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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    Kevin Annett's view point on that thing (http://www.henrymakow.com/):



    Money Scandal Behind Papal Coup d'Etat

    February 11, 2013

    Left, The Ex Pope and the New Pope? Joseph Ratzinger (l) and the palace coup-master, Cardinal Bertone

    To understand the Pope's resignation, Kevin Annett says, "Follow the money."

    "What sounded the death knell on Pope Benedict was his personal implication in the bribery and money-laundering practices of the Vatican Bank."


    by Kevin Annett
    (henrymakow.,com)

    Theories are abounding now that the first pope in seven centuries is resigning his office. But as always, the most direct way to the truth behind the world's oldest corporation is simply to follow the money: and specifically, Vatican Bank money.

    First of all, let's put to rest, the fallacy that "looming scandals" about child rape and coverup are behind Joseph Ratzinger's resignation. That's just the cover story.

    Nobody in the church hierarchy is losing sleep over their standing, canon-law endorsed policy of concealing and protecting child rapists in their ranks. Even the International Criminal Court application about such crimes has been stymied by catholic-run legislators and jurists.

    What sounded the death knell on Pope Benedict was his personal implication in the bribery and money-laundering practices of the Vatican Bank, comically known as The Institute of Religious Works (IOR); and how that dirty connection gave the anti-Ratzinger faction in the College of Cardinals the lever they needed to dump the obstinate German from the papal throne.

    We had a whiff of that dump-Rat Boy agenda last year, when "Vatileaks" broke a ludicrous story of how Ratzinger's loyal butler Paolo Gabriele disclosed the pope's dirty secrets to the Italian media. In fact, the damning documents detailing Ratzinger's secret rewarding of Vatican contracts to his friends and family members originated in the Vatican Secretary of State's office, which the fall-guy butler could not have had access to.

    The Secretary of State and the real power behind the papacy is Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, an old insider who also engineered the sacking of Gotti Tedeschi, head of the Vatican Bank, last May.

    Tedeschi had taken seriously the call of the European Parliament for "greater transparency" by the Vatican Bank /IOR, and was about to disclose to Brussels how his bosses had been laundering money for the mob for decades. The last Pope who had tried such a disclosure, John Paul 1, died from poisoning in September, 1978 after less than a month in office.

    But even with Tedeschi silenced, the IOR house of cards kept tumbling, as the European Parliament seized from it 300 million Euros fraudulently acquired. Even the American Securities and Exchange Commission declared the IOR's assets and practices "insecure". A major Vatican housecleaning was required; or at least, the appearance of one.

    It was the pivotal Cardinal Bertone who leaked the pope's diary and other incriminating papers to a catholic-friendly journalist in Rome last year the same month that Tedeschi was sacked, to prepare the world for Ratzinger's removal. For it is Bertone who is now reaping the benefits of the papal housecleaning. He is not only a primary contender for the pope's position but a key player in the IOR.

    During my second speaking tour in Rome, in the spring of 2010, I met with several senior Italian senators and officials of the parliamentary Radical Party. They all said the same thing about why Joseph Ratzinger had been made pope, and what awaited him. To quote one of those politicians,

    "Nobody becomes pope without a sordid past, because only with such liabilities can he be controlled by the Curia. It's the same in any big company. Well, Ratzinger made many indiscretions as a Cardinal and made many enemies. His signing letters ordering criminal concealment was just one sin. He was to be the scapegoat for all of the trash that the church knew would surface"

    So now, the papal scapegoat is gone, pensioned off to wherever ex-popes end up; and the time for the big face-saving lie has arrived.

    The idea of applying cosmetic surgery to a decaying facade like the Church of Rome reminds me of Shirley Maclaine trying to look forty at the age of ninety. And yet appearances are everything in show business as well as in religion.

    Tarcisio Bertone is about as institutional as you can get, and represents the old Italian crowd of the Curia, who are part of the Mob-government-papal clique that run the country and the Roman Catholic church. In the words of one of the Roman Senators I spoke with,

    "You must understand that in my country, the Mafia and the government and the Vatican are all the same people, and they really have only one concern: protecting their assets."

    Bertone, or whoever from the ranks of his victorious faction does assume the papal tiria, cannot be expected to do much but maintain the assets and security of the church, and that means continuing the policies of silence and dissimulation that keeps the cash flowing. But their position is more difficult now in the wake of the enormous rifts developing within the wider church, where Cardinals are facing criminal prosecution for shielding child rapists, and talk of disaffiliating from Rome is widespread among Irish, American and German Bishops.

    "We have all the grounds for a second Reformation now. That's how serious is the crisis. The church will either rid itself of itself or face collapse" said an Italian media commentator recently.

    It was easy to despise Joseph Ratzinger: the Hitler Youth raised, reactionary bigot who sacked liberal and independent thinkers in his church as the Cardinal-head of the Vatican Inquisition, and who told American Bishops that purgatory awaited any of them who did not cover up priestly child rape. Even among fellow Cardinals, he was known as "Joe the Rat".

    But Ratzinger was a made to order object of hatred, and put there to play out the oldest game in politics: the venting of popular rage on a disposable figurehead so that the institution itself could proceed unscathed.

    I doubt that it's totally coincidental that Ratzinger was forced out of office so quickly barely ten days after our Common Law court published online hard evidence of the Pope's involvement in crimes against humanity. Any new Pope will face the same charges, of colluding in a massive criminal conspiracy.

    But the real issue is not who or what will replace Joseph Ratzinger as the latest figurehead, but how to displace the Vatican itself as a criminal power unto itself. And that struggle is just commencing.
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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Davids first responce no doubt he will have more to say..LOL!!

    Pope in shock resignation
    Monday, 11 February 2013 14:43
    Posted by David Icke
    Pope Benedict XVI is to resign at the end of this month after nearly eight years as
    the head of the Catholic Church, saying he is too old to continue at the age of 85.
    There will be a lot more to know that's for sure - there always is.

    Pity, I always liked his eyes - did you, children?
    Read more...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304
    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...ck-resignation
    I know it's not fair to do too much "face reading" without proper context but that is bloody scary just to look at...
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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    I merged apokalypse's thread Pope Benedict XVI resigns!! so we can keep the discussion in one place. : )

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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    No, popes are outdated now ...

    Enter the new age of iPope

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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    http://now.msn.com/pope-benedict-res...iracy-theories
    "Several hours have passed since Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation, which means it's time for conspiracy theories to start circulating" ..hmmm, they want us to believe what ever in front of us. if there's no many manipulate or lies and there will be no so called Conspiracy.

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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    Resignation stated April 8 2012

    Published on 13 Apr 2012
    READ INFO FOR TRANSLATION:
    At 1:00 on the time line, you can see a major candidate for the Pope's position when the current Pope resigns, which is reported to be VERY soon.

    His name is 'Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone'



    Published on 13 Apr 2012
    READ INFO FOR TRANSLATION:
    At 1:00 on the time line, you can see a major candidate for the Pope's position when the current Pope resigns, which is reported to be VERY soon.

    His name is 'Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone'




    Pietro = Peter
    Born in Romano Canavese, Italy = Roman
    Peter the Roman

    At 3:40 on the time line, you hear the Quirerboy sing (Yes I called him a quirerboy because they.... never mind)

    Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
    ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
    Christus Fílius tuus,
    qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
    et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum.

    Which translates:

    Flaming Lucifer finds Mankind,
    I say: Oh Lucifer who will never be defeated,
    Christ is your son
    who came back from hell, shed his peaceful light and is alive and reigns in the world without end.

    Interesting and shocking as this is. There is reports that the Vatican has a Telescope in Arizona called "Lucifer", coincidence?? I think not.

    http://asacredmemory.com/blog/?p=220
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4_cqea...
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_GCEl1...
    (At 5:35 of Part 2 of the Documentary they call the Telescope Lucifer)

    http://www.scribd.com/halojumper63/d/...
    Quote from this Article: "And yes," according to Popular Science, "it's named for the Devil, whose name itself means "morning star."

    Isaiah 5:20-21
    20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
    21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

    Revelation 17:1-5
    1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, "Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
    2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
    3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
    4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

    Petrus Romanus is ready to take the religious seat of the New World Order, and he (The False Prophet) will usher in the Antichrist. World War 3 is upon us. All the nations have their fingers on the Trigger. YOU KNOW THIS. BE READY ! ! !
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    what's with this negativity prophecy? if he indeed is the guy Peter the Roman and prophet came true then the real issue is us not them, because we as human on planet earth gave our power away. They(TPTB-Controllers..call it who ever you want) do their thing to control humanity and us as 99% not doing our thing but to follow.

    i'm tired of predictions and prophets... the whole bloody bible is manipulated and rewritten.

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    Chech this out pretty funny if you ask me! The Pope resigns a a few hours later Lightning Strikes the Vatican!

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    Ok - If they HAVE to have another pope [and, a last one, too],
    nobody than this guy here would be a better fit for the job [imo]:

    Inauguration with this soundtrack: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post634553

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    All the great prophecies of the past and natural and artificial signs of the present point to big changes happening soon. They are quite coherent and what is going to happen is almost anticipated. We are given more than enough warnings.

    The Pope’s stepping down is less than two months after 12.12.21. Isn’t it evident now that both the Mayan 2012 and St. Malachy’s prophecies are correct?

    Very few prophecies tell you the time, but these two are very good time markers: the Mayan’s is on a macro scale while the Malachy 112 prophecy is on a micro scale.
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    Here is Dr. Joseph P. Farrell 's take on this story :

    Interestingly enough, there is only one motto left, the “final Pope,” who is called by Malachy Petrus Romanus who is supposed to feed his sheep amongst great tribulation. The apocalyptic overtones are obvious.

    So why am I bothering you with a mediaeval Irish bishop’s prophecy? Well, for one thing, Benedict’s resignation, I strongly suspect, did not come about on its own, so to speak. In the Byzantine backstabbing ways of ecclesiastical politics, I strongly suspect, though I have no evidence, that Benedict was pressured – blackmailed – into resignation for his part in the “affair of the affairs” so to speak. That’s one possibility…

    The other possibility, lurking in the background, is it’s easy to “fulfill” prophecy when (1) you create the prophecy and (2) control the interpretation of it, and (3) are on a timetable for the “clash of civilizations.” If that’s on the apocalypse menu, then having “Petrus Romanus” around might help set the stage a bit.

    And that, really, is the final point: it’s theater…. for the moment. But if the new pope chooses the name Peter, then it might be time to start worrying just a little….

    See you on the flip side.

    http://gizadeathstar.com/2013/02/fla...-of-ratzinger/

    Joseph P. Farrell was interviewed by Bill & Kerry in 2009.
    http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/jos...script_en.html

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    What are the odds huh??????

    Lightning hits St Peter's hours after Pope Benedict stuns cardinals with first resignation in 600 years
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-carry-on.html

    Sigh, I told them a zillion times, dont piss off Nicola, but did they listen, nooopeeeee.

    No doubt that lightning strike image will be sold to the believers as a sign from ............?

    I say its Strangels playing the Haarp, if it isnt photoshop, any livecams on the Vatican?
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    ONE MORE>>>>>>>>>>>>

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    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Davids first responce no doubt he will have more to say..LOL!!

    Pope in shock resignation
    Monday, 11 February 2013 14:43
    Posted by David Icke
    Pope Benedict XVI is to resign at the end of this month after nearly eight years as
    the head of the Catholic Church, saying he is too old to continue at the age of 85.
    There will be a lot more to know that's for sure - there always is.

    Pity, I always liked his eyes - did you, children?
    Read more...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304
    http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...ck-resignation
    I know it's not fair to do too much "face reading" without proper context but that is bloody scary just to look at...

    I think it might be possible to see if someone is evil in someones face, thoughts of hate can change a persons demeanor over time, just like the tests done on water our attitudes also influence our cells and all matter around us. So if looks say anything he must be very evil.

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    I thought that lightening was coming FROM the building - not the other way round.

    Just WHO does the pope "resign" to?

    I say watch the Black Pope - dont they change at the same time?

    I thought this was a teeny bit funny - I may have overstepped the language barrier tho....sorry


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    Quote Posted by 778 neighbour of some guy (here)
    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    What are the odds huh??????

    Lightning hits St Peter's hours after Pope Benedict stuns cardinals with first resignation in 600 years
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-carry-on.html

    Sigh, I told them a zillion times, dont piss off Nicola, but did they listen, nooopeeeee.

    No doubt that lightning strike image will be sold to the believers as a sign from ............?

    I say its Strangels playing the Haarp, the great Divine Defribilator, whatever, if it isnt photoshop, any livecams on the Vatican?
    http://www.camvista.com/europe/italy...ers-square-web...

    Maybe we will get lucky and see the next strike live.

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    Default Re: Pope Benedict Leaves Papacy, 28th February 2013

    Fathr Jack Could have been Pope !!





    One of the funniest/silliest sitcoms ever and charactures the Catholic church
    to a 'T' imo..LOL

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