Barack Obama 2010

[Teakai]

Posted by JoshERTW (here)
I think the guy had good intentions when he got into office, and I still think he does - but I believe the system itself is so corrupt that even the so called "top" guy has very little power to elicit change. He did strike down the bill to allow banks to reposess houses they couldn't prove they held mortgages to, he has tried to implement some form of universal health care, albeit fairly scaled down, it certainly did help some people (I realize this is a contentious topic, but living in a country that has it, I would hate to have anything less).

What I'm trying to get at here, is he's not the most evil person in the world - I'm not claiming he's a saint either but I think the energy that the conspiracy movement is pouring into discrediting the guy is a bit of a waste - as you said, he's just a puppet - people would be better to focus on trying to expose the real men behind the curtain. Wasting energy on smearing Obama is just playing into their hands. Think of the alternative: McCain/Palin?

Would that be "better?" I can't see how it would. Is he worse than Bush/Cheney? I would certainly disagree with anyone who says he is. When I use the word decent, I am comparing him to the alternatives.

Oh, OK. So he's the best of an extremely degenerate bunch, then? :-D.

Personally, I don't think his behaviour has been decent at all. He's sold himself, for whatever reason. His actions have and are going to continue to harm his fellow man and play along with financially destroying the country.
Decent isn't a word I would use in regard to Obama.
IMO - if he were decent - he would come out with the truth, or he would step down from his position of puppet power.

What is evil? This could be the guy who drives the nail in the coffin of the free world.
When you think about what that entails - his doings could most certainly be put up there with the most evil actions of mankind.

This isn't meant to be any kind of Obama hate speech, I'm just dispassionatley stating things as I see them.

[observer]

It's time to pipe-in on the discussion, as a few of the members here on the forum still seem to be lost in the hypnosis of the 'Obama Spell".

In the early 1980's while still a student at Columbia University Obama met Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski was directing the anti-Russian institute at the time. Brzezinski has been 'sheep dipping' Obama ever since. Brzezinski was, and still is Obama's 'mentor'.

This is the real Obama, the 'man of good intentions' the nation has been lead to believe in.

It's all an hypnotic spell folks. It's all a lie....

http://www.rense.com/general81/abig.htm

As for Obama 'getting out of town'; I withhold my opinion until a later date....

[Rocky_Shorz]

I hate when politics get into discussions when everyone is tossing mud from he said she said...

a major riff in our community over an actor how sad...

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politic...trip.costs.cnn

I do like the reflections following him out to the chopper...

[Zook]

Hi Fifi,

Posted by fifi (here)
9 days, 4 countries.

9 days; 4 countries; 1 constitutionally-illegitimate president ...

3-squared; 2-squared; 1-squared ...

Yipes!! A pattern! Run for the hills!



ps: Well ... it's 30 minutes to 5:04 ET. It's going to be an event or a misdirect.


ps2: Well ... EDT went by without too much incident ... next time zone CDT ... 5:04pm CDT

[jackovesk]

Posted by JoshERTW (here)

Also, I think Obama is a decent bloke.

I really DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY?

Please would Someone/Anyone educate this it!

How in HELL did YOU get approved for this site..?

[truthseekerdan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4UiGYbkt1t0

DOCUMENT OBTAINED IN KENYA SENT TO EVERY MEMBER OF U.S. CONGRESS

(Sept. 5, 2010) — Lucas Daniel Smith has just completed a mailing to each member of Congress a copy of a document which he stated is a certified copy of the original birth certificate of Barack Hussein Obama II showing that Obama was born in Kenya, Africa. Each birth certificate copy was sent with a seven-page, individually-notarized letter by certified mail. The project was completed on August 31, 2010.

Smith said that he obtained the document from the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya in February 2009. The document became part of a lawsuit filed by Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq., in California which was denied a hearing in October 2009 by Judge David O. Carter.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4UiGYbkt1t0

[Zook]

Posted by zookumar (here)
Hi Fifi,
9 days; 4 countries; 1 constitutionally-illegitimate president ...
3-squared; 2-squared; 1-squared ...
Yipes!! A pattern! Run for the hills!

ps: Well ... it's 30 minutes to 5:04 ET. It's going to be an event or a misdirect.
ps2: Well ... EDT went by without too much incident ... next time zone CDT ... 5:04pm CDT

This is good news, folks ... just one more time zone left after Mountain Time ... 5:04pm MDT our next target.

Mea culpa. Forgot Alaska. Everybody forgets Alaska. And why shouldn't they? I mean, what has Alaska done for us, lately?
Two time zones then: PDT and AKDT (Hawaii observes HADT which is the same as AKDT, I believe)



ps: Maybe I can get a job as a play-by-play announcer for False Flags, Alarms, And KeepingYouOnYourToes Inc. (when all is said and done)?

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by zookumar (here)
This is good news, folks ... just one more time zone left after Mountain Time ... 5:04pm MDT our next target.

No worries Zook, the eVeNt was averted by the Higher Powers!

Hooray!

[Redtailhawk]

I just read this informative article: http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/11...ign-of-terror/

Apparently a lot of White House insiders (many Democrats) are coming forward with their negative perceptions of Obama.

The article says that ex-CIA are combing the planet right now coming up with documentation of BO's past that they don't already have. It is expected that some of these documents with be leaked while he is out of the country. If this is true than the you know what is about to hit the fan. If it is revealed that BO has snowed the world we are all in for a bumpy ride. All his BS he has signed into law will be null and void. America will be turned upside down.

Tick tock.

[truthseekerdan]

Here's a funny pic...

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

A Birth Certificate produced in August 2009 which purportedly documented that Barack Obama was born in Kenya was quickly revealed to be a forgery

this was proven false over a year ago, don't you guys ever do any research into what you are posting?

absolutely incredible...

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp



this was proven false over a year ago, don't you guys ever do any research into what you are posting?

absolutely incredible...

Sure Rocky, your research is a class act...

I for one believe that rumors are truer than lies.

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U-UZngRwPgI

November 6 - Today - it's Hindu New Year.

[Teakai]

Posted by zookumar (here)
This is good news, folks ... just one more time zone left after Mountain Time ... 5:04pm MDT our next target.

Mea culpa. Forgot Alaska. Everybody forgets Alaska. And why shouldn't they? I mean, what has Alaska done for us, lately?
Two time zones then: PDT and AKDT (Hawaii observes HADT which is the same as AKDT, I believe)



ps: Maybe I can get a job as a play-by-play announcer for False Flags, Alarms, And KeepingYouOnYourToes Inc. (when all is said and done)?

So...how's it going, Zook?
Time for an update.

You're not out fishing are you????

[fifi]

Apparently a lot of White House insiders (many Democrats) are coming forward with their negative perceptions of Obama.

The article says that ex-CIA are combing the planet right now coming up with documentation of BO's past that they don't already have. It is expected that some of these documents with be leaked while he is out of the country.

If Obama really works for the PTB, why would White House insiders & ex-CIA be against him? He might be born outside US, and the PTB would use that to keep him in line. When they can no longer control him, and want to get rid of him, they can use this card to have him replaced with someone easier to control, like Bush.

[JoshERTW]

Posted by fifi (here)
If Obama really works for the PTB, why would White House insiders & ex-CIA be against him? He might be born outside US, and the PTB would use that to keep him in line. When they can no longer control him, and want to get rid of him, they can use this card to have him replaced with someone easier to control, like Bush.

Thank you fifi, This is EXACTLY why all this "Obama is evil" stuff doesn't resonate with me. It feels like disinfo. As I understand, they tried to use similar smear tactics against JFK (though they didn't have the internetz to help spread it quickly, widely and to specific sectors of society i.e. conspiracy theorists). When those tactics didn't work, they took him out.

[Etherios]

after seeing that video i got the feeling that MAYBE the next thing that will be really handy for all is an attack on Obama in india... imagine this for a sec. Even if he isnt killed (i think its better this way) they can blame anyone they want for this... they can even declare Martial law in USA and war on the "enemy" they want ... Iran maybe? They will manage to gather up most of the USA public and FULLY disctract them from their real problems ...

Damn i wish i am totally off...

[Redtailhawk]

Posted by fifi (here)
If Obama really works for the PTB, why would White House insiders & ex-CIA be against him? He might be born outside US, and the PTB would use that to keep him in line. When they can no longer control him, and want to get rid of him, they can use this card to have him replaced with someone easier to control, like Bush.

Because there are different factions of the PTB, obviously not all in agreement.

[Redtailhawk]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp



this was proven false over a year ago, don't you guys ever do any research into what you are posting?

absolutely incredible...

Yes I have done extensive research. Snopes and FactCheck are 2 sites that were espousing the COLB of BO to be the real deal which has been proven to be a forgery by several experts. Additionally, BO his 1st act in office was to sign an executive order 13489....why with all the issues going on in the world would Obama make this his #1 priority unless he had something to cover-up? THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release January 21, 2009

EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 - - - - - - -

PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

(a) "Archivist" refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee. (b) "NARA" refers to the National Archives and Records Administration.

(c) "Presidential Records Act" refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207.

(d) "NARA regulations" refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270.

(e) "Presidential records" refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.

(f) "Former President" refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created.

(g) A "substantial question of executive privilege" exists if NARA's disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch.

(h) A "final court order" is a court order from which no appeal may be taken.

Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records. (a) When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines provided by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege. However, nothing in this order is intended to affect the right of the incumbent or former Presidents to invoke executive privilege with respect to materials not identified by the Archivist. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative. (b) Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice.

Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President. (a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

(b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination.

(c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.

(d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.

Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President. (a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist's determination as to whether to honor the former President's claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist's determination with respect to the former President's claim of privilege.

(b) In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE, January 21, 2009.

[Zook]

Good morning, Fifi ... the Earth says hello ...

Posted by fifi (here)
If Obama really works for the PTB, why would White House insiders & ex-CIA be against him? He might be born outside US, and the PTB would use that to keep him in line. When they can no longer control him, and want to get rid of him, they can use this card to have him replaced with someone easier to control, like Bush.

Why did TPTB get rid of Saddam after he'd long been to useful for them? Hitler? Any of the assassinated US presidents?
Quick ans: Usefulness vs being no longer useful.

Obama is simply a puppet. The puppeteers install puppets; and when TPTB's agenda moves in a different direction, they replace the puppets. Obama's ratings have plummeted from the time he took office. He is moving into the dreaded puppet area of being no longer useful. Rumors of lavish $200 million/day trip expenditures are certainly not going to endear him to the masses when he returns home; these rumors will persist because, whatever the actually price tag is, it won't be much better as a political number than the rumored tag. If the actual tag is $50 million daily or even $25 million (a reasonable estimate based on the increased amount of people and on past presidential trips) ... that will still be seen as grossly exorbitant in a time of promoted austerity. The $200 million number, at least, gives him the rumor shield to duck behind.

With such low popularity back home, the India trip stands to give Obama a boost in global popularity (from the smart but sickeningly dumbed-down Indian student masses). But since we are heading towards a global order and one world charter, he may no longer care about home-based popularity. Now, if TPTB are not yet ready to implement the NWO, then they would still need some degree of support from the American population ... can you think of anyone better to offer as a sacrifical lamb?

MHO, OC.



ps: Also remember, now that the American people have gotten used to a foreign-born president, the neoNazi iron pumping firm of Arnold, Schwarz and Edgar ... is standing by to take over. Ever see Schwarzennegger, Buffet, and a Rothschild spawn chumming it up on a Rothschildean country estate? No? Well take a look at this:

http://www.nowpublic.com/warren_buff...cob_rothschild