion of hell and paradise), Mithraism, etc...

    You also find it in Egyptian mythology, according to this historian Messiah literally means "lizard king" in that mythology



    See also the following vid (by the same historian) on the origins of circumcision...


    You will keep encountering two world views in this field:

    - One is described in the work of Dr Malanga in which humanity has basically no saviors only two parties warring for the possession of souls...
    - The other is the one described in religious books (and in particular by Christians) in which two parties are at war for souls but one is taking the party of humanity.

    People from each of these world views appear to have developed "deliverance techniques"...

    If you look at what Satanists share between each other, you will find a lot of images targeting and blaspheming Jesus... (do not click if you prefer avoiding such images)

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...82s5o1_500.jpg
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2...waco1_1280.jpg
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    Houman,

    In the second image, Satan is sacrificing or feasting on the body of Jesus and all the apostles have blood around their mouths.

    Is this meant to imply that the apostles were Satanists?

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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    Houman,

    In the second image, Satan is sacrificing or feasting on the body of Jesus and all the apostles have blood around their mouths.

    Is this meant to imply that the apostles were Satanists?
    I don't know if it is meant to imply that the apostles were Satanists but I don't think so... (I think that it is "simply" meant to desecrate and pollute)

    For some reason Satanists target Jesus in their symbols, their beliefs and writings...

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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    Quote Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    from http://www.henrymakow.com/ex-satanis...tual-plan.html (see the link for the full article, this is just the abstract)

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    Ex-Satanist Details Illuminati Spiritual Plan

    The goal of Satanists is to eventually have demonic spirits materialize in the guise of benevolent beings. According to a former Illuminati, they will use rituals, dimension portals and blood sacrifice to make this happen.
    That makes perfect sense to me. I've often thought that the Illuminati were actively trying to bring about the end times of Revelation, in that they would create a false Christ that almost everyone would believe was the real Christ.

    This is a much needed warning Houman, because I'm sure there are many good people who may be tempted to enact rituals of this kind, believing them to be harmless and useful for their spiritual development. I have been tempted myself to do the Quabbalistic ritual for contacting my Holy Guardian Angel, but something within me told me to steer clear of it, which I am so grateful for, and like the link say's, ritual isn't necessary.

    I wonder though, is it just Christians who are protected?, or is anyone who believes in God and operates from a place of Love protected?

    Also I wonder with a false Christ or a Demon pretending to be benevolent, can they really generate the aura of loving energy they would need for more spiritually aware people to believe them?
    To my limited knowledge, the Illuminati's intent is not to bring about the destruction of the entire planet, but to destroy a good percentage of the population since a smaller population is easier to control.

    As far as malevolent beings masquerading as benevolent beings goes, I think they try hard to do this but do not suceed unless the contactee is extremely naive. I have had the unfortunate experiences of being in the presence of dark beings, but I was never fooled by them. They can make themselves look good and say pleasing things, but they cannot fake the essence that they are. Whenever a malevolent entity has been around me, I've been gripped by deep chills. Some mediums in the spiritualist world have told me that the presence of any entity wil bring about chills, but I've found this to be false. The presence of a loving entity does not produce chills, but an aura of golden, warm, loving light. Malevolence can try to produce this, and even though they are extremelfy powerful, they are not almighty and cannot fool one who is aware.


    From my experiences i agree with DOT. When i prayed for healing and protection for my sick child and the ebony arms appeared above her head, i knew they were intrinsically loving.These arms remained and i was able to sleep.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Should cover this at some point...


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    The "universal savior" in the context of your article is one that as the article states:

    Quote Fortunately, no rituals, sacrifices or slavery from our part is required. That's the secret Satan doesn't want us to know.
    Doesn't require sacrifice of ourselves, though apparently needed to sacrifice him/it self...to whom? For what?

    This idea seems to break away from the idea of personal responsibility.

    Also, I believe "the satanists" or whoever wants control of our souls implanted the "savior" paradigm--or at least twisted it--in order to enslave the masses.

    I believe most of Jesus' words and teachings are the truth that sustain the longevity of the "big lie" that is we need to accept "Him" as our savior (or else!), that is a form of blasphemy in my opinion.

    Jesus seems to me to be an incarnation of unconditional love, an example of how to live in a path toward salvation (God, "source", love)...I cannot reconcile an idea where being tortured and killed somehow takes away OUR sin (responsibility?).

    Perhaps I am missing something?

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    Seriously: how is the crucifixion not a ritual sacrifice? What makes it "holy"?

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    Why don't we insert Mel Gibson's snuff film (the Passion) here...as an example of what a lot of people now think is "good" to show as some sort example of god's love for us?

    It's an excellent illustration, at least it's an honest depiction of what people love their lives believing what their creator's plan and mind set is. We had some sort of sin that needed to be taken away by His sacrifice...acknowledge it & ask forgiveness, right?

    Isn't this one of the basic, underlying concept that makes things like intra-species predation comprehendible?

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    Hi donk, ive come to the personal conclusion that Jesus came to show us the Way to live ie live the virtues as a way to spiritual evolution, and that he was killed (happened that crucifiction was used at that time for "criminals")- for it.
    The reason imo that he was killed is that the pharisees saw him as a threat to their control as he was teaching personal responsibility-sorry had to make it short this morning

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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Seriously: how is the crucifixion not a ritual sacrifice? What makes it "holy"?
    I don't have the answers to such questions... only more questions...

    Given the level of distortion in current news I also wonder how many distortions have made their ways into events that happened more than 2000 years ago...

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    Even though I consider myself a Christian(in as much as I follow his teaching), I still have a problem with 'Exclusivity', and the notion that you must follow a certain path in order to be 'saved'.
    I will not choose for myself a specific Religion or branch of that tree for this reason as I believe that anyone who loves God, or simply loves love and chooses light over dark may be saved, and consider themselves safe from these entities, no matter what Religion or Philosophy they follow.

    I don't really understand the whole crucifixion thing either, I choose not to dwell on it. Love is the most important aspect in my view.

    Jesus certainly scares the hell out of these Satanists though, so that has to be a good thing right?

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    Well, here's an interesting article about Jesus by Franz Erdl. It may give some answers - or then confuse things even further. Either way, I think it's something worth to consider.

    http://psitalent.de/Englisch/Freejesus.htm

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    Jan. 6. 2012
    (original 21. 12. 2011)



    In many cases, the sessions with our clients are very informative for us. For example, today we had an interesting situation: after starting the healing session, Martina could perceive a great number of dark entities gathering at her place. Of course they came from a dimension, which didn't care for the physical walls of Martina's house. Hundreds of entities, those who had been our enemies only a few months ago and who'd scare humans usually. Now these beings were standing around quietly and patiently. Each of them was peaceful, we didn't feel any fear at all. We expected them to seek for healing, but before we started, Martina wanted to know, what they wanted from us. Their answer: „We need a heart!“

    Communicating with these beings usually works on several levels in the same time. So they didn't say these few words only, but sent us a whole package of energy, which helped us understanding the full meaning of this message.

    What they needed was someone with a functioning heart, who had a good soul connection and thereby can connect to our true origin. This is exactly what redeems them: a heart!

    Well, we already knew this, yet Martina gained new insights: Beings like these ones, full of negative energy, can only be healed through a heart (-chakra). But this insight has been screwed up into „only Jesus can redeem you!“ This is not true. I am convinced, that Jesus had (has) a beautifully big heart and this made him a great healer and redeemer. But every heart can redeem and heal! Is the path to God only possible through Jesus? No! Every open heart is a channel to the Divine Origin and therefore can heal, even the most evil beings. We experience this day to day and we are not the only ones doing so.

    So we started the healing session for these creatures and after only 10 minutes, they were free from all the evil influences and left.

    Well, this was the warm up. Watch out, what comes next might be too hot for the commonly hypnotized Christians. The following session took place one week ago. It was for our dear friend Franja, for whom we have been fighting for her freedom for one year. All healing sessions for her brought only partial success. One of the reasons, why it is so hard to heal and to free her of the beings on her might be rooted in the following experience.



    The session:

    An illustration of the session: Martina empathizes with the client, in this case Franja, and thereby she can feel the past and presence as if she was the client herself. In the same time, Martina is herself. During this session Martina finds out, that Franja has a soul-fragment of a dragon, this means, she once was a dragon.
    This is Franja's description of the session, which she had experienced intensely:

    Right from the start, Martina was able to connect to the topic. Immediately she sensed a terrible, almost indescribable pain (psychologically, emotionally, physically), paired with strong wrath, a wrath like the last-ditch attempt of a tortured animal, trying to defend itself.

    Martina saw and felt Jesus hanging on the cross.

    „It is so terrible, so distorted and perverted...and everyone is worshiping this symbol, no one is helping him! No one helps me (Martina talks about Franja). All I want is deliverance, peace and rest, please help me!“ This soul fragment of Franja/Jesus/ the dragon collective was totally hopeless, not expecting anyone coming to help him.

    Furthermore, Martina mentioned that through the execution of Jesus, retained in the symbol of the crucifix, the general female energy as well as the earth have been very weakened, dishonored and broken. All believers of this distorted religion and all crucifixes at waysides, cathedrals etc. distort and weaken us, the earth and the female energy very much.

    Martina wept for 15 minutes. She sensed the tortured soul fragment's (of Franja and of the soul collective, which is connected to the crucified Jesus) hopeless cry for help and its resignation. Martina sensed a deep dragon rumble inside of her, the dragon's deep wrath.

    I (Franja) felt strong energies streaming through my (ethereal) body, while Martina was crying. Yet I couldn't feel the emotional pain, though I know this kind of pain very well from my past... such deep pain, which can get out of hand and turn into hatred, because it contains the feeling of a heartrending iniquity. Martina said: „revenge, it is just seeking for revenge.“

    At the end I mentioned that Jesus seemed to be an incarnated dragon soul fragment., belonging to a dragon soul family, since the legion* is strongly connected to Jesus. Martina felt an impulse of energy and so did I. The topic „Antichrist“ came into my mind and Martina felt, there was more to it.

    (*we call a group of thousands of beings “The Legion”, who were helped by Franz and Martina (here) . These beings are fighting on our side. )

    Franja's thoughts: the topic „Antichrist“ (book of revelations) refers to a dragon with ten heads and a so-called „beast“. The Antichrist is described as being totally hardhearted, yet not easily to be differed in the true Christ on the surface, since both are able to work wonders and so forth. I know, that the Bible is pretty distorted and I expect it to be an age-old deception, trying to set us on the wrong track.

    Yet I can imagine, that a tortured soul fragment, such as this Jesus-dragon-soul fragment can be turned into a sort of Antichrist, if he is not liberated and healed from the snake's influence and as long as pious lambs are sucking him dry, while loading all their unsolved suffering on him. One day he might run riot in the astral plane, when the pain has turned his love into hatred. If I am right, then we should hurry up with liberating Jesus/ the dragon collective connected to Jesus Christ.



    23. 12. 2011

    Franz:
    First of all I want to make clear once more, what this is about. This does not deal with the question of the true course of the „story of Jesus“. It doesn't deal with the question, if Jesus was married and had children, if he was crucified or if he lived in totally different times.

    This experience we had (and others as well) indicate that Jesus was crucified. Yet, even if he wasn't, there still is a cult called the „christian church“, which is anchored in the Crucifixion. The crucified Jesus is everywhere- inside of churches and at many other places.

    Would anyone hang up a cut-off head on a pale inside his home? I don't think so, because this would be very perverted. This object would not only mess up the energy of the place, but it would also have a black-magical effect on the beheaded person- even if it was only a plastic replication of the original one. The soul fragment of the dead will not find any deliverance, until all connections to such objects are detached.

    This doesn't make a big difference to Jesus' fate. You might believe, he is so divine, so he would stand above this. But this seems not to be the case. We have perceived a couple of times, that at least one soul fragment of Jesus is banished. And many people conserve this status unknowingly. If this soul fragment was only trapped by massive cussedness, he could free himself. But the disinformation of the snakes secure, that millions of people worship the cross and thereby keep Jesus trapped.

    One more aspect of the sneaky snakes' deception was to describe him as absolutely divine. This is why no one is ever thinking about helping him. A Christian who thought so, would be called megalomaniac or blasphemous. Please, wake up from this mind control programs! A huge amount of your own skills and forces have been crucified with Jesus. Us and him need these abilities badly!
    May this information be understood and passed on.

    Franz
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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Seriously: how is the crucifixion not a ritual sacrifice? What makes it "holy"?
    Donk,

    I understand your disgruntlement here.

    I cannot speak for the Christ, but only from the way I see it.

    Jesus did not willingly sacrifice himself, imo. He was sacrificed!

    The sacrifice was made holy by the Catholic church, and not by the Christ himself. The Catholic Church wanted us to believe that there is "holiness" in sacrifices. They used the crufixion to advance their own agenda, and not to venerate the Christ. They've always twisted things and made them believable to the masses to make them follow a path of pain. And while they pretended to workship the Christ in large Cathedrals, Satanic rituals were taking place in the Cathedrals' cellars.

    I find it very unfortunate that the sacrifice is what is focused on and not the resurrection. Whether it was the actual resurrection of the body or that of the everlasting soul, we do not really know. But what should be focused on is his teachings of love and forgiveness and the understanding that the soul never dies.

    He was made an example of for all those who wished to defy the status quo and PTB. I imagine that no matter how advanced he was, he could not escape his fate which seems to be a similar fate of many who wish to enlighten.

    I have seen Jesus on numerous occasions. He has never presented himself to me bloody or nailed to a cross. He has always presented himself to me in a beam of golden, loving light. What happened to his body, happened then. His loving essence is what remains and what has always been.

    I don't see the crucifixion as an example of God's love for us, but as an example of how evil gets away with what they do.

    And of course, I don't claim to understand God's intentions. But the intentions of evil seem to be rather clear.
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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    The "universal savior" in the context of your article is one that as the article states:

    Quote Fortunately, no rituals, sacrifices or slavery from our part is required. That's the secret Satan doesn't want us to know.
    Doesn't require sacrifice of ourselves, though apparently needed to sacrifice him/it self...to whom? For what?

    This idea seems to break away from the idea of personal responsibility.

    Also, I believe "the satanists" or whoever wants control of our souls implanted the "savior" paradigm--or at least twisted it--in order to enslave the masses.

    I believe most of Jesus' words and teachings are the truth that sustain the longevity of the "big lie" that is we need to accept "Him" as our savior (or else!), that is a form of blasphemy in my opinion.

    Jesus seems to me to be an incarnation of unconditional love, an example of how to live in a path toward salvation (God, "source", love)...I cannot reconcile an idea where being tortured and killed somehow takes away OUR sin (responsibility?).

    Perhaps I am missing something?
    I agree that we have been and still are programmed with the "victim/take no action/take no responsibility" paradigm...

    According to F. Springmeier (any many others) organized religions have satanists at their core/as leaders...

    Now I also don't have a rational answer to the question of who the historical Jesus was, I only observe that his name comes up many times in this field, sometimes as a savior figure (for some former SRA/MK Ultra victims,
    see for instance Brice Taylor's story http://educate-yourself.org/mc/nwomcbturireview.shtml)
    and sometimes in abduction accounts (such as the ones reported by Dr Turner) in which the abductees saw "blond and blue eyed" Jesus telling them that the ETs were with him and all was going to be okay (see "Masquerade of Angels" by Dr Turner)...

    Houman

    PS: The author of the article is "Marcos" http://www.henrymakow.com/ex-satanis...tual-plan.html

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Just to be clear here, I'm not trying to attack Christianity, promote the parts of the New Testament that I like, or turn this into any kind of JC thing at all really, my point I think is totally relevant to the thread...it's one idea, which I would like to present as perhaps the ultimate infestation of archontic thinking into my personal cultural paradigm (that of most of western civ):

    Of all the flavors/brands/varieties of Christianity, I believe the only absolutely common thing in all of them is that they take Jesus Christ as their personal savior based on two ideas:
    1. JC is the son and incarnation of the creator
    2. His torture, death, and resurrection takes away humans (believers?) sins

    If you choose not to focus on whatever parts, is irrelevant. You have to believe those two things to be "Christian", correct? I'm talking semantically, I'm talking straight English, those are the requirements for that label. Otherwise you are just a fan or follower of Christ. A "true" Christian accepts Him as salvation...

    So my point is: no matter what you believe or ignore, most people have this idea of torture and human sacrifice as the ultimate "good" that's ever been done for us. Without humans brutally torturing and killing the "living God", we would still be "in sin", in need of some sort of sacrifice to be ok in God's eyes.

    I think the fact that this idea is just put out there. Taught to our children. Graphically displayed in horrific movies our kids our encouraged to see. Without any discussion or thought is just as horrible (if not worse) programming or implanting than video games where you role play killing "bad guys". But no one wants to talk about it...works in mysterious ways indeed!

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Babbling too much, let me try to put it simply:

    The idea of God (or anyone for that matter) suffering horrific torture and death (then "rising from the dead", whatever that means) somehow removing "sin" (or whatever it is we needed for "salvation") is completely insane (archon-tic) to me.
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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Teaching that is not IMO WJWD!

    Jesus taught responsibility. Salvation is from within. He was love & forgiveness, and "walked the walk". At least in the book (translation) I read.

    Angry dad (who we needed salvation from) I think is a manifestation of Horus-Ra.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Babbling too much, let me try to put it simply:

    The idea of God (or anyone for that matter) suffering horrific torture and death (then "rising from the dead", whatever that means) somehow removing "sin" (or whatever it is we needed for "salvation") is completely insane (archon-tic) to me.
    I agree!

    I think I'll just call myself a fan then.

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    Default Re: Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Of all the flavors/brands/varieties of Christianity, I believe the only absolutely common thing in all of them is that they take Jesus Christ as their personal savior based on two ideas:
    1. JC is the son and incarnation of the creator
    2. His torture, death, and resurrection takes away humans (believers?) sins
    You have just described Mithraism (just kidding )

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