Boston marathon bombings (was: Explosions at Boston marathon)

[Vitalux]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
Ok here is the "News" from Glenn Beck tonight... I am listening as I post this... (I am not a big Glenn Beck fan however respect his research). I am just the messenger of more pieces of the puzzle....


Glenn Beck Breaks Exclusive Information On Saudi National

I have not been this confused at watching this...

So this was the ultra big secrete that was going to spring American's into affirmative action

blame it on the brown people again?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Vitalux (here)
If the bomb was beside the mail box then how come there is no damage to the mail box, one would think it would have been damaged or something

Obviously it's a bomb proof mailbox painted with shrapnel proof paint

[Spix]

In my mind it's either a cover up for something.

[Hervé]

Posted by Vitalux (here)
If the bomb was beside the mail box

then how come there is no damage to the mail box, one would think it would have been damaged or something

... errr... I guess the bomb was only designed to maim people... not to pierce through armored vehicles... didn't even seem to have affected the tree much... (see post # 494 <--- )

Hence the experts' assumption of low velocity explosives having been used to make these bombs.

Again, according to the "pros" in the field (see previous posts somewhere way back), these were shaped-charge devices designed by other "pros" to have a main horizontal vector and a very little vertical one and, most probably, also having a very definite directional sector within that horizontal component.

[Spix]

With the trigger vest. As was shown that the three men that did have the backpacks, they would show a lot of suspicious clues, maybe a trigger bomb with those men in some areas.

[gigha]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.

Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. ... He lost both legs below the knee. "He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me'," Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview. ...

While still in intensive care, Jeff Bauman gave the FBI a description of the man he saw, his brother said. Bauman’s information helped investigators narrow down whom to look for in hours of video of the attack, he said.

All right...

... Jeff...

... here:

Guy holding his cowboy hat in his hand and who helped wheel Jeff out being nearby...

... blast...

... well ... way over there:

... is there something wrong with the painted picture in the quote above?

Makes me wonder what was told and shown to him while he was in anesthetic dream land? You know... MKultra type of conditioning of a credible witness...

Just skimming this thread again from the start and I have a question about this Jeff Bauman guy. I noticed in this post by Amzer Zo the first photo shows Jeff behind the woman in the red and black top not very far from her.
Behind her is a woman being attended to by someone in a yellow top, in front of her is also a very big orange bag.

In the second image the bag is gone there is no sign of Jeff, instead there is a woman in dark pants a bloodied white top. The woman in the red and black top has virtually not moved. There is probably more.

Thanks Amzer Zo for the earlier reply, it helped fill in a couple of things I hope, there is so much to try and take in.

gigha

[Referee]

Big Slip by Boston PD... Calls The brothers Actors

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4khUbXc5oGs

[turiya]

I am sure that most of you have heard of "Crisis Actors".... now get ready for...

Battlefield: Amputee ACTORS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lFcKcFWCM5Y

turiya

[Vitalux]

Posted by Referee (here)
Big Slip by Boston PD... Calls The brothers Actors

Source (GOD) works in mysterious ways now don't it

[JohnEAngel]

having watched a hundred or more episodes of Cops and other similar shows it seems that i have heard them (police) speaking of certain individuals who had alledgedly committed an offense, as actors, but i could be wrong.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Referee (here)
Big Slip by Boston PD... Calls The brothers Actors

That's an ambiguous slip, in my estimation. The word "actors" also has some more innocuous meanings, such as "persons doing some action". Given that this is a successful bureaucrat speaking, such convoluted use of terms might be his normal way of talking in such situations.

[Hervé]

Posted by gigha (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.

Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. ... He lost both legs below the knee. "He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me'," Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview. ...

While still in intensive care, Jeff Bauman gave the FBI a description of the man he saw, his brother said. Bauman’s information helped investigators narrow down whom to look for in hours of video of the attack, he said.

All right...

... Jeff...

... here:

[...]

... blast...

... well ... way over there:

... is there something wrong with the painted picture in the quote above?

Makes me wonder what was told and shown to him while he was in anesthetic dream land? You know... MKultra type of conditioning of a credible witness...

Just skimming this thread again from the start and I have a question about this Jeff Bauman guy. I noticed in this post by Amzer Zo the first photo shows Jeff behind the woman in the red and black top not very far from her.
Behind her is a woman being attended to by someone in a yellow top, in front of her is also a very big orange bag.

In the second image the bag is gone there is no sign of Jeff, instead there is a woman in dark pants a bloodied white top. The woman in the red and black top has virtually not moved. There is probably more.

Thanks Amzer Zo for the earlier reply, it helped fill in a couple of things I hope, there is so much to try and take in.

gigha

My point was that Jeff Bauman was located way away from the blast spot to have had someone drop a bag full of explosives at his feet.

I am not sure what you are trying to convey but if you have an idea, why not fluff it up with some evidence?

Personally, I can put up a sequence that satisfies all the so-called discrepancies but I have no evidence that it's also a valid time sequence.

What's confusing are the different pictures from various angles of the scene; so, what I suggest is to take the pavement pattern as a frame of reference and from there one can unravel the puzzle.

[Hip Hipnotist]

Posted by JohnEAngel (here)
having watched a hundred or more episodes of Cops and other similar shows it seems that i have heard them (police) speaking of certain individuals who had alledgedly committed an offense, as actors, but i could be wrong.

If I may correct you:

The term used by most, if not all, law enforcement officers for a person involved in criminal activity is -- dirtbag.

Actor is way too dignified. Although there are some actors I'd call dirtbags. Like the ones who may have been involved in the topic at hand -- not to mention those that may have hired them.

[Vitalux]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Referee (here)
Big Slip by Boston PD... Calls The brothers Actors

That's an ambiguous slip, in my estimation. The word "actors" also has some more innocuous meanings, such as "persons doing some action". Given that this is a successful bureaucrat speaking, such convoluted use of terms might be his normal way of talking in such situations.

I have never seen this before with police referring to suspects, or perps, as actors

My father was a cop, and I never heard this term....for assailant

Perhaps with the thousands of hours of "Cops) or other Hollywood police shows, live news shows, etc, someone could find more examples in youtube blurts.

[gigha]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by gigha (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.

Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. ... He lost both legs below the knee. "He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, ‘bag, saw the guy, looked right at me'," Chris Bauman said yesterday in an interview. ...

While still in intensive care, Jeff Bauman gave the FBI a description of the man he saw, his brother said. Bauman’s information helped investigators narrow down whom to look for in hours of video of the attack, he said.

All right...

... Jeff...

... here:

[...]

... blast...

... well ... way over there:

... is there something wrong with the painted picture in the quote above?

Makes me wonder what was told and shown to him while he was in anesthetic dream land? You know... MKultra type of conditioning of a credible witness...

Just skimming this thread again from the start and I have a question about this Jeff Bauman guy. I noticed in this post by Amzer Zo the first photo shows Jeff behind the woman in the red and black top not very far from her.
Behind her is a woman being attended to by someone in a yellow top, in front of her is also a very big orange bag.

In the second image the bag is gone there is no sign of Jeff, instead there is a woman in dark pants a bloodied white top. The woman in the red and black top has virtually not moved. There is probably more.

Thanks Amzer Zo for the earlier reply, it helped fill in a couple of things I hope, there is so much to try and take in.

gigha

My point was that Jeff Bauman was located way away from the blast spot to have had someone drop a bag full of explosives at his feet.

I am not sure what you are trying to convey but if you have an idea, why not fluff it up with some evidence?

Personally, I can put up a sequence that satisfies all the so-called discrepancies but I have no evidence that it's also a valid time sequence.

What's confusing are the different pictures from various angles of the scene; so, what I suggest is to take the pavement pattern as a frame of reference and from there one can unravel the puzzle.

Hi Amzer Zo i guess i did miss your point.

I was only commenting on the discrepancies i noticed in the photos. What any of it means to me is still a mystery.

I had noticed the pavement and hope to do as you suggest.

gigha

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Vitalux (here)
I have never seen this before with police referring to suspects, or perps, as actors

I suspect that cops that rise to heads of large organizations, when talking to the media over a major news item of the day, talk differently than most cops, most of the time.

I'm not saying this wasn't a telling slip of the tongue; I'm just saying I've no clue and I can imagine it either way.

[InCiDeR]

I am curious what kind of bomb rips your clothes apart, but not leave a scratch anywhere on your body:



If that is the case, maybe that explains why the mail box didn't have a scratch either. On the other hand, the bomb was strong enough to cut through bones as it apparently did with one of the victims who lost his legs!?



Something is not adding up in this equation, or am I missing something?!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by InCiDeR (here)
Something is not adding up in this equation, or am I missing something?!

The injuries that I've seen were from the other bomb, closer to the finish line, that was set next to a building and the watching crowd.

This bomb next to the mailbox doesn't seem to have done as much damage. It apparently was on the other side of the fence from the people, and perhaps was weaker.

[SilentFeathers]

Check this out> it does make one wonder.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6wpfGbvwEEw

[InCiDeR]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by InCiDeR (here)
Something is not adding up in this equation, or am I missing something?!

The injuries that I've seen were from the other bomb, closer to the finish line, that was set next to a building and the watching crowd.

This bomb next to the mailbox doesn't seem to have done as much damage. It apparently was on the other side of the fence from the people, and perhaps was weaker.

Thank you Paul. Yes, I figured that might be the case. But then next question arise. From where did all injured people come from then? There weren't 180 injured people from the first bomb blast alone, meaning that the second blast must have caused some damage as well. According to some information, it actually caused more injuries than the first one. So, I still feel that the equation doesn't add up!

EDIT: I also wonder: if they put up so much effort to make two bombs... why make one of them much weaker than the other? If I was building two bombs I would do them exactly the same!