blue kachina visible ?

[Dick]

This is an interresting article i read today about the vissibilaty of the so called blue kachina.
When this showed itself, the red kachina is on his way.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2013/03/18

Dick.

[greybeard]

Hi Dick the link only works for members.
Thanks though because of your post I found this U tube
Chris

ps Marshal Masters talk begins 38 minutes into the program

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=n6-DhgzkP0c

[Mulder]

From: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2013/03/18
"Author and publisher Marshall Masters specializes in Planet X and ancient civilizations. He discussed evidence for an object on the other side of the sun, which could be Planet X, and how this ties in with Hopi and other types of prophecy, as well as ancient texts including the Kolbrin Bible. He also related his research to that of the late Zecharia Sitchin known for his '12th Planet' theory, and a US Naval Observatory astronomer named Robert Harrington, who died suddenly after coming forward with information about possibly sighting Planet X. The Kolbrin Bible contains an allegory about how a celestial body flies by Earth, creating a large amount of volcanic activity, and leads to the destruction of Atlantis, Masters detailed. The so-called Lost Book of Nostradamus includes a prophecy about a harbinger of doom that will appear in the constellation of Ophiuchus, he continued.

Masters believes that an "object of interest" captured in webcam photos of the Turrialba Volcano in Costa Rica is possibly a harbinger to the arrival of Planet X. He nicknamed the object "Bluebonnet" because of its bluish color and said that it appears before sunset near the ecliptic of the sun. Bluebonnet, he reported, may be planet-sized but can only be observed from high altitudes above the cloud cover during certain times of the day, such as sunset. He further suggested that this object could be the Blue Kachina prophesied by the Hopi that will be followed by a far more destructive Red Kachina. View a related video Masters shared with us.

The topic of Planet X keeps coming back because it's the only thing that explains all the extreme climate changes we've been undergoing, he contended, adding that he's concerned about seabeds rising and falling, and undersea volcanism. While Planet X won't hit the Earth, the biggest problem will be its interaction with our sun-- we may see catastrophic earth changes such as the pole shift that Edgar Cayce predicted, Masters warned. Further, he believes Planet X could be arriving this year. "2012 was the warm-up band, and 2013 is the headline act," he commented."

There is SO MUCH wrong with this statement, I don't know where to begin. E.g. Zecharia Sitchin said Planet X's orbit will take 100s of years from now to appear near the Earth. The author seems to be throwing well known names in here to give his essay support, but if we actually read their work e.g. Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, etc. we see their work is up for interpretation and doesn't actually say "Planet X is coming in 2013, or any other year this decade.

[Lifebringer]

As a human with native american roots, I have followed this prophecy. The Hopi are said to have been taken to Plieades during one of the cataclysmic passings/crossings and returned. The ancestors have passed this down for centuries that their hope planet is Plieades. I guess we are in a very, very interesting and blessed time, eh?

Godspeed everyone on evolving to what the Creator has planned.

[Dick]

I read about the skyview team, and today i popped up on this story of the blue kachina, and it's interesting to see how the story's match.

Dick.

[Mandala]

Hi Dick, I started another thread a week ago about the same thing. Several members commented that it didn't ring true to them. I followed up with the video of Marshall saying he had over 1400 images from different sources that had seen the astral body near the Turrialba volcano in Costa Rica. Marshall was saying that he was on C2C on the 18th of March.

Thanks greybeard for posting the video. I look forward to listening. At this point I'm not discounting anything. I want to see and hear everything out there.

Thanks,


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Volcanic-Feed

[Dick]

Sorry, didn't see your post, but same for me, verry curious how this works out.
If we can see the objects in june, like the skyvieuwteam predict, it is very interesting how it will work out.

Dick.

[ulli]

Not sending any more energy to this silly story. Still feeling bad for investing several months in Nacy Lieder's Zetatalks 11 years ago.
Here is a website where a camera on the edge of the Turrialba crater captures a fresh image every 10 seconds.
Any unusual white blobs are lens flares.

http://www.ovsicori.una.ac.cr/index....=article&id=43

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

When are you going to understand that, if there´s such an object close to Earth, in outer space, it would be visible from almost anywhere in the planet, not only from a single place somewhere.

Thousands of amateur astronomers would have observed and reported, if something of that magnitude was there.

Do you understand it?

As for "The topic of Planet X keeps coming back because it's the only thing that explains all the extreme climate changes we've been undergoing...", as written on the interview page, well... First, the term "Planet X" was invented by a charlatan and completely delusional woman, Nancy Lieder. Second, there are thousands of things that could be causing climate change (Planet X is not one of them).

[Mu2143]

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[Sidney]

I think there is plenty of proof, youtube and otherwise that there is something they are covering up. The chemtrailing has been off the charts in the last 9 months. We only see the sun one day a week, and thats a small part of a day. If anyone cannot see this, then its because you don't want to see it. Open your eyes people and see what is right in front of you.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
I think there is plenty of proof, youtube and otherwise that there is something they are covering up. The chemtrailing has been off the charts in the last 9 months. We only see the sun one day a week, and thats a small part of a day. If anyone cannot see this, then its because you don't want to see it. Open your eyes people and see what is right in front of you.

Well, speak for yourself, my friend. Chemtrails are not a common occurrence in many parts of the world, including my own country, besides, there´s no reason why the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers spread all over the world wouldn´t be able to observe such object if it was out there in the observable outer space.

As for using youtube videos as proof, just show me one Nibiru/Planet X video that hasn´t been definitively refuted. There isn´t any.

No matter where you are, if you can look at the sky and see the stars at night, you would be able to observe such object as well, if it was as close as some people claim it to be.

This whole Planet X/Nibiru/Blue or Red Kashina is nothing but a myth. You can choose to believe it but as far as proof goes, there´s no evidence that there is an object with such attributed prophetic and mythological value out there.

[Sidney]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
I think there is plenty of proof, youtube and otherwise that there is something they are covering up. The chemtrailing has been off the charts in the last 9 months. We only see the sun one day a week, and thats a small part of a day. If anyone cannot see this, then its because you don't want to see it. Open your eyes people and see what is right in front of you.

Well, speak for yourself, my friend. Chemtrails are not a common occurrence in many parts of the world, including my own country, besides, there´s no reason why the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers spread all over the world wouldn´t be able to observe such object if it was out there in the observable outer space.

As for using youtube videos as proof, just show me one Nibiru/Planet X video that hasn´t been definitively refuted. There isn´t any.

No matter where you are, if you can look at the sky and see the stars at night, you would be able to observe such object as well, if it was as close as some people claim it to be.

This whole Planet X/Nibiru/Blue or Red Kashina is nothing but a myth. You can choose to believe it but as far as proof goes, there´s no evidence that there is an object with such attributed prophetic and mythological value out there.

I am not exactly saying that "it's" nibiru or planet X. But for the last 15 years of witnessing the chemtrailing, it is clear to me (and many others) that they are covering up SOMETHING. I have seen with my own eyes, the celestial body that is next to the sun. It is only visible at certain times, from certain locations. The variables being time of day, time of week, time of month, time of year, and the weather conditions. It has been photographed and filmed thousands of times, from various sources, professional and non professionals. Like I said, I have seen it. Nasa and other agencies deny there is anything there. I am not blind, and have no visual or brain deficits. I believe what I see with my eyes, and not what I read in the mainstream news outlets. There is plenty of real evidence, from credible people. I am not a prophecy follower. But I have been around long enough that I know whats natural and whats not. The sun used to be half the size (from earths perspective), and it used to be yellow, and never until the last couple years have I seen it with a little companion sitting and setting next to it. I have seen it. I am not making money by saying this in fact I do nothing but potentially endanger myself by speaking the truth. I am telling you something STINKS, and TPTB don't have enough room spray anymore to cover up the stench.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
I think there is plenty of proof, youtube and otherwise that there is something they are covering up. The chemtrailing has been off the charts in the last 9 months. We only see the sun one day a week, and thats a small part of a day. If anyone cannot see this, then its because you don't want to see it. Open your eyes people and see what is right in front of you.

Well, speak for yourself, my friend. Chemtrails are not a common occurrence in many parts of the world, including my own country, besides, there´s no reason why the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers spread all over the world wouldn´t be able to observe such object if it was out there in the observable outer space.

As for using youtube videos as proof, just show me one Nibiru/Planet X video that hasn´t been definitively refuted. There isn´t any.

No matter where you are, if you can look at the sky and see the stars at night, you would be able to observe such object as well, if it was as close as some people claim it to be.

This whole Planet X/Nibiru/Blue or Red Kashina is nothing but a myth. You can choose to believe it but as far as proof goes, there´s no evidence that there is an object with such attributed prophetic and mythological value out there.

I am not exactly saying that "it's" nibiru or planet X. But for the last 15 years of witnessing the chemtrailing, it is clear to me (and many others) that they are covering up SOMETHING. I have seen with my own eyes, the celestial body that is next to the sun. It is only visible at certain times, from certain locations. The variables being time of day, time of week, time of month, time of year, and the weather conditions. It has been photographed and filmed thousands of times, from various sources, professional and non professionals. Like I said, I have seen it. Nasa and other agencies deny there is anything there. I am not blind, and have no visual or brain deficits. I believe what I see with my eyes, and not what I read in the mainstream news outlets. There is plenty of real evidence, from credible people. I am not a prophecy follower. But I have been around long enough that I know whats natural and whats not. The sun used to be half the size (from earths perspective), and it used to be yellow, and never until the last couple years have I seen it with a little companion sitting and setting next to it. I have seen it. I am not making money by saying this in fact I do nothing but potentially endanger myself by speaking the truth. I am telling you something STINKS, and TPTB don't have enough room spray anymore to cover up the stench.

Hey mate,

With all due respect, if they sun doubled its size, or Earth got 50% closer to it, which would give the same perspective effect, there wouldn´t be any life on Earth right now because we would all be burned to death.

The truth is, we aren´t any closer to the sun and the sun didn´t grow any bigger. This is a measured indisputable fact.

As for this celestial body you saw, supposing you´re telling the truth as I believe you are, it´s much more likely to be a "sun dog" or a cosmological phenomena similar to the transit of Venus than a mysterious celestial body such as the one discussed here, for several reasons.

If such a massive object entered our solar system, it would kick all other planets out their orbits. We would be all dead by now. The astrophysical implications of such object entering our solar system would be tremendous.

Also, if you saw it from where you live, and I supposed you don´t live anywhere near the poles, millions of other people from all over the world would have seen it both during the day and at night, including all its arriving and departure trajectory. This, of course, supposing that its mass is very low, such as the one of a comet or asteroid, and not big enough cause major gravitational issues on Earth and other planets orbits.

Regarding chemtrails, it´s very unlikely that they are part of a program to obscure such alleged object; If it is, they are not doing a good job because, as far as I know, most people around the world can still see the sun and stars as usual.

Honestly, I´ve seen hundreds of pictures of this alleged celestial bodies; All of them were either optic phenomena like sun dogs or blatant hoaxes. If there´s "plenty of real evidence, from credible people" I haven´t seen them.

Anyway, to all of you who still believe this Nibiru/Planet X/Kachina nonsense, I highly recommend this documentary:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JgLLYWaKDUQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=f07FnSeQt3w

Raf.

[syrwong]

I believe the Hopi prophecy, and the blue Kachina is the comet we are seeing later this year. As for the red Kachina, it is probably years behind and most of us won't see it. Take measurement errors of 50 years into account. The latest year it last came would be 1550BC. Add the cycle of at most 3650 years, the lastest year it will come is 2100 AD. I take comfort in thinking its coming to be around 2050.

[Sidney]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
I think there is plenty of proof, youtube and otherwise that there is something they are covering up. The chemtrailing has been off the charts in the last 9 months. We only see the sun one day a week, and thats a small part of a day. If anyone cannot see this, then its because you don't want to see it. Open your eyes people and see what is right in front of you.

Well, speak for yourself, my friend. Chemtrails are not a common occurrence in many parts of the world, including my own country, besides, there´s no reason why the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers spread all over the world wouldn´t be able to observe such object if it was out there in the observable outer space.

As for using youtube videos as proof, just show me one Nibiru/Planet X video that hasn´t been definitively refuted. There isn´t any.

No matter where you are, if you can look at the sky and see the stars at night, you would be able to observe such object as well, if it was as close as some people claim it to be.

This whole Planet X/Nibiru/Blue or Red Kashina is nothing but a myth. You can choose to believe it but as far as proof goes, there´s no evidence that there is an object with such attributed prophetic and mythological value out there.

I am not exactly saying that "it's" nibiru or planet X. But for the last 15 years of witnessing the chemtrailing, it is clear to me (and many others) that they are covering up SOMETHING. I have seen with my own eyes, the celestial body that is next to the sun. It is only visible at certain times, from certain locations. The variables being time of day, time of week, time of month, time of year, and the weather conditions. It has been photographed and filmed thousands of times, from various sources, professional and non professionals. Like I said, I have seen it. Nasa and other agencies deny there is anything there. I am not blind, and have no visual or brain deficits. I believe what I see with my eyes, and not what I read in the mainstream news outlets. There is plenty of real evidence, from credible people. I am not a prophecy follower. But I have been around long enough that I know whats natural and whats not. The sun used to be half the size (from earths perspective), and it used to be yellow, and never until the last couple years have I seen it with a little companion sitting and setting next to it. I have seen it. I am not making money by saying this in fact I do nothing but potentially endanger myself by speaking the truth. I am telling you something STINKS, and TPTB don't have enough room spray anymore to cover up the stench.

Hey mate,

With all due respect, if they sun doubled its size, or Earth got 50% closer to it, which would give the same perspective effect, there wouldn´t be any life on Earth right now because we would all be burned to death.

The truth is, we aren´t any closer to the sun and the sun didn´t grow any bigger. This is a measured indisputable fact.

As for this celestial body you saw, supposing you´re telling the truth as I believe you are, it´s much more likely to be a "sun dog" or a cosmological phenomena similar to the transit of Venus than a mysterious celestial body such as the one discussed here, for several reasons.

If such a massive object entered our solar system, it would kick all other planets out their orbits. We would be all dead by now. The astrophysical implications of such object entering our solar system would be tremendous.

Also, if you saw it from where you live, and I supposed you don´t live anywhere near the poles, millions of other people from all over the world would have seen it both during the day and at night, including all its arriving and departure trajectory. This, of course, supposing that its mass is very low, such as the one of a comet or asteroid, and not big enough cause major gravitational issues on Earth and other planets orbits.

Regarding chemtrails, it´s very unlikely that they are part of a program to obscure such alleged object; If it is, they are not doing a good job because, as far as I know, most people around the world can still see the sun and stars as usual.

Honestly, I´ve seen hundreds of pictures of this alleged celestial bodies; All of them were either optic phenomena like sun dogs or blatant hoaxes. If there´s "plenty of real evidence, from credible people" I haven´t seen them.

Raf.

well, I do know what a sun dog is. And sundogs show up randomly, in various locations, depending upon the moisture in relative to the sun. I won't waste a lot of time on this, because its clear you have your mind made up, and thats ok, as I fully respect your decision, based on your experiences or lack of, perhaps you are not in a location where you would have the benefit of seeing this object, or the free time to spend looking.. I am not here to sway anyone, but to simply encourage others to do their own research, by sharing my personal experiences. I do not believe everything I see on YOUTOOB. : ) quite the contrary. But there are videos there that are true and authentic, many.
To correct my words of saying the sun used to be half the size, what I should have said is that the sun appears twice as big and twice a bright as it used to several years ago. This is not just an opinion of mine, but of many. SOMETHING, had made it appear this way. What it is, is still up for debate, but there is strong debate that it is a binary star/sun or brown dwarf, or something similar. Is it going to cause the end of the world, or an ELE event?? My personal opinion is , probably not, but i do think it is causing changes in the suns behavior, and in turn affects earthquake,volcanic, and whether on earth. I am talking on a scientific level, based on the research I have done on various sites, government owned, NASA, etc. and others. The photos on those sites have been doctored regularly, but there is so many things caught by their own cameras, that they cant delete them all quick enough, and many images get into the public eye un-retouched.
I also just want to be clear that I believe that the "thing" near the sun, is something quite different than either the red or blue kachina as discussed on this thread, so as not to derail it, i will not debate this subject here on this thread any further.

[Nerge]

Well I don't know about Planet X etc etc, but from my personal experience the sun has become brighter and seems to be more white in colour than yellow as I recall. I can't say when exactly I noticed this but it's definetly not as it used to be, in my opinion.

Just something else to bear in mind; I'm not saying the whole Planet X (or whatever the name is this week) is real, but, I'd also caution against ruling things out completely, purely based on current conventionally accepted physics and 'mainstream' accepted science. Given many of the topics this forum covers I'd expect many to be more open to possibilities that fall outside of conventional explanations and physics - we don't know it all - not even close.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Nerge (here)
Well I don't know about Planet X etc etc, but from my personal experience the sun has become brighter and seems to be more white in colour than yellow as I recall. I can't say when exactly I noticed this but it's definetly not as it used to be, in my opinion.

Just something else to bear in mind; I'm not saying the whole Planet X (or whatever the name is this week) is real, but, I'd also caution against ruling things out completely, purely based on current conventionally accepted physics and 'mainstream' accepted science. Given many of the topics this forum covers I'd expect many to be more open to possibilities that fall outside of conventional explanations and physics - we don't know it all - not even close.

No, no, no...There´s no mainstream or alternative science. There is science and pseudoscience.

Science follows the following method (pseudoscience jumps from hypothesis to conclusion without going through all stages of the proper scientific process):



Of course, some topics we often discuss around here are intangible, such as spirituality, therefore can´t be discussed scientifically because they are based on beliefs, faith.

However, some topics belong to science and must be discussed using scientific method; Nibiru/Planet X belongs to the field of astronomy/cosmology/astrophysics, and should be discussed as such.

So, I will say again. There´s zero/none/zilch evidence regarding Nibiru or similar concepts.

The term Planet X was coined by a mad woman that claims to talk with Zeta ETs. The current "alternative" meaning of Nibiru came from Zecharia Sitchin´s transliterations of the Sumerian tablets, which are notoriously flawed, according to all other ancient languages experts in the world. The Red and Blue Kashina is Hopi mythology.

All Nibiru "proof" available is nothing but recycled versions of things that were already cohesively refuted a thousand times.

Raf.

[Gardener]

Hey Dick and All
You might enjoy some of these Astrotheology presentations, called 'The Holy Science' very ancient knowledge of the 'Great Year' the 26,000 year cycle of precession Raf might call this pseudoscience but it is all observable. It suggests that Sirius is the suns companion, on a 26,000 year orbit, and that during this 26,000 year cycle Sirius up until the furthest point away the star appears red; and as it starts to come closer it becomes blue (the red or blue shift) depending on if it is moving away (red) or coming towards (blue). Maybe this is what the Hopi observed as the blue Kacnina. Everything is cyclical, even ice ages, and cometry impact

I love this stuff, makes so much sense.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=b2luC4AHmHE