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    Just a few more thoughts with regard to my earlier post (#44). The material below was taken from an earlier thread of mine (about a year and a half ago). Perhaps the timing is right... this time around.

    Leonard Horowitz revealed that the primary function of DNA is not in protein synthesis but bioacoustic and bioelectric signaling (electromagnetic energy reception and transmission). They determined that 90% of DNA functions of its structured water protein crystal lattice complex works as an antenna to receive sounds and to translate this sound into light/bioelectric signaling throughout the body. The ordered molecules of the clustered water increase its electrical signaling capabilities. Biochemist Steve Chemiske says that the hexagonal shaped water clusters supporting the DNA helix, “vibrate resonate frequencies which help to restore homeostasis to cell structures in the body through signal transduction.

    According to Dr. Leonard Horowitz, the structure of more than 4,000 enzymes that regulate virtually every bodily function largely depends upon these hexagonal shaped water clusters’ communication to the enzymes through an intracellular “nano-structured” filament-like protein lattice. DNA molecules are generators of radio frequency signals, RNA molecules are amplifiers, enzymes and amino acids are effectors of the signal, and the cell walls are believed to be noise filters.

    Guenter Albrecht-Buehler, Ph.D. spent over 30 years in determining that cells have intelligence and respond to specific data signals. The avenue opened up here in this field is one of cellular communication for intelligent healing, for it is the cells that determine how we are healed."

    In studies done by Jingong Pan, Kang-Nian Zhu and Zhi Y. Wang at the Center for Bio-Signaling and Systems Research Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology in trying to find a relationship between water clusters and the Meridian system as defined by Acupuncture, several things were determined. Even though modern science can measure these Meridians using a Superconducting Quantum Interference Device (SQUID), the signals are more subtle than the cellular transduction signals so it is not known yet how the signals from the Meridian system interface with our biophysical body (bioenergetically). However, significant results emerged testing water clusters.

    Heartmath Research Center has developed a new technology that can measure water’s ability to amplify weak electromagnetic fields. When a glass of water is placed a few feet away from a person, the electromagnetic field produced by his heart can be detected in the water.

    Structured water has been shown to surround the DNA and assist in the production of the cellular protein lattices believed to be used in amplifying signals for cellular communication. Biophotons are the life energy source used in signal transduction of the DNA and cells."

    I'd also like to include some of the work of Albert-Fritz Popp. His initial work on biophotons fits in nicely. I'll post that a bit later.

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    "According to Iona Miller and Richard Miller, authors of an article published in Nexus based partly on Gariaev's findings entitled "From Helix to Hologram," "Life is fundamentally electromagnetic rather than chemical, the DNA blueprint functioning as a biohologram which serves as a guiding matrix for organising physical form." The far-reaching implication is that DNA can be activated through conscious linguistic expression (much like an antenna) to modify the human bioenergy fields, which in turn (like orbiting communication satellites) can transmit radio and light waves to modify the physical structure and functioning of the human body."
    (quoted from Marins post)




    Hi, im wondering if prayer is included as "conscious liguistic expression" causing the transfer of radio and light waves necessary for healing.
    And then further, why does prayer only sometimes heal...
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    And blood is composed of more than 90 percent water.

    The emotional body is a represented by water because it behaves like water. Overly emotional displays result in watering eyes when one cries or is in a rage, or laughing hard.

    Then we have blood that is basically water, flesh, plasma,minerals and metals that could be responsive/ reactive by electromagnetic influences.

    So the blood connection besides its DNA content pops up again. So if the feeder parasites like psychic vampires enjoy distraught emotional energy that can be harvested from the emotional body when its triggered, the normal garden variety of vampire would be able to have this emo-harvest by the letting of blood . Or what memories are contained in the water, any thought recall has an emotional attached to it.

    Funny how vampire novelists often write about how vampires often enjoy the memories and experience of the people they feed from.

    Also puts the movie 'the Highlander' in a whole new light. Personally I think that is what the worlds struggles have amounted to, a sort of Highlander struggle between competing bloodlines but not in a 'good' guy way.

    Releasing blood en mass like events of 9/11 would put a pretty deep depth charge, a ripple through the fields in the emotional body and then you have a release of lots of gallons of blood.

    Because the emotional body has been and always represented by water what if the greater content of our emotions are there on a physical level in some fashion. I doubt its an accident that people refer to people as cold blooded (lacking emotion) and hot blooded (too much emotion) .

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    "The problem gets complicated when a sentient being occupies an organism (if you never read the Dianetics book, cover-to-cover I would encourage you to do so) because, then the debate "structure versus function" goes to "Function" as the dominant factor."

    I'm really sorry but there's nothing in Dianetics that relates to anything in this thread. Waste of time. Both structure and function are the effects of causes. From hundreds of hours of experience. Believe me, I wish this were not true. I wish the world was cleared, but it's not. It's probably way worse than it was the day Dianetics was published. Not relevant. Charging at windmills. IMHO.

    A totally fascinating thread Vivek. And likewise in regards to all the threads it's connected to. I'm a little dazzled, because this thread and related threads connect many dots that emerged in print, or became more accessible, (and since, on line) in the late 70's.

    Two kinds of humans? Oh yeah, you bet. Those ones that can appear normal? Real distractors, decades from your life. But then, at some later point, a couple trillion dots connect while you're washing dishes one day. Saves a little time....

    Thanks all above. Honored.

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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Now, consider morphogenetics alongside DNA acting as a transceiver and the nature of thought (being a myriad of unique, interacting interference patterns of light/EM spectrum).

    DNA could act as a receiver for a particular resonance unique to the planet and/or it is structurally subtle enough to pick up the underlying "spiritual field" described in earlier posts. It picks up the resonance/field and projects it into form. I picture this concept as being similar to shining a beam of light through a lens with a design etched on it -- this distorts the light into a different pattern or form based on the etch. Imagine the light projecting the pattern in three dimensions.
    Some great ideas are emerging here.

    Briefly, I wanted to re-visit this post and add one last piece: Biophotons. The possible link between the "nature of thought" and DNA: "An interface to the non-physical realms of mind, psyche and consciousness."

    Biophotons, or ultraweak photon emissions of biological systems, are weak electromagnetic waves in the optical range of the spectrum - in other words: light. All living cells of plants, animals and human beings emit biophotons which cannot be seen by the naked eye but can be measured by special equipment.

    This light emission is an expression of the functional state of the living organism and its measurement therefore can be used to assess this state. Cancer cells and healthy cells of the same type, for instance, can be discriminated by typical differences in biophoton emission.

    According to the biophoton theory developed on the base of these discoveries the biophoton light is stored in the cells of the organism - more precisely, in the DNA molecules of their nuclei - and a dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA may connect cell organelles, cells, tissues, and organs within the body and serve as the organism’s main communication network and as the principal regulating instance for all life processes.

    The processes of morphogenesis, growth, differentiation and regeneration are also explained by the structuring and regulating activity of the coherent biophoton field. The holographic biophoton field of the brain and the nervous system, and maybe even that of the whole organism, may also be basis of memory and other phenomena of consciousness, as postulated by neurophysiologist Karl Pribram and others.

    The consciousness-like coherence properties of the biophoton field are closely related to its base in the properties of the physical vacuum and indicate its possible role as an interface to the non-physical realms of mind, psyche and consciousness.

    The discovery of biophoton emission also lends scientific support to alternative and unconventional methods of healing based on concepts of homeostasis (self-regulation of the organism), such as various somatic therapies, homeopathy and acupuncture. The chi energy flowing in our bodies’ energy channels (meridians) which according to Traditional Chinese Medicine regulates our body functions, may be related to node lines of the organism’s biophoton field. The prana of Indian Yoga physiology may be a similar regulating energy force that has a basis in weak, coherent electromagnetic biofields."

    http://www.marcobischof.com/en/arbei...ophotonen.html

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    Something I just read the other day suggested that DNA could possibly be the holographic projectors.

    The DNA could be projecting a field that would be experienced by other DNA in the body. The DNA, in a sense, could be linked together.

    "We believe that the DNA is the projector of the biohologram, both at the cellular level and at the whole-organismic level. This means that the DNA creates a situation of a complex pattern of three-dimensional electromagnetic standing and moving wave fronts in the space that the organism occupies. We believe that these wave fronts interact with, interpenetrate with, and inter determine the physical substance that makes up the creature."

    The biohologram has characteristic properties of affecting the DNA that occupies its specific position within the biohologram. We believe that the nervous system constitutes a coordination mechanism that integrates DNA projections of the rest of the cells in the system. We believe it is first and foremost a coordination mechanism. And it aligns these cellular holograms and the linkage of the whole creature hologram."

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    What if ??

    Having read this interesting article ...

    http://https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54004-The-Third-Force-by-Preston-James-Ph.D

    ... a thought came into my mind, and I think that here is probably the most relevant place to float this particular idea, seeing as there has been a lot of talk about "archons". I have to meander a little before I get to the question, please excuse me ......

    There is no doubt in my mind that there is a hidden hand behind most of what goes on in our world, but I've come a long way from the idea of the "illuminati" or any other single organization being the string pullers. It's far more subtle than that. I also have little doubt that there are people involved in the shadow regime (call it what you will) who are to all intents and purposes evil. I'm equally certain that there are many people, probably the majority, to whom we can't really ascribe evilness. The more I've been around and experienced life in its' many aspects, and the more I've immersed myself in other people's cultures, the more certain I am that ALL of us are participants in the game, we all have something, however little, invested in the status quo. We unwittingly build our own prisons and seem hell bent on self-destructiuon. Despite having apparent free will, we continue to act unconsciously. From the above article and other evidence, it's also pretty clear that this is nothing new, the game is a transgenerational one. How does this work ?

    I'm in the middle of reading a book titled "The Red Queen"

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Red-Quee.../dp/0140167722

    which is all about sexual reproduction and human nature, especially how we seem to be programmed to unconsciously propogate our genes.

    So, bearing all that in mind, and bearing in mind the discussion of archons in this thread, here's my question ....

    What if - there is a parasite operating within the human genome ? It is self-aware, it replicates underneath our consciousness, and it has an agenda. It could be "natural" and indigenous to planet Earth, it could be alien, it could be manufactured. I don't know, I'm simply putting the thought out for consideration.

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    Quote Posted by Marin (here)
    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Marin, this is an incredible post -- thank you. The correlations almost seem surreal.

    I will add the work of Luc Montagnier to this as it relates to the thread.

    What is Life? A Non-Particle View


    [There is overlapping dialogue around 9:30 to 11:00 minutes but it goes away.]

    Please, watch the video and read the information in Marin's post.

    This is getting good.

    In the proto-planetary womb of Gaia there would be a cocktail of commodities.
    For those that may not be familiar with Montagnier's work - here's a brief summary. I thought this might be helpful as it relates to some of the material already presented.

    http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.co...Montagnier.pdf

    "Luc Montagnier has brought together new evidence for a non-particle view of life. The emission of low-frequency electromagnetic waves from bacterial DNA sequences, and the ability of these waves to organize nucleotides (the raw material of DNA) into new bacterial DNA, by mediation of structures within water."

    And....
    http://www.pharmaworldmagazine.com/a...-duplicate-dna

    "Experiments carried out by French Nobelist Luc Montagnier may represent the beginning of a new scientific revolution: it would be possible, according to Montaigner’s results, to duplicate viral and bacterial DNA in the absence of the physical template of the DNA itself. Coding information would be transmitted by electromagnetic waves generating from water molecules."

    "....The next step in the experiment consisted in recording the em emissions coming from water on a physical support, such as a CD or a pendrive. This “em genetic code” file has then been used to irradiated a second vial containing sterile water. Montagnier’s group showed that if, after a proper time of incubation, primers and nucleotides are added to this second vial and PCR reaction is performed it is possible to isolate a DNA almost identical to the original one from which the “water template” was obtained. «Our hypothesis is that the DNA replicates on the basis of the em signals it has transmitted to water. It would thus possible to synthetise different types of DNA according to the specific em impulse transmitted». According to the new theory, nucleotides in water solution would be “ordered” by the em memory encoded by water in such a way to replicate the original DNA sequence.

    According to the quantistic fields theory, many properties of the matter would result from the sum of microscopic vortex, in a process called coherence. It is something similar to what happens in a biological tissue, such as epidermis, where cells are functionally linked and coordinated. «If, for some issue, tissue cells loose their coherence and coordination and acquire again all their degrees of freedom a tumor starts to grow.»

    In the case of DNA replication, the transmission of em signals by water would occur in the form of a vortex of coherence; its quite long timelife allows for the creation of an high energy coherent excitation, which is the responsible for the activation of water electrons in the receiving vial."

    The work has revolutionary implications for biology and our whole understanding of the universe.

    David Wilcock, in his recent book, The Source Field Investigations, highlighted Montagnier's recent work: "DNA may well be created by a quantum template that we can't even see or measure directly, but exists as a structure in the Source Field. Could this energetic structure gather photons, atoms, and molecules together - to spiral life as we know it into existence? The answers may very well be staring us in the face, as Montagnier just discovered - but most scientists don't want to go there."

    *********

    With regard to the video Vivek posted (What is life? A Non Partical View), here are a few of my favorite bits:

    Quote "The evidence is always on the biochemical.
    The question is: what else is it doing? Is it just a chemical signaler?
    Now we know: DNA is putting out light, receiving light, putting out low freq radio waves and receiving it."
    Quote "We've tried to reduce biology and even cognition to the laws of physics and chemistry.
    It has to be done the other way around.
    The higher domain defines the lower domain.
    The laws of physics and chemistry are incomplete."
    Quote "Gurwitsch and Popp reference biophotons....emission in the UV range
    Montagnier: speaks about emission in the radio range.
    Between them you've got the whole spectrum."
    ***
    Quote "The effect that Montagnier was studying was dependent on external EM activation/stimulation...something which could possibly be related to the Schumann resonance - the surface of the earth and the ionosphere. The ionosphere itself has an intimate connection with solar and cosmic radiation."

    "Montagnier points out a similar frequency range, as is produced in this kind of biospheric resonating cavity of the whole earth, is produced in higher organism like ourselves...in our central nervous system."

    "Like a kind of nested relationship. On the one hand, take some relationship that may exist with respect to a microbial organism in the biosphere as a whole. A sort of evolutionary process is able to encapsulate that in a higher organism."
    ***
    Quote "How would a pyhsicists define life?
    On one hand, particulate and corpuscular and on the other hand, wavelike and continuous.
    Every piece of matter having a more complex wavelike property: polyphonic.
    A Beethoven symphony...If only Beethoven went into physics. "
    Here's Icke - I have experienced all 4 of these "levels" of being (beyond pure particle physicality) - they are all in a strange way their own "world."

    When you get all 5 of these "worlds" "talking" with each other, things get quite interesting.

    Anyone still bored on this planet in this day and age?

    David Icke for this video
    https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=uci2PswSCJ8 - !

    the illusory nature of “physical” reality “Solidity is illusional”

    it operates on a

    One
    waveform level / a vibrational level

    Two
    on an electrical level

    Three
    on a digital level

    Four
    on a holographic level

    all manifesting in what appears to be this fifth level of experience - particle physicality
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    If consciousness over the long term, and over generations affects dna, then consciousness could create a parasite. People who go for god knows how long just in this life without addressing the 'issues' and need in their emotional bodies become parasitical in the short term. If mind overcomes matter (dna) then that is a very real probability that parasites can insert themselves into the genome via conciousness.

    Perhaps not the only way.


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    What if ??

    Having read this interesting article ...

    http://https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54004-The-Third-Force-by-Preston-James-Ph.D

    ... a thought came into my mind, and I think that here is probably the most relevant place to float this particular idea, seeing as there has been a lot of talk about "archons". I have to meander a little before I get to the question, please excuse me ......

    There is no doubt in my mind that there is a hidden hand behind most of what goes on in our world, but I've come a long way from the idea of the "illuminati" or any other single organization being the string pullers. It's far more subtle than that. I also have little doubt that there are people involved in the shadow regime (call it what you will) who are to all intents and purposes evil. I'm equally certain that there are many people, probably the majority, to whom we can't really ascribe evilness. The more I've been around and experienced life in its' many aspects, and the more I've immersed myself in other people's cultures, the more certain I am that ALL of us are participants in the game, we all have something, however little, invested in the status quo. We unwittingly build our own prisons and seem hell bent on self-destructiuon. Despite having apparent free will, we continue to act unconsciously. From the above article and other evidence, it's also pretty clear that this is nothing new, the game is a transgenerational one. How does this work ?

    I'm in the middle of reading a book titled "The Red Queen"

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Red-Quee.../dp/0140167722

    which is all about sexual reproduction and human nature, especially how we seem to be programmed to unconsciously propogate our genes.

    So, bearing all that in mind, and bearing in mind the discussion of archons in this thread, here's my question ....

    What if - there is a parasite operating within the human genome ? It is self-aware, it replicates underneath our consciousness, and it has an agenda. It could be "natural" and indigenous to planet Earth, it could be alien, it could be manufactured. I don't know, I'm simply putting the thought out for consideration.

    Thanks

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    Hello! I have finished moving, and I have been busy studying (the latter will be the case until June). I have little time to research this as much as I was, but I can still take a dip into the material with whatever free time I'll have.


    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    [B]What if ??I'm in the middle of reading a book titled "The Red Queen"

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Red-Quee.../dp/0140167722

    which is all about sexual reproduction and human nature, especially how we seem to be programmed to unconsciously propogate our genes.

    So, bearing all that in mind, and bearing in mind the discussion of archons in this thread, here's my question ....

    What if - there is a parasite operating within the human genome ? It is self-aware, it replicates underneath our consciousness, and it has an agenda. It could be "natural" and indigenous to planet Earth, it could be alien, it could be manufactured. I don't know, I'm simply putting the thought out for consideration.

    Thanks
    Mariposafe, thank you for your post. The suggestion you've put forth is definitely one of the ideas being considered (or at least one facet). Not only that, but it is likely that this is the case (again, at least one facet of it).

    "Astonishingly, only 1.5% of the genetic material in our cells codes for human life. Half of the rest is sometimes described as "junk DNA" with no known function, and the other half consist of genes introduced by viruses and other parasites." -Source


    Here are a few articles I'd like to add to the thread. While reading them, keep in mind the concepts and ideas that have been presented thus far.

    The following excerpts are from, Wired Science:
    People may not be quite the humans they think they are. Or so suggests new research showing that the human genome is part bornavirus.

    [...]

    In the new study, Japanese researchers found copies of the bornavirus N (for nucleoprotein) gene inserted in at least four separate locations in the human genome. Searches of other mammalian genomes also showed that the gene has hitched rides in a wide variety of species for millions of years.

    [...]

    Modern bornaviruses are known to infect nerve cells, but the new study shows that the viruses are capable of infecting and inserting genes into many other types of cells. For the inserted virus sequences to pass to the next generation, the ancient infection must have happened in tissues that give rise to eggs or sperm. Scientists call these tissues the germ line.

    “The fact that these viruses were able to get into the germ line, which requires many chance events, implies that they may insert at some appreciable frequency,” Gifford says.

    Feschotte agrees. “That, to me, is a revelation,” he says.

    He speculates that bornavirus could be another source of human mutations, especially in neurons. Some studies have linked infection with the virus to psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia. Feschotte thinks modern bornaviruses may worm their way into human DNA in the neurons, creating mutations in genes that could lead to schizophrenia.

    Tomonaga says the schizophrenia link is “not likely.” Because bornavirus genes insert randomly in the genome, “it is not conceivable that mutations [caused] by the integration lead to the specific brain disorders, such as schizophrenia,” he says.

    Source: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...-in-human-dna/
    From the New York Times Online:
    The borna virus is at once obscure and grotesque. It can infect mammals and birds, but scientists know little about its effects on its victims. In some species it seems to be harmless, but it can drive horses into wild fits. The horses sometimes kill themselves by smashing in their skulls. In other cases, they starve themselves to death. Some scientists have even claimed that borna viruses alter human behavior, playing a role in schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, although others say there is no solid evidence of a link.

    The virus now turns out to have an intimate bond with every person on Earth.

    [...]

    Retroviruses carry their genetic material in a single-stranded version of DNA, called RNA. To make new viruses, they make DNA versions of their genes, which are inserted into a host cell’s genome. The cell then reads the retrovirus’s genes as if they were its own, and manufactures new retroviruses.

    Scientists speculated that every now and then a retrovirus inserted itself into a host cell and then failed to turn it into a virus factory. If the trapped retrovirus happened to be in sperm or egg cells, its DNA might be passed down to the host’s descendants. From generation to generation, the virus’s DNA would mutate. It would lose its ability to produce normal viruses. For a while it might be able to make new viruses that could re-infect the same cell, but over enough time, the viruses would become disabled.

    [...]

    Fossil viruses are also illuminating human evolution. Scientists estimate that 8.3 percent of the human genome can be traced back to retrovirus infections. To put that in perspective, that’s seven times more DNA than is found in all the 20,000 protein-coding genes in the human genome.

    But that figure may be too low, according to Dr. Katzourakis. “The measurable diversity of viruses may go up, and the true diversity may be much higher,” he said.

    For one thing, some viruses may be too well hidden for scientists to see. The discovery of borna viruses in the human genome is another reason to wonder if we’re actually more viral than we know. All fossil viruses discovered until now have been retroviruses, but borna viruses are not.

    Unlike retroviruses, borna viruses do not insert themselves into host genomes. Instead, they take up residence inside the nucleus, the chamber that holds our DNA. There, they manipulate the cell’s proteins to make new copies of themselves.

    [...]

    Two of the four copies of the borna virus gene carry crippling mutations. It’s impossible for our cells to make proteins from them. But the other two genes look remarkably intact, perhaps suggesting that our bodies use them for our own benefit. Exactly what they do isn’t clear though.

    Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/sc...anted=all&_r=0
    Here's a PDF illustrating viral mediated gene delivery --->



    Here are a few relevant excerpts from an article out of Scientific American entitled, Are Viruses Alive?:
    It is easy to see why viruses have been difficult to pigeonhole. They seem to vary with each lens applied to examine them. The initial interest in viruses stemmed from their association with diseases — the word “virus” has its roots in the Latin term for “poison.”

    [...]

    Further research by Stanley and others established that a virus consists of nucleic acids (DNA or RNA) enclosed in a protein coat that may also shelter viral proteins involved in infection. By that description, a virus seems more like a chemistry set than an organism. But when a virus enters a cell (called a host after infection), it is far from inactive. It sheds its coat, bares its genes and induces the cell’s own replication machinery to reproduce the intruder’s DNA or RNA and manufacture more viral protein based on the instructions in the viral nucleic acid. The newly created viral bits assemble and, voilà, more virus arises, which also may infect other cells.

    These behaviors are what led many to think of viruses as existing at the border between chemistry and life. More poetically, virologists Marc H. V. van Regenmortel of the University of Strasbourg in France and Brian W. J. Mahy of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have recently said that with their dependence on host cells, viruses lead “a kind of borrowed life.”

    [...]

    Viruses, however, parasitize essentially all biomolecular aspects of life. That is, they depend on the host cell for the raw materials and energy necessary for nucleic acid synthesis, protein synthesis, processing and transport, and all other biochemical activities that allow the virus to multiply and spread. One might then conclude that even though these processes come under viral direction, viruses are simply nonliving parasites of living metabolic systems.

    [...]

    They also look on viruses as coming from host genes that somehow escaped the host and acquired a protein coat. In this view, viruses are fugitive host genes that have degenerated into parasites.

    [...]

    Furthermore, a virus genome (the entire complement of DNA or RNA) can permanently colonize its host, adding viral genes to host lineages and ultimately becoming a critical part of the host species’ genome.

    Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ses-alive-2004
    It's almost astonishing how many buzzwords there are in these articles that tie in heavily with certain aspects of this thread (bloodlines, two different races of humans, the archons, etc).

    Plus, the articles haven't considered the morphogenetic field of a virus and it's possible implications with the hosts own field and any subconscious, subtle effects of those two interacting systems.

    I know this post is more of a "data dump" without much correlative commentary -- but I am crunched for time! So, Mariposafe, the concept you mentioned in your post is not only conceivable, it is a possible reality -- heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's likely!

    Of course, I am only speculating though.

    See also: Hologenome Theory
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    Quote Posted by Marin (here)
    Just a few more thoughts with regard to my earlier post (#44). The material below was taken from an earlier thread of mine (about a year and a half ago). Perhaps the timing is right... this time around.

    Leonard Horowitz revealed that the primary function of DNA is not in protein synthesis but bioacoustic and bioelectric signaling (electromagnetic energy reception and transmission). They determined that 90% of DNA functions of its structured water protein crystal lattice complex works as an antenna to receive sounds and to translate this sound into light/bioelectric signaling throughout the body. The ordered molecules of the clustered water increase its electrical signaling capabilities. Biochemist Steve Chemiske says that the hexagonal shaped water clusters supporting the DNA helix, “vibrate resonate frequencies which help to restore homeostasis to cell structures in the body through signal transduction.

    According to Dr. Leonard Horowitz, the structure of more than 4,000 enzymes that regulate virtually every bodily function largely depends upon these hexagonal shaped water clusters’ communication to the enzymes through an intracellular “nano-structured” filament-like protein lattice. DNA molecules are generators of radio frequency signals, RNA molecules are amplifiers, enzymes and amino acids are effectors of the signal, and the cell walls are believed to be noise filters.

    Guenter Albrecht-Buehler, Ph.D. spent over 30 years in determining that cells have intelligence and respond to specific data signals. The avenue opened up here in this field is one of cellular communication for intelligent healing, for it is the cells that determine how we are healed."

    In studies done by Jingong Pan, Kang-Nian Zhu and Zhi Y. Wang at the Center for Bio-Signaling and Systems Research Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology in trying to find a relationship between water clusters and the Meridian system as defined by Acupuncture, several things were determined. Even though modern science can measure these Meridians using a Superconducting Quantum Interference Device (SQUID), the signals are more subtle than the cellular transduction signals so it is not known yet how the signals from the Meridian system interface with our biophysical body (bioenergetically). However, significant results emerged testing water clusters.

    Heartmath Research Center has developed a new technology that can measure water’s ability to amplify weak electromagnetic fields. When a glass of water is placed a few feet away from a person, the electromagnetic field produced by his heart can be detected in the water.

    Structured water has been shown to surround the DNA and assist in the production of the cellular protein lattices believed to be used in amplifying signals for cellular communication. Biophotons are the life energy source used in signal transduction of the DNA and cells."

    I'd also like to include some of the work of Albert-Fritz Popp. His initial work on biophotons fits in nicely. I'll post that a bit later.
    This is excellent. I have read some of this before but it was not as clear to me. I have to get back to this. thank you for posting it.
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    Hello! I have finished moving, and I have been busy studying (the latter will be the case until June). I have little time to research this as much as I was, but I can still take a dip into the material with whatever free time I'll have. .......

    I know this post is more of a "data dump" without much correlative commentary -- but I am crunched for time! So, Mariposafe, the concept you mentioned in your post is not only conceivable, it is a possible reality -- heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's likely!

    Of course, I am only speculating though.
    Thanks for all this information Vivek, it's intriguing.

    As I continue reading the book mentioned in my prior post, I can't help but notice the increased use of language which implies knowledge, consciousness and forward thinking on the part of our genes ! Of course, it could just be a rhetorical device for presenting theories in a way we understand, or not. The astounding amount of information we are now learning about the genetic level of life, including the info you posted Vivek, seems to me to be way beyond what's feasible with random mutation. I may be wrong, but I reserve the right to err if it means I can think creatively !

    9E9 also raised an interesting point, though I tend more toward the idea that any genetic intrusion has a physical cause. But can we, either individually or collectively, alter our DNA conscioulsy ? I know it's talked about, but is there any real evidence rather than just wishful thinking ?

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    If consciousness over the long term, and over generations affects dna, then consciousness could create a parasite. People who go for god knows how long just in this life without addressing the 'issues' and need in their emotional bodies become parasitical in the short term. If mind overcomes matter (dna) then that is a very real probability that parasites can insert themselves into the genome via conciousness.

    Perhaps not the only way.
    Update: I made a few changes here to this post.

    Agreed. Completely. Consciousness can affect DNA. Consciousness could also create parasites. Therefore, parasites could insert themselves into the genome via consciousness. My best guess, there's a whole lot of other scenarios we could include as well.

    As a researcher (in molecular biology/genetics), I've followed some of the science - primarily because it's something I'm familiar with. It helped me bridge the gap between the known and the unknown. Intuitively speaking, I don't think we'll find all the answers in the "measurable" known. I don't think any of us do. We need to move beyond the 4% of our understanding and into the 96% before we truly understand how all of this operates.

    That's the interesting bit.


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    9E9 also raised an interesting point, though I tend more toward the idea that any genetic intrusion has a physical cause. But can we, either individually or collectively, alter our DNA conscioulsy ? I know it's talked about, but is there any real evidence rather than just wishful thinking ?
    To answer your question Mariposafe - from my perspective - I'd say yes. I do believe we can alter our DNA consciously.

    Why? Because, from my perspective, EVERYTHING is consciousness. Consciousness created this "reality." We created this "reality." Individually and collectively. And we can change it.

    Intuitive speaking, I "feel" we operate at this level because we're still operating in the mindset of separation. It's part of the illusion. Part of the game - that is - until we realize it's a game and move beyond the ego. RE-connecting with our own knowing.
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    Greetings all, I also have similar limitations as Vivek does for the same reason but I've taken today to catch up on a couple of threads. Here are some interesting correlations:

    Flu comes from outer space, claim scientists

    Quote It made the festive season a misery for many and threw NHS policy into crisis. But the flu may have worse in store, according to scientists who claim to have discovered an alarming explanation for the epidemic - a virus from outer space.

    Dismissing as dogma the conventional medical wisdom that flu is a virus passed by human contact, the distinguished astrophysicist Sir Fred Hoyle, and his colleague at Cardiff university, Chandra Wickramasinghe, warn that we may be on the brink of a global epidemic.

    In a report to be published in the journal Current Science, they claim the outbreak was caused by dust deposited high in the atmosphere by passing comets being forced down to earth by energy generated by cooler patches on the sun's surface, known as sunspots.

    They reach the peak of their activity, the maxima, every 11 years, coinciding, the scientists say, with all major flu outbreaks since 1761, including the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic blamed for 20m deaths worldwide. The latest cycle began to peak in September and the maxima is due sometime this year.
    Further ...

    Is SARS from outer space?

    Quote The SARS virus might have originated in outer space, according to a scientist in Britain.

    In a letter to The Lancet medical journal, professor Chandra Wickramasinghe of Cardiff University suggests the virus was introduced to Earth on a comet or meteorite.

    Comets are known to contain many organic chemicals as well as water.

    But international scientists are still undecided about research from 1996 purporting to show ancient bacterial forms in a meteorite from Mars.

    The professor and his team estimate a tonne of bacterial material falls to Earth from space each day.

    To support his theory, the professor highlights the unique nature and sudden appearance of SARS in China.

    He points to other mysterious modern epidemics like the Plague of Athens and the influenza pandemic of 1917-19 as also originating from the skies.

    If the claim is true, travel alerts in China and Canada at the height of the SARS epidemic might not have been enough to stop the virus spreading.

    Indeed, the professor warns it could still be circulating in the atmosphere, set to fall anywhere on Earth without warning.

    "We should remain vigilant for the appearance of new foci (unconnected with infective contacts or with China) almost anywhere on the planet.

    "New cases might continue to appear until the stratospheric supply of the caustic agent becomes exhausted," he said.

    However, Professor Wickramasinghe admits there is no hard evidence for his theory, which has been ridiculed by some of his contemporaries.

    "I think it is completely nuts," Dr. Anne Bridgen, a molecular virologist at the University of Ulster, told Reuters news agency.

    "It has a lipid (fatty) coat on the outside and it would tend to dry out in an atmosphere such as space."

    Professor Ian Jones, an expert in virology at the University of Reading in southern England, described the idea as bizarre.

    And a spokesman for the World Health Organization told CNN though theoretically possible, there was no evidence to support such a claim.

    "I find it hard to believe that it came from outer space. We won't be sending a WHO team to investigate."

    Meanwhile, researchers in Hong Kong say they might have traced the SARS to civet cats, a delicacy eaten by some Chinese.

    The claim came after a month-long investigation by Hong Kong and Chinese scientists tracking the source of the disease.
    And on a related note ...

    Scientists discover possible microbe from space

    Quote An international team of scientists has recovered microorganisms in the upper reaches of the atmosphere that could have originated from outer space, a participant in the study said Friday.

    The living bacteria, plucked from an altitude of 10 miles (16 km) or higher by a scientific balloon, could have been deposited in terrestrial airspace by a passing comet, according to the researchers.

    The microorganisms are unlike any known on Earth, but the astrobiologists "want to keep the details under wraps until they are absolutely convinced that these are extraterrestrial," said study participant Chandra Wickramasinghe, a noted scientist at Cardiff University in Wales.

    NASA's Ames Research Center posted a cautious reaction to the report on its Astrobiology Web site. NASA said the finding is likely to meet considerable skepticism in the scientific community.

    "Aerobiologists might argue that 10 miles is not too high for Earth life to reside, a possibility that Wickramasinghe appears to accept," the statement said.

    However, NASA said, a compelling case can be made for the transport of microorganisms through space aboard comets and meteors.

    "A recent discovery indicates that microbes can remain dormant for millions of years -- enough time to travel from planet to planet," NASA said.

    Disputing critics who suggest that the balloon was contaminated on the ground, Wickramasinghe said the experiment took place with strict controls. He does acknowledge the possibility that terrestrial bacteria could be kicked up into the stratosphere. Living fungal spores have been discovered at altitudes of 7 miles (11 km).

    But observations from this and a related study suggest the presence of living bacteria far too high in the atmosphere to have originated from the surface of the planet, according to Wickramasinghe.

    "What is present in the upper atmosphere, critics will say it came from the ground. That is a serious possibility at 15 kilometers, but at 40 or 85 kilometers, you can forget about it," he said Friday.

    Wickramasinghe and colleague Sir Fred Hoyle published a report on the Web Friday about evidence that they say strengthens the hypothesis that unusual microbes float through the upper reaches of the atmosphere.
    All of the above posted in support of previous postings by Vivek and others in regards to this quote from Lash's Metahistory site:

    Quote The Nag Hammadi material contains reports of visionary experiences of the initiates, including first-hand encounters with inorganic beings called Archons. Gnostic teaching explains that these entities arose in the early stage of formation of the solar system, before the Earth was formed. Archons inhabit the solar system, the extraterrestrial realm as such, but they can intrude on Earth. Interestingly, this Gnostic insight accords closely with the view of Jacques Vallee, who maintains that ET/cyborgs probably belong to the local planetary realm. Vallee also proposes that the ET/UFO enigma is a “spiritual control system,” a phenomenon that “behaves like a conditioning process.” (Messengers of Deception). This is exactly what Gnostics said about the Archons: they can affect our minds by subliminal conditioning techniques. Their main tactics are mental error (intellectual virus, or false ideology, especially religious doctrines) and simulation. Archons are predatory, unlike a wide range of non-human and other-dimensional beings also know to the Gnostics, beings who are benevolent or neutral toward humanity.
    1. Viruses are questionably inorganic, as scientists believe that they are on the border between organic and inorganic.

    2. Viruses are within the very structure of our dna, replicating there over millenia, passed down from family to family to the extent that there are known and potentially hidden viruses within every person on earth that science has not yet discovered.

    3. Viruses display an organizational sense and engage in directed activity focused upon survival and propagation.

    4. Viruses can evolve to inhabit different types of life.

    With these few statements in mind, consider the prevalence of virus-born horror and sci-fi movies these days. The "Zombie-Apocalypse". All of these generally begin with a virus that spreads to infect all humans who then crave blood, meat, brains, etc. As we arrive at a more mainstream knowledge that we as humans are compromised by something within us that is not actually "of" us, perhaps these movies are indicative of this "Invasion of the Body-Snatchers".

    1. The Archons are inorganic.

    2. The Archons are a collective hive consciousness formation.

    3. The Archons have no will/initiative.

    4. The Archons are reptilian-mind based, focused upon the lower-chakra energetic nodes, feeding off of the energy therein.

    5. The Archons communicate through discursiveness, low-minded mental stimuli that cause corresponding emotional eruptions that feed them.

    6. The Archons must flee a body once the mind has been mastered and their mutterings are no longer paid any heed.

    Also related to previously-quoted science, there is the idea of bio luminescence and the body. From Marin in post #65:

    Quote Biophotons, or ultraweak photon emissions of biological systems, are weak electromagnetic waves in the optical range of the spectrum - in other words: light. All living cells of plants, animals and human beings emit biophotons which cannot be seen by the naked eye but can be measured by special equipment.
    From Casteneda/Don Juan:

    Quote The flyers of the sorcerers' tradition are black shadows that we sometimes detect and explain away as floaters in the retina. Sorcerers know for a fact, by means of their capacity to see energy directly, that those shadows are predatorial and that they keep us alive in order to devour our awareness. Sorcerers say that our awareness is like a sheen around our total field of energy that looks to them like a luminous ball. To them, this sheen of awareness is like a plastic cover that would make the luminous ball shine even more if it were not for the fact that it has been eaten away down to the level of our heels.

    Here is where the sorcerers description gets very disturbing to us; sorcerers say that the only sheen of awareness left in us by our eaters is the awareness of self-reflection. Therefore, all we are left with is the concern with me, myself and I. In our personal lives we have corroborated that the only force left in the immediate world around us is the force of self-importance, which comes disguised in the form of humility, compassion, altruism, kindness, you name it.

    This sorcerer's description is of course our ultimate nemesis; we don't want to believe that we are being raised for food. In this sense, naturally, the sorcerers' tradition is at total variance with any other kind of spiritual tradition. Sorcerers say, and believe me, not out of cynicism, that every ideal we deal with in terms of spiritual traditions, religions, etc, is a device concocted by the flyers to keep us in a lull. Imagine our disquietude upon examining, weighing and pondering this proposition.

    through recapitulating we can acquire a hard discipline which is the only means by which we can make ourselves unpalatable to the flyers. Sorcerers assert that the only awareness which cannot be eaten is the awareness produced by iron-handed discipline. The recapitulation seems to create a condition of fluidity and determination which is the discipline that sorcerers talk about, not the discipline of compulsive, routinary behavior.
    Which is the gist of the sorcerer's way, which is also, not coincidentally, the path of enlightenment as put forth by mystical traditions time and the world across.

    The science seems clear. There is also the potentiality, as noted by Marin, Flash and Mariposafe, consciousness is the key aspect of intersection, where the line blurs between disparate consciousnesses and where we become confused as to what is our mind and what is not. If, as it seems, the Archons gave us their minds and their physical manifestation is through the modality of virus infection - which happened many thousands or perhaps even millions of years ago - new research - per Mariposafe particularly - related to the Russian findings regarding DNA being able to be transformed through sound, i.e. chants, mantras, prayers, songs, etc., the potentiality to clear the DNA of the Archonic infection could certainly be one potential for individuals who utilizes such tools for personal evolution.

    The Gnostic insistence upon orgiastic practices, evoking an energetic orb surrounding the practitioners who were then said to become "invisible" to the Archons, their call-and-response banishment formula said to cause their flight, the Toltec and Enlightenment-oriented traditions seeking to still the mind, all seek, at heart, to shift the inner energetic balance in a way that transforms the DNA from within, affecting and transmuting the very cells of the body in a manner that results in the creation of a vessel that is "too pure" for Archon habitation.
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    Well I have had the flu three times in the last 12 months ... and twice in the last 2.5 ...
    It must be raining flu viruses hard from outer space ...
    Hooray, now I have alien DNA in my body and Alien's have my DNA ...

    I have heard a couple other theories that viruses may well come from our own DNA. and perhaps certain viruses are a part of our own evolution. This may be mentioned in this thread .. I have some catching up to do ...
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    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Hello! I have finished moving, and I have been busy studying (the latter will be the case until June). I have little time to research this as much as I was, but I can still take a dip into the material with whatever free time I'll have. .......

    I know this post is more of a "data dump" without much correlative commentary -- but I am crunched for time! So, Mariposafe, the concept you mentioned in your post is not only conceivable, it is a possible reality -- heck, I'd even go so far as to say it's likely!

    Of course, I am only speculating though.
    Thanks for all this information Vivek, it's intriguing.

    As I continue reading the book mentioned in my prior post, I can't help but notice the increased use of language which implies knowledge, consciousness and forward thinking on the part of our genes ! Of course, it could just be a rhetorical device for presenting theories in a way we understand, or not. The astounding amount of information we are now learning about the genetic level of life, including the info you posted Vivek, seems to me to be way beyond what's feasible with random mutation. I may be wrong, but I reserve the right to err if it means I can think creatively !

    9E9 also raised an interesting point, though I tend more toward the idea that any genetic intrusion has a physical cause. But can we, either individually or collectively, alter our DNA conscioulsy ? I know it's talked about, but is there any real evidence rather than just wishful thinking ?
    I am just going to say how easy it is to change gene expression based on environment. If you starve yourself, but eat just enough calories to live without issue, and even say keep your nutirients up, you genes will change expression. This means some genes will turn off and others will turn on. This has been proven. What is happening is your body is changing gears so to speak to be able to operate as normally as possible on the restricted caloric intake. This causes each cell in the body to become extremely efficient, and extends the life of those cells as long as they can operate efficiently. Since this research has come out there is a bit of "cult following" of caloric restricted diets to promote longevity. It works in animals to extend their lives -- rats and mice live on average 1.5 times longer in this changed gen expression mode, so far in humans there is limited data, but lots of guinea pigs are currently out there.

    Point being, if a simple environmental change can force gen expression change, I don't think it is a far cry that consciousness, or intent could also have some affect. In fact I do believe the mind disease in humans does create parasites. If that is so, then there is a flip side to all this ...
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    Somewhere along the way foreign DNA-like structures (from a local pseudo-conscious dust/plasma cloud) fell to the earth and became intermingled/inserted with/in the natural human's genetic code.

    [...]

    Again, from On the Origin of the World:
    And at that time, the prime parent then rendered an opinion concerning man to those who were with him. Then each of them cast his sperm into the midst of the navel of the earth. Since that day, the seven rulers have fashioned man with his body resembling their body, but his likeness resembling the man that had appeared to them. His modelling took place by parts, one at a time. And their leader fashioned the brain and the nervous system. Afterwards, he appeared as prior to him. He became a soul-endowed man. And he was called Adam, that is, "father", according to the name of the one that existed before him.
    Sounds like panspermia to me. It also says that they "fashioned the brain" and that makes me think of this picture (from my previous post) of the human, reptile-like brain stem compared to the "fractal visions" image and images from the Egyptian hieroglyphs:



    [...]

    Remember in the Gnostic scriptures ...

    From Wikipedia:
    One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. Sophia (Greek: Σοφια, lit. “wisdom”), the Demiurge’s mother a partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or “Fullness,” desired to create something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent. In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him to be within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality.

    The Demiurge, having received a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm: He frames the seven heavens, as well as all material and animal things, according to forms furnished by his mother; working however blindly, and ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all his energy. He is blind to all that is spiritual, but he is king over the other two provinces. The word dēmiourgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.

    Thus Sophia’s power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source.
    Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

    This is fascinating. Imagine the Demiurge being this "natural" form in space -- actual space.

    The Demiurge is wrapped in a cloud. Interesting term -- reminds me of an interstellar dust cloud or even the local "cloud" of plasma that surrounds the earth right now.

    Now, Sophia is Gaia and Her power to create lies within the resonance of the planet. Our own minds being a part of that creation, including this natural archetypal repository. A foreign energy, nearly inert in terms of consciousness (possibly pseudo-concsious as per the article about "alive" crystals and helices in space and EM fields somehow related to consciousness), leaks into our environment. At a subconscious level we identify it with a certain archetypal template. There it takes nest and broods. By the mechanisms of our own minds it develops and awakens to a perversely aware sense of being. Hijacking that source of creation doled out by Gaia/Sophia to Her homegrown humans. Now, Sophia has inadvertently created "something apart from the divine totality, without the receipt of divine assent."

    The abomination expropriated a part of Sophia/Gaia's creative power by engaging our minds like a parasitic symbiont.

    The Demiurge develops and "sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation" ... Memetics, morphological resonance, collective unconscious, fractals, holons -- the foreign installation grows and replicates itself. He is "blind to all that is spiritual" and the reflection of this outwardly is humanity's cancer-like growth on the planet. Neglecting our Mother Earth.

    He is "ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all of his energy."

    [...]

    The Gnostic texts describe archontic forces casting their seed into the navel of the earth. Seeds grow (or possibly fester in this case). This could be a psychological, archetypal metaphor (for an invasive, foreign energy) or it could be a metaphor pertaining to panspermia (see also: this link). The implications of either are equally intriguing.
    There are a few more interesting correlations to take note of regarding all of this and shamanism.

    Anthropologist Jeremy Narby noticed a connection between some commonalities in shamanic visions and DNA. Here are a few excerpts from a Q&A interview of Narby by Todd Stewart.
    Q: The structure of DNA as we know it is made up of letters and thus has a specific text and language. You could say our bodies are made up of language, yet we assume that speech arises from the mind. How do we access this hidden language?

    A: By studying it. There are several roads to knowledge, including science and shamanism.

    Q: The symbol of the Cosmic Serpent, the snake, is a central theme in your story, and in your research you discover that the snake forms a major part of the symbology across most of the world’s traditions and religions. Why is there such a consistent system of natural symbols in the world? Is the world inherently symbolic?

    A: This is the observation that led me to investigate the cosmic serpent. I found the symbol in shamanism all over the world. Why? That's a good question. My hypothesis is that it is connected to the double helix of DNA inside virtually all living beings. And DNA itself is a symbolic Saussurian code. So, yes, in at least one important way, the living world is inherently symbolic. We are made of living language.

    [...]

    Q: What are the correspondences between the Peruvian shamans’ findings and microbiology?

    A: Both shamans and molecular biologists agree that there is a hidden unity under the surface of life's diversity; both associate this unity with the double helix shape (or two entwined serpents, a twisted ladder, a spiral staircase, two vines wrapped around each other); both consider that one must deal with this level of reality in order to heal. One can fill a book with correspondences between shamanism and molecular biology.

    Source: http://deoxy.org/narbystew.htm
    Below are some excerpts from Dr. Narby's book, The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge.

    Some biologists describe DNA as an "ancient high biotechnology," containing "over a hundred trillion times as much information by volume as our most sophisticated information storage devices." Could one still speak of technology in these circumstances? Yes, because there is no other word to qualify this duplicable, information-storing molecule. DNA is only ten atoms wide and as such constitutes a sort of ultimate technology: It is organic and so miniturized that it approaches the limits of material existence.

    Shamans, meanwhile, claim that the vital principle that animates all living creatures comes from the cosmos and is minded.


    As ayahuasquero Pablo Amaringo says: "A plant may not talk, but there is a spirit in it that is conscious, that sees everything, which is the soul of the plant, its essence, what makes it alive." According to Amaringo these spirits are veritable beings, and humans are also filled with them: "Even the hair, the eyes, the ears are full of beings. You see all this when ayahuasca is strong."

    In their visions, shamans take their consciousness down to the molecular level and gain access to information related to DNA, which they call "animate essences" or "spirits." This is where they see double helixes, twisted ladders, and chromosome shapes. This is how shamanic cultures have known for millennia that the vital principle is the same for all living beings, and is shaped like two entwined serpents (or a vine, a rope, ladder...). DNA is the source of their astonishing botanical and medicinal knowledge, which can be attained only in defocalized and "nonrational" states of consciousness, though its results are empirically verifiable. The myths of these cultures are filled with biological imagery, and the shamans metaphoric explanations correspond quite precisely to the descriptions that biologists are starting to provide.

    [...]

    If one stretches out the DNA contained in the nucleus of a human cell, one obtains a two-yard long thread that is only ten atoms wide (and the two ribbons that make up this filament wrap around each other several hundred million times). This thread is a billion times longer than its own width. Relatively speaking, it is as if your little finger stretched from Paris to Los Angeles.

    A thread of DNA is much smaller than the visible light humans perceive. Even the most powerful optical microscopes can not reveal it, because DNA is approximately 120 times narrower than the smallest wavelength of visible light.

    The nucleus of a cell is equivalent in volume to 2-millionths of a pinhead. The two-yard thread of DNA packs into this minute volume by coiling up endlessly on itself, thereby reconciling extreme length and infinitesimal smallness, like mythical serpents.

    In the early 1980s, thanks to the development of a sophisticated measurement device, a team of scientists demonstrated that the cells of all living beings emit photons at a rate of up to approximately 100 units per second and per square centimeter of surface area. They also showed that DNA was the source of this photon emission.

    The wavelength at which DNA emits these photons corresponds exactly to the narrow band of visible light: "Its spectral distribution ranges at least from infrared (at about 900 nanometers) to ultraviolet (up to about 200 nanometers)"...DNA emits photons with such regularity that researchers compare the phenomenon to an "ultra-weak laser." (see History of Biophotonics)

    Inside the nucleus, DNA coils and uncoils, writhes and wriggles. Scientists often compare the form and movements of this long molecule to those of a snake.

    There...is the source of knowledge: DNA, living in water and emitting photons, like an aquatic dragon spitting fire.

    Source: http://www.world-mysteries.com/newgw/cosmicserpent.htm
    Now, at least 8% of the human genome isn't human at all. It comes from foreign, viral DNA that has found a home in our genome. The below links have more information.

    Ancient virus DNA thrives in us

    Hunting Fossil Viruses in Human DNA

    Fossil viruses are also illuminating human evolution. Scientists estimate that 8.3 percent of the human genome can be traced back to retrovirus infections. To put that in perspective, that’s seven times more DNA than is found in all the 20,000 protein-coding genes in the human genome.

    But that figure may be too low, according to Dr. Katzourakis. “The measurable diversity of viruses may go up, and the true diversity may be much higher,” he said.

    For one thing, some viruses may be too well hidden for scientists to see.
    I can't spend anymore time on this post. The idea is that there was natural, pure DNA. Somewhere along the way foreign, viral DNA invaded the genome.

    Castaneda describes inorganic beings -- some of them are helpful, some of them are nuisances, and then there are the predators.

    There is this idea of Maninkaris in shamanism which may be spirits living within DNA. This sounds like an incredible fantasy, but just look at Sheldrake's theories, biophotonics, and consciousness. It seems that our DNA is a multitudinous cluster of subtle hitchhikers. Some may be naturally warranted, while others (maybe most) invaded the genome a long time ago. We may find ourselves now entangled in a Red Queen hypothesis type scenario now where these parasitic "symbionts" smuggled there way into our lives and thereby we entangled destinies so to speak -- but we left the door unlocked. In this way we engaged or "permitted" this in the past (temptation, deceit) and continue to deny it presently (denial, reaction, ignorance).

    There is also an experience of Michael Harner's that is relevant here (Narby quotes him in his book). There are articles about all of this out there. Here's one well worth sifting through.

    http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/spi...and-predation/

    As you can see, I've tried to make this as scatterbrained as possible

    haha I will come back and clean this up later because it is actually an in depth topic in itself but very direct and very relevant. I have not done it justice here but I've been trying to get it out for the last week.

    Cool stuff.

    Peace
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    Creating a bridge between these two threads with this post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post635082

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    Excerpts from, http://www.cracked.com/article_19161...-your-dna.html

    Back in biology class, you were probably taught that DNA was a sensible, organized system. When they called it "the building blocks of life," you probably pictured DNA as a series of neatly edged Legos snapping together to form a cohesive whole. When in reality, DNA is more like an old scrapbook that someone has torn up, pasted back together, filled with old newspaper clippings about murder and then taken into the bathroom with them.

    A large part of this internal mess comes from the endogenous retrovirus. A normal virus works by moving into a host cell and using it to reproduce, but retroviruses reproduce by actually mixing their own genetic material with the DNA of the host cell they're invading. If a normal virus is a home invasion robber, busting down your door and smashing up your stuff, a retrovirus is the creature from Alien, impregnating you with its horrible seed and producing a twisted mockery of everything you once were, and then laughing as that atrocity murders all of your friends. Metaphorically speaking, of course.

    In the distant past, retroviruses picked up by our ancestors would occasionally find their way into the sex organs, and the newly virused-up DNA was passed along to their children. As a result of all this virus-laden boning, we modern humans have about 100,000 of these microscopic gate-crashers cluttering up our DNA. When you add in the assorted genetic trash they've left behind, more than 40 percent of human DNA is made up of ancient, sinister and almost certainly cursed viruses.

    [...]

    But these viruses can't do much harm today, right? Oh, how we love your unflinching optimism, rhetorical question, but you're wrong again: Tests on the cerebrospinal fluid of schizophrenic patients (that's science-talk for "the brain juice of crazies") have revealed unexpectedly high levels of a particular endogenous retrovirus. This suggests that the misunderstood mental illness is, in fact, a long-term side effect of a retrovirus that we all have inside us already. It's no good locking the doors, people; that crazy is calling from inside the house.

    [...]

    In people who are genetically inclined, this retrovirus can be "switched on" by a separate viral infection that occurs around the time of birth -- herpes, toxoplasmosis (aka Cat Zombie Disease) or even plain old influenza. Studies have found that babies born in winter months -- around flu season -- are at greater risk of developing not just schizophrenia, but bipolar disorder and multiple sclerosis later in life, suggesting that all three conditions might just be different reactions to the same retrovirus. Basically, if you catch a cold as a baby, you could end up building bombs in a shack to combat the lizard people who've infiltrated our government, and it's all thanks to the insanity that lives in everybody's blood.

    [...]

    A group of scientists have been reconstructing the Neanderthal genome from fossilized bones recently, and when they compared their results with genomes of various humans from around the world, they discovered that most modern humans in Europe and Asia share between 1 and 4 percent of their genome with Neanderthals -- a trait that is not found among people from sub-Saharan Africa. In other words, if you're reading this and you have any European or Asian ancestors at all, you're technically not fully human.

    [...]

    In fact, considering how long humans have had to mix with each other since then, the original human-Neanderthal genetic crossover might have been as much as 10 or even 20 percent. Neanderthals weren't the only interspecies bonees, either: In 2010, researchers discovered another species, the Denisovans, and to the surprise of nobody, we apparently stuck it in them, too.

    Scientists think that about 10,000 years after the Neanderthal mixing took place, a group of humans came across the Denisovans in South Asia and thought, "Hey, any port in a storm." A few cooed grunts, sexy sax solos and millennia later, and presto! What parts of you aren't undead or a virus are probably subhuman.

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    Excerpts from, Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors: A Search For Who We Are by Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan

    If the information in the DNA has come to be through the patient evolutionary process, why is a god needed to explain the injection of data, genes, or souls in the first place?

    So could souls have provided consciousness back then? A deity responsible on a case — by — case basis for precision injection of souls into this immense host of tiny creatures over the full range of geological time would be a very fussy as well as a very inefficient creator. Why not design it right from the beginning, and let life run by itself? Would the god responsible for the subtle, elegant, and universally applicable laws of physics do such slapdash, error ridden, journeyman work in biology — requiring hands-on attention to every pathetic little microbe when they already know perfectly well how to reproduce themselves and vast stores of information? Instead, all the god has to do is to encode directly into the DNA of a few ancestors whatever information souls are required to know. Souls and consciousness could then pass, on their own, from generation to generation, freeing the god for other matters, perhaps some of greater urgency. But if the information in the DNA has come to be through the patient evolutionary process, why is a god needed to explain the injection of data, genes, or souls in the first place?

    [...]

    Does the DNA of humans, chimps, orangutans, dolphins, and elephants provide the instructions for these species to become conscious and self-aware?

    Yes. The mirror self recognition tests provide us with the compelling evidence we need to believe this is true for all of these species. It is clear the ability to distinguish one's self from others has evolved independently in primates, dolphins, elephants and their DNA encoded cells.

    Source: http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/1057

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    Excerpts from, The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and The Origins of Knowledge by Jeremy Narby

    According to Weiss, the Ashaninca believe in the existence of invisible spirits called maninkari. literally "those who are hidden," who can nonetheless be seen by ingesting tobacco and avahuasca. They are also called ashaninka. "our fellows." as they are considered to be ancestors with whom one has kinship.

    [...]

    I tried reconsidering the question from a "shamanic" point of view. It was as if these beings inside us wanted to hide.... But that's what the Ashaninca say! They call the invisible beings who created life the "maninkari," literally "those who are hidden"!

    [...]

    Later that afternoon, I returned to my office and started rereading the passages concerning the maninkari in Gerald Weiss s exhaustive study on Ashaninca cosmology. According to Weiss, the Ashaninca believe that the most powerful of all maninkari is the "Great Transformer" Avireri, who created life on earth, starting with the seasons and then moving on to the entirety of living beings. Accompanied sometimes by his sister, at others by his nephew, Avireri is one of the divine trickster twins who create by transformation and are so common in mythology.

    It was in reading the last story about the end of Avireri s trajectory that I had a shock. Having completed his creation work, Avfreri goes to a party where he gets drunk on manioc beer. His sister, who is also a trickster, invites him to dance and pushes him into a hole dug in advance. She then pretends to pull him up by throwing him a thread, then a cord—but neither is strong enough. Furious with his sister, whom he transforms into a tree, Avfreri decides to escape by digging a hole into die underworld. He ends up at a place called Rivers End, where a strangler vine wraps around him. From there, he continues to sustain to this day his numerous children on earth.

    How could I have missed the connections between the twin being Avfreri, the Great Transformer, and the DNA double helix, first creating the breathable atmosphere ("the seasons"), then the entirety of living beings by transformation, living in the microscopic world ("underworld"), in cells filled with seawater ("Rivers End"), taking the form of a thread, a cord, or a strangler vine which wraps around itself, and, finally, sustaining to this day all the living species of the planet?

    For weeks I had been finding connections between myths and molecular biology. I was not even surprised to see that the creation myth of an indigenous Amazonian people coincided with the description made by todays biologists of the development of life on earth. What shook me, and even filled me with consternation, was that I had had this evidence under my nose for years without giving it the slightest importance. My gaze had been too narrow.

    Sitting in my office, I remembered the time Carlos Perez Shuma had told me, 'The maninkari taught us how to spin and weave cotton." Now the meaning seemed obvious; the two ribbons of the DNA double helix wrap around each other 600 million times inside each human cell: "Who else could have taught us to weave?" The problem for me was that I had not believed him. I had not considered for one moment that his words corresponded to something real.

    [...]

    I was now of the opinion that DNA was at the origin of shamanic knowledge. By "shamanism," I understood a series of defocalization techniques: controlled dreams, prolonged fasting, isolation in wilderness, ingestion of hallucinogenic plants, hypnosis based on a repetitive drumbeat, near-death experience, or a combination of the above. Aboriginal shamans of Australia reach conclusions similar to those of Amazonian ayahuasqueros, without the use of psychoactive plants, by working mainly with their dreams. What techniques did Chuang-Tzu, the Egyptian pharaohs, and die animists of Benin use, to name but a few? Who could say? But they all spoke, in one form or another, of a cosmic serpent— as did the Australians, the Amazonians, and the Aztecs.

    By using these different techniques, it therefore seemed possible to induce neurological changes that allow one to pick up information from DNA. But from which DNA? At first 1 thought that I had found the answer when I learned that, in each human cell, there is the equivalent of "the information contained in one thousand five hundred encyclopedia volumes"6—in other words, the equivalent of a bookcase about ten yards long and two yards high. There, I thought, is the origin of knowledge.

    [...]

    I knew of no neurological mechanism on which to base this working hypothesis, but I did know that DNA was an aperiodic crystal that traps and transports electrons with efficiency and that emits photons (in other words, electromagnetic waves) at ultra-weak levels currently at the limits of measurement—and all this more than any other living matter. This led me to a potential candidate for the transmissions: the global network of DNA-based life.

    All living beings contain DNA, be they bacteria, carrots, or humans. DNA, as a substance, does not vary from one species to another; only the order of its letters changes. This is why biotechnology is possible. For instance, one can extract the DNA sequence in the human genome containing the instructions to build the insulin protein and splice It into the DNA of a bacterium, which will then produce insulin similar to that normally excreted by the human pancreas. The cellular machines called ribosomes, which assemble the proteins inside the bacterium, understand the same four-letter language as the ribosomes inside human pancreatic cells and use the same 20 amino acids as building blocks. Biotechnology proves by its very existence the fundamental unity of life.

    Each living being is constructed on the basis of the instructions written in the informational substance that is DNA. A single bacterium contains approximately ten million units of genetic information, whereas a microscopic fungus contains a billion units. In a mere handful of soil, there are approximately ten billion bacteria and one million fungi. This means that there is more order, and information, in a handful of earth than there is on the surfaces of all the other known planets combined. The information contained in DNA makes the difference between life and inert matter.

    The earth is surrounded by a layer of DNA-based life that made the atmosphere breathable and created the ozone layer, which protects our genetic matter against ultraviolet and mutagenic rays. There are even anaerobic bacteria living half a mile beneath the ocean floor; the planet is wired with life deep into its crust.
    When we walk in a field, DNA and the cell-based life it codes for are everywhere: inside our own bodies, but also in the puddles, the mud, the cow pies, the grass on which we walk, the air we breathe, the birds, the trees, and everything that lives.

    This global network of DNA-based life, this biosphere, encircles the entire earth. [Vivek: It is now known that micro-crystals can and will spontaneously form DNA-like helices in plasma and reproduce. The earth is surrounded by a plasma cloud, there are also theories that there is a plasmic body at the inner core of the earth].

    Source: http://root.ps/download/tecnomagxs/N...ic_serpent.pdf

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    I've shied away from channeled material, even just reading it for entertainment purposes. I and others have stated plenty of reasons to be wary of such material.

    Recently though, while doing some research, I was directed to the work of Barbara Marciniak. I've read her stuff on wanderers and the moon before, but not much else in depth. I was blown away when I started digging into it. I don't know about 12 stranded DNA and all that, but I do know something about the other things she speaks about based on my own research and creative analysis. Actually, there are some other people who have come up with similar stories, but you can only find them in science fiction (or some similar themes of David Icke).

    Based on this thread and "The Technological Revolution" thread, I'm going to post some interesting channeled material from Barbara's work.

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    Excerpts from, Bringers of the Dawn

    Our ancestors were some of the Original Planners of Earth, orchestrators who seeded worlds and civilizations with creativity and love. Because of their qualifications, they liked to orchestrattworlds just as conductors love to conduct. Our ancestors are also your ancestors, and we like to call you our ancient fatnilv, as indeed you are. Our ancestors gave their DNA to the Original Planners, and this DNA became part of the DNA of the human species.

    [...]

    The project of the Living Library on Earth was eventually fought over. It looked enticing enough to be mined by some. During Earth's early history, there were wars in space for ownership of this planet. Have you ever wondered who owns Earth? It's a prime hunk of real estate. Do you think it would go ownerless in space?

    [...]

    When this skirmish occurred, a certain group of entities fought in space and won the territory of Earth. These new owners did not want the native Earth species-the humans-to be informed of what took place. Uninformed, the species would be easier to control. This is why light is information and darkness is lack of information. These entities beat out light, and Earth became their territory. It gives you a new idea of light, does it not? There was great radioactivity and nuclear action, and much of Earth was rent asunder. The original species, human creation, experienced great destruction and was scattered.

    [...]

    These new creator gods who were the new owners were also master geneticists. They understood how to create life, and they wanted this territory for their own reasons. Territories are created and held by certain energies for many reasons, one of which is that there is consciousness within all things.

    Consciousness communicates continuously. Consciousness vibrates, or can be led to vibrate, at certain electromagnetic frequencies. Electromagnetic energies of consciousness can be influenced to vibrate in a certain way to create a source of food. Just as apples can he prepared and eaten in a variety of ways, consciousness can be prepared and ingested in a variety of ways.

    Some entities, in the process of their own evolution, began to discover that as they created life and put consciousness into things through modulating the frequencies of forms of consciousness, they could feed themselves; they could keep themselves in charge.

    [...]

    The new owners of this planet had a different appetite and different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves with chaos and fear. These things fed them, stimulated them, and kept them in power.

    These new owners who came here 300,000 years ago are the magnificent beings spoken of in your Bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets, and in texts all over the world. They came to Earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power.

    [...]

    When the great library of yourselves was put into chaos, there was a little bit of data left that kept the species controllable, operable, manageable, and yet functioning on its own, performing tasks and stimulating it as a life form and form of consciousness to produce a certain frequency: fear. This fear has been promoted for the past 300,000 years on this planet as a controlled substance in every version that you can think of.

    When a human being resonates electromagnetically and broadcasts the frequency of fear, a transmission of consciousness is sent out. Where does that fear go? Where do your thoughts go? Where do your emotions go? We have already said that, collectively, consciousness forms food.

    [...]

    When the new owners came in, they worked in their laboratories and created versions of humans with a different DNA-the two-stranded, double-helix DNA. They took the original DNA of the human species and disassembled it. The original DNA pattern was left within the human cells, yet it was not functional; it was split apart, unplugged.

    Within human cells are light-encoded filaments, fine gossamer threads of energy that carry information. When these gossamer threads are working together like a cable-the way fiber optics works-they form the helix of your DNA. When you here rearranged, you were left with the double helix. Anything that was unnecessary for survival and that could keep you informed was unplugged, leaving you with only a double helix that would lock you into controllable, operable frequencies.

    A frequency fence, something like an electrical fence, was put around the-planet to control how much the frequencies of humans could be modulated and changed. As the story goes, this frequency fence made it very difficult for the frequencies of light-information-to penetrate. When light frequencies were able to penetrate the control fence, there was no light to receive them. The humans' DNA was unplugged, the light-encoded filaments were no longer organized, so the creative cosmic rays that brought light did not have anything to plug into and hold onto. [Vivek: This type of thing used to sound like new age mumbo jumbo to me, but now it doesn't. Check this out. Creative, in-streaming cosmic information? Remember what Narby though about DNA? We know now that it can transmit frequencies and light (biophotons, DNA as a fractal antenna, Schumann Resonances). Mix that with the micro-crystal helices being formed in space plasmas. Could they act and transceivers just like our own DNA does? Could we somehow pick up on this information like Shamans communicate with the DNA of plants and other animals? Cool stuff.]

    [...]

    Before frequency control was instituted 300,000 years ago by the raiding group of creator gods, the native species was somewhat clever. They had a very evolved system of receiving information and could directly receive on the planet from space contacts. They also had many different ways of distributing knowledge as it was received. Distributing knowledge on the planet at this time is based on technology- something outside of yourself. It is another clever bill of goods you were sold as a means of control. A long time ago, communication on this planet occurred through contact with one another by the use of internal mechanisms, not by technology outside of yourself.

    Most humans cannot grasp that their history goes back more than a few thousand years. You will learn, remember, and teach the planet that it has a history of millions of years. First, you will uncover and integrate the history of the planet for the past 300,000 years so that you can expand the picture of the human dilemma. Remember, the history is all inside of you, not outside of you.

    [...]

    God with a big G has never visited this planet as an entity. God with a big G is in all things. You have only dealt with gods with a little g who have wanted to be adored and to confuse you, and who have thought of Earth as a principality, a place that they own out in the galactic fringes of this free-will universe.

    Before the raid, you had tremendous abilities. The original biogenetic example of the human was given incredible information, was interdimensional, and could do many things. When those creator gods raided, they found that the local species knew too much. The local species had abilities that were too much like those who were passing themselves off as God.

    A biogenetic manipulation was done, and there was much destruction. There were experimental versions of the species brought onto the planet, where the original database was scattered but not destroyed. At one time, your DNA was intact. It was like a beautiful library where the information was all catalogued and referenced and you could find anything you wanted to find instantly. When- the biogenetic alteration occurred to unplug the data, it eras as if someone hid the reference system and pulled all the books off the shelves and heaped them into a pile on the door so that there was no order to them. This is how your DNA was scattered and scrambled by the raiders a long time ago.

    [...]

    All of the genetic information was scattered; it did not have an order, but it was left inside the cells. The only information that remained for you to play with and to keep you functioning was the double helix. Many of the databases along the double helix were shut down, closed, so that you began to function with very little data. You were very easy to manipulate and control by many aspects of consciousness passing themselves off as God with a big G.

    Certain entities took the existing species, which was indeed a glorious species, and retooled it for their own uses, their own needs. They disrupted the informational frequency inside human beings, changed the DNA, and gave you the double helix so that you could be kept in ignorance. Your frequency of accessibility was simply shut off so that you couldn't turn the dial of your own radio.

    These creator gods set out to alter the DNA inside the human body, which is the intelligence, the blueprint, the code. If a code does not have a place to operate within, it cannot fire itself into existence or express itself into existence. If you are locked up in a little tiny room and never given any place to grow, you can never express yourself. The last number of thousand years, your code has been forced to fit inside a very limited DNA.

    [...]

    Some of these creator gods married and merged their lines, just as on the European continent different monarchs and royal families have married and merged their kingdoms. The creator gods would mix one kind with another to see what they could create. Remember, they understood genetics, and all things were created by manifesting and using the life force and understanding how the life force works. It is beyond your comprehension at this time how vast this project has been.

    [...]

    These space beings are part human and part reptilian. We call them the Lizzies because we like to make things a little less emotional and a little humorous so that you don't take them so seriously and get so upset. We are not here to frighten you-we are here to inform you. You know all of this inside you, and as you begin to open the history of who you are, some' of you will begin to access reptilian memories.

    [...]

    Creator gods take many forms, and they are not all Lizzies. There are creator gods who are insectlike.

    [...]

    Some creator gods created life just to have it take care of them or meet their needs. They have fed off your emotions. One of the big secrets that has been kept from you as a species is the richness and wealth that accompanies emotion. You have been steered away from exploring emotion because through emotion you can figure things out. Your emotions connect you with the spiritual body. The spiritual body, of course, is nonphysical, existing on the multidimensional sphere.

    [...]

    You hold the history of the universe within your physical body. What is occurring upon the planet now is the literal mutation of your physical body, for you are allowing it to be evolved to a point where it will be a computer that can house this information.

    This is going to occur due to biogenetic engineering that really has nothing to do with you. You can facilitate the process, of course, by intending cooperation with it. As a species, you are being biogenetically altered by the beings who created you and who redesign your DNA at periodic junctures in your history.

    [...]

    As the helixes come into full force in a person, there is an awakening of the person's inner knowledge, knowledge that goes beyond what the person has been taught. This inner knowledge is knowledge of self, knowledge that says there is much more than this physical world. Believe it. Know, it. Understand it.

    [...]

    As we related the story to you, the raiding creator gods who came in and took over needed to have you operate in a certain way in order to control you. They needed to unplug your intelligence, and so they did, by scattering and disconnecting the light-encoded filaments that form the helixes in your DNA.

    [...]

    The whole planet has been controlled in such a way that you have been taught and trained from the time you first arrived here that you are not in control of your own reality. You have been taught that everything is circumstantial and that everything depends on something you have no say in. This is wrong! You are the one who controls your DNA.

    You have complete control over everything. Until you discover that and believe it, you are subjected to whatever anyone else wishes to do to you in this free-will zone. And, in your innocence, you have been exposed to things that have allowed your DNA, your intelligence, and many other things to be controlled.

    [...]

    DNA is a living history of truth and life. When one is able to merge with this history, one is able to go into realities without videos, tapes, or books. One is able to experience. Many native cultures were trained to find the remnants of the Living Library left upon this planet. That explains their reverence for Earth and animals and their understanding of the cooperation that runs through everything. These native cultures were purposely put upon the planet so that there would be a training ground and a place of potential memory activation when the time was right.

    DNA holds the code. It holds the blueprint of identity, the plan for existence, the history of the universe, and the history of life in this particular locale. And, it is stored within the cells of humans. The original DNA of the stewards of this planet, the human occupants, had a genetic blueprint system that was based on the number twelve.

    [...]

    Humans have been controlled by frequency for a long time. They are so used to this frequency control and the logical mind has been so overly developed in recent times that there is much suspicion and fear- a dark place of self that is so controlled that people are frightened to even go into it and trust that they could possibly receive information on their own. When you think of the entities who have modulated the way humans broadcast themselves by rearranging their DNA and instituting various scenarios and events upon this planet-and then funneling the results of this psychic energy through different portals out into space for their own reasons-you can see what you are battling.

    [...]

    Human beings have been tucked away, hidden, and forgotten in the antiquities of time ever since their DNA was rearranged, because it is in the distant past of the chronicles of time when the species was alive and vibrating very differently. That time has been forgotten or shelved by some. As we have said, you have been in quarantine, almost as if you have been in the dungeons of time for so long that as the new eras have come forward they have forgotten that you have been here.

    [...]

    When you are locked in evolution by frequency and DNA manipulation, there is only a certain kind of frequency that can broadcast. There is fighting with the self, and things seem to be more separated. As you become more complete, you do not separate things in such a way: you see that all things are part of the experience. Sometimes you become so lost in the experience of being human that you forget what you are here to do.

    Source: http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/ali...the%20Dawn.pdf

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    Now, I will say this. After reading about VALIS and the SSI (of John C. Lilly and Philip K. Dick), phylogenic memory, the Nag Hammadi, the anecdotal testimony of Credo Mutwa, the work of Jeremy Narby, the archontic interpretations of John Lash, memetics, mind parasites, loosh, human endogenous retroviruses, the teachings of Don Juan (Carlos Castaneda), the teachings of Sri Aurobindo on Asuras and Raksashas, the Wetiko Virus (Paul Levy, Jack Forbes), Michael Harner's ayahuasca experience, the theocrats of Kyle Griffith, Carl Jung, Jay Alfred, Philip Goddard, biophotons, plasma crystals in space, directed panspermia, the Schumann Resonance, and DNA -- I could've taken pieces of each of these and lined them up to stitch together a story from their common themes. Which is what I did in my own mind and it was very similar to what Barbara's come up with. I'm still researching, editing, learning, unlearning. Just finding this similar theme in Barbara Marciniak's work is pretty cool -- but it's no bible.

    I have no idea about 12 stranded DNA and I'm not going to pretend to support it. As far as I'm concerned it's science fiction (all of it is), but I love me some good sci-fi.

    Skim over this post again and re-read the first page in this thread and the first page of "The Technological Revolution" thread. It's pretty dang cool. I'm still reading and catching up.

    EDIT/ADD: I almost forgot. She has some things about technology as well.

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    Modern technology is one of the biggest weapons of frequency control. You have been sold devices for entertainment and convenience, and they are all involved with frequency control. We recommend strongly that you get rid of your television sets. They are the primary tool used to manipulate your consciousness on a day-to-day basis. This experiment is so finely tuned that you respond subliminally to disease via the television. So there is an entire generation that is killing itself by watching television-and supporting the medical society while they are doing it.

    [...]

    Most of the subliminals on television are done through technology that was developed in conjunction with off-planetary beings. The use of subliminals to upset human consciousness has become a worldwide program. If you think about the houses that have two, three, and four televisions in them, you must agree that this has been a very successful marketing program. Some people who know about the subliminals on television feel that they are immune to them. However, the effects of television are so permeating that no matter how clear you say you are going to be, you cannot counterbalance what the technology is presently doing to your vibrational frequency.

    We have said that there are entities who feed off your emotional bodies. Think about what a clever tool television is for them. All over the world, billions of humans are emitting emotional juices into the atmosphere based upon what they are watching on the tube. They don't have to have too many wars anymore to get you all riled up-they can simply make movies!

    People who need to watch television are not tapping into the wealth of information within their minds and immediately accessible all around them. As a matter of fact, if you really want to evolve, do not read your newspapers, do not listen to the radio, and do not watch television. If you are able to be media free for periods of time, and you disengage yourself from the frequency of chaos and anxiety and stress and hustle-bustle and temptations of all kinds that you don't need, you begin to get clear. You begin to listen to what is going on inside of yourself and to live in the world and not necessarily be lost in it. You become clear. We cannot emphasize this enough!

    Electronics also jam your frequency. Even when they are not specifically designed to jam your frequency, sometimes there is incompatibility between the electronic frequency of something and yourself. Plus, as we said, many of them are designed to create static so that you will always stay at a certain vibratory rate, turning you into safe, harmless, inactive, productive cattle.

    What about computers? The second most predominant piece of hardware in the United States is the computer. How many of you go to work on computers and end up getting headaches, particularly when you work for large corporations and are hooked up to their mainframe? Large companies are into aspects of mind control; they use your minds to generate energy to achieve something for themselves. Personal computers are not as potent and powerful.

    [...]

    There will be technologies that can counteract much of the frequency control: these technologies can change the quality of your air and water, and they can eliminate and seal off your home so that you are an integral of energy and nothing can bombard you. There are technologies that do phenomenal things. Do you understand how technology has been used against you? It has not been used for you. Television is not necessarily bad in itself, but it has been put to ill purpose. There is nothing wrong with technology. It is now technology is being used that is the bottom line. That is the difference.

    [...]

    There is nothing wrong with technology. The major stumbling block of technology now in use on this planet is that it is used to separate, manipulate, and control people rather than to uplift them. Technology with love is the key.

    Source: http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/ali...the%20Dawn.pdf
    Last edited by Jeffrey; 10th May 2013 at 21:57.

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