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    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    It takes a government document to get people that are asleep to take UFO's as real ...Thats the sad sad truth... they must hear it from government and see it on CNN ...ohhhh now it's real, now we believe ... those crazy UFO people were telling the truth ...
    Sad indeed, but not so strange when you look at the way we raise our kids.

    We talk to them as if they are babies and children in a baby and child like way.
    We present ourselves as all knowing and in a paternalistic way.
    This process is then duplicated when they go to school and later on when they become adults, the government is taking over the role as all knowing paternalistic parent, and the adults become the children who are told what to think and what to believe and they can't help themselves, because they are used being treated like this from day one when they entered this life.
    We are being brainwashed to act as unknowing children who cannot decide for themselves what is true and what is not and we brainwash our children to become like us.



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    This hearing is getting more interesting bye the day

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    Maybe people aren’t really talking about it because they are doing more important/meaningful things.

    IMO, this sought of Interest needs to come with tangible evidence, not regurgitated testimonies from strangers. I’ve watch some of the stuff but found nothing of real importance, nothing to be excited about because it’s all hear say. Anyone can drum up a fictional story and make it sound real. Humanity is in a mess up situation now because the majority of people in this world are blind followers… often following and putting great faith in those they know nothing about previously. For me to believe any of this these people will have to produce actual aliens or their technologies, I mean, why is that so freaking hard? For all I/we know this event could be an elaborate presentation cleverly designed to speed up some wicked indoctrination. If there is no evidence then there is most likely an agenda to create a mind set that will aid in masking and pulling off a false flag event. To not even consider this is too be a fully conditioned follower or as some like to say “sheep”.

    Seriously thou, REAL TALK, No one here has ever been outer space and I find it very odd how people seem to have no problem talking about something “far fetch” as if it is factual…yet have no real experience or firsthand knowledge of what they are so desperately attempting to get others to believe in. smh.

    A sheep is defined as a person who is blindly lead and never uses his/her own insight or seek proof that will aid in their journeys. Remember back in the day many people thought the world was flat and many people also died over that very belief. What makes this alien hype any different? What human has ever traveled to another world? Where does all of our knowledge of the cosmos come from? Hmmm.

    I have more consideration for the ideas that there are agents all over the place pulling out all the stops in hope of programming the masses with lies…possibly to get humanity to open up dimensions/portals that will allow E.D. entities to enter our realm due to the thorough conditioning place upon the human mind (We create what we think). Or, the governments are seeking to collapse the economies around the world and will use this alien false flag to aid them in tricking the populace into disarming themselves and becoming total obedient slaves. Maybe the governments are using technology and false aliens so they can abduct and experiment on people so they don’t have to get your legal consent. Can you prove that I’m wrong in these assumptions?

    These accusations are no more plausible or ridiculous than everything else mentioned on the subject. If you can’t prove it wrong or right then why even bother, seriously? If it’s not in your power to recognize the truth and use that truth in ANY way then you are just wasting your time, the next thing to do is ask yourself “Why Am I wasting my time with this”, or are you being programmed to overlook that too??

    We create what we focus on, so why are we so focus on something that has yet to display any importance. If E.T. is out there we/humans really need to get our sh!t together and stop worshipping/praising/giving our attention to things that don’t matter at that moment. Having an alien race/s visit us in our current state is not going to go well for any of us. And the suffering that will inevitably follow will be exactly what we deserve. No alien race is going to save/help a race that is too afraid/lazy to help themselves. No alien race is going to help a race that finds comfort in making excuses, no alien race is going to help/save a race of beings that are knowingly destrioying their own world and instead of brainstorming on ways to remedy the immediate threats we’re bring on self we look up in the skies and cry for help. Who/ what intelligent off world specie is going to help such a being?

    It’s not like I don’t find the idea of life elsewhere fascinating, I’m just aware of the fact that people like to lie and trick people. One of the biggest problems the masses have is thinking for themselves, and demanding proof before committing themselves to something that has no substance to grasp onto. When this event starts producing anything other than documents and verbalism that’s when I’ll start to show some real interest. Until then…none of this is important in any way, shape or form. It has the potential to be more dangerous for those innocent and gullible folks soaking in this stuff than it is for those same people who have been saying the same thing over and over year in and year out without missing a beat, or placed in harm’s way (so they say) hmmm. I can’t speak for others but I deserve better and I’m sure I will receive just that…like I always have. There’s absolutely no need for me to expect any less now. Although I’m aware that many people are easy to be manipulated with fantasies…I’m not going to allow the tricknologies of today to get to me so easily.

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    Too bad you aren't there. You might have been able to rein in the more bombastic fringe element who is stirring the pot of discord which fuels MSM spin.

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    Quote Posted by SEAM (here)
    Media And Political Ridicule Raise Their Heads During D.C. UFO Hearing

    While these congressional-style hearings are going on in Washington, there's an ongoing influx of stories coming out in the media by writers who claim that this is just an exercise in futility among UFO buffs looking for instant publicity, and that the participants -- witness panels and the committee of former members of Congress -- are involved in nothing but a farce and an easy payday.

    The New York Daily News today highlights a statement by U.S. Rep. Peter King of New York, in which he outright ridicules one of the military witnesses at the D.C. hearings, Ret. Air Force Capt. Robert Salas (pictured below).

    Salas has a credible background as a weapons controller and launch officer of intercontinental ballistic missiles and has previously spoken about a 1967 incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana when signals went off indicating an intrusion at the missile site, followed by missiles "going into an unlaunchable, or no-go, mode," all during the appearance of a UFO over the base.

    Salas says he sent documents about this case to King, the former House Homeland Security Chairman and believes King is ignoring him. According to the Daily News, when King was asked about Salas' claim, here's how he responded: "I have no idea what the guy is talking about. We are always getting crazy stuff in the mail by people whose brain has been taken over by aliens or something."

    Really, Mr. King? As a representative of the people, is that the proper way to refer to one of many respected military men entrusted with the safety of our country -- to just shrug him off by referring to the evidence he sent you as "crazy stuff" and to further ridicule him by basically saying his brain was "taken over by aliens"?

    It's high time that elected officials think twice before making pronouncements about things like UFOs, simply because they either have a personal bias against the subject OR they've been told to inflict that kind of attitude on the public.

    Either way, a big reason why these people have come together in Washington this week is to try and open a serious look into a subject that doesn't deserve the kind of ridicule that people like King throw around.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...32.html#PHOTOS
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    Now, more people are seeing through it (the strategies: discrediting, ridiculing, divide & conquer, dis-information, mis-information, mental conditioning in institutions, murder, etc.)

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    What is most interesting regarding this top secret document and other American documents is not only the clear admission and clear recognition of the ET'S presence, that's a given, but also the psychology behind it. The focus of the human interest towards the ET's is almost exclusively remains within their technology, examine their advancment as civilisation in comparison to us. Even though there is a good reason for it, what about some curiosity on the more social and psychological aspects? Are'nt they as much as important to understand as in what and who we are dealing with ? The left mind seems to be in control here but I do wonder if all those other aspects were investigated and researched as well.

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    Interesting second interview. By the sound of it the guy knew a lot more than he was letting on to, but there seemed to be confussion with the terminology that Kerry was using. This could be the achilles heel of getting to the truth. All by design?
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    There is a lot of promises going on at the Hearing... wonder how many will follow through??

    Rep. Merrill Cook says he believe President Clinton would have unsealed files related to the military healthcare of soldiers involved in a UFO incident; however President Obama says there is nothing to disclose. Cook wants answers and plans to seek them out. Citizen Hearing On Disclosure April 30, 2013.



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    Quote Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (here)
    I want to know what that guy in the video who only has a few months left to live has to say. He has never spoken about his time at area 51 before.
    Kerry just posted about this! Sounds amazing.

    http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerr...n-hearing-live

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    This is NOW IN THE CITIZEN HEARING ARCHIVE under "MAY 3 Part 2"

    Today... there is a video interview being broadcast LIVE AT THE HEARING with a never before seen witness testimony...

    go to:

    http://citizenhearing.org

    SIGN UP FOR THE LIVE STREAM ... today is the last day... this is history in the making...

    Talking about interviewing an alien (Grey)...

    Quote: "Eisenhower was going to invade Area 51"...

    Interview by Rich Dolan.

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    Just listened to the interview with the area 51 / S4 CIA guy. Wow!

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    INTERVIEW WITH AREA 51 INSIDER.

    Here it is!
    Source: Watch on Vimeo



    WATCH IT NOW.

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    There is another thread on this which includes a never before seen areas 51 witness: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post669955

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    I am at work and next appointment cancelled and am mulling about what I have been listening to - listening to the voices of most of the presenters speaking is what comes through to me - their attempt to clearly articulate with integrity comes across tellingly - and had the thought that I look forward to hearing more of Kerry's take on what is going on there and then opened email to see that she is on rense.com today at 1 PST? with Mike Harris
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    Kerrys quick-vid update from the Washington DC Disclosure Hearings:



    And an article from Mother Jones News: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...s-venture-star

    Quoted from MJ News:

    When I meet Cook, who served in the House from 1997 to 2001 and now works in the mining industry, he is otherwise occupied talking to a woman in jeans and brown boots with a hand-held Canon camera who says she's spoken to whistleblowers about the government coverup on extraterrestrials.

    This, it turns out, has real policy implications. "They know visitors to this planet might not be friendly," she says of the whistleblowers—which "means Star Wars [the missile defense program] might just be a good idea." Cook is less sure. But, he tells her, "UFOs are real. Exactly what their origin is, is unclear."

    What follows is a rush transcript of the ensuing exchange:

    -Are you aware of bases? Underground bases?

    -Bases?

    -I'll go as far as underground cities, are you familiar with that?

    -Uh, no.

    -Are you aware of the Venture Star?

    -No.

    -The Venture Star is off-planet. The US is inter-stellar. Does that blow your mind?

    -[stammers] I'm approaching everything with an open mind.

    Cook has been getting a lot of this at the hearings. But he was sufficiently affected by the Tuesday testimony of Air Force veterans who claim the Department of Defense is illegally refusing to release their medical records that he called up his lawyer during the lunch break to ask about it.

    "This made me feel like I wasn't wasting my time," Cook says. "Because there were some things I saw yesterday, I'll be honest..."

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    There is more detail to this as well a little more info both before and after they showed this film at the hearings. Its really worth watching and goes into the telepathy between the alien and the Human. Its only £2.00 to watch.

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    For some reason, the vimeo vid didn't show up on my computer screen.
    For anyone else with the same problem, the URL is
    http://vimeo.com/64939351
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    INTERVIEW WITH AREA 51 INSIDER.

    Here it is!
    Source: Watch on Vimeo



    WATCH IT NOW.
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    I thought that the Hearing was fabulous! I still have several hours to view. For the record I am not a writer I am a talker so I keep my text posts short and sweet.

    My opinion holds that I thought this was a very important event.


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    The main thing I keep hearing from this conference is: "The Secrecy is no longer justified".

    Two points I'd like to make about that:

    1) The Secrecy has never been justified in the first place. National Security means (more often than not) protecting private interest, and to hell with the Nation's well fare. The only justification there has been for the secrecy is to keep the people in power having their power over others.

    2) Because of (1) above, the secrecy is still very much justified today! The problem is not that ETs are real, but how did they get here? They sure did not burn coal or oil... or if they did, they have super efficient engines to do that. The ET disclosure means Free Energy disclosure. Free Energy disclosure means the collapse of the power structure. If you can no longer control Energy, you cannot keep your power over others. Money control it's just a shadow of Energy control.

    I forget who said: "Give me control of the money supply and I care not who makes the law". My reply to that is: "Give me a Free Energy device and I care not about who prints the money". The Energy issue trumps all others on this planet right now: ETs, Money and Gold included.

    I am curious what will come out of this, but you can bet the suppression will be fierce. The Controllers have everything to lose if this ever gets out... and they know it .

    The good news is that it looks like it's bursting at the seams. When this will become to hard to contain, I speculate that the "ET invasion" card will be played so that we run away in fear from a potential solution, instead of keeping a level head about it, and doing proper research.

    The bad news is that we are doing most of the suppression ourselves, by ridiculing the issue, not being properly informed, and eating up whatever is server by MSM.

    I just want to make it clear, I am not saying ETs are here to save us. I am just saying that the ET presence (and especially their technology) has the potential to solve our most pressing and defining issue at this time: Energy. I don't want to exchange local Controllers with ET ones (and that's assuming we did not do that already).

    I was a bit surprised with Kerry Cassidy pressing the question if the ETs are friendly or not, since they have disarmed the nuclear sites. That's really not the issue, but Free Energy and how did they do what they do is! Let's assume the ETs are not friendly? What should we do? Arm to the teeth with useless (as we have seen) nukes that any crazy president/dictator can use to blow up the planet? Or should we look into Free Energy and properly develop as The Human Race, capable of Love, Unity and Defense (if we are really that scared of what's out there).

    So I say this: end the secrecy, not to defend the Great United States of America, but get out the one thing that matters: Free Energy. All else flows almost effortlessly from there.

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    Time to bump this stuff.

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    Default Re: The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure

    I merged three other threads on these hearings into this Citizen Hearing On Disclosure, Wash DC, May 2013 thread:There is also the thread ‘Deathbed testimony’ about UFOs given by former CIA official that I decided to leave as a separate thread.

    I changed the title of this resulting main merge thread for these Disclosure Hearings to Citizen Hearing On Disclosure, Wash DC, May 2013 .
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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    I still just do not understand why we continue to breathlessly await this thing, amongst a whole series of others like mass arrests, ascension, etc.

    We don't trust anything else officials tell us (and for good reason), so why this? If someone can simply explain to me as they would to a third grader, how and why this is not yet another psyop, I'm all ears.

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    Exactly, Fred... why focus so much on 50 years ago? Could that be to distract us from the now? That's what I would do if I were a PTB and in charge.

    It the next level of - "Hey! Look over there!" While "we " do this over here... That next level being - "Hey! Look over there!" and then "Here's what's really going on over here" (which is also a movie projection... just a different one). While the actual third or fourth or fifth thing is actually going on.

    Wouldn't it be funny if the truth is that the PTBs were actually benevolent (at least from their point of view) Wizards of Oz?

    That's why I only look for the truth through the metaphors actual life presents to me and why I have lost all fear, all paranoia and why I am now Stark Raving FREE!
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