Their Mind and the Emotional Matrix that we create with it.

[AwakeInADream]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I'm just plain ol' bad, unshamefully so.

My perspective, to my self, shows guilt and shame being equally useless.

Guilt isn't the same as conscience.

Guilt, shame, regret, all useless...Lets go from ol'bad to ol'blue eye's:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8m0dJXtwwiY

[9eagle9]

Prideful Arrogant Woman have to slap their thighs.

I'm sure you understand why.

That's why women hate their thighs.

Arrogance is a weird thing. It's accepted in a weird way in men. Maybe not found favorable but there's some weird covert acceptance of it. In George Bush's case it was venerated and he was really too stupid behaving to be truly arrogant. Or rather he was arrogant over stupid ****.

In woman, pride (real or fake) is a big no no socially still. It's an underlying program. One cannot tell the authentic pride from the fake vain pride. Real pride meaning you feel good over your accomplishments. Not the arrogant kind that is based on nothing really but one's imaginations of themselves and puffed up vanity that is easily threatened because its there to mask insecurity. In women this is just a loathesome trait the authentic and the fake, mostly because the two can't be separated by the dim eyes of the beholder.

Very peculiar .

I watch animals engage in pride. Trys has got some good ones over on me the last few days and he is just full of himself, prancing around the yard shaking his head and mane, and that big thoroughbred ass all over. Ha ha, you thought you'd pen me up but I jumped over you! I watched him make this cunning maneuver where he's staring at this fence I made, and coaxed him into with a bucket of grain. It was nothing more than a psychological barrier, some hot wire with no 'hot' in it. A non electrified electrical fence. He examined it up and down, backed up and then leaped between the bars sliding through it like water over a fall.

Then ....He's like a QB in the endzone after he's made a touchdown.

This is really naughty spoiled behavior in a 1200 pound animal ...it may even verge on dangerous. But in spite of it all I and my daughter stand there and swell up with pride....lol.

Posted by another bob (here)
What's interesting is that both shame and (arrogant) pride are associated with a physical act of chest-beating. One is in the form of "mea culpa", and the other in the form of "I am the king of the world!". If anything, the act of pointing to one's chest represents a form of direct self-confirmation, asserting the reality of "my" existence, "my" self-image.

[TargeT]

shame is quite often the ultimate tribal punishment, a very old very powerful program, if you can trigger it.

Shame is a much better fit for what I was trying to work on describing above, even better clarification.

My parents used Shame *EDIT* Shame was unfair to my parents, they used "consideration" on me, forced me to look at things from a less self centered angle on me (not abusively, IMO) to correct me as a child, I was never struck; simply talked to... and HOW I DREADED those talks!

Posted by another bob (here)
It's funny how early that gets started too. Today our 14 mo. old grand daughter Ryder was playing with our Lab Amos, and at one point smacked him in the face. We said, "Poor Amos!" and Ryder, who felt implicated by the tribe, and in a fit of self-conscious shame and embarassment, burst out in tears and flung her head into her mom's chest.

My 5 year old breaks out with "I'm a bad kid" every once in a while usually after a display of uncontrolled emotion (wild at this age, due to a short period with her father who we have decided is too abusive for any type of long term relationship), it's an interesting fall back & we have to "talk her down" out of that mentality & try to restore self confidence etc..

[Hervé]

You know what?!

I used to be very racist...

... I couldn't stand idiots, imbeciles, morons, sheeples, PJ people... whatever their creeds, color, ethnicity or gender...

... until I came to understand why those people were that way...

... overwhelmed by that "their"/R6 mind!

That is, in total apathy about pretty much everything.

See this video in order to get an idea of what overwhelms and ensuing apathy do to people:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jMWVUoYNezU

To compound the matter, people in apathy/overwhelm are under a constant hypnotic trance and therefore everything equals everything in their mind... and a guru/leader/"Hitler" has no hindrance of convincing them of anything.

[9eagle9]

This is why I find this so distressing. That is a constant state of existence for a goodish portion of the Population.

A recently inhabited hot topic thread may come to mind. You know people may think that is just having some triggers pulled. But people who go for that emotionally active must fan drama route live in that state all the time. ALL time. Then something happens where they get the loosh trigger pulled or the feel safe to start looshing others themselves. The less you react to it, the angerier they get.

...but otherwise they live in that state of simmering apathy/fear ALL the time. It corrodes and eats away the best remaining parts of them. Toxic body. What is good and whole and integrated becomes toxic. You are dying the whole time you are trying to exist. You aren't living because that has nothing to do with life.

It's not apparent when the their mind is being fed in other ways. But it becomes apparent when the food source is threatened, and that constant state of apathy/fear/same erupts.

That is what I find most distressing of all about this. The quality of life that people don't have.

[Mark]

Posted by CurtisW (here)
In a very abstract way, my question is another version of the question, Is it by Good Works, or Through Faith Alone that one achieves salvation.

Is it enough to simply be blessed with a soul, or does one have to be blessed and then (only if they're lucky enough to have been blessed) do the work to escape Their Mind?

Hi, Curtis, thanks for this thought-provoking idea. I had forgotten that part of Fallen, it has been so long since I've seen it, but you're right, it is relevant and another msm clue pertaining to the real state of affairs, beneath the illusion.

I think doing the work to escape is paramount. We have numerous ways in which the work can be done, the most familiar, the Toltec and Enlightenment methods, stilling the mind and ending discursiveness, the Gnostic method, call-and-response direct engagement with the Archons and tantric orgiastic pratices which strengthen the body and soul through kundalini arousal and the rebuilding of the "glowing coat of awareness" or aura/bioenergetic field.

OPs supposedly do not have higher chakra capacities, according to those who have defined this mode of being. That means they are limited to utilizing only the chakras below the heart-center. But that does also mean they have access to black tantric (orgiastic) sexual practices and can use those in order to build up their fields. This is well in line with what we know about elite dark practices, how they use sex and blood primarily in order to gain access to power and consolidate their rulership.

The souled, on the other hand, have access to the higher chakra centers and can employ white tantric (non-orgastic) methods to raise kundalini if they choose. They can also choose the route of meditative practices that cultivate the higher energy centers, slowly but surely purifying their consciousnesses through kensho/satori experiences until they reach the point where discursiveness has been stopped and the energetic equalization of their words and actions reflect their inner state of being.

Posted by TargeT (here)
This to me is more of the "crap" that is keeping us divided, how was this movie a warning? who was it a warning too? is slavery (other than that forced on us by the government) still practiced here that I don't know about it? if so then it's a warning to them.. Farrakhan is speaking from a point of view that clearly states he thinks a lot in an "us vs them" mentality.

I just don't see it that way at all, & think that analysis is a part of the problem.

Hi TargeT, the "warning" was one that is familiar to anyone who knows about far right-wing/nazi/kkk belief systems, which hold, at their core, that the white race is threatened genetically and materially by the darker races. All attempts to control them - blacks, browns, reds and yellows - have had undergirding them seriously genocidal aims - especially black people - as, genetically, melanated genes dominate. Pure expression of such biologically reveals that dominant genes replace recessive genes over generations. And so the fear goes, whites will be genetically wiped out if they continue to mix with melanated people.

The warning of Django, is that, even though the film was a spaghetti western, it was also a blacksploitation movie, a genre that Tarantino is well familiar with. Blacksploitation films were made primarily in the early-mid 1970s and were generally redemptive in nature, where black people got back at 'the Man' in urban and even western fantasies of blood and revenge. On top of all of that, Tarantino based the movie upon a myth beloved by the Nazis.

So the warning is to white folks: beware, the blacks are coming and they're going to kill you all and burn down your houses. No movie in isolation is going to cause blood and mayhem. But as a contribution to a general climate of alertness and fear, as is now occurring through this perceived attack on the 2nd Amendment by a government led by a nominal black man, the movie hurts more than helps. This was Farrakhan's general point, which I find to hold some validity.

All of this raises energy, fear or excitement, both of which are loosh. Automatic systemic releases that are culled, harvested like crops in a field.

Oh, and slavery is still practiced here in the good old US of A:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

The good old 13th Amendment. The prison system. Another Archonic cum GWSS success.

Posted by TargeT (here)
Well in a lot of respects I will soon have exposure to (as close as I can get as a white male, I imagine) the "other side of the coin" I will be a member of a small minority in the Virgin islands (black 76.2% white 13.1% Asian 1.1% other 6.1% mixed 3.5% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...Virgin_Islands) so maybe this will help with my understanding a bit.

Perhaps. I would be interested to see what your observations are, once you arrive and spend some time down there. But, from what I have studied regarding the GWSS and seen for myself, I doubt you will experience any sort of systemic abuse while you are there. Primarily because you are white. Personal prejudice, maybe. But nothing institutionalized or pervasive throughout the culture. The system of supremacy is global. It is everywhere. Even in blackest Africa, the lightest skinned people are shown preference. Well, except for Albinos in Central African countries, who are sometimes killed and dismembered by Shamans for the magical properties of their body parts.

Posted by TargeT (here)
I don't know if this was directed at me or just "people like me" or what, but I don't know what social programming you speak of, the only social programming I have seen is that other races expect me to be prejudice so I have to some how go out of my way to show that it's not true & apparently from what you are saying this is seen as covering up for being prejudice.

I did think about that after I wrote it and hoped you wouldn't take what I had written as some indication that I was making assumptions about you. I was indeed speaking generally, but using your text as an exemplar and guide for the discussion. The key part of my last statement prior to this response above was:

But, to see others as people like you, you - as a collective member of the GWSS target population - are going against your own social programming, which puts you at loggerheads with family, friends and society. Individuals who want to smile at others not like them, knowing that society says that they are different, are lesser, creates mental and emotional tension which causes them to over-emphasize friendliness, which foments energetic siphoning by the collective Foreign Installation.

The takeaway from that was meant to describe the inherent ability of the souled to see people as people not as colors. But, on top of that, due to a lifetime of socialization within the GWSS and Archonic programming system, the default mode is one of assumed superiority by those of lighter skin. This creates a personality paradox - I assume, as I am not within that experience in this lifetime - where one's deepest urges are to hold all people as being equal, and yet, one has been socialized for a lifetime to feel that they are not. So dealing with this paradox, people overemphasize friendliness.

From birth to 19 years of age I was an Air Force brat, raised on bases around the world. From 19 to 23, I was Active Duty army, so I know how it is in regards to racial relations in the military, although, I'm quite sure things have shifted even more in the 20+ years since I've been out of uniform. Legislating against personal racism as done in the military is the closest this society has come to a truly egalitarian reality, and yet there are deeper currents within the structure itself that are inherently Archonic and that have resulted in patterns of institutional racism as well. It is everywhere.

The questions of guilt and shame that have been raised here are valid as well. I would think that both are at issue, the shame may lead some individuals to feel guilt.

But that's a conversation y'all can have amongst yourselves. My personal perspective is a bit different. I will expound upon the other side of the coin, the Other perspective, and its Archonic siphoning features in my next post. Till then, I'll be over here watching in the shadows with PurpleLama.

[Hervé]

...

[9eagle9]

Faith based on experience or faith based on belief.

I'd imagine good acts would be something like cleaning out the inner land scape so the 'their' mind can't use it against you. Not feeding the 'their' mind, etc etc.

[TargeT]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
Hi TargeT, the "warning" was one that is familiar to anyone who knows about far right-wing/nazi/kkk belief systems, which hold, at their core, that the white race is threatened genetically and materially by the darker races. All attempts to control them have been for genocidal aims, as, genetically, melanated genes dominate. Pure expression of such biologically reveals that dominant genes replace recessive genes over generations, so the fear goes, whites will be genetically wiped out if they continue to mix with melanated people. That is the fear. The warning of Django, is that, even though the film was a spaghetti western, it was also a blacksploitation movie, a genre that Tarantino is well familiar with. Blacksploitation films were made primarily in the early-mid 1970s and were generally redemptive in nature, where black people got back at 'the Man' in urban and even western fantasies of blood and revenge. On top of all of that, Tarantino based the movie upon a myth beloved by the Nazis.

So the warning is to white folks, beware, the blacks are coming and they're going to kill you all and burn down your houses. No movie in isolation is going to cause blood and mayhem. But as a contribution to a general climate of alterness and fear, as is now occurring through this perceived attack on the 2nd Amendment by a government led by a nominal black man, the movie hurts more than helps. This was Farrakhan's general point, which I find to hold some validity.

All of this raises energy, fear or excitement, both of which are loosh. Automatic systemic releases that are culled, harvested like crops in a field.

Ok, that makes sense, but doesn't it sort of infer that "Anglo-Saxons" have mostly recessive genes and the "browner side" have more dominant? is this based on anything or just a baseless fear?

I think my fault was in assuming that this was an all encompassing thing, obviously it will only work on those it works on ( the very reason why there are so many of these types of attacks, gotta find the right trigger for the right people etc..) which is probably also why I personally don't get it, I love hybrids, in the animal world there is a thing referred to as "hybrid vigor" My dogs are "hybrids" (though long established, a mix between Ridgebacks and Mastiff) to an amazing result, I can't see how this would be different with humans.

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
Well in a lot of respects I will soon have exposure to (as close as I can get as a white male, I imagine) the "other side of the coin" I will be a member of a small minority in the Virgin islands (black 76.2% white 13.1% Asian 1.1% other 6.1% mixed 3.5% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...Virgin_Islands) so maybe this will help with my understanding a bit.

Perhaps. I would be interested to see what your observations are, once you arrive and spend some time down there. But, from what I have studied regarding the GWSS and seen for myself, I doubt you will experience any sort of systemic abuse while you are there. Primarily because you are white. Personal prejudice, maybe. But nothing institutionalized or pervasive throughout the culture. The system of supremacy is global. It is everywhere. Even in blackest Africa, the lightest skinned people are shown preference. Well, except for Albinos in Central African countries, who are sometimes killed and dismembered by Shamans for the magical properties of their body parts.

From what I hear this isn't exactly the case, a lot of "whites" complain about issues like DWC (Driving while caucasion) and pockets of strong prejudice (probably heavily influenced by the transient tourist traffic, which seems to breed discontent with most local populations that do not directly (or cannot see the ) bennifit from/of.

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
I don't know if this was directed at me or just "people like me" or what, but I don't know what social programming you speak of, the only social programming I have seen is that other races expect me to be prejudice so I have to some how go out of my way to show that it's not true & apparently from what you are saying this is seen as covering up for being prejudice.

I did think about that after I wrote it and hoped you wouldn't take what I had written as some indication that I was making assumptions about you. I was indeed speaking generally, but using your text as an exemplar and guide for the discussion. The key part of my last statement prior to this response above was:

I wasn't "taking it personally" just trying to see if you were talking based on my situation specifically

Posted by Rahkyt (here)

But, to see others as people like you, you - as a collective member of the GWSS target population - are going against your own social programming, which puts you at loggerheads with family, friends and society. Individuals who want to smile at others not like them, knowing that society says that they are different, are lesser, creates mental and emotional tension which causes them to over-emphasize friendliness, which foments energetic siphoning by the collective Foreign Installation.

The takeaway from that was meant to describe the inherent ability of the souled to see people as people not as colors. But, on top of that, due to a lifetime of socialization within the GWSS and Archonic programming system, the default mode is one of assumed superiority by those of lighter skin. This creates a personality paradox - I assume, as I am not within that experience in this lifetime - where one's deepest urges are to hold all people as being equal, and yet, one has been socialized for a lifetime to feel that they are not. So dealing with this paradox, people overemphasize friendliness.

From birth to 19 years of age I was an Air Force brat, raised on bases around the world. From 19 to 23, I was Active Duty army, so I know how it is in regards to racial relations in the military, although, I'm quite sure things have shifted even more in the 20+ years since I've been out of uniform. Legislating against personal racism as done in the military is the closest this society has come to a truly egalitarian reality, and yet there are deeper currents within the structure itself that are inherently Archonic and that have resulted in patterns of racism as well. It is everywhere.

I think you'd be very hard pressed to find racism in the military, unless it was against "whites" as promotion for minorities is looked on VERY favorably, and female minorities even more so (perhaps a bit of that over correction you were speaking of, but again, not to cover up prejudice..)

[Gardener]

Ok I don't fully understand your perspective R but I hear ya, it has been somewhat different for my path, I guess being british I wasn't really exposed to it, and to be honest I didn't hear or become aware of racism until i was about 18, and I certainly didn't hear anyone in the family talk about it, I don't know why, it just wasn't on the radar even though we had friends.

From 18 on I would get bent out of shape when the subject came up because I truly couldn't understand what the fuss was about. I did find out eventually and one of the defining moments for me was reading a book by Peter Fryer about the history of the slave trade and the Liverpool docks, how the banks were started to house the money which was changing hands for these slaves which were brought in and who were sold and shipped to America.

However there are other divisive and deeply ingrained social structures ie. the british 'class' system (yea ikr.)

I can see the compensation bit though, or rather over compensation. From my part as an attempt in part to equal the power structure, of what (I now know) is a very real disadvantage, like being female, or lower class, or less educated. No I don't think I have guilt or shame, except maybe that my fellow humans can be the way they are to anyone. So really I am not qualified to comment though I did feel a somewhat deep sigh that here of all places it should matter.

[Mark]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Ok, that makes sense, but doesn't it sort of infer that "Anglo-Saxons" have mostly recessive genes and the "browner side" have more dominant? is this based on anything or just a baseless fear?

No, it seems to be a real fear. Based on biological rules of dominance and recessiveness. People are generally and individually a mixture of both, depending upon their heritage. On top of all of that, it seems that the white populations in Europe and also in the US are not reproducing. Not meeting the replacement rate of 2.1 per family, so the population of whites across the world is falling. In a real biological sense, the alarmists do have a point.

Posted by TargeT (here)
I think my fault was in assuming that this was an all encompassing thing, obviously it will only work on those it works on ( the very reason why there are so many of these types of attacks, gotta find the right trigger for the right people etc..) which is probably also why I personally don't get it, I love hybrids, in the animal world there is a thing referred to as "hybrid vigor" My dogs are "hybrids" (though long established, a mix between Ridgebacks and Mastiff) to an amazing result, I can't see how this would be different with humans.

There is research to state that it is the same. I suppose America is the country in the world that is the most "hybridized" of them all. Nobody can say that Americans are not vigorous.

Posted by TargeT (here)
I think you'd be very hard pressed to find racism in the military, unless it was against "whites" as promotion for minorities is looked on VERY favorably, and female minorities even more so (perhaps a bit of that over correction you were speaking of, but again, not to cover up prejudice..)

I will take your word for it as you are active duty. This is the reason why military and government service has been so eagerly adopted by minority populations over the past 3 or 4 generations. More accountability and transparency in its procedures than in the civilian world.

It is mind-boggling when considered. The interlocking systems of energy production and transfer, each contributing to the whole, some systems contributing more, others less. The military interacting with the government, both interacting with the states, interacting with the regions and localities, comprised of the people. The only way this can be conceivable as a process and a consciousness is if the Archons are a collective hive mind, as Casteneda/Don Juan stated.

While each of us, individually, is compromised to a greater or lesser extent, with our own personal Archonic presence either fully engaged or disengaged due to spiritual/mental work, other individuals can be brought to bear instantly and automatically in order to re-engage us if it is perceived by an individual unit of the Archon collective, the entire field of awareness knows it and can react at whatever level of control necessary. Which gives rise to some questions:

1. What is the Archonic Hierarchy?

2. Within the hive mind, is there a Queen, as with Bees or Ants or the Borg?

3. Must one hide from the system when one has achieved freedom, like the Toltec warriors, as exemplified by Don Juan, or like the Monks and Nuns of Qum'ran, hidden on a mountain in the desert in Southwest Asia?

Posted by Gardener (here)
So really I am not qualified to comment though I did feel a somewhat deep sigh that here of all places it should matter.

Hi, Gardner. The GWSS is a global system. Archonic control came through GB to even get to the Americas. The Central Banks coming out of GB, Germany and France are a major part of the Archonic Control Hierarchy and super-structure of the worldwide system, even today. Great Britain is implicit within the system as well, with roots as deep as America, although the history is different. The slave trade as practice by GB was quite different from how the Spanish and the Portugese practiced it for a couple hundred years prior to GB entering it. They restricted slavery to very low numbers for quite a long time, did not want the Americas to become "overrun" with Africans.

Then, when GB, France, the Netherlands and other Northern European countries got into the mix, it was a free for all and the most brutal period of the trade, as capitalism became paramount, rather than "royal dispensations", as was the case with the Spanish and Portugese, who only allowed certain Conversos and Jewish merchant houses to sell and transport slaves throughout that time period.

As for this topic occurring here in PA, even this space is a part of the system, although a consciously more Awake and Aware part of it. I am aware that racism is an uncomfortable sub-topic of the overall uncomfortable topic of Archon invasion and control.

But it is necessary to reveal as much of it as possible. My contributions in this regard to this thread is an attempt to make us all even more awake and aware.

Don't sigh, smile. Take the information as enlightening, as it pertains to things that many people have no awareness of, as you have indicated was the case with yourself in your own personal experiences.

[modwiz]

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
I'm out of my depth intellectually here, but....

Isn't this over-emphasized friendliness just a kind of guilt? Perhaps an unnecessary guilt brought on by the 'felt' need to apologize on behalf the race one identifies with?

Is guilt perhaps one of the most harmful and sneaky emotions there is?

Maybe guilt about an emotion leads to repression causing explosion, aiding the leakage and collection of the loosh by outside entities? As Rahkyt said, Yum!

I see and use guilt as an alarm. It tells me that there is a friction or disharmony between two parts of my self. Like any alarm, which is usually a trip mechanism, the mental body should go and have a look at things. What is the disharmonic? Where is the clash of ideas/feelings? Is it objectively valid or is it just programming?

Now there is a whole subset of conversation that could follow here. Theft could be a discourse in itself. Poor versus rich would be part of that topic. Why is one rich/poor is another deeper conversation. Theft as violation rather than need is another aspect.

Back to guilt. It is a trip mechanism. When it goes off have a good look at what set it off. We will often learn much about ourselves from a deeper look at what causes the guilt response.

[Gardener]

Yes R I can see it has been and still is a huge loosh fest, the suffering has been enormous; and I am grateful that you can include it in discussions about division and triggering without us feeding them lol. That's the secret, to remove the feeding tubes, and yet support those who are still suffering the effects. IMHO

[Curt]

One of the most interesting documentary films I've ever seen was a movie called, 'The Color of Fear.' I watched it for a sociology course in college.

When I watched it, I approached it cynically--assuming it would be just another slapped together documentary about how racism is bad. Something that would only provoke a whole lot of unproductive guilt.

Happily, I was wrong. It changed the way I look at things.

The film is essentially just a dialogue between a small group of men, each from different ethnic and racial groups, entirely on the subject of race.

It starts out with the kind of formal niceness you might expect. But it gets real pretty quickly.

It was the first piece of media that opened my eyes to how race works and what race does to people.

For anyone who hasn't seen it and has an hour to spare, definitely check it out. Imo, it's well worth it.

Here is the link:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hswHYWS5GPs

[Belle]

My mom raised my brother and I with guilt and shame...her control mechanism (I was raised catholic...surprise, surprise). She continues to use it to this day as a manipulation device...tho' I don't know why. It hasn't worked in years. I spent a lot of time and hard work to purge the voice of shame that would fill me...even after it was no longer her voice, but 'their mind' echoing her words.

Told both my children when they were fairly young that if I ever tried to use guilt or shame on them to make me aware of it...a concern I had about unconsciously using what had been used on me growing up. Didn't take long...in the middle of a loud 'discussion', my then teenage daughter put her hands on her hips and said "pack your bags...we're going on a guilt trip". I was stunned to silence...then laughed so hard tears streamed down. Lesson learned.


So glad we are finally talking about racism. Thank you, Rahkyt. It is one of their most successful programs...it runs silent and deep. It must be brought out into the open to be broken...yet most people are terrified of even speaking the word.

Moving to Louisiana for a time opened the eyes of this damn Yankee to the extent of damage that rampant prejudice can have on society...at least in the little town I lived in. Shook a few people up, especiallly my former mother-in-law, when I would go to the black baptist revival services down the street from her home. The only white face in the place...I would dance and dance to some of the most joyful music I ever heard (drums in a church? awesome!) with some of the nicest people I have ever had the pleasure to be friends with. I think she was quite relieved when we divorced.

[Flash]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by AwakeInADream (here)
I'm out of my depth intellectually here, but....

Isn't this over-emphasized friendliness just a kind of guilt? Perhaps an unnecessary guilt brought on by the 'felt' need to apologize on behalf the race one identifies with?

Is guilt perhaps one of the most harmful and sneaky emotions there is?

Maybe guilt about an emotion leads to repression causing explosion, aiding the leakage and collection of the loosh by outside entities? As Rahkyt said, Yum!

I see and use guilt as an alarm. It tells me that there is a friction or disharmony between two parts of my self. Like any alarm, which is usually a trip mechanism, the mental body should go and have a look at things. What is the disharmonic? Where is the clash of ideas/feelings? Is it objectively valid or is it just programming?

Now there is a whole subset of conversation that could follow here. Theft could be a discourse in itself. Poor versus rich would be part of that topic. Why is one rich/poor is another deeper conversation. Theft as violation rather than need is another aspect.

Back to guilt. It is a trip mechanism. When it goes off have a good look at what set it off. We will often learn much about ourselves from a deeper look at what causes the guilt response.

Your post triggered just a small comment here.

Guilt has been hugely used by the Catholic church to control people. I think it is a mental/loosh framework of the entire Christian community. As soon as you have the original sin, you have guilt. Now there is this controlling guilt, used by controllers, and there is the genuine guilt, such I hit someone because I was jalous, realise it and want to correct. The latter is short lived and resolve is fast (although I think it is still base on archonic stuff). The original sin and its guilt is the way to control in individualistic societies.

In Moslem countries, guilt does not work that much. What is usually used is shame. From the muslims up to China. All collectivist societies will use shame. You shame my family by being raped, then we will kill you to save face, you shame me by castigating me, this is the worst punition. You do not have eternal condemnation in those societies, but with shame, you have the immediate community/society condemnation, often outcasting you. It could even jeopardize your life at some point. Shame is used to control people.

When working abroad or exploiting abroad, the white people had understood very well that shame should be used. So they used it, like I am superior, you are inferior and should be ashame to even exist. Psychopaths also know how to use both, shame and guilt. Finally, new agers will use guilt by saying "you are entirely responsible for every single thing happening to you" when someone is not emotionnally/spiritually/informationnally ready to hear this. And the new agers did use shame on us when we were teenagers for not being like other, if we were not new agers or did not want to have free sex (I clearly remember that one at sixteen from a 27 years old).

If you would see the wild fire of fashion in collectivist societies, much worst and much faster than in individualistic ones, you would know what is meant by using shame to sell products.

I would have much to say about racism as well, on both side of the fence, and sexism, but for another time.

Now I will go back to my western guilt and do my homework before my course tomorrow morning. LOL In case the eastern teacher wants to shame me for not having done it. LOL

Edit: lucky the comment was small, what will it be when it is a long one!!!


Belle, yes, the guilt trip in catholic families, often with those words: you should, you could, you could have, you should have, you shouldn't. When a phrase starts with these, I have goosebumps, my brain freezes so that nothing will get into it any further, to avoid the harm. Thanks to NLP, I have learned to say what? Should and could does not exist anymore or and what if? or so what? and f ck!

[9eagle9]

The Anglo Saxon Mission sort of thing is a very peculiar paradigm and meant to blur and hide.

Anglo would be English as the term stands now and Saxon indicates the House of Sax-Coburg which is Germanic in nature. What is curious is for those white races that would not have any prejudices against those of color (and I don't mean just black but people of color--yellow, brown, black, red) the conditions had to be made.

The Irish were assimilated by the English . The Vatican first came in and chewed them up. Then English came in and spat them out. And that blood was attempted to be forced into that line. The Irish should know better (certainly didn't know any differently) about slavery having been enslaved for god knows how long. It was different than the African slavery that Africans were exported from Africa to be slaves by the English, the English simply moved into Ireland to enslave the Irish.


The Irish (and other immigrants) who sought to escape the enslavement of their country were met here in the US by the program of "Black People will take your Job". The Emancipation Proclamation roughly coincides with the arrival of many Irish Immigrants who should probably know better the implications of slavery having just escaped it themselves. Yet that is what they were indoctrinated with. You escaped one prison and now you won't be able to support yourself in this new land because these free blacks are taking your jobs.

It's been a matter of curiosity to me. The English regarded both Africans and the Native Americans as savages. Why didn't they move to America and simply enslave the Native Americans. I know in some instances that occurred but not like on the scale of how it happened in Ireland. Or maybe they didn't know the terrain as well as they did in Africa. Or the scope of what they were getting in to because much of the country was still uncharted and held by foreign nations.

But it goes back to the Anglo Saxon which seems to have developed itself from Germanic bloodlines in that part of Europe. Curiously enough the Vatican no longer has popes that are Latin. They are now emerging from those portions of Europe. Personally I think its the Vatican running the show or whatever is behind what the Vatican represents. The other kings and queens what few are remaining serve the Vatican and the Church of England was instituted to hide that.

Right now it is the English (Anglo) dominating the world as far as the PTB goes, the UK and its bottom feeders that are represetned by the figure head the queen who is Anglo Saxon with a Sax -Coburg Husband and the Vatican that more than likely has a Sax figurehead in the form of the Pope.

And the mechanisms for emotional 'their' mind dominion are inhabited by the doctrines of the Catholic Church. Guilt and fear.

The big three major world religions are all sourced to Abraham. Their Abrahamic, all of them, in nature. Moslem, Christian (Catholic) and Hebrew. Guilt, shame. Guilt shame. A constant state of dishonoring one's self.

[9eagle9]

Bill Ryan I understand said it best. When you really have the goods on something, you are the first to be killed. Or culled.

Of course referring to whistleblowers and the powers that be.

But it applies everywhere.


Look how thoughtful and non aggressive this thread is. How lacking in fake emotions it is. How there’s no their mind at work here. It’s not safe here so it doesn’t leave its drama calling cards behind.

Of course we don’t like knowing that their mind inhabits us. It’s horrifying. It’s like waking up from a bad dream where you are raping and harming and murdering others but then suddenly….you realize it’s not a dream. It’s reality. That is what you have been doing. Mostly to yourself if you are lucky.

We talk about this not because we hate you for ‘their’ mind but because we want to HELP you free yourself from it.

It abuses you at the lowest most heinous level , and allows you to feel ‘correct’ in abusing others in covert ways using its operating system. It’s a program. The obvious verbal abuser takes a back seat to this; they are like lambs compared to this covert psy ops where nearly everyone is an agent.

Most times they are not abusive at all, the ‘their’ mind decides they are because someone has seen ‘their’ mind at work and of course that is abusive to their mind. It doesn’t promote a safe environment.

Don’t believe it? In spite of the evidence all around?

It makes you a feeder of people even as you yourself are harvested. These are the actions of which you will be standing in at the end of your life. This is what you will have to look upon as your life purpose, you were a feeder, a harvester, a sacrificer of others before you yourself are sacrificed.

Or you were until you find your right mind and you won’t have that confronting you at the end of your life.

OUR life PURPOSE is to collectively rid ourselves of THEIR mind. And people, the battle has just begun, the story is just beginning. For those in your right mind many of you can look back over your lives and see how the abuse and trauma that was inflicted on you was meant to cripple you from your purpose.

Instead, for some, it made you strong and purposeful once you began to know your right mind. What your purpose was simply not to succumb to their mind. For those seeking their purpose in life…this is it. And you don’t have to give up nothing but…their mind. You can still have a life of profound things and superficial things, and still be in one’s life purpose.

You swimming in deep water trying to get away from their mind? You are almost there and more awakened than most.

If one has opportunity to look back on their li(f)e they will know all their li(v)es they have been fed before they are processed again to do the same thing. The cycle of reincarnation is weakened when we stop feeding their minds, stop coddling their minds, and stop creating the conditions to be re-used over and over as batteries for it. Stop creating with our life a place for them to live. All we have to do to reclaim the world is expose the ‘their’ mind. First within and then without.

Right now we have bunch of people with ‘their’ minds trying to expose the ‘their’ minds at the top of the pyramid. That explains why 95 percent of alt media is ‘their’ mind BS.

This is not fluff, prattle and ‘love’ everyone. This is where it’s at. And loving it with a feather duster will just firmly entrench one in it further.

May we now know why trust is not possible? Why REAL love is not possible? May we now refer back this event when one feels they are ‘owed’ the trust of others.

When one demands the trust of others and then turns around shows what they are not trustworthy themselves—that they are a danger to themselves. There’s a valuable learning lesson not only for the ones who are demanding but the ones who have been previously imposed on. Untrustworthy. Trust is not forced on other people with strong armed displays of pack mentality. DEMANDs for the emotions that were refused, to feed it with, and groups of people savaging others. When the verbal attack failed the ‘their’ mind had to escalate it to a psychic attack to get its meal that way.

Those in their right mind felt it but…’their’ mind didn’t have anything to draw from.

That is what the ptb does. That doesn’t promote trust. It reveals that trust has been corrupted. That a psychic power play is being initiated under the dependable sounding term ‘ trust’ and safety. Look how cleverly it made a safe nest for itself under the guise of love, trust, safety and respect. Till some right minds showed up and routed it. Now do we know what it means when we say those are empty words. Why they feel empty when they are said. They are empty. Just constructs to be inhabited by their mind.

You may ‘think’ you were deceived by someone else but you were deceived by their own mind. I seen it for what it was . I spoke respectfully to it, and that made it angrier. I didn’t react to it or get emotional with it, and that made it even angrier.

It wanted Something, anything, and it had to dig more and more entrenching and calling for back up to get that loosh, that emotional reaction that it craved. It got so infuriated by not getting what it wanted, it began howling in the pack mentality to rip something, anything apart even if was each other …and it still didn’t get its way.

The useless steers that won’t feed it, can’t be milked, so thus has to be culled from the herd.

How many people felt the energy when it reached its frustrated crescendo. It was you few in your rational sane minds that drove it there because you were not giving it what it wanted. Then the snap, the organic portals opened and it turned into the satanic ritualized pack mentality of psychic attack.

That was not coming from right minded members, no one in their right mind is capable of doing that to another being. It was directed at rational members and yes they felt it. And they know where it came from.

They can’t deny they felt it and there’s nothing the ‘flyer’ mind can do to cover its tracks. One reveals themselves for what they really serve. The people who were attempting to keep a sane and rational space are the ones who got the fallout from that as the bottom feeders got their feast.

Well done right mind. You will have few obvious victories in life but this is one of them.

The next day we can put that in perspective and realize 'that was bad,' but it was not omnipotent bad. It can’t be all powerful because I fended it off. I talked myself down from the cliff they were trying to push me over. And believe me you, it gets easier to do each time.

There is not a word that could ever come out of my mouth, or anyone who strives to uphold the right mind, to anyone anywhere that could hurt anyone the way that the attack initiated and intended to attack. Not against me, it knew it was getting nowhere with me and other right minded rational members. Not against me the ‘bad’ guy. The bad guy puts up with that crap everyday and guards themselves against it. Self admittedly and honestly I said that and the their mind took it as a challenge to it.

Who is the bad buy now?

It’s us. It’s always been us.

Nor did we have to accuse, bait or demand or react, we simply let it do what we can trust it to do as it has done over and over down through the centuries. Use us, humans, to create a war against each other.

And it came from those ‘claiming’ to want a safe place . Of course it want’s a safe place, its not really all that powerful without us. In fact it has no power at all without us.

You got turned into an organic portal and it used you. Those people in their right KNOW that it didn’t come from those in their right minds, its laid out post by post, crescendo-ing up into a feeding frenzy.

The herd mentality in an instant got shifted to pack mentality and it wanted loosh. Every time things began to level out or saner heads tried to prevail the their mindset had to come back and stir the flames with...what else.

Emotions. Hurt. Claiming injury even while it was seeking a away to harm others, lies and deceit. It came from the combined pack mentality of ‘their’mind because it drove you over the edge from reason and it used you to attack other members whom you claim to value and ‘think’ you want to protect even as you are bludgeoning them. Covertly done on the psychic level. If you want to know what its like to be ‘psychic’ both sides had the opportunity there.

Ah..You see how many of them it takes to ‘try’ to bring down the right mind of a few. A lot. It needs a pack to hunt with and still it didn’t quite succeed.

That is what the ptb is all about. There's few of them ruling the world, and they need a lot of us with ‘their’ mindset to pull off their power plays. With their mind.

And you think this is a safe environment for anyone? Not just this forum, the world at large. There is NOT a place safe where that mentality is present. NO where is there safety when that mentality is given free rein under labels like ‘trust’ love and respect’ --that is corruption of sacred things. How long are we going to allow this? As recently demonstrated it seems we are not ‘allowing’ it anymore.

And we know the sobering truth that our ‘friends’ those who talk about love and friendship and being a family will stone us when we stand up against ‘their’ mind.

It’s ludicrous to talk of safety when you are doing something of that nature on that level of psychic attack. And you weren’t even aware you were doing it.

YOU WEREN”T doing it. Their mind was. Did you clamp down it, did you make it stop? No. Did you ignore the saner minds who questioned and tried to prevail. Then some few stepped forward and said, I see what ‘their’ mind is doing here and wow did the fur fly then. Because their mind thought it was being subtle and clever . It’s not. It’s OBVIOUS to those in their right mind. Or even those who are barely in their right mind.

With all the knowledge available at hand concerning this sort of thing made available on this forum alone, one does not know what the ‘their’ mind is up to. HOW could you not know with all the currently available knowledge?

Not reading it? Their mind doesn’t want you to? It’s uncomfortable reading this stuff isn’t it? We don’t feel safe reading it do we. In fact we can back away from this post and self righteously sniff, 'I didn’t read it. too negative'

But…it’s still there waiting to attack. It’s rationalizing and seeking someone to blame now as we speak for what it did and the thing is…its cover is blown. Ounce it used a psychic attack then we can hear its psyche at work. It can’t rationalize a way from this because reason is not how it operates. It will feebly try to forge dishonest statements, forged documents, and some fear porn and mongering to stir its flames again so the evidence can be burned. We hear it doing that now even though we aren’t quite sure what we are hearing.

Trust? It’s broken. Safety? Not possible when people know that you are a tool for ‘their’ mind punishment.

We turn into the very thing we hate, the very things we claim we hate. Powers that be, and psychic vampirism.

And this is what I and others have been warning you about . Your sense of ‘not safe’ is coming from inside you. It’s their mind that doesn’t feel safe. Get rid it. Let us HELP you get rid of it. Get in your right mind where you ARE safe no matter what is going on all around you.

We are all in the same boat on this one it’s just that some are rowing the oars and some are just sitting in the boat feeling adrift and letting the tides of their mind take them wherever it feels good for it to be.

Instead you say we’re mean, and abusive We are. Because we are not creating a safe environment for ‘their’ mind. We are attempting to make a safe environment, a safe world for YOU ALL. Because you have their mind, you don’t feel safe. You are protecting it. That is why some feel safe and others don’t.

Do I or anyone who has ever become aware of the ‘their’ mind at work within them feel good knowing this. No! It’s horrifying to know what we have become. It’ scary, but the moment you know it and say ‘this no longer will be’ you are empowered to master the artificial installation. It’s not YOU. It’s their mind making you THINK It’s you.

I’m not excusing people; you cannot use that empowerment to excuse but to exorcise. I KNOW its not you, Father please forgive them because they know not what they do.

But you have to meet those who are claiming our rights to the right mind half way here by admitting you are not operating under your own volition. Then we can help you. You are after all the one wielding it and being abused by it. Look in the mirror and say it. I’m not in my right mind.

The world doesn’t fall apart; it begins to open up.

We are asking you to please stop abusing yourself. And in doing so abusing others on it’s behalf.

A vast majority of the membership here now have direct evidence of the 'their' mind turning us into the very thing we claim to hate. Right in front of our eyes. Because YOU cannot control their ‘ mind. That is why that thread got out of control.

Their mind and you the vessel that serves it. Even 'their’ mind is not in control of itself, its chains are being yanked by something higher up the food chain. How do you hope to control yourself with those sorts of odds? How do you hope to ever feel safe in that sort of construct?

Something that inhabits all of us, leverages our emotions until it runs free to loosh you and others. It attacked you and fed until you in turn had to psychically attack and feed on others to reclaim your false sense of power. Until it felt safe again.

That is a safe environment? That thread represented safety? My friends if that is safety for you then you know emphatically why the world is the way it is.

Every time I seen someone talking about ‘let’s make this a safe place their mind reared up and spewed again. NO . I don’t want authenticity I want damaged hurt and fraud to feed on.

Because people who exhibit that sort of behavior are firmly in ‘their’ mind set. No its not feeling safe these days, there’s too many threads that threaten its safety. Now that it no longer has the collective tied up in is favorite hiding spot 12-21-12 its feeling a little insecure. As the OP said, It needs a safe environment. Because you have their mind, you need a safe environment for it to inhabit.

With Vivek’s threads on parastical energies, the Horus Ra thread, the Holograpthic Kinetics thread, and my thread on the Emotional Matrix I’d imagine its not feeling safe at all. Therefore you aren’t. Didn’t I get booted from the Horus Ra thread because one of their minds was not feeling safe because I wouldn’t let it bottom feed on me. It thanked you for your intervention but continued to raise hell in the forum until someone had the good sense to banish it. Wynderer was not a good vessel for their mind, too obvious about holding it and carrying it’s infection. Not subtle enough and most of all…talking about how there is no defense against their mind.

Guess what. We proved there is.

But not before banishing the one who was attempting to keep it from bottom feeding on others. Particularly...If you are not going to keep me safe from ‘their’ mind and I have no doubt you can’t because you are of their mind itself, it is then up to me to keep me safe—from the ultimate power play tool of the powers that be. You serve it even as you ‘claim’ to be against it. I think a number of people said that. It is up to me to keep me safe.

Now its been called out by right minded members. Far too few of them and far too many of it. Still it takes only a few who stand in truth against it to make it implode in on itself and reveal itself for what it is. Now we know where the psychic attacks of the powers that be are issuing from. Their organic portals. Now we see they have no power at all without those who bow down to it and allow themselves to be used by it.

Knowing this is where our power is and how to reclaim it. It has been a valuable lesson for those who were not altogether clear on how ‘their’ mind operates.

People provide their own evidence, I have stated that a million times if I have not stated it once.

The deception, dishonesty , and attempted emotional manipulation was observed by far too many rational right minded members for anyone who participated in that psychic attack upon other members to retreat back to the masks you wear so you can continue to pretend to be what you are not.

Really there is a lot of ‘their’ mind nerve in stating that other’s are abusive when you ALLOW a stage like that to be set and launched on members all the while claiming its ot keep them safe. That is what the powers that be, the government does. That is what the Powers the Be do period. And you who claim you are against them do their dirty work for them on a psychic and emotional level , to kill the few who are adamantly against the enslavement of humanity.

I will not hide from what is being done to humanity, I won’t feed it, I won’t protect it and I will not make it feel safe. That right there is harvesting, feeding on others. Someone skyped me and asked, What will happen to those people?

I can’t tell you. They are harvested already so that attacks can be made on those attempting to get out from other their mind…they’ll be continued to be used as batteries is all I can say.

I know that I am angrily' abusive' for wanting to prevent that loss of life and theft of soul and energy but angry is how I will remain. Better to be angry than fed on. Better to be angry than to be turned into them.

Because its not the anger of 'their' mind we are experiencing. It's the power of will.

[Jeffrey]

Thanks to Dennis for posting this.


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[Mark]

I can remember the first time I witnessed the foreign installation within myself.

About 1998 or 99. I was on the back porch, smoking a cigarette. Thinking about smoking the cigarette and wanting to quit. I remember going within, looking at the idea of smoking. Then, thinking about the pleasure of smoking. What the chemicals they put in the nicotine, filter and paper do to you; about cancer, about death. I thought about how that conflicts with the pleasure, and what is it within me that would allow me to continually do what I knew might eventually kill me?

Then it came down to each drag. I would lift the cigarette to my lips, inhale. I would think about it as I did so, examining the thoughts that were going through my mind, the feeling in my mouth, my lungs, the rise of my chest as I inhaled, the nicotine surging through my bloodstream, making my body tingle. I see now that was a meditation of sorts and, as is the case with meditation, at some point, discursiveness halted and I was confronted with a thing.

This thing was conscious and this thing was not me. This thing knew me intimately and knew that I was watching it. This thing was malevolent, I could feel it, coiled back there in the darkness of my mind like a spider in the corner of a dark ceiling, watching me, knowing my every move, my every thought, my every wish and desire. Knowing them because they were its moves, its thoughts, its wishes and its desires. I sensed no scurrying to the corners, no attempting to hide on its part. It sat there, wtihin me, just staring back at me, present and awake, aware and boldly assertive of its right to be there, here, in my mind.

Did I throw the cigarette away in revulsion and achieve enlightenment in that instant, banishing the flyer never to return?

No. The entire episode lasted perhaps the space of a breath, the cigarette held up, before my lips, waiting for my drag. So I hit it and continued upon the path that would lead me here and now, to this moment and space. Through the drama, the pain, the heartache, the life that I chose through every decision preceding that point of recognition of the existence within me of something that was not me.

It is true that I had read the first of Casteneda's books many years before, but it took me 25 years to finish the entire series, reading some books multiple times and finding others at very meaningful times in my life. Knowledge, in my case, often acted as a barrier to recognition of my fundamentally compromised state of being. The bulk of information filling my mind, contributing to the streams of thoughts and concepts and ideas that would circulate endlessly, supported and initiated many times by the discursive whisper of the flyer's mind, which was my mind.

You can call it ego if you want to. It makes no difference. You can call it by whatever name you wish. It matters not.

What does matter is that an effort is made to transcend it, to quiet it, to gain control over the mind and its contents. There is no higher goal in life. There is no greater purpose. When the ancients inscribed first on the Temple in Luxor and later at the Oracle of Delphi, "Man, know thyself ... and thou shalt know the gods", they were not talking about knowing the foreign installation. They were not talking about listening to the constant chatter of thoughts running ceaselessly through our mind, because they knew that those were not our "selves".

They knew that to "know thyself", it was necessary to go beyond discursiveness. Beyond the chatter. And into the deep well of silence and infinite potential of that which lies beneath even what we might arrogantly consider the inscrutable depth of our random thoughts and musing.