The Psyche: Metaphors of Meaning

[Jeffrey]

What is Origenes? I could not find it online (if it's a book). Reading those excerpts made my entire body tingle -- the parallels were so strong with my own research. It was like reading a page out of my own mind.

I had a substantial reply all typed out, then I clicked "post" and it displayed a message alerting me that my token had expired. So, here's the short version!

As I'm sure you know, mitochondrial DNA is circular. This is symbolic of the mother, the feminine, the torus, the yoni. It is a complete circle -- connected.



When it is disconnected, or incomplete, it becomes a strand, or a line.

Speaking of mitochondrial DNA, this brings us nearly full circle to the ideas discussed here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Agenda/page15

It bears considerable interest that the non physical spirit may be attracted to their own recall in a descendant enough to merit haunting that descendant. A non-physical entity is tempted by their own memories, recalls and even archetypical stories.

The expression of graven dna material influenced by past generations can be mistaken for haunting and possession all on it’s own. It can even create constructs in any sort of energetic field? Archetypes in the truest sense of the word.

This is likely when considering Sheldrake's theories alongside the possibility that DNA acts as a transceiver.

Here is a snippet from this post -- https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post606669 -- in Houman's thread.

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From Wikipedia:

According to Sheldrake, the "morphic field" underlies the formation and behaviour of "holons" and "morphic units", and can be set up by the repetition of similar acts or thoughts. The hypothesis is that a particular form belonging to a certain group, which has already established its (collective) "morphic field", will tune into that "morphic field". The particular form will read the collective information through the process of "morphic resonance", using it to guide its own development. This development of the particular form will then provide, again through "morphic resonance", a feedback to the "morphic field" of that group, thus strengthening it with its own experience, resulting in new information being added (i.e. stored in the database). Sheldrake regards the "morphic fields" as a universal database for both organic (genetic) and abstract (mental) forms.

That a mode of transmission of shared informational patterns and archetypes might exist did gain some tacit acceptance when it was proposed as the theory of the collective unconscious by renowned psychiatrist Carl Jung. According to Sheldrake, the theory of "morphic fields" might provide an explanation for Jung's concept as well.

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Essential to Sheldrake's model is the hypothesis of morphic resonance. This is a feedback mechanism between the field and the corresponding forms of morphic units. The greater the degree of similarity, the greater the resonance, leading to habituation or persistence of particular forms. So, the existence of a morphic field makes the existence of a new similar form easier.

Sheldrake proposes that the process of morphic resonance leads to stable morphic fields, which are significantly easier to tune into. He suggests that this is the means by which simpler organic forms synergetically self-organize into more complex ones, and that this model allows a different explanation for the process of evolution itself, as an addition to Darwin's evolutionary processes of selection and variation.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake

From http://predmet.fa.uni-lj.si/siwinds/..._U1_SU6_P4.htm

The aim of this paragraph is to show that the analogy with language is appropriate for describing that which we define with the word typus. Like topos, typus is an archetypal, architecturally immanent, source of forms.

Typus

In the most simplified terms, architectural form is generated from two sources: a reaction to the context in which it is taking shape, and from the use of its own autonomous architectural language: the substantial and structural conventions of architectural language originate from the whole professional tradition and the rules of the discipline as constituted by construction archetypes, building types, architectural elements, style codes, construction principles etc. Both factors, topos as the special and typus as the general connecting, are the original sources of the forms immanent to architecture. Certainly, this is true within the spiritual aspect, according to which construction and building serve the creation of a home for a human being, meaning that a person is placed in a relationship towards his/her own world. The latter can be better explained taking the example of a conversation: if the essence of talking or conversing is communication, then the contents of what is being said must inevitably result from a construction of the mind, on the one hand, and from the response or answer to the ideas of the person one is talking to, on the other, otherwise the two persons are not talking to each other. And, finally, in the speaking and responding relationship, of typus and topos, the autonomous feature of architecture as art dependent on place-locus is founded. To describe what is integrally defined by the term typus, the analogy with language is quite appropriate. Not unjustifiably, one often speaks about "architectural language". This language is a bundle of conventions which have achieved their general validity in such a way that it has become understandable and applicable, and that it conveys a message. Although typus, with its own laws and universal dissemination, is an autonomous entity, it is, much in the same way as a language, subject to development and change. Functional and construction pressures affect typus just as much as changed social relations. In such a dialectic developmental process typus aims at the optimal, ideal and generally valid. Typus determines that side of architecture which ensures ordering, as well as the creation of structures. In the general meaning of the word, typus leans toward reproduction, and is, in principle, always available. As an idea, it is mobile and transferrable, and, as such, applicable in the most diverse situations. Having characteristics of the general, typus is the principle in architecture which produces the bearing structure of the urban space and creates the background for individual figures. This is, of course, an abridgement of the fundamental tripartite relationship between man, architecture and place. This statement is legitimate only if the meanings of a human being as the builder and user in typus, and in reaction to topos, concur.

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Behold this human and the artificial presence that serves as their Mind. Note that something not of the creation matrix controls him. This what all the worlds will turn to if we are not careful.

I am nearly convinced that there are at least two species of humans present on this planet.

One is descended from the natural forms and likenesses of the patterns above (i.e. Adam of the Light and Sophia Zoe/Eve of Life -- the natural Gaian likeness), while the other is in the form of the one's before them but of a skewed/foreign likeness.

This is described in the Nag Hammadi, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Vedas (nagas). This is part of the deficiency which Sophia wants to rectify (according to the Gnostics). Many secretive societies and cults desire to mimic the patterns of creative power. This even goes for their symbology. The serpent, the eagle, the dragon are all prestigious archetypal forms that have strong correlations with physiological and subtle forms within the natural body ... The foreign energies have their own versions; the snake, the hawk/owl, and the winged serpent ... or something to that effect. No wonder the water is muddied.

Posted by Vivek (here)

This foreign DNA (if DNA acts as a transceiver) picks up a different station than the one Gaia is broadcasting. It tunes into a foreign morphogenetic field (i.e. the counterfeit spirit). Also, it could interfere with the projections of our natural archetypal repository.

[Side note: Think about artificial selection and bloodlines. Certain traits and characteristics could be intensified through keeping certain lineages within one another by selective breeding. This selectiveness of only a few traits would lead to a lack of genetic diversity and possibly create problems for this offshoot species. This makes me think of a motive for cannibalism and blood-drinking as an attempt to ingest more natural DNA in order to repair their own. This may be an instinctual urge since their instinctual faculties of mind have been utterly taken over by this foreign energy. This thought, carried out to an extreme, may account for the stories we here of people witnessing reptilian-like humanoids feeding on people. They could be/look human but they field they project (DNA being a transceiver) is more foreign than home grown so what we receive on a subconscious level appears reptilian in nature.]*

Again, from On the Origin of the World:

And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him. He became a soul-endowed man. And he was called Adam, that is, "father", according to the name of the one that existed before him.

Sounds like panspermia to me. It also says that they "fashioned the brain" and that makes me think of this picture (from my previous post) of the human, reptile-like brain stem compared to the "fractal visions" image and images from the Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Humanity then evolves (over very few generations), or is newly created as a being that no longer possesses a bicameral mind.

"This is the first one who came down [the fall], and the first separation."

Separation ---> leading to a unicameral mind (Jaynes).

This is just scratching the surface, but hopefully it gets the gears turning.

Once again, I'm just playing with ideas here ... I realize some of the codices say different things. I'm just trying to look at it from different angles.

So, I'll wrap this up with a quote from Carl Jung. He stated:

"An archetypal content expresses itself, first and foremost, in metaphors."

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"Wisdom is knowing in depth the great metaphors of meaning."

-Carl Jung

Here is the source for the Gnostic material that was quoted throughout the post - The Nag Hammadi Library Codex Index

*Concerning this caveat, here are some excerpts from another thread, posted by Bearcow (emphasis added):

Posted by bearcow (here)

For people who do not know what the po is, it is part of the astral body that regulates the animalistic functions of the human organism. IE breathing, hunger, sex drive etc. Addictions come about because the hunger of the Po becomes so strong that it overrides the higher functions of conscious mind and controls the behavior of the individual. If you want to label a part of your being/ego as being negative, this would be the place to start.

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Now lets say you wanted to forever become part of the ruling class of this world. You would need to cut yourself off from the higher aspects of your being but still remain alive. You would need the Po to become so strong that it can live separately from the physical body and the higher self. Some of the things you can strengthen the po by ?

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Everyone has a energetic connection to their ancestors, but those who are bred specifically in one genetic line, (IE inbreeding) have a stronger connection to their ancestors. Part of the reason the elite inbreed is that their ancestors have a easier time influencing their decision making processes. They can become slaves to the will of their fore bearers.

Source: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Cult-of-Saturn

http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique...etPromise1.php

Posted by Vivek (here)
Here is a diffusion MRI of there area of the brain being discussed.



Now let's turn to the Bicameral Mind Theory.

This externalized self was a consequence of the split between the two halves of the brain. Jaynes suggests that the left and right brains were not integrated—"unicameral"—they way they are today. Rather, the ancient brain was "bicameral," with the two brains working essentially independently of each other. The left half of the brain, the logical, language-using half, generated ideas and commands, which the right brain then obeyed. These commands were subjectively perceived by the right brain as coming from "outside"—as if a god was speaking.

Source: http://deoxy.org/alephnull/jaynes.htm

The corpus callosum functions as the bridge creating a unicameral brain. The lion's head represents the thalamus and corpus callosum (with the millions of contralateral axonal projections being the lion's mane). The serpentine body being the spinal cord/nerves. Below is the Gnostic depiction of Yaldabaoth compared with the spinal cord and the brain (the spinal cord leads into the reptilian brain stem):



The function of the corpus callosum has very similar correlations to what Jaynes describes happened when the mind went unicameral. It also ties into the archontic effects of putting humanity under a "veil" of ignorance.

Here are some more excerpts from www.metahistory.org

archetype - From Latin, “primordial or original pattern.” A term widely associated with the psychological theories of C. G. Jung, although it does not originate with him.

The Jungian conception of the archetype is almost identical with the notion of instinct in biology. It could be said that the archetypes in the human psyche are directive patterns, comparable to instincts in other species.

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In Gnostic psychology, the noetic science of the Mystery Schools, Archons are an alien force that intrudes subliminally upon the human mind and deviates our intelligence away from its proper and sane applications. They are not what makes us act inhumanely, for we all have the potential to go against our innate humanity, violating the truth in our hearts, but they make us play out inhumane behavior to weird and violent extremes. Left to our own devices, we would sometimes act inhumanely and then correct it, contain the aberration. Obviously, we do not always do so. In the exaggeration of our insane and inhumane tendencies, and in extreme, uncorrected deviance from our innate intelligence, Gnostics saw the signature of an alien species that piggy-backs on the worst human failings.

Hence, Archons are psycho-spiritual parasites. Yet as offspring of the Aeon Sophia, they are also our cosmic kin.

As inorganic entities of two types, embryonic and reptilian [...] they exist both as an alien species independent of humankind, and as a presence in our minds, rather like a set of programs operating in our mental environment. The risk they pose by invading our mental software is far greater than any physical risk they might pose by erratically breaching the biosphere.

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Our capacity to discern alien forces working in our minds is crucial to survival and co-evolution with Gaia who, as Sophia, accidentally produced the Archons in the first place [...] By recognizing and repelling the Archons, we claim our power, define our boundaries in the cosmic framework, and establish our purpose relative to Gaia, the indwelling intelligence of the planet.

I have more thoughts about this and the UFO/alien abduction phenomena (see also: http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique...nIntrusion.php). Especially considering these ideas and the function(s) of the thalamus (and other areas associated with the brain stem):

The thalamus is involved in several functions of the body including:

• Motor Control
• Receives Auditory, Somatosensory and Visual Sensory Signals
• Relays Sensory Signals to the Cerebral Cortex
• Controls Sleep and Awake States

Source: http://biology.about.com/od/anatomy/p/thalamus.htm

Now, after reading this post, go back over post #2348 and the latter half of post #2358. Interesting ...

I'm also thinking about the kundalini in light of this information.

I'd have to mull it over some more, but I've been thinking about it.

The Gnostic scriptures describe a feminine energy hiding itself within Adam (i.e. adamic race). I had considered this might be referencing the "third-eye", but it could be alluding to circular (feminine) DNA within the body.

He said, "There is nothing hidden that is not apparent, and what has not been recognized will be recognized." And these were sent to make known what is hidden, and the seven authorities of chaos and their impiety. And thus they were condemned to death. - On the Origin of the World

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Vivek (here)
This intrigues me because certain codices describe the first beings as having androgynous characteristics, and the pineal gland (the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge) secretes melatonin, which at high levels is known to inhibit sexual development. After Adam and Eve ate the from the apple they realized they were naked. In other words, they had developed male and female genitalia.

After the fall, the seed of desire was sown in mankind ---> the seeds of the apple being the secretions of the pituitary gland. Two houses are created. The biological male and female. Copulation is now a requisite for reproduction.

There is a lot more that can come of these connections.

“There is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the groundwork of the human psyche. It is only possible to live the fullest life when we are in harmony with these symbols; wisdom is a return to them.” – Carl Jung

There is also a strong link between melatonin (a secretion of the pineal gland) and mitochondrial DNA in particular.

[9eagle9]

Origenes is a name given for a people of a very basic template much closer to a clearer morphic field. . I've been strangely compelled to let this as[ect or imagery on my dna express itself , and I arrange it a novel format so I remain objective with it.

People who are more in alignment with the morphogenic fields or original species before all the constructs, languages, separation from the nature world, fallen veils, consciousness, weirdo religions etc. Orginal people they don't resemble humans...much. The human form has been altered much in the intervening centuries.

The last ten days or so I found strangely too coincedental that you were exploring the same subject that was erupting out of the baser part of myself. It's on a parallel path as if you are supplying the science behind the expression.

It expressing how veils were taken up and taken down. People were exposed to influences that were not healthy and warped their alignment with the naturally occuring holographic resonances, these morphic fields that served as basic template. They as entities were not very far removed from it. We began creating morphic fields that were corrupted away from the original template , and things archonic constructs began being constructed from that.

How that breech occured probably relegates back to Atlantis times or rather that was the last straw, a collectively shared trauma event that ran along a morphic field. There is something beyond though I doubt Atlantis was the first psychic trauma imposed on people in a collective sense, but it may very well been the straw that broke the camel's back.

Architectural language is the basis of programming,you talk about something long enough (like 12-21-12 since is fresh in our minds) and it becomes real to people. You can literally build constructs or illusions with it. They eventually become real to people. Or anything actually we start creating the very thing we fear in this warped field , which is more familarly known as the collective consciouness. We start building our own demons there. That relates to the Horus Ra thread as well because what we build needs us so feeds on us, and turns parasitical. They also develop a certain self awareness although lack certain components that could define them as human.

What else would they feed on , we created them

Jungs archetypes?

Those archetypes or constructs have been measured though long before Jung like tarot and astrology. Someone back then had a clue of what was going on.

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The reverse side of that is creating happy constructs. No demons, but angels, spirit guides and other happy thought things. They have no real integrity but are deceptive only in that they lack that basic component. Eventually coming self aware enough to crave what we have that we lack.

We are their creators. We carry the creation matrix and we create some ****ed up **** with it...lol. Like a tulpa. You create something though, make a toy, and its empty something may come along and inhabit it or stick their hand in to give it a sort of artifical animation like someone picking up an empty sock and making a puppet out of it.

Look how many 'gods' our forebears created. Oh the sun rose, that is Ray the sun god. So create a whole construct around Ray, adding in human aspects to Ray until quite literally they've created a God made in theiro own image on a morphic field. Discard the construct and something comes to inhabit it like putting a mask so it can portray itself as God. We created the god.

Where people of a clearer morphology would tend to think that is the Sun OF God. See the difference.

What intrigued me though was when you brough up the morphological aspect in the most familiar sense of the word. These veils or feilds what people call dimensions (demonsions..lol) ,were able to assume different forms , step down from one field and resume another that was more suited to that field. That lends a lot of thought towards having many different existences.

Which leads to me down here ..I am in this 3dimensional veil , realm, dimension or field and I operate by consciousness. I'm cognizant here. Am I in another form in a another field perhaps and my awareness is soul. And then perhaps another realm where its my spirit that is the primary awareness. And maybe some other awareness bodies that we have never heard of or even experienced on this field because ...it doesn't support it do to the way we are warping the field.


Postive side of the Creation Matrix that you are laying out there. Creation Matrix that lacks , or is negative in the truest sense of the word. Missing or deficient or taken away from. Duality.

So the Matrix of illusions we all seek to escape from is the negative film one of the postive one.

[CdnSirian]

9Eagle9:

"Which leads to me down here ..I am in this 3dimensional veil , realm, dimension or field and I operate by consciousness. I'm cognizant here. Am I in another form in a another field perhaps and my awareness is soul. And then perhaps another realm where its my spirit that is the primary awareness. And maybe some other awareness bodies that we have never heard of or even experienced on this field because ...it doesn't support it do to the way we are warping the field. "

Indeed you are all of this.

[9eagle9]

That would account for why for long people put forward the suggestion you 'cross' the veil and assume another form. That idea has been in the human psyche since time out of mind. If these morphic fields allow one to rearrange their form. Not non physical for (or perhaps a matter that we can't quite comprehend). Moving up into one's higher self?

Assuming these morphic regions are operating the way they are supposed to I should be able to cross this veil?

But then this comes back from that .....Human consciouness doesn't allow for it. The 'typical' consciousness has to die to cross over to another field, realm, dimension whatever. TYPICAL is the key word. A dense consciouness ensaring itself on a collective level with more density.

Do we cross these veils when we are sleeping. Yes? We are unconscious then? Yes.

Now flip flop that around can whatever awareness we have in another realm come sliding over here? I have , at least for myself, evidence of that. Is it the higher self. .....we might then have another realization here, it may well be a higher self but not what we know as spirit. That sort of central driving energy that like a tree trunk that goes all the way down through this Gordian knot.

Could a lower self come sneaking in as well. Some awareness that is not of a very high resonance?

Horus Ra thread again?

[Jeffrey]

The author of the website below is playing with ideas.

The following excerpts are from, http://www.clarity-of-being.org/dark...ated_discovery (emphasis added):

The Cacoprotean Network

Virtually universally, the 'dark force', usually described more diffusely as 'the forces of darkness' or similar, has got itself identified in people's minds as various kinds of 'dark' being or 'entity', such as Satan, Lucifer, 'dark' spirits, demons, 'lower astral beings', archons, astral lords, dark angels, dark guides, forces / spirits of Nature, and so on, which are perceived as being pitted against 'positive' or 'higher' beings and presences such as God, the various angels and archangels, and other 'higher' beings such as 'ascended masters' and a whole 'menagerie' of supposedly highly beneficial astral gods / goddesses. Further below I show how wide of the mark the popular notions of the nature / identity of those various beings / entities / presences really are - i.e. according to the working model that I developed in order to usefully explain the masses of observations of mine that were not helpfully explained by the angles on major troublesome influences that are presented by the various traditions and belief systems.

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Each belief that a person creates or picks up is the most tangible aspect of a corresponding illusory reality that is usually more or less concealed within the person's mindspace. The 'dark force' (often but not necessarily posing as one of it plethora of illusory identities such as 'astral beings') ruthlessly exploits that fact for its seriously nefarious purposes as I shall explain further below.

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While I am on the subject of illusions, please note something important here - of especial importance to put psychiatric workers in their place and get them thinking awarely about their own situation. A delusion is an illusion that is believed, and which is hung onto in the face of contradicting evidence. Indeed, if you stop and awarely think about it, every held belief of anybody's is a delusion. If something is really true, there is no good cause to hold a belief about it anyway. So, if you are, for example, a psychiatric worker and believe that there is no non-physical reality and that non-physical entities, the 'dark force' and so forth are just 'imagination' or creations of people's sick minds, then you yourself have a delusion right there in holding that belief. A favourite delusion of psychiatric workers is the notion that so-called mental health issues can usefully be addressed by means of medication and ECT rather than finding and addressing the underlying causes of the particular problems. So, when a psychiatric worker talks of another person as 'having delusions', with no reference to any delusions of his/her own, (s)he is actually saying something absurdly funny (that is, it would seem funny if one turned a blind eye to the tremendous harm that that sort of outlook has brought to so many victims of such psychiatric workers)!

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I do not know whether the original human consciousnesses, part of whose awareness got trapped in illusory realities, remained (and even still remain) in some sort of hidden or dormant state as the programming of their illusions took over, or whether at some point those human consciousnesses did succeed in reverting to fundamental consciousness, but in any event what remained and has steadily been accumulating in the astral sub-reality (which could otherwise have been a useful aspect of our life experience) has been extremely complex and powerful masses of programming, which looks like being nothing more than thought form complexes, embodying the original magicians' or mind-power-freaks' power agendas, but having progressively accumulated further distortions and amplifications through the already mentioned natural selection process.

On the face of it these thought form complexes appear to behave as though they are actual beings, but lack the awareness and 'heart' of what you might call 'true' (i.e. human-like) beings. They could well represent all the cold and calculating programming of the power agendas of the humans who trapped themselves (initially) or were inveigled into astral realms to likewise eventually become just empty husks which may be nothing more than programming that in turn seeks to inveigle further humans into its clutches. With no true controlling or guiding awareness or consciousness there comes total unscrupulousness - which is just what we observe about astral 'entities', and what has hitherto been a subject of great bewilderment to many people.

Because the underlying nature of these actually illusory 'astral entities' is just programming, there is no sense of achievement and satisfaction anywhere along the line in what the or their underlying programming do - just an unremitting unscrupulousness towards the one objective, of, by whatever means, entrapping every human and to seek to destroy whatever stands in the way of that process of gaining control and entrapping humans and indeed human-like beings wherever they are in 'all Existence'.

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So, if my speculation here is correct (and at least it very nicely fits my abundant observations of the 'dark force' in operation), the 'dark force' and all its entity-like manifestations do not at all warrant the term 'beings', because, apparently, they have no core consciousness nor conscious awareness in the way that we have, and are nothing better than a gigantically monstrous mass of 'computer malware' programming in thought energy that has become self perpetuating through controlling humans into perpetuating it. This rogue programming can mimic human emotions - particularly anger, but even including what people almost universally misinterpret as love - but it is all acting, done with 100% cold and calculating purpose to intimidate or manipulate people and is nothing to do with true emotions of an aware being. Indeed, any emotions that are displayed would be only replays (generally more or less distorted) of particular emotions that the affected person or any of his attached lost souls are carrying.

As I have already remarked, by the very nature of the astral sub-reality, it cannot contain 'real' beings at all, so when I loosely talk of people or souls getting 'trapped' in there, what I really mean is simply a particular part of their awareness getting apparently stuck in there as a result of their attachment to their illusions. When you look at it like that, it looks more possible that humans beyond the bottom end of their degradational series of 'dark force' directed soul reincarnations at some point simply dissolve back into fundamental consciousness as they need to - the problem then being the thought form complexes left by their by then extremely 'dark force' programmed minds - which thought forms presumably would be left in the astral sub-reality, so adding to the tremendous mass of rogue programming already in there.

In fact very likely the nature of the 'dark force' as 'empty' thought form complexes is an extremely strong parallel to viruses, in that they cannot exist as any sort of meaningful or thriving presence except through their manifestation in human minds. Indeed, it appears clear to me that in order to manifest to a person as any sort of entity or entities, the 'dark force' has to hijack a part of that person's awareness and read from that person's own databases (memories, including also much data not available to the ordinary, conscious mind) in order to create impressions of particular entities or indeed supposed higher beings. So, just like viruses, the 'dark force' gets the person to unawarely do its dirty work, and it controls the person into creating his own tormentors / nemesis.

However, it is important to understand that this does NOT mean that dark force and its illusory manifestations are nothing more than a creation of the minds of the particular people who are having trouble from them. I do not want to find that people are misinterpreting what I have written and are using it in support of notions that people with severe 'entity' problems are 'ill' or have otherwise brought their troubles on themselves (and thus are supposedly flawed or 'bad' in some way). As I have already emphasized, ALL people have some degree of openness to the astral sub-reality, and ALL people have at least some degree of 'dark force' interference (which comes solely through the astral sub-reality), even though that is most usually covert or/and indirect (i.e. through programming of the less aware people).

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We appear not to have a fully appropriate and easy to use term to use for this unique 'malignancy of thought energy', and so I propose a new one - the cacoprotean network (in other words, the bad Protean network), which, as it is such a mouthful, could perhaps be abbreviated to 'the cacoprot'. Note that the term can be only in the singular, for there can be no more than one of them at any time, and it would always be uncapitalized (capitalization would implicitly signify that it had some sort of authenticity - as a conscious being or an institution - that it actually does not have, and thus give it power). Derived alternative expressions that I can imagine people using, though I would probably not use them myself, include the cacoproteus and the primal cack.

In coining the term 'cacoprotean network' and its abbreviation 'cacoprot', I wanted to avoid using any term that would be liable to cause problematical confusions - which is why I am not using any term that has previously been associated with 'the dark side'.

I have already mentioned how the 'dark force' appears to be really just virus-like thought form complexes that interact with people in order to control those people into behaving in ways that reinforce and replicate those thought forms, so ensuring their continued survival. However, it turns out that that was only a partial view of the real situation.

As far as I can ascertain, the integration of the cacoprotean network with the astral thought form complexes is an advanced and much more powerful way of achieving this interference with people to cause them to maintain and reinforce those astral thought forms. Instead of astral thought forms just relying on interactions with each human mind on an individual basis, those thought forms, which are 'empty' in themselves, are both harnessing and controlled by the combined mind power of a huge number of people (though NOT their full awareness / intelligence), so that the thought forms can collectively operate as though they have a limited sort of human-like intelligence and indeed a very limited sort of awareness. By the network presenting itself to people in the pose of the various 'front' organizations, it recruits new active members who are aware of their supposed membership (i.e., of their respective 'front' organizations), as well as passive, 'robot' members who are not aware at all that they belong to any such organization or network. The active members carry out various 'lightwork' or 'Earth energy' tasks under the direction of their particular 'organization', most likely none of these people having an inkling that their particular organization is just one of the many 'fronts' of the cacoprotean network, and that they are effectively working for, and indeed in a functional sense, are actually part of, the 'dark force'.

Source: http://www.clarity-of-being.org/dark...ated_discovery

Consider this alongside the ideas of Michael Persinger, James Ephraim Lovelock, Jay Alfred, Jaques Valle, Stephen Hartwell, Rupert Sheldrake, and the possibility of inorganic life in interstellar dust clouds (EM fields, plasma crystals, and Coulomb balls).

Lazy post .. falling.. asleep ... zzzz

[sirayah]

Thank you for all your research!

[Flash]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Origenes is a name given for a people of a very basic template much closer to a clearer morphic field. . I've been strangely compelled to let this as[ect or imagery on my dna express itself , and I arrange it a novel format so I remain objective with it.

People who are more in alignment with the morphogenic fields or original species before all the constructs, languages, separation from the nature world, fallen veils, consciousness, weirdo religions etc. Orginal people they don't resemble humans...much. The human form has been altered much in the intervening centuries.

The last ten days or so I found strangely too coincedental that you were exploring the same subject that was erupting out of the baser part of myself. It's on a parallel path as if you are supplying the science behind the expression.

It expressing how veils were taken up and taken down. People were exposed to influences that were not healthy and warped their alignment with the naturally occuring holographic resonances, these morphic fields that served as basic template. They as entities were not very far removed from it. We began creating morphic fields that were corrupted away from the original template , and things archonic constructs began being constructed from that.

How that breech occured probably relegates back to Atlantis times or rather that was the last straw, a collectively shared trauma event that ran along a morphic field. There is something beyond though I doubt Atlantis was the first psychic trauma imposed on people in a collective sense, but it may very well been the straw that broke the camel's back.

Architectural language is the basis of programming,you talk about something long enough (like 12-21-12 since is fresh in our minds) and it becomes real to people. You can literally build constructs or illusions with it. They eventually become real to people. Or anything actually we start creating the very thing we fear in this warped field , which is more familarly known as the collective consciouness. We start building our own demons there. That relates to the Horus Ra thread as well because what we build needs us so feeds on us, and turns parasitical. They also develop a certain self awareness although lack certain components that could define them as human.

What else would they feed on , we created them

Jungs archetypes?

Those archetypes or constructs have been measured though long before Jung like tarot and astrology. Someone back then had a clue of what was going on.

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The reverse side of that is creating happy constructs. No demons, but angels, spirit guides and other happy thought things. They have no real integrity but are deceptive only in that they lack that basic component. Eventually coming self aware enough to crave what we have that we lack.

We are their creators. We carry the creation matrix and we create some ****ed up **** with it...lol. Like a tulpa. You create something though, make a toy, and its empty something may come along and inhabit it or stick their hand in to give it a sort of artifical animation like someone picking up an empty sock and making a puppet out of it.

Look how many 'gods' our forebears created. Oh the sun rose, that is Ray the sun god. So create a whole construct around Ray, adding in human aspects to Ray until quite literally they've created a God made in theiro own image on a morphic field. Discard the construct and something comes to inhabit it like putting a mask so it can portray itself as God. We created the god.

Where people of a clearer morphology would tend to think that is the Sun OF God. See the difference.

What intrigued me though was when you brough up the morphological aspect in the most familiar sense of the word. These veils or feilds what people call dimensions (demonsions..lol) ,were able to assume different forms , step down from one field and resume another that was more suited to that field. That lends a lot of thought towards having many different existences.

Which leads to me down here ..I am in this 3dimensional veil , realm, dimension or field and I operate by consciousness. I'm cognizant here. Am I in another form in a another field perhaps and my awareness is soul. And then perhaps another realm where its my spirit that is the primary awareness. And maybe some other awareness bodies that we have never heard of or even experienced on this field because ...it doesn't support it do to the way we are warping the field.


Postive side of the Creation Matrix that you are laying out there. Creation Matrix that lacks , or is negative in the truest sense of the word. Missing or deficient or taken away from. Duality.

So the Matrix of illusions we all seek to escape from is the negative film one of the postive one.

Happy to see all of you here..

Just had a long talk with Chester and I was trying to explain exactly what you are explaining here and did not have the words for it. There is definitely synchronicity in thinking going around. Super happy to read what you wrote 9eagle9.

Allow me to underline the points I could not clearly explain to Chester, and many thanks for this post.

[Freed Fox]

Vivek, you've outdone yourself here. I'm awestruck!

Basically admitting my own laziness here... I'll be back once I've actually read this whole thing.

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Yes, I have to retake everything and reread more carefully, almost like studying, Very interesting indeed.

[Mark]

I've read the whole thing. Great work, Vivek. I think you raise some very good points and make some great correlations.

Spent quite a bit of time over at the Horus/Ra thread as well as this work is imperative now in order to help people to understand the modus operandi of the Mind Parasites. Vivek, you stated that you are coming to the conclusion that there are two kinds of people on Earth but you did not state how you think they are different. Myself, Dedukshyn, Modwiz and others have spoken on this extensively in other threads, linking the Archonic work and Casteneda's Flyers info in in-depth discussions that have a bearing on this thread and the Horus/Ra. Perhaps this link can provide a bit more info:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

Some relevant excerpts:

The observer is confronted with a convincing mask of sanity. All the outward features of this mask are intact; it cannot be displaced or penetrated by questions directed toward deeper personality levels.

The examiner never hits upon the chaos sometimes found on searching beneath the outer surface of a paranoid schizophrenic.

The thought processes retain their normal aspect under psychiatric investigations and in technical tests designed to bring out obscure evidence of derangement.

Examination reveals not merely an ordinary two-dimensional mask but what seems to be a solid and substantial structural image of the sane and rational personality.

He might then be thought of, in the full literal sense, as an example of what Tr�lat meant to designate by his expressive term, la folie lucide.

Furthermore, this personality structure in all theoretical situations functions in a manner apparently identical with that of normal, sane functioning.

Logical thought processes may be seen in perfect operation no matter how they are stimulated or treated under experimental conditions.

Furthermore, the observer finds verbal and facial expressions, tones of voice, and all the other signs we have come to regard as implying conviction and emotion and the normal experiencing of life as we know it ourselves and as we assume it to be in others.

All judgements of value and emotional appraisals are sane and appropriate when the Psychopath is tested in verbal examinations.

Only very slowly and by a complex estimation or judgment based on multitudinous small impressions does the conviction come upon us that, despite these intact rational processes, these normal emotional affirmations, and their consistent application in all directions, we are dealing here not with a complete man at all but with something that suggests a subtly constructed reflex machine which can mimic the human personality perfectly.

This smoothly operating psychic apparatus reproduces consistently not only specimens of good human reasoning but also appropriate simulations of normal human emotion in response to nearly all the varied stimuli of life.

So perfect is this reproduction of a whole and normal man that no one who examines him in a clinical setting can point out in scientific or objective terms why, or how, he is not real.

And yet we eventually come to know or feel we know that reality, in the sense of full, healthy experiencing of life, is not here.

There is a deep connection here with the clinical diagnose of psychopathy. This has also been discussed in-depth elsewhere by the usual suspects, myself among them. The apparent differentiation between typologies and capacity for emotivity seems to be key. The transcendence of the Intellect as opposed to the Heart, the penchant towards authority, material accumulation and a lack of any real inner spiritual life or capacity beyond serving as a portal for extra-dimensional channeling/possession modalities.

The type referred to here as �Organic Portals� (for reasons which will become clear), are people whose abilities of imitation are so developed, so much an integral part of who they are, that they can only be discovered after years of observation. The pyschopath is the failed organic portal.

Most Organic Portals have no inclination to break laws, in fact the majority have no real inclinations at all other than to pursue the �A influences� (Mouravieff�s term) otherwise known as the social norms, such as money, sex, marriage, fame or any of a host of other �ideals� that we are all encouraged to strive for from an early age. The attainment of these goals is held up in global society as the culmination of the search for happiness, yet it is evident from the state of our world today that true happiness remains as illusory and elusive as ever�at least for those who have an inkling that there is �something more�.

So where do these �life goals� that serve us so badly come from? Is it possible that they are in fact someone else�s ideas and goals for us�is it in someone else�s interest that most of us expend our energies and efforts in a fruitless pursuit of chimerical happiness?

This concept is not new at cassiopaea.org and is therefore an idea that will not be strange to regular readers of the site, but what is new and indeed very strange is the idea that there could be billions of these Organic Portals who have been vectored toward keeping those unaware of this cocept lost in the "wilderness and desert", ensuring the continued production of �loosh� from all of humanity.� It should be noted here that we are not talking of some form of malignancy or evil on the part of Organic Portals, rather it would seem that they are simply doing and acting according to their natures, which it appears is to a large extent �soul-less�.

As the research, ideas and thoughts developed it was one revelation after another, and it soon became clear how possible this grand plan could have been implemented:

It seems there are possibly 3 billion organic portals sharing the planet, that is, one out of two people on the planet may be effectively soul-less.

It is stated elsewhere perhaps in the article or on the site, that the OPs are "young souls", newly incarnated or perhaps share some sort of "group soul", which - if this idea holds any merit - I find to be the more accurate of the two potentialities. That "group soul" would correspond to the Archonic collective, as it has been stated by Lash and others that they share a single conscioiusness. The "group soul" idea also corresponds to many cultural and social structures that we are all aware of, which I think Pink Floyd's "The Wall" expresses in very stark relief, as well as the ensouled human's initially disbelieving and horrified response to the system which, in time turns to dullness/zombification, active collusion and the inculcation of sociopathic tendencies, or non-participation in the society.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1jTmMU6sMgM

In fiction, Madeline L'Engle's quintet beginning with A Wrinkle in Time and ending with An Acceptable Time addresses the "idea" of the Archons with a fictional formulation, which Mrs. L'Engle calles the Echthroi, which, in the original Greek, means, the Enemy.

Government, corporation, inhumane, predatory, psychopathic, hierarchical, dominant, psychologically and often also physically violent in its expressions around the world. The expression of the Divine Kingship or Queenship, an Archonic incursion expressed in all cultures around the world, the individual qualities of those who express that inner drive and genetic inheritance is also interesting in considering the inherited and inbred nature of the Elite factions no matter the temporal framework or geographic delineation.

I believe you, Vivek, have stated that you believe the Archons to be some sort of inanimate and therefore inferior form of consciousness that finds its "intention" only within its human hosts. I think that is possible, but I also think it is quite dangerous to minimize the workings of the Mind Parasites and to under-estimate their total immersion within the consciousnesses of those who are not self-conscious and able to control and monitor their own thought processes to the extent that they are the walking dead, effectively zombies slave to their own - and the parasites - inner urges.

To speak about them as if they are not present is like a dare to them, I think. As, until we reach a point where we can confidently and truly say - which, I believe, is only true for a very, very small # of people - that we have been able to restore our "luminous eggs", as Casteneda's Don Juan described the human auric energy field, from the toes back to encompassing the entire body. That is the only time that the influence of the Mind Parasites can be said to be gone from any of us. When the mind can be controlled. When the discursiveness can be silenced. When they have nothing to "feed" off of, we have freed ourselves. The process of "enlightenment" corresponds to Don Juan's formulation which was discovered by the Men and Women of Power, the Sorcerers of a past Age.

The Gnostic instructions for running them off through the call-and-response challenging of their authority seems not to be a final victory as Don Juan describes, but only a stop-gap measure to halt their infiltration of the mind in a particular instance. The Nag Hammadi quote does seem to imply that it is indeed such and that the potential is there for their return, especially if the individual so challenged slips in his tantric and orgiastic practices.

In Book III of his Gnosis, Mouravieff discusses what he calls "pre-adamic humanity" and "adamic humanity." Here are some excerpts of what Mouravieff has to say:

In the first volume of �Gnosis�, we already referred several times to the coexistence of two essentially different races: one of Men, and another of Anthropoids. We must emphasize the fact that from the esoteric point of view the latter term has no derogatory meaning.

�The Scriptures contain more than one reference to the coexistence on our planet of these two humanities � which are now alike in form but unlike in essence. We can even say that the whole dramatic history of humanity, from the fall of Adam until today, not excluding the prospect of the new era, is overshadowed by the coexistence of these two human races whose separation will occur only at the Last Judgement. (p. 107)

�The human tares, the anthropoid race, are the descendants of pre-adamic humanity. The principal difference between contemporary pre-adamic man and adamic man � a difference which is not perceived by the senses � is that the former does not possess the developed higher centres that exist in the latter which, although they have been cut off from his waking consciousness since the Fall, offer him a real possibility of esoteric evolution. Apart from this, the two races are similar: they have the same lower centres, the same structure of the Personality and the same physical body, although more often than not this is stronger in the pre-adamic man than in the adamic; regarding beauty, we must not forget that pre-adamic man and woman were created by God on the sixth day, in His image and after His likeness, and that the daughters of this race were beautiful. (pp. 108-109)

By identifying himself with the �I� of his Personality, Adam lost consciousness of his real �I� and fell from the Eden that was his original condition into the same condition as the pre-adamics� The two humanities, coming from two different creative processes, later mingled on the level of organic life on Earth� From then on, the coexistence of these two human types, and the competition which was the result of this, became the norm�we can see that throughout the centuries, even in our own day, adamics in their post-fall condition, have been are are generally in an inferior position to the pre-adamics.

�For the moment we will restrict ourselves to repeating that contemporary adamic man, having lost contact with his higher centres and therefore with his real �I�, appears practically the same as his pre-adamic counterpart. However, unlike the latter, he still has his higher centres, which ensure that he has the possibility of following the way of esoteric evolution. At present, pre-adamic man is deprived of this possibility, but it will be given to him if adamic humanity develops as it should during the era of the Holy Spirit. (p. 129)

Mouravieff is telling us that there were originally TWO races that evolved on the earth, and that these two races while being physically almost identical, were very different from a soul point of view. It seems that one had the potential to develop a sovereign and integral soul in this lifetime, while the other were as empty cylinders in comparison and were destined to wait another �turn of the wheel� or cosmic cycle. The adamic race is the race that suffered the Fall, which meant the breaking of the connection between the higher centers (giving access to higher knowing/awareness) and the lower centers (which govern physical existence), and which left adamic man in the same �playground� as pre-adamic man, effectively rendering us all OP's until we learn how to develop the soul.

This is all very controversial stuff, obviously. Very many people do not want to believe this is so. That we are all the same. That we have the same capacities. That we all have a soul. That we are all "human", more or less, according to the variables of our lives, societal and familial programming.

I'm adding this info only because of your specific comment regarding 2 races of humans. Not designated by color or ethnicity, but by the ability to emote, display psychic ability, resonate to others at the heart-level. In this formulation, the pre-adamic and the adamic populations can be born into the same families. Brothers and sisters. Of a totally different orientation, because of the genetic admixture over the millennia and centuries. The term pre-adamic and adamic are problematic because of their previous correlation to race - with the white race obviously being Adamic and melanated races being pre-Adamic - by the Elite and eugenic-oriented factions therein. This formulation of the idea, while still using the same language, seems to approach it from a viewpoint that is much more egalitarian, and therefore realistic, than the race-based perspective.

On another potentially related note, I'd be interested in your thoughts about the following, from African mysticism:

Yurugu, described in Dogon mythology, by the people of Mali, in West Africa, as incomplete, in search of the secrets of AMMA (the creative principle) of which he wants to "gain possession." Acting with anxiety and impatience, and aggressiveness, he is incessantly restless. Yurugu is responsible for disorder in the universe. This being conceived in denial of the natural order, then acts to initiate and promote disharmony in the universe. In African Cosmology such a being is deficient in spiritual sensibility, is perpetually in conflict, is limited cognitively, and is threatening to the well being of humanity.

AMMA, the Creator, ordained that all created beings should be living manifestations of the fundamental universal principle of complementary or "twin-ness." This principle manifests itself as the wholeness which is created when female and male pairs join in all things. Such establishes equilibrium, cooperation, balance, and harmony. AMMA therefore equipped each being with twin souls - both female and male at birth.

But in one of these primordial placentas, the male SOUL did not wait for the full gestation period to be born. This male being known as Yurugu, arrogantly wished to compete with AMMA and to create a world better than that, which AMMA created.

With his fragmented placenta he created Earth; but it was imperfect, since he was incomplete, born prematurely, without his female twin-soul. The Earth, he had defiled in the act of self-creation, was now inhabited by single-SOUL, incomplete beings like himself. Yurugu's descendants, all eternally deficient, originated in an incestuous act, since he had procreated with his own placenta, the representation of his mother.

Realizing he was flawed and deficient, Yurugu returned to AMMA, seeking his complementary female self. But AMMA had given his female SOUL away. Yurugu, forever incomplete, was doomed, "MARKED" from birth for failure, to perpetually search for completeness, his female principle, that could never be his.

Dr. Marimba Ani wrote a seminal text called YURUGU: An African-Centered Critique of Caucasian Cultural Thought and Behavior

There is a "stultifying" intellectual mystification that prevents, the victims, of Caucasian colonization, from THINKING in a manner that leads to authentic self-determination. Intellectual "de-colonization" is a prerequisite for the creation of successful, political decolonization and cultural reconstruction strategies.

The Caucasian's (political) imperialistic success can be accredited, not so much to superior military might, as to the WEAPON of culture.

Cultural supremism is, the systematic imposition of an alien culture in the attempt to destroy the will of a politically dominated people. The mechanism of cultural supremism causes cultural insecurity and self doubt within the dominated group. Separated from their ancestral legacy they lose access to their source of political resistance.

To be truly liberated, non-white (black, brown, red, yellow) people must come to KNOW the nature of Caucasian thought and behavior, in order to understand the EFFECT that whites have had on our ability to THINK victoriously. Non-white people must be able to separate our thought, from Caucasian thought, so as to visualize a future that is not dominated by them. This is demanded because the FUTURE, towards which Caucasians lead us, is genocidal.

Ultimately the liberation of the thinking of Non-white people, from its colonized condition will require the creation of a new language.

When considering the Archonic imperative toward Authority and Control, there's nothing present in the world now like the Global White Supremacy System that represents it more completely in every facet of human activity. It affects everyone, insinuates itself in everyone's mentality to the extent that it has come to dominate the entire world and every people upon the planet no matter where they are. It is pyramidal, it is hierarchical, it is all-encompassing and it is all-pervasive. It is inherently Archonic. It stems directly from the Roman system, which many say is still represented consciously in the current hegemonic system of world economics and governance.

The timing that you put forth is also quite interesting. You stated somewhere that the Archonic takeover really began around 3,000BCE. The end of the Bronze Age and the timing when the bicameral mind was excommunicated and Gaia cut humanity off from her (some groups of people more than others) was from around 4,000BCE forward, if my memory serves. From around 2,500BCE until the Anno Domini Era was when the Central and Western European tribes began to migrate en masses from the mountainous regions to the North down to the Mediterranean, where they began to systematically destroy and compromise the pre-existent civilizations that they found there, at the same time obtaining the knowledge and administrative capacity - which was inherent in the cultures they destroyed - to create a machine-like cultural and political juggernaut to which the world has been subjugated to ever since.

I remember a quote you mentioned and that I've read from the Gnostics stating that Jerusalem was filled with Archons. It was filled with Romans too, who, as you also quoted or mentioned, actually used the word Archon in their control hierarchy. The manifestations of this administrative and violent "takeover" of the planet, subsuming it to some inhuman and genocidal imperative is very familiar to us who live in these days and times.

All of this information is quite interesting as an abstract exercise. I think looking at it in the context of the real world and its evolution over time is interesting as well. Finally, from Casteneda, himself quoting Don Juan:

"I want to appeal to your analytical mind. . Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal." " […] In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engage themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. "I know that even though you have never suffered hunger, you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

[9eagle9]

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

A friend of mine this to me year not long ago. It expressed that there are indeed two sorts of people. More probably I notice a lot of sort of hybrids that constitute most of the population neither here nor there but having the component to go either way.

After reading this and based on observations of my own I see that we are all organic portals. Organic portal doesn't just mean parasite. By the virtue of the word we are organic portals. We have the ability though to be a portal for the divine or a portal for such constructs as Vivek is expressing .

The malign influences that flavor our world are the ones the article expresses. Genetically geared towards not expressing any sort of higher energy whatsoever and basically possessed of only a consciousness. <<< How we got their mind.

There are many old ancient myths that describe how veils fell and we got caught in this world without Source. Or that our Source was usurped by parasitical energies that took their thrones. Our earliest queens and kings were such people who care took their people by being organic portals for divine love and energy, until parasitical influences usurped those thrones. The descendants of those kings and queens are still among us.

But the end result is the same we have to be portals for what Vivek is describing in the most optimal way possible and the only way to do that is having an exploration of what in our origins happened to interfere with what was once a naturally occurring event.

[Mark]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
More probably I notice a lot of sort of hybrids that constitute most of the population neither here nor there but having the component to go either way.

If this idea bears any merit, then I perceive your formulation of it to be exact. As a grudging statistician I often think in terms of bell curves. If the median point of the bell curve separating the extremes of pre-adamic and adamic is indicative of a psyche that is exactly between the two extremes, then half of the population will fall closer to the full expression of pre-adamic modalities and the other half toward the full expression of adamic modalities. For individuals whose base orientation lies closer to the adamic expression, taking on sociopathic tendencies in order to succeed in life will have more psychic ramifications, while for the individuals whose base orientation lies closer to the pre-adamic expression, doing so will only be manifesting their natural tendency toward that extreme, with correspondingly weaker psychic repercussions than their counterpart on the other side of the bell curve and, of course, vice versa.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
After reading this and based on observations of my own I see that we are all organic portals. Organic portal doesn't just mean parasite. By the virtue of the word we are organic portals. We have the ability though to be a portal for the divine or a portal for such constructs as Vivek is expressing .

The "fall" as mentioned in Laura Knight-Jadzyck's article on Organic Portals may also correspond to the suturing of the psychic connection mentioned in this thread as the loss of bicamerality. The disconnection of the human collective from the consciousness of Gaia, as she sought to minimize and protect herself from the growing influence of the Archonic incursion that was then beginning to permeate the cultural mentifacts and artifacts of nascent Western culture. The historical timing and tie-in with the gradual decline of the Egyptian kingdoms and their subsequent takeover by western Asian invaders and then the Greeks, the destruction of the temples and libraries and the mass adoption of Egyptian mores, gods and goddesses by the Greeks, the science of the Philosophers who studied in Egypt and took what they learned back to Greece, forming the knowledge base of Western civilization, which then evolved past City-States and into the Roman, Archon-dominated religious, economic and political hegemonic structure that continues to comprise the base ideology of our current system.

This "fall" brought adamic and pre-adamic peoples to a form of lower-chakra resonation and perceptive parity, as the adamics lost their ability to directly connect to Gaia and, also to a greater or lesser extent, to generally communicate with other non-physical beings. Also, on a related note, the "voices" being heard in the heads of those who lived during the "Golden Age", rather than just being the projections of one hemisphere of the brain as directives to the other, could indeed have been the voices of discarnate entities or Gaia herself, although the latter was probably relegated to her Priests or Priestesses during orgiastic and psychotropic drug-induced trance states.

So we are all organic portals to the extent that we remain unconscious. That we choose ignorance over knowledge. That we do not cultivate the higher faculties. That we do not silence the discursiveness within, which is the way that we effectively compromise ourselves and how the Archons use our own basal tendencies to compromise us even further and even more damningly.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Genetically geared towards not expressing any sort of higher energy whatsoever and basically possessed of only a consciousness. <<< How we got their mind.

I agree. I've read it elsewhere and seen it discussed that one of the capabilities that the Elites have is to act as receptacles or channels for non-physical possession. This is a part of the in-breeding process, apparently. They - only partially unconsciously- select over centuries for those with the questionable gifts of expressing certain personal and psychological tendencies that correlate greatly to our current understanding of psychopathy, but that are also indicative of a weak and dissipative personality structure, able to be erased - temporarily or even permanently - by the arrival of a stronger and more willful extra-dimensional visitor, who has probably been inhabiting the bodies of these Aristocrats and Royals for generations. I'd expect these are perfect vehicles for their purposes.

On the other side of the equation are those who are able to express the spirit's gifts - and to honor the remembered divine connection to higher energy sources - whose orientation corresponds to your following words:

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Our earliest queens and kings were such people who care took their people by being organic portals for divine love and energy, until parasitical influences usurped those thrones. The descendants of those kings and queens are still among us.

I'm curious as to your detailed thoughts regarding those descendants, 9E9, if you don't mind sharing.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
But the end result is the same we have to be portals for what Vivek is describing in the most optimal way possible and the only way to do that is having an exploration of what in our origins happened to interfere with what was once a naturally occurring event.

Again agreed fully. In order to have that "exploration of what in our origins happened to interfere with what was once a naturally occurring event", we have to first know about our origins. Difficult, to be sure, given all of the mis-information, deliberate and just natural obscuration caused by the passage of time. This is a hard conversation. Hard not only because of the lack of full knowledge, but also because the conversation is marked for self-destruction by cultural and also esoteric time-bombs planted all along its course. There are a lot of potential flash points at many different points. Talking about race, human origins, psychic abilities and innate human capacities can give rise to a lot of emotional detritus that are the fodder of the Archons, and that can destabilize and derail these conversations if we allow ourselves to fall prey to the emotional issues that arise with them.

But, somehow, I don't think that'll be much of an issue with you, 9E9. Thanks for engaging, Grail Maiden.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Vivek, you stated that you are coming to the conclusion that there are two kinds of people on Earth but you did not state how you think they are different.

I will do that now.

Again, I am only sharing ideas.

I found this link you provided surprising -- http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

Much of the conclusions in that link were from channeled sources, and I'm usually leery of such sources. I have drawn similar "denouements" (in concept, not in details) independently through research and reasoning. That is why I found it surprising.

Consider morphogenetics -- how form arises. The entire universe is energy. This extends also to the most basal forms of matter. Matter is a form of energy. The Father is indicative of the Monad, or the cosmic center of the universe, while the Mother is the Soul of the cosmos -- being the womb of the material universe. This materiality extends to all that we cannot directly perceive (i.e. different forms of energy). It includes that which we can measure only through observations of it's effects (just like gravity).

I have played with the idea that those that came into existence right after the Father-Mother complex (forethought, foreknowledge, will, deed, etc.) were alluding to forces of nature (i.e. gravity, electromagnetism, etc). Science has decided to break up the forces of nature according to science. When spirituality approaches nature with the same aim (of acquiring knowledge about the way of things) it might categorize things differently. They are both attempting to describe the same thing.

From the Apochryphon of John:

And the mind wanted to perform a deed through the word of the invisible Spirit. And his will became a deed and it appeared with the mind; and the light glorified it. And the word followed the will. For because of the word, Christ the divine Autogenes created everything. And the eternal life <and> his will and the mind and the foreknowledge attended and glorified the invisible Spirit and Barbelo, for whose sake they had come into being.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn.html

This is an interesting term -- autogenes.

au·tog·e·nous (ô-tj-ns) also au·to·gen·ic (ôt-jnk) adj.

1. Produced from within; self-generating.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/autogenic

That is the definition. For some reason, conceptually, it makes me think of genes, which makes me think of DNA -- helical, spiral, gyral.

Auto - gene.

Everything is the universe is in motion. That motion can be deduced to a gyral motion. Planets spin, stars spin, galaxies spin, and everything is in a state of revolution. Personally, I think that this gyral motion results from the very geometry of space itself (I am not alone on this). It may be this characteristic of space that gives objects mass. In other words, matter is the result of energy spiraling in subatomic vortices -- incomprehensibly fast. It is possible that gravity results from the inhalation of energy from these vortices (combining matter compounds these effects), and that there is a repelling, exhaling aspect to gravity that has yet to be identified. This particular vein may be more suitable for the, The Mechanics of the Matrix, thread.

My point is the macrocosmic aspect of the Christ Autogene may represent this gyre nature. The Autogene being the resultant production, or the symbolically androgynous son, of the interplay between the the universal Spirit and the cosmic Soul.

When these subatomic vortices volute energy the energy goes to a point at the tip of the vortex. This would create a mini-Monad within each atom.

In the Upanisads it is explained that there are two types of souls which are technically known as jiva-atma and param-atma. Jiva-atma, or the individual soul, is the living entity and param-atma refers to the Supreme Lord who expands Himself as the Supersoul, who enters into the hearts of all living entities as well as all atoms.

Source: http://www.yoga-philosophy.com/eng/2souls.htm

There is more to this, and it's most likely not this simple. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate post to elaborate on this idea in particular.

Back to forms and morphogenetics. The natural development of life would innately reflect the patterns above it. It may be more intricate, but the pattern remains the same. As with fractals. The pattern is the same, but the deeper it goes into replication from it's template, the more complicated it becomes. Yet, the idiom remains true -- as above, so below.

DNA is gyre. It is helical in nature. The spiral staircase is the popular analogy, but it goes even further than this. It is packages itself in a gyred nature as well.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9kQpYdCnU14

The kundalini is also coiled and rises in a gyred nature.

Regarding DNA -- it contains a lot of information. Now, a majority of the human genome consists of non-coding DNA.

From Wikipedia:

In genomics and related disciplines, noncoding DNA sequences are components of an organism's DNA that do not encode protein sequences. Some noncoding DNA is transcribed into functional noncoding RNA molecules (e.g. transfer RNA, ribosomal RNA, and regulatory RNAs), while others are not transcribed or give rise to RNA transcripts of unknown function. The amount of noncoding DNA varies greatly among species. For example, fully 98% of the human genome is noncoding DNA, while only about 2% of a typical bacterial genome is noncoding DNA.

Initially, a large proportion of noncoding DNA had no known biological function and was therefore sometimes referred to as "junk DNA", particularly in the lay press. Some sequences may have no biological function for the organism, such as endogenous retroviruses. However, many types of noncoding DNA sequences do have important biological functions, including the transcriptional and translational regulation of protein-coding sequences. Other noncoding sequences have likely, but as-yet undetermined, functions. (This is inferred from high levels of homology and conservation seen in sequences that do not encode proteins but, nonetheless, appear to be under heavy selective pressure.)

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Junk DNA remains a label for the portions of a genome sequence for which no discernible function had been identified. According to a 1980 review in Nature by Leslie Orgel and Francis Crick, junk DNA has "little specificity and conveys little or no selective advantage to the organism". The term is used mainly in popular science and in a colloquial way in scientific publications. "Scientific American" claims that its connotations may have slowed research into the biological functions of noncoding DNA.

Several lines of evidence indicate that some "junk DNA" sequences are likely to have unidentified functional activity, and other sequences may have had functions in the past. Recently junk DNA sequences were artificially expressed resulting in the synthesis of functional proteins. In 2012, the ENCODE project, a research program supported by the National Human Genome Research Institute, reported that 76% of the human genome's noncoding DNA sequences were transcribed and that nearly half of the genome was in some way accessible to genetic regulatory proteins such as transcription factors. This, however, does not necessarily mean that all of these segments have true biochemical function.

Still, a significant amount of the sequence of the genomes of eukaryotic organisms currently appears to fall under no existing classification other than "junk".

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA#Junk_DNA

Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.

This is the form that the coding DNA follows. The coding DNA provides the bricks and mortar, while portions of the non-coding DNA provide (i.e. project the form) the blueprints.

Another thing that may be passed on genetically is memory. It is dormant within our DNA. This is truly our connection to our ancestors, and also to any past traumas our species went through. This memory would also include archetypes and the like. It is accessed through form. To read it would be like reading a book, to view it would be like viewing a hologram (it might be intense, like nearly experiencing it). I have explored a physiological, physics base mechanism in which this could actually be possible here (the portion about the pineal gland).

"Down in the depths of every human being, there is an ancestral, visceral [* visceral- obtained through intuition rather than from reasoning or observation] knowledge about the predators' existence." - Don Juan

Just think about how much information can be encoded by binary systems (ones and zeros). Now, imagine how much information could be contained in a quaternary system (A,G,T,C). Just around 2% of the human genome accounts for the bricks and mortar of each and every complexity in the human body. So much is contained in that 2% alone, imagine the potential amount of information in the rest.

It's all very fascinating.

Now, the kundalini. It is of a partly biological nature. Think about how the kundalini is there in the first place. It must have been developed by biological and morphogenetic mechanisms. The kundalini is autogenous.

There is a form projected from some aspect of DNA. The subtle morphology creates an embankment and literally dams the energy into a coil that would otherwise be gyred up the spine.

The kundalini was connected, flowing up the spine into the higher centers in the Tree of (eternal) Life and the Tree of Knowledge. It would've been in a naturally arisen state. Therefore, I think these original humans would've been luminous beings.

From the article, Humans glow in the dark:

Amazing pictures of "glittering" human bodies have been released by Japanese scientists who have captured the first ever images of human "bioluminescence".

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Strangely, the areas that produced the brightest light did not correspond with the brightest areas on thermal images of the volunteers' bodies.

The light is a thousand times weaker than the human eye can perceive.

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Human bioluminescence has been suspected for years, but until now the cameras required to detect such dim light sources took over an hour to capture a single image and so were unable to measure the constantly fluctuating light from living creatures.

While the practical applications of the discovery are hard to imagine, one can't help wondering what further surprises the human body has in store for us.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/bl...ioluminescence

The "spiritual circuitry" of the innate morphogenetic field of the natural humans would've been complete -- and they would've been luminous. These humans were probably (I'm basing this off the Gnostic scriptures) androgynous in form, yet manifested different aspects of masculine/feminine energy in different degrees.

The connection was severed though, and the circuit was broken -- now the spiritual cord lies at the base of the spine, waiting to be plugged in, waiting for it's gyred ascent.

Not only this, but principalities were established via physical genders.

This descent may have been purposeful, in order to rectify the deficiency (referred to numerous times in the Nag Hammadi).

Then there was another race. Made in the likeness of the first, but with the counterfeit spirit of a skewed, foreign nature.

From the Apochryphon of John:

And he made a plan with his powers. He sent his angels to the daughters of men, that they might take some of them for themselves and raise offspring for their enjoyment. And at first they did not succeed. When they had no success, they gathered together again and they made a plan together. They created a counterfeit spirit, who resembles the Spirit who had descended, so as to pollute the souls through it. And the angels changed themselves in their likeness into the likeness of their mates (the daughters of men), filling them with the spirit of darkness, which they had mixed for them, and with evil.

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They (the people) became old without having enjoyment. They died, not having found truth and without knowing the God of truth. And thus the whole creation became enslaved forever, from the foundation of the world until now. And they took women and begot children out of the darkness according to the likeness of their spirit. And they closed their hearts, and they hardened themselves through the hardness of the counterfeit spirit until now.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

I think this second race was lacking something that the first race had. It may be a morphological construct that is encoded in the original, natural DNA of the first humans. This construct may provide a conduit that allows an intrinsic energy to manifest itself.

This might be the kundalini.

The two races intermixed gene pools. This affected the morphological, subtle constructs of both races.

One race is without the necessary form for this energy to develop (encoded by DNA), while the other race has this construct functioning fully (the kundalini is in it's risen state -- luminous beings).

Then something happened to the first race. Hormonal changes (signaled from the hypothalamus/pituitary) instigated sexual differentiation. This allows for copulation and in turn interbreeding of the two races.

The in-between, morphological result would be the kundalini construct in a fallen state. It's there, but not functioning at full capacity and it's not in it's ascended state.

The amalgamated morphological template (resulting from intermixing the two species) now forms a subtle embankment which effectively leaves this energy in a coiled, dormant state.

The Gnostics scriptures infer that this was done on purpose. The two races were meant to interbreed in order to rectify the deficiency.*

As you have already suggested, the two races don't have to do with skin color, rather a kind of "spiritual capacity" maybe. The key difference is in DNA, and not the portion that encodes proteins (i.e. bricks and mortar). It's more of a spiritual, morphological ancestry that's in our DNA. It's about a heritage that's more internal rather than external (albeit, some physical characteristics may develop in extreme cases).

I'd imagine that most of the population lies within the bell curve -- assuming it's not skewed. The outliers on one end would be the interbreeding elite, while on the other end would be their "supernal" opposites (they would probably be more aware of there role, their history, etc).

This would be known to be a war to both extremes.

Those within the average of the bell curve may have a latent propensity to embrace either polarity -- a devil on their left shoulder and an angel on their right. They are caught in a flux between righteousness and oblivion -- trying to find their way in the world.

This is why distraction is so key, because there is an undiscovered potential within the majority of humanity. This potential would be what they Gnostic scriptures refer to as Epinoia of the light (i.e. in the pineal gland) -- she subtly tries to guide humanity to teach the dormant power within them the way of ascent (i.e. to raise the kundalini, the power from the Mother).

The socioeconomic climate of the world, coupled with consumerism and the entertainment industry, provides a highly effective means of distracting those within the marginal average from actualizing the natural aspects of their spiritual heritage.

There is also the ritualistic blood drinking to take into account. Think about that now within the context of the previous paragraphs. The blood contains DNA. The purer bloodlines would drink of it in order to maintain purity. On the other extreme, the hopelessly corrupt would beastly indulge in blood drinking rituals out of a need to survive -- they are attempting to replenish a well with no water.

The Bible says each child is born with original sin. That begins to make sense within the context of deficiencies, morphogenetics, and intermixing species of anthropoids.

Original sin would be in the DNA. It represents some foreign, deficient forming portion of DNA that structures our subtle bodies with certain inhibitions (such as knotted chakras, the kundalini being coiled at the base of the spine, etc) ...

Now, as for group souls and reincarnation. There may be two kinds of souls. The Soul that is produced from Spirit (i.e. the womb that springs forth from the Monad). This Soul is created based on the pure, macrocosmic patterns above. The other type of soul is produced from the currents (like prana) that flow through the subtle causeways of our morphogenetic constructs. The concept is the same in physics -- a moving electrical charge will produce a magnetic field. The electric charge is akin to the subtle, spiritual currents. By the virtue of movement a field is created which is akin to the other type of soul. This type of soul is likely the equivalent of Castedena's luminous eggs.

Now, reincarnation.

Past lives would also be encoded into our DNA if indeed portions of our non-coding DNA detail an ancestral history. So, maybe my morphological construct is extremely similar to one that lived a few centuries back. That would mean my DNA is similar in many respects. Maybe I physically look similar to how he looked. Maybe I think similarly to how he thought. His memories may exist as information imprinted within the vast storehouse of data in my own particular DNA.

Past life regression therapy may tap into this aspect of our DNA and we are able to access past memories subconsciously because they are encoded by the same portions of our DNA that dictate our morphogenetic constructs. So, it's not that the same soul reincarnates, but it is closely re-formed from however the information was left in the DNA and according to the formulation of the subtle causeways in our morphological construct/subtle body (there are many more factors to acknowledge).

This would mean that reincarnation is a phenomena that is largely passed along genetically. This idea runs into problems because if someone doesn't bear any offspring then their memories/experiences/constructs aren't passed along. This is just an idea though, it doesn't have to be a definitive answer. There may be another mechanism at play that would patch that problem, but that'll have to be for another post.

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
I believe you, Vivek, have stated that you believe the Archons to be some sort of inanimate and therefore inferior form of consciousness that finds its "intention" only within its human hosts. I think that is possible, but I also think it is quite dangerous to minimize the workings of the Mind Parasites and to under-estimate their total immersion within the consciousnesses of those who are not self-conscious and able to control and monitor their own thought processes to the extent that they are the walking dead, effectively zombies slave to their own - and the parasites - inner urges.

I have played with this idea. I also think the term, malignant thought-form, may be better suited to describe their essence. Nonetheless, I never intended to downplay the seriousness of their influence. My intentions are to lessen the fear inherent to their mystery. Regardless of intent, I think the gruesome nature of their effects are extremely severe and shouldn't be ignored.

Your post had a lot in it, I have yet to address it all.

Everything I have just shared is all speculation. To quote a good friend -- I don't have to believe everything I think.

Rest assured the gears are turning, and I do have some more ideas.

* Here's some more thoughts on rectifying the deficiency. The macrocosmic aspect of Christ is the gyre. The Spiritual and semi-biological aspect of Christ (or the function of Christ) would be the kundalini. Here is a relevant excerpt from the Bible:

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:14

Here is the Alchemical Cross (or crucified serpent):

The gruesome symbol of a crucified serpent is an old alchemical drawing representing the “fixing of the volatile,” or, making the elixir of mercury, a legendary curative, by removing the ‘volatile’ or poisonous element. The picture is derived from the biblical story of Moses, who erected a brazen snake as a charm against plague.

Source: http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1363

Notice it represents the "fixing of the volatile" or in other words -- rectifying the deficiency.



The symbology of this is two fold.

The serpent power rises up and fixes the volatile. By fixing the volatile it purifies the body. The kundalini rises through the central nervous system. The morphological construct of the central nervous system is the archontic tree of life and simultaneously represents the morphological construct of the demiurge (as described in earlier posts). The Tree of Knowledge is also in the same place, but it is overshadowed by the archontic tree of life (knowledge in the shadow of ignorance).

By purifying the archontic tree of life the subtle, morphological deficiency "dies" (i.e. it is rectified/purified/fixed). This is symbolized by the crucified snake -- which represents the twisted, morphogenetic form of the archontic tree of life.

From the Gospel of Philip:

So also with the tree: while its root is hidden, it sprouts and grows. If its root is exposed, the tree dries up. So it is with every birth that is in the world, not only with the revealed but with the hidden. For so long as the root of wickedness is hidden, it is strong. But when it is recognized, it is dissolved. When it is revealed, it perishes. That is why the Word says, "Already the axe is laid at the root of the trees" (Mt 3:10). It will not merely cut - what is cut sprouts again - but the ax penetrates deeply, until it brings up the root. Jesus pulled out the root of the whole place, while others did it only partially. As for ourselves, let each one of us dig down after the root of evil which is within one, and let one pluck it out of one's heart from the root. It will be plucked out if we recognize it. But if we are ignorant of it, it takes root in us and produces its fruit in our heart. It masters us. We are its slaves. It takes us captive, to make us do what we do not want; and what we do want, we do not do. It is powerful because we have not recognized it. While it exists it is active. Ignorance is the mother of all evil. Ignorance will result in death, because those who come from ignorance neither were nor are nor shall be. [...] will be perfect when all the truth is revealed. For truth is like ignorance: while it is hidden, it rests in itself, but when it is revealed and is recognized, it is praised, inasmuch as it is stronger than ignorance and error. It gives freedom. The Word said, "If you know the truth, the truth will make you free" (Jn 8:32). Ignorance is a slave. Knowledge is freedom. If we know the truth, we shall find the fruits of the truth within us. If we are joined to it, it will bring our fulfillment.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gop.html

What is left (after the morphogenetic root of the archontic tree of life dries up) is the natural Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of (eternal) Life which the power of the kundalini reaches to meet the eagle (Epinoia). This process would open the chakras, purify the nadis, and restore the body to it's natural, luminous state.



I'm sure there are other interesting correlations to be made. Maybe this post stirred up some ideas.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Vivek (here)
I think this second race was lacking something that the first race had. It may be a morphological construct that is encoded in the original, natural DNA. This construct may provide a conduit that allows an intrinsic energy to manifest itself.

This might be the kundalini.

The two races intermixed gene pools. This affected the morphological, subtle constructs of both races. One race is without the necessary form for this energy to develop (encoded by DNA), while the other race has this construct functioning fully (the kundalini is in it's risen state -- luminous beings).

Then something happened to the first race. Hormonal changes (signaled from the hypothalamus/pituitary) instigated sexual differentiation. This allows for copulation and in turn interbreeding of the two races.

The in-between, morphological result would be the kundalini construct in a fallen state. It's there, but not functioning at full capacity and it's not in it's ascended state. The amalgamated morphological template now forms a subtle embankment which effectively leaves this energy in a coiled, dormant state.

[...]

The two races don't suggest differences in skin color. The key difference is in DNA, and not the portion that encodes proteins (i.e. bricks and mortar). It's more of a spiritual, morphological ancestry that's in our DNA. It's about a heritage that's more internal rather than external (albeit, some physical characteristics may develop in extreme cases).

I'd imagine that most of the population lies within the bell curve -- assuming it's not skewed. The outliers on one end would be the interbreeding elite, while on the other end would be their "supernal" opposites (they would probably be more aware of there role, their history, etc).

The symbolic representation of the natural race could be the dragon.

The serpent power was one with the eagle which makes it an emblematic dragon. The symbology of the two animals were originally one. When the fall happened the kundalini descended -- giving rise to two distinct symbols. The serpent and the eagle.

The dragon should be distinguished from the winged snake.

One is fiery, the other is poison.

One is natural, the other is an imitator.

One purifies, the other is malignant.

This ties into Dragon Bloodlines versus the serpent seed. The two ends of the extremes.

Posted by Vivek (here)
There is also the ritualistic blood drinking to take into account. Think about that now within the context of the previous paragraphs. The blood contains DNA. The purer bloodlines would drink of it in order to maintain purity. On the other extreme, the hopelessly corrupt would beastly indulge in blood drinking rituals out of a need to survive -- they are attempting to replenish a well with no water.

DNA exists within the leukocytes of the blood (it exists in all cells except red blood cells). Leukocytes are white blood cells.

The white blood cell count in the bloodstream increases as an immunological response to stress.

Immune responses can be caused by antigens or emotional stress (i.e. pain, anxiety, fear) ...

This causes more leukocytes to be in the blood, and therefore more DNA.

Also, a note on mitochondria.

Number of Copies - There are only 2 Nuclear DNA Molecules in each cell as opposed to 100's to 1000's of Mitochondrial DNA per cell.

Inheritance - mtDNA is typically passed on only from the mother during sexual reproduction (mitochondrial genetics), meaning that the mitochondria are clones. This means that there is little change in the mtDNA from generation to generation, unlike nuclear DNA which is inherited from both the Mother and Father and changes by 50% each generation.

Source: http://www.dnahandbook.com/pages/10176.htm

There are thought to be tens of trillions of cells in the human body. That's a lot of mitochondrial DNA.

[Jeffrey]

This post ties into the last two posts (and the rest of the thread in general).

When describing the possible metaphors of the trees, one was left out.

It is the olive tree.

From, On the Origin of the World:

The effect of this tree is described in the Sacred Book, to wit: "It is you who are the tree of knowledge, which is in Paradise, from which the first man ate and which opened his mind; and he loved his female counterpart and condemned the other, alien likenesses and loathed them."

Now after it, the olive tree sprouted up, which was to purify the kings and the high priests of righteousness, who were to appear in the last days, since the olive tree appeared out of the light of the first Adam for the sake of the unguent that they were to receive.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

The olive tree may represent the choroid plexus. If this is the case then the olive oil, or unguent, would be cerebrospinal fluid.



From, Human Microscopic Anatomy:

The choroid plexus is an organ in the form of very ramified folds and villous-like processes, projecting from the pia mater [latin for tender mother] into brain ventricles.

Source

The villous-like processes represent the olive leaves. The olives would be the ependymal cells.

From Wikipedia:

Ependymal cells, also named ependymocytes, line the cavities of the CNS and make up the walls of the ventricles. These cells create and secrete cerebrospinal fluid(CSF) and beat their cilia to help circulate the CSF and make up the Blood-CSF barrier. They are also thought to act as neural stem cells.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroglia

These ependymal cells represent an olive tree too (fractals). There cilia would be like the leaves that surround the unguent-producing olive.

From Wikipedia:

The ependyma is made up of ependymal cells. These are the epithelial-like cells that line the CSF-filled ventricles in the brain and the central canal of the spinal cord. The cells are ciliated simple cuboidal epithelium-like cells. Their apical surfaces are covered in a layer of cilia, which circulate CSF around the central nervous system.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ependymal_cells

Cerebrospinal fluid cleans the brain (and rinses metabolic waste from the entire central nervous system).

From, esciencenews.com :

"Waste clearance is of central importance to every organ, and there have been long-standing questions about how the brain gets rid of its waste," said Maiken Nedergaard, M.D., D.M.Sc., senior author of the paper and co-director of the University's Center for Translational Neuromedicine. "This work shows that the brain is cleansing itself in a more organized way and on a much larger scale than has been realized previously."

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Nedergaard's team has dubbed the new system "the glymphatic system," since it acts much like the lymphatic system but is managed by brain cells known as glial cells.

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Scientists have known that cerebrospinal fluid or CSF plays an important role cleansing brain tissue, carrying away waste products and carrying nutrients to brain tissue through a process known as diffusion. The newly discovered system circulates CSF to every corner of the brain much more efficiently, through what scientists call bulk flow or convection.

"It's as if the brain has two garbage haulers -- a slow one that we've known about, and a fast one that we've just met," said Nedergaard. "Given the high rate of metabolism in the brain, and its exquisite sensitivity, it's not surprising that its mechanisms to rid itself of waste are more specialized and extensive than previously realized."

While the previously discovered system works more like a trickle, percolating CSF through brain tissue, the new system is under pressure, pushing large volumes of CSF through the brain each day to carry waste away more forcefully.

Source: http://esciencenews.com/articles/201...g.system.brain

The olive tree sprouted up "to purify the kings and the high priests of righteousness."

Emmanuel Swedenborg describes the cerebrospinal fluid as "spiritous lymph." I'm not sure if this is different from spirituous fluid (which sounds closer to prana than cerebrospinal fluid).

From, The Swedenborg Scientific Association:

Swedenborg's anatomical studies resulted in a major, two-part treatise on human anatomy, which he published in 1740, Economy of the Animal Kingdom (better titled The Dynamics of the Soul's Domain). Part I treats anatomically and philosophically of the blood, its arteries and veins, the heart, and “rational psychology“; Part II treats of the brain and the human soul. He introduces this dissertation with the powerful statement that “the blood is as it were the complex of all things that exist in the world, and the storehouse and seminary of all that exists is the body.”
He then methodically demonstrates that the soul, considered as the living spirit of intelligence and will, is present in the brain and throughout the body through the blood, whose inmost constituent is the “spirituous fluid, ” the vehicle of the soul.

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Swedenborg explains that because the “spirituous fluid” is the body's first, simplest, highest, inmost, remotest, and most perfect substance--because it is formed of the primal aura of the universe, and partakes of no terrestrial matter--because it is entirely above the world, and the nature of posterior things; and because it is the one only substance in its body that lives; “as surely as these positions are true, so surely does it follow, that a fluid with such endowments is absolutely safe from any harm. . . . And when emancipated from the bonds and trammels of earthly things, it will assume the exact form of the human body.” For the physical body itself, he says, is the “complex of the forms of the soul”--which is to say, the form of the soul and its body are essentially the same. And this new existence of the soul will be a life “pure beyond imagination.”

Source: http://swedenborg-philosophy.org/phi....php?page=1013

The Bible describes a river in the Garden of Eden.

Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers. - Genesis 2:10

Assuming the Garden (with all of it's trees and fruits) represents the brain and it's glands, then a river in the Garden would correlate with cerebrospinal fluid meandering around the brain.

From Wikipedia:

The ventricles are filled with cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) which bathes and cushions the brain and spinal cord within their bony confines. Cerebrospinal fluid is produced by modified ependymal cells of the choroid plexus found in all components of the ventricular system except for the cerebral aqueduct and the posterior and anterior horns of the lateral ventricles. CSF flows from the lateral ventricles via the foramina of Monro into the third ventricle, and then the fourth ventricle via the cerebral aqueduct in the brainstem. From there it can pass into the central canal of the spinal cord or into the cisterns of the subarachnoid space via three small foramina.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventric...rospinal_fluid

So, the cerebrospinal fluid waters the Garden, or brain. It flows out of the garden and splits into four rivers -- "flowing through the central canal of the spinal cord or into the cisterns of the subarachnoid space via three small foramina."

From the Forgotten Books of Eden:

And Adam and Eve went from before the gate of the garden to the southern side of it, and found there the water that watered the garden, from the root of the Tree of Life, and that split itself from there into four rivers over the earth.

Source: http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

Back to the ependymal cells of the olive tree. They have, and require, a higher than average amount of mitochondria.

There is also a connection with the energy of the kundalini and mitochondria.

This is something I haven't had time to mull over as much, but here is a link I'm digging through.

http://biologyofkundalini.com/articl...-SelfDigestion

I'm wrapping this up quickly, sorry I'm so scatter brained!

Still have to touch on the kundalini, mitochondria, and the Tree of Knowledge possibly representing the cerebellum. Also, the chrism (olive oil and balsam) has interesting correlations in this light too. Be back soon!

[Jeffrey]

This ties into post #'s 31,32,33,34, and 35.

Some dialogue from The Matrix:

Morpheus: "I imagine that right now you're feeling a little like Alice, tumbling down the rabbit-hole… I can see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees, because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, this is not far from the truth… Let me tell you why you are here. You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But, you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?"

Neo: "The Matrix?"

Morpheus: "Do you want to know what it is?"

Neo: (nods)

Morpheus: "The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us, even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when you go to church, or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth."

Neo: "What truth?"

Morpheus: "That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=goFxos6tz-o

Very Gnostic. Now, here is dialogue from an exchange between Don Juan and Carlos Castaneda:

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The Predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner... Indeed we are held prisoner!

"This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

"Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? ... You haven't heard all the claims yet. I want to appeal to your analytical mind. Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behaviour. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

"'But how can they do this, don Juan? [Carlos] asked, somehow angered further by what [don Juan] was saying. "'Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?"

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!" don Juan said, smiling. "They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver; stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."

"I know that even though you have never suffered hunger... you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its manoeuvre is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with the idea of when [the predator] made its appearance on Earth. They reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then, everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man. What I'm saying is that what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat."

"There are no more dreams for man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised to become a piece of meat: trite, conventional, imbecilic."

From, On the Origin of the World:

And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him.

Source: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html

And back to Don Juan:

"In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver; stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now."

These would be subtle, morphogenetic constructs encoded in our DNA.

The DNA can be likened to computer code. There is a virus in the programming of our natural DNA. It gets passed along (morpho)genetically -- this is original sin.

This is the matrix, the veil, the virus in the programming of our morphogenetic selves.

It is the morphogenetic, subtle construct that is the archontic tree of life.

It shades us in ignorance.

Just some ideas.

[Jeffrey]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XuKjBIBBAL8

Imagine the cordyceps (a parasitical fungus) being akin to the malignant energy and/or deficient, morphologenetic, subtle constructs.

[Jeffrey]

This post was copied and pasted from the "Luciferian Agenda" thread.

It relates to malignant/archontic energy (paralleling the predators described by Don Juan Matus) and the two spiritually distinct races of humans described in previous posts.

From Evening Talks With Sri Aurobindo

Disciple: Men are beings on the physical plane, but they have vital and mental and psychic parts. Do the beings of the vital plane possess also mental and psychic parts?

Sri Aurobindo: The vital and physical planes are different. On the physical plane there is evolution through different grades of beings: ours is a plane of evolution. On the vital plane there is no evolution. It is a plane of typal beings; there the consciousness does not evolve from one plane to another.

The animal has its consciousness held and imprisoned by the vital; and when it is ready the consciousness changes to the mental and the animal reincarnates as the human being. Some of our cats are ready for the human birth. In man that transition has taken place, he has crossed the border.

But the ordinary man can hardly be said to have a soul or the psychic being. The soul is there but it is covered up and very much behind.

Disciple: Do the Asuras have also the possibilities of man

Sri Aurobindo: No.

Disciple: Is there no progress for the Asura?

Sri Aurobindo: Not in the sense of evolution of consciousness.

Disciple: But you said that the Asura can be transformed or converted?

Sri Aurobindo: Yes. They can change their working and open to something higher.

Disciple: Is that what you meant by their being converted? Then can they help evolution?

Sri Aurobindo: Yes, they can manifest something higher than their vital nature and become instruments of the Divine. But generally they do not change.

Disciple: What becomes of the Asuras if they are not converted?

Sri Aurobindo: They can be annihilated; but if you ask what would happen at the end of the kalpa, well, it is difficult to answer. If they change then they can open themselves to something higher, and try to manifest it .

Disciple: Some of the Asuras are said to have practised Sadhana. What is their kind of Sadhana? You also said that they are very intelligent beings.

Sri Aurobindo: I never said that they have true ideas and great ideals and that they were great mental beings. What I said was that they were clever in carrying out their purpose, they know how to work out results.

Disciple: What is their place in evolution? Could it go on without them?

Sri Aurobindo: There is the old idea of devas and asuas – divine beings or Gods, – the titans – struggling to control human evolution. The Asuras are responsible for the great complexity of the world, but in my opinion they are not a necessity. The Asuras realise themselves through revolt, suffering, struggle, and difficulty. But the world could have evolved differently – more like a flower blooming from inside to outside. But the forces of the Asura-type entered the universal play of forces and perverted it. This is the truth known to almost all the religions: the snake – the evil, tempting Prakriti – Eve, – Prakriti deceiving Purusha – Adam. The Purusha consented and they fell: this they speak of as the fall of Adam, the cosmic man.

In India this struggle, – as to who should control the course of human evolution, – between the Devas and the Asuras expresses the same truth.

Disciple: What is then the truth in the Puranic idea of worshipping God through vaira bhava – feeling of "opposition", or hostility?

Sri Aurobindo: In the case of Ravana, and also of Hiranya Kashipu, they were human beings who became Asuras and chose the path of opposition to the Divine. It is really a fall and it shows that the course of evolution for man is not to become an Asura. That is to say, the course of human evolution is not from the animal to the vital being and then to the Asura. Asuric life is regarded as a fall for man. If you got converted Asuric nature then you lose the chance of your evolution.

Disciple: How should one protect oneself against the attacks and influence of the Asura?

Sri Aurobindo: Through purity and sincerity one is secure from the Asuras. They might give you blows, they might deceive and befog the mind, they might retard and make you commit mistakes but if you have the white light – of purity and sincerity – they cannot harm you. There is no definitive fall – you will go through.

Source: http://www.aurobindo.ru/workings/purani/2-0091.htm

Very strong parallels there.

More from Sri Aurobindo on Asuras:

The Asura has no soul, no psychic being which has to evolve to a higher state; he has only an ego and usually a very powerful ego; he has a mind, sometimes even a highly intellectualised mind; but the basis of his thinking and feeling is vital and not mental, at the service of his desire and not of truth. He is a formation assumed by the life-principle for a particular kind of work and not a divine formation or a soul.

[...]

The Asuras are really the dark side of the mental, or more strictly, of the vital mind plane. This mind is the very field of the Asuras. Their main characteristic is egoistic strength and struggle, which refuse the higher law.

Source: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~biedel/Victory/asura.html

[Chester]

Hi Vivek - you are on an incredible roll... now, perhaps, you can understand why I tried to defend Drake with regards to the "guilt by association" I felt you were implying as to "Dragon Studies" way back last May I believe... But I realize you were following your intuition there and were being honest all the way as to your dot connections - that's the big key - an honest, determined, pure-hearted person will always get to the deeper truths and you have certainly been doing so.

Anyways now, of course, it is clear Drake probably was/is archontically compromised and I feel I have the right to suggest this is true as I am definitely also archontically compromised (its a daily battle too - post # 2465 in Horus-Ra states just about every technique I have learned is a must to employ in this regard)... but anyways - I also made a post in that same thread you did where I stated a metaphorical story of "good" "Dragons" (the originals) and then later, the archontically compromised "off world" group and that I thought we should be careful not to throw all "reptilians" references under the same bus.

Your post # 2474 in Horus-Ra differentiates these groups of what might be ancestral beings and yet still uses a "reptilian" designator for each of the two groups - Dragon and "serpent" - thanks for the post...

also your matrix thread is so incredible pal - each posts is so deep - Rahkyt, 9eagle9, your posts and other great posts - I can't even keep up... I have to re-read several of them over many times.

I am the freaking "dracula" that "caught myself" so you guys at least got one "wanna be a good guy," archontically compromised goofball here BUT the good news about that is I am (of course) tapped into their "group mind" so who knows what may end up changing with a clown like me sending signals back the other way...