Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Chester]

Thank You, Daughter of Time.

I apologize, Amzer Zo, for being over sensitive.

[Houman]

well worth a watch (the 13 floor)
http://www.putlocker.com/file/5DISB0NZBV8CWWO#

[sms]

Houman:Thanks for your post sms... the notion of a prison like (virtual) reality appears to be a recurrent them in the movies industry…

Houman, thanks for this!

Probably, most of us came for the first time across the idea that we were living in a virtual reality through Plato’s Parable of the Cave.

“And now,” I said, “let me show in a figure how far our nature is enlightened or unenlightened. Behold! human beings living in an underground den, which has a mouth open towards the light and reaching all along the den; here they have been from their childhood, and have their legs and necks chained so that they cannot move, and can only see before them, being prevented by the chains from turning round their heads. Above and behind them a fire is blazing at a distance, and between the fire and the prisoners there is a raised way; and you will see, if you look, a low wall built along the way, like the screen which marionette players have in front of them over which they show the puppets. …And do you see,” I said, “men passing along the wall carrying all sorts of vessels, and statues and figures of animals made of wood and stone and various materials, which appear over the wall?

…And they see only their own shadows, or the shadows of one another, which the fire throws on the opposite wall of the cave… how could they see anything but the shadows if they were never allowed to move their heads… and of the objects which are being carried in like manner they would only see the shadows …And if they were able to converse with one another, would they not suppose that they were naming what was actually before them? …And suppose further that the prison had an echo which came from the other side, would they not be sure to fancy when one of the passers-by spoke that the voice which they heard came from the passing shadow? …To them, the truth would be literally nothing but the shadows of the images.

[...] And now look again, and see what will naturally follow if the prisoners are released and disabused of their error. At first, when any of them is liberated and compelled suddenly to stand up and turn his neck round and walk and look towards the light, he will suffer sharp pains; the glare will distress him, and he will be unable to see the realities of which in his former state he had seen the shadows; and then conceive someone saying to him that what he saw before was an illusion, but that now, when he is approaching nearer to being and his eye is turned towards more real existence, he has a clearer vision – what will be his reply? And you may further imagine that his instructor is pointing to the objects as they pass and requiring him to name them – will he not be perplexed? Will he not fancy that the shadows which he formerly saw are truer than the objects which are now shown to him?

…And if he is compelled to look straight at the light, will he not have a pain in his eyes which will make him turn away to take refuge in the objects of vision which he can see, and which he will conceive to be in reality clearer than the things which are now being shown to him?

…And suppose once more, that he is reluctantly dragged up a steep and rugged ascent, and held fast until he is forced into the presence of the sun himself, is he not likely to be pained and irritated? When he approaches the light his eyes will be dazzled, and he will not be able to see anything at all of what are now called realities. …He will require to grow accustomed to the sight of the upper world. And first he will see the shadows best, next the reflections of men and other objects in the water, and then the objects themselves; spangled heaven; and he will see the sky and the stars by night better than the sun or the light of the sun by day?

…Last of all he will be able to see the sun, and not mere reflections of him in the water, but he will see him in his own proper place, and not in another; and he will contemplate him as he is. …He will then proceed to argue that this is he who gives the season and the years, and is the guardian of all that is in the visible world, and in a certain way the cause of all things which he and his fellows have been accustomed to behold?

…And when he remembered his old habitation, and the wisdom of the den and his fellow prisoners, do you not suppose that he would felicitate himself on the change, and pity them? …And if they were in the habit of conferring honors among themselves on those who were quickest to observe the passing shadows and to remark which of them went before, and which followed after, and which were together; and who were therefore best able to draw conclusions as to the future, do you think that he would care for such honors and glories, or envy the possessors of them? Would he not say with Homer, ‘Better to be the poor servant of a poor master,’ and to endure anything, rather than think as they do and live after their manner?

…Imagine once more such a one coming suddenly out of the sun to be replaced in his old situation; would he not be certain to have his eyes full of darkness? …And if there were a contest, and he had to compete in measuring the shadows with the prisoners who had never moved out of the den, while his sight was still weak, and before his eyes had become steady (and the time which would be needed to acquire this new habit of sight might be very considerable), would he not be ridiculous? Men would say of him that up he went up and down he came without his eyes; and that it was better not even to think of ascending; and if any one tried to loose another and lead him up to the light, let them only catch the offender, and they would put him to death.

…This entire allegory you may now append, dear Glaucon, to the previous argument; the prison house is the world of sight, the light of the fire is the sun, and you will not misapprehend me if you interpret the journey upwards to be the ascent of the soul into the intellectual world according to my poor belief, which, at your desire, I have expressed – whether rightly or wrongly, God knows. [Republic: Book VII, trans. B Jowett]

It seems that early gnostics were aware or holographic nature of the reality, as well, however, a different terminology was used:

John Lash, (gnostic scholar):

(…)From Hoeller's interpretation we understand that Gnostics detected the projection of an alien mind, a Demiurgic screening force, upon the natural world. They indicated the operation of what science fiction author Philip K. Dick called "a two-source hologram." We see nature through a filter, and what Gnostics rejected was the false impression produced by the filter (our mental conditioning, including beliefs that alienate us from our true potential as humans), not the mysterious, life-sustaining world upon which it was projected. This distinction cannot be grasped, however, if we do not enter into the living experience of the Gnostic seers. The concept of world-denial is tricky and sticky, like a tar-baby. The direct awareness of the dualism inherent to our perception of the world, not to the world itself, is an experiential test that few scholars would accept to undergo, and even fewer could pass.

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Just to note that the “two source hologram” would probably correlate with Dr Malanga’s version of the Tree of Life, where it would be projected through the “Creator 1” and the “Creator 2”:



Coscienza – Consciousness
Secondo creatore – 2nd Creator
Primo creatore – 1st Creator
Anima secondo creatore – the Soul of the 2nd Creator (in Pistis Sophia called Zoe; while the Soul of 1st Creator was called Norea/Orea)
Uomo con anima – man with a Soul
Alieno incorporeo – bodyless alien
Alieno corporeo – alien with a body
Uomo senza anima – man without a Soul
Golem=Golem

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Furthermore, Dr. John Lash documents, in metahistory.org:

Recent work by Russian biologist Piotr Garjajev and some Russian linguistic experts suggests the same thing, and, more specifically, this research may show that junk DNA, rather than being a discard, is “a computer hologram that works with laser-type radiations.” In short, DNA is an extraordinary generator of perceptions, an instrument of virtual reality.(…)

Gnostics documented these aliens as seeking to "play God". Furthermore, by isolating Earth in an artificially generated universe, Collier and Dr. John Lash's research suggest that archons apparently hoped to inspire humans to create organized religions that sought to worship the "miracle of life" on Earth, and the faith-based 'faces' of the archons as "creators of the universe".

Gnostic insights documented by Dr. John Lash suggests that the biotic consciousness of Earth was brought from an apparent "organic universe" into a parallel imitation universe. Gnostics suggest that as a result of the same temporal interference alluded to by Alex Collier, Earth as an organic biotic consciousness was trapped into an inorganic "imitation" universe, that exists as an artificial copy of the "organic universe" in which human origins lie:

Gnostic teachings constantly emphasize that the Archons are imitators who cannot produce anything original, yet they arrogantly claim they can. The Lord Archon is called antimimon pneuma, "counterfeit spirit." (Apoc John III, 36:17. The term occurs several times in different texts.) The cosmos he produces is described by the Coptic term hal, "simulation." The vast planetary system of the Archons is a stereoma, a virtual reality projection in simulation of a higher dimensional pattern.

Source

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The central point of Eastern Gnosis is development of discernment in order to be able to distinguish real from false. And a human being was regarded there as a machine, however, with some potential to become a real human being. The Eastern Gnosis is based on the premise that beside the physical body with its lower centres (motoric, intellectual and emotional) a human being has higher centres (which belong to his soul). Once he manages to connect his lower centres with higher ones, he becomes aware. Until then he is governed by the General Law which is of a mechanical nature. So, there were some interesting parallels between Gnosis and the virtual reality?!

John Keel is one of the investigators of paranormal phenomena who arrived from that angle to the idea of AI running the show. (He is the author of several books, including The Mothman Prophecies, according to which was made the movie, as well. Though, not as good as the book is.) Here are some excerpts from his book The Eighth Tower, published in 1976:

“You and I are biochemical robots controlled by the powerful radiations being broadcast from the Eighth Tower [supercomputer]. Our brains are programmed like computers, and many of us are suddenly and completely reprogrammed at some point in our adult life. At birth our entire lives are planned for us, and as we weave and totter through our allotted three score and ten, we find ourselves manipulated by 'luck’, by strange coincidences, and by sudden changes in ourselves and our environment.(…)

Visualize a mad scientist who needs someone to clean out his secret laboratory in his castle on a forbidding mountaintop.

He constructs a mechanical robot for the job and programs it so it can move freely within the lab, but if it should open the door and try to move out of the laboratory, it is programmed to self-destruct.

The robot calls it slavery. We call it free will. We are free to pursue our life in our own way so long as we conform to the hidden master plan. If we try to circumvent that plan by zigging instead of zagging, we self-destruct.”

(…)“We are biochemical robots helplessly controlled by forces that can scramble our brains, destroy our memories and use us in any way they see fit. They have been doing it to us forever. We are caught up in a poker game being played with marked cards. Yet, in the closing years of this century, we are like the inveterate gambler who, when informed that the game is crooked, shrugs and says, ”I know... but it's the only game in town!”

One of really genuine UFO investigators, Barbara Bartholic, was saying that “we were in a big Nintendo game” and beside that:

We are confronted and confounded by an intelligence that has the ability to:

- vacuum a car and its occupants right off the roadway and go unnoticed by all;
- enter human minds or habitats day or night;
- interfere with babies still in the womb;
- abduct young children right from their beds or playgrounds undetected;
- change the dynamics of relationships and love affairs;
- cause disease;
- create mental problems and drug addiction;
- create wars and mutate generations…

… Humans are hunks of sedated flesh on an examining table; alien property to do with what they will while we are under their control.

Link

In fact, a virtual reality would be something similar as a computer simulation, as well. An approximation used in earlier times could be the term – "film".

What follows is an excerpt from the book by Boris Mouravieff, "Gnosis – Study and Commentaries on the Eastern Orthodoxy"; Book One; pages 232 and 233; (we have to consider that these books were first published in French language in 1961):

The life of man is film. It is certainly difficult for our Cartesian minds to grasp this concept.

Our three-dimensional minds are badly adapted to ideas and facts which touch on the domain of the eternal.

Incomprehensible as it may seem, our life is truly a film produced in
accordance with a script. This film goes on continuously, without stopping,
in such a way that, at the time of his death, man is born again. What seems
absurd is that he is born in the same place, at the same date where he was
born before, and of the same parents. So the film goes on again.

Each human being, then, is born with his own particular film. This
represents the field of action in which man is called to apply his
conscious efforts. The repetition of the film is not reincarnation, although
these two notions are often confused. For the reasons we have already
mentioned, exterior man, who lives in the system of the Future-Past,
cannot embrace in a single moment the ensemble of his film, nor even
the part that contains his immediate future. To do so, he would need
to enlarge the slot of his Present. It thus happens to him that, faced with
certain events, he will feel that he has already seen or lived those events.

Some see in such phenomena the proof of so called reincarnation. In
reality, phenomena of this sort are the result of a casual and temporary
surge of fine energies in the organism: the slot of the individual Present
then enlarges for a few instants, and some significant facts of the immediate
future slip into the waking consciousness. In this way, the impression is
created of a return of another time.

In a certain way this is true, although the impression of having lived
before is only caused by mechanical unfolding of the film. By reincarnation,
we must understand a phenomenon of a very different order. Although the
theoretical film revolves integrally on the plane of possibilities, meaning in
eternity, the film of the exterior man clings to the plane of realization, that is,
of Time, but only to the extent strictly necessary to satisfy the ends of the
Ray of Creation. True reincarnation, on the other hand, occurs entirely in
time, and belongs integrally to the domain of the Real, well understood as
part of the broader frame of Manifestation. We have insisted on the fact
that the human Personality is not a reality in the proper sense of the word,
but a possibility. It plays a role in the film to which it is attached, from
which it will not disappear until the moment of the second Birth. At that
moment, it will cease to be a Personality. Because of its indestructible
union with the real 'I', it will be transfigured, and so it will become an
Individuality.

As long as man lives in the wilderness, self-satisfied and immersed in lies
and illusions, the film will unfold with mechanical inflexibility, and the
Personality will remain entirely unchanged. These circumstances start to
change the moment man crosses the first Threshold. This passage can be
compared to the conception of the future Individuality. The Staircase symbolizes the period of gestation, and the crossing of the second Threshold
represents the second Birth, the birth of Individuality. During his later
development, corresponding to the notes MI and RE of the Way, the
Individuality becomes progressively integrated with the higher cosmoses.
By acquiring the gifts of the Holy Spirit appropriate to his nature, he
progressively participates in real, objective existence, which finally characterizes his being.

This is Salvation; liberation from the bonds of the film.
It is only at this point of evolution that true individual reincarnation
becomes possible. This is not mechanical; it is done consciously, generally
to accomplish a mission.

It is important to grasp clearly the difference which exists between the
film, a mixture of possibilities, and reincarnation in time, which belongs to
the domain of the Real, and to understand the meaning of this difference.
At the time of the second Birth, that is to say, by crossing the second
Threshold, man escapes his bondage to the film, and enters the domain
of redemption.

So, we have a lot of indications pointing to that we were living in a hologram or a virtual reality. Some scientists, like Jim Eldvige (Book: the Universe Solved) make interesting parallels between us in a virtual reality and the characters in the computer games (virtual realities) like “SIMS”.

Would it be anything close to the “machine” as Gurdjieff expressed it in the dialogue with Ouspensky, in the book In Search of the Miraculous?! So, as the concept was expressed more than 80 years ago, when there was no computer terminology, we may just replace the “machine” with a “game character” (the same would apply to to the later J. Keel’s term “bio-chemical robot”):

”Look, all those people you see," he pointed along the street, "are simply machines—nothing more."

"I think I understand what you mean," I said. "And I have often thought how little there is in the world that can stand against this form of mechanization and choose its own path."

"This is just where you make your greatest mistake," said G. "You think there is something that chooses its own path, something that can stand against mechanization; you think that not everything is equally mechanical."

"Why, of course not!" I said. "Art, poetry, thought, are phenomena of quite a different order."

"Of exactly the same order," said G. "These activities are just as mechanical as everything else. Men are machines and nothing but mechanical actions can be expected of machines."

"Very well," I said. "But are there no people who are not machines?"

"It may be that there are," said G., "only not those people you see. And you do not know them. That is what I want you to understand."(…)

(…)The law for man is existence in the circle of mechanical influences, the state of 'man-machine.' The way of the development of hidden possibilities is a way against nature, against God.(…)

(…)"'What do you expect?" said G. "People are machines. Machines have to be blind and unconscious, they cannot be otherwise, and all their actions have to correspond to their nature. Everything happens. No one does anything. 'Progress' and 'civilization,' in the real meaning of these words, can appear only as the result of conscious efforts. They cannot appear as the result of unconscious mechanical actions. And what conscious effort can there be in machines? And if one machine is unconscious, then a hundred machines are unconscious, and so are a thousand machines, or a hundred thousand, or a million. And the unconscious activity of a million machines must necessarily result in destruction and extermination. It is precisely in unconscious involuntary manifestations that all evil lies. You do not yet understand and cannot imagine all the results of this evil. But the time will come when you will understand."

LINK

At the end, we have a lot of data indicating that:

1. Our reality has holographic or virtual properties
2. In this reality, we, as human beings are something as “machines”, “biochemical robots” or “SIMS game characters”

Are we being played with like pawns in a chess game?

One example:

The other term closely connected to hosting is the reptilian hive-mind. The term hive-mind in my understanding is the needed reptilian matrix or created context in hybrid’s lives. By this I mean that the reptiles are capable of creating a reality matrix like a Nintendo game. Reality matrix contains certain amount of freedom for abductee or hybrid to make decisions in their life but nevertheless, the outcome is what the reptiles want it to be. By using this hive mind manipulation many people can be included in the matrix to act as wanted for the needed result.

The reptilian hive-mind is being activated as a lure like episode often among multiple needed participants to create the needed situations into hybrids or abductees lives. This has happened to me many times in my life and during these situations I felt quite powerless to change the course of the events I could already know was going to happen.

The Hive mind, or created reality matrix, is usually deactivated once the needed result is gained. For example, marriage–in my case–and the delayed surgery and so on. (EL-This can extend to sabotaged media efforts to have guests on to tell their stories, where certain aspects of the alien agenda are never allowed to be spoken in a large way in the public domain.)

After the deactivation of the “hive mind” the people involved often seem to wake up somehow. They may feel shame about what they have done and don’t seem to understand how they could not have seen the results of their behaviour. In this way the reptilians can enjoy the caused misery two times, once with hybrid or abductee and secondly with the awakened manipulated participants—who, by the way, are non-abductees and ARE VERY MUCH AFFECTED BY THIS TOO—and are less aware than the abductees themselves are. —EL)
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Another example would be, so called – “gangstalking phenomenon”.

Short and good, somebody or something is able to take over (all or some?!?) human beings and play them as it wants. Many truthseekers have experienced events when close friends, even family members, turn suddenly against them without an apparent reason, as if they were being played by something/somebody else.

At the end, if the reality is virtual, it is still real for us, and we have to take it as such.

…

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
LRH taking a look at those psychos could still see their "soul" -- metaphorically expressed -- as a shrinking, barely glowing piece of cinder. The problem he saw in rehabilitating them -- the tech exists -- is: who would want to spend time in their company to do that?

Fair enough Amzer Zo, but what if that courtesy has already been extended to any number of us at some point along the way?

[Chester]

Posted by Houman (here)
well worth a watch (the 13 floor)
http://www.putlocker.com/file/5DISB0NZBV8CWWO#

What a difference a day makes - thanks for the flick tip Houman and sms. Time for a break.

[observer]

Posted by sms (here)
Click-on the forwarding icon to see the content of sms' comment #2743

This is excellent research, sms, and the very point of a thread which was created to verify these facts that you have discovered in your investigation:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-the-hologram

Please ignore the comments which certain members made throughout the beginning of the thread in an attempt to debunk the science portion of the of the conclusions addressed in the OP. What is important to this understanding is that something is controlling the hologram, regardless of any individual's position on the science.

[Hervé]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
LRH taking a look at those psychos could still see their "soul" -- metaphorically expressed -- as a shrinking, barely glowing piece of cinder. The problem he saw in rehabilitating them -- the tech exists -- is: who would want to spend time in their company to do that?

Fair enough Amzer Zo, but what if that courtesy has already been extended to any number of us at some point along the way?

The thing is that, AFAIK, it has never been done before. The usual handling having always been more brainwashings/implantings/memory erasures/etc... as seen with current "treatment" still using ECTs and chemical lobotomies.

[dan33]

Quite an interesting post Houman. Great movies. Thanks.

GHOST IN THE SHELL 1 and 2. Masterpiece on the Anime Movies. Cyborgs among us.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lOkxOwsRuOA

BRAINSTORM

Posted by Houman (here)
Thanks for your post sms... the notion of a prison like (virtual) reality appears to be a recurrent them in the movies industry


Dark City (1998) Copied by Matrix 1. Has all the elements (creation and manipulation of a virtual work, programmed and memory implanted human beings in reincarnations loops, alien, consciousness/mind machines allowing the manipulation of the virtual reality)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QrGSLMl1XFs

The Island (2005) A man goes on the run after he discovers that he is actually a "harvested being", and is being kept along with others in a utopian facility. Very similar to the Matrix in many ways, including quotes.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZtyC3jFh6eM

The 13th floor (1999) A computer scientists discovers something fascinating about our world (mentioned in the video you posted)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xsl0-ON7P8A

Welt am Draht (1973) Somewhere in the future there is a computer project called Simulacron, able to simulate a full featured reality..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YvlQ8TQsmQA

Brainstorm (1983) A scientist develops a machine to record, play and implant memories&emotions of others.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NNiZP2G-nEM

eXistenZ (1999) What is real? What is a game?

Strange Days (1995) Ex-cop deals with 'human memory' discs.

Total Recall (1990) The future: Arnold gets his holidays implanted. But what happens then?

Blade Runner (1982) The future: Replicants (artificial humans/ androids) have to be tracked down and killed.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8

Memento (2000) A man seeks for the truth he has just forgotten.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ploSYVE0uao

Slaughterhouse Five (1972) Billie Pilgrim lives a multi-life. He survives the bombing of Dresden 1945, then lives simultaneously in his past as a young American, in the future on another planet and in the present in the USA.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DvlZtlBfCi0

Event horizon (1997) A spaceship rescue crew investigates a spaceship that disappeared into a black hole and has now returned. Note: Laurence Fishburn (Morpheus) acts

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OVlnER8SxfQ

Waking Life (2001) Are dreams real or just dreams? A captured in a dream meets many characters who talk about the meaning, perception, and reality of existence.


Vanilla Sky (2001) This is the American remake of Abre Los Ojos (Open Your Eyes). Tom Cruise finds his world to turn into surreal after a car accident. Penelope Cruz plays the part of Sophia which she also played in the original.

Abre los Ojos (Open Your Eyes) (1997) A rich attractive arrogant young man finds the girl of his dreams in Sophia (played by Penelope Cruz) but his hopes with her are soon ruined by the antics of one of his ex-lovers.

The 6th Sense (1999) A psychologists tries to cure a child who says he can see ghosts. "I can see dead people"

Tron (1982) A programmer is "digitalized" and has to fight within a processor unit.

Pleasentville (1998) Two teenagers find themselves in a 1950ies sitcom.

The Prisoner (1967) (TV) A man is gassed and wakes up as "Number 6" in a prison village wondering who is "Number One"?

Johnny Mnemonic (1995) In the year 2021, the entire planet is connected to the internet and half of it is suffering from a disease known as Nerve Attenuation Syndrome or N.A.S. A data courier named Johnny is hired to carry crucial information, that may contain a cure, while being pursued by an evil corporation.

Solaris (2002) Dead persons appear on a spaceship

The Truman Show (1998) Your entire life...is a showVirtual Nightmare (2000) (TV) The world is so strange. Is it too perfect?

Stalker (1979) 20 years ago, a meteorite fell to Earth into an area, now known as The Zone. Stories purport that there is an inner chamber within 'The Zone' called 'The Room' that grants one's deepest wish.

Fight club (1999) A stranger introduces a man to a new way of life.

Identity (2003) One after one dies. What do they have in common?

Angel Heart (1987) A private investigator is hired to track down a singer called Johnny Favorite.

Shining (1980) An isolated hotel is haunted during the winter time.

Naked Lunch (1991) Bug exterminator finds his wife being addicted to his bug powder. He becomes an agent on a mission.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dtflS5wCbjw

Ghost Ship (2002) A salvage crew discovers a long-lost 1962 passenger ship. Strange things happen.

Videodrome (1983) James Woods discovers a show, broadcast on a pirate signal, called "Videodrome".




Equilibrium (2002) The future: Emotions are forbidden. John Preston is after those reading books and hearing music. Then he misses a dose of Prozium (the drug that suppresses emotion) he becomes the only person capable of overthrowing the regime.

Impostor (2002) The future: A scientist is suddenly suspected to be an alien spy. He doesn't know anything about that and flees.

The Others (2001) A woman living in an old house with her photosensitive children becomes convinced that the house is haunted.

Ghost in the Shell (1995) The future: Humans are connected to networks, power-cyborgs fight computer hacking, humans love machines. Was one of the original inspirations for The Matrix.

Terminator 1 (1984) Terminator 2 (1991) Terminator 3 (2003) The artificial intelligent weapons rise against humans and want to take over the world. Some machines try to destroy man, some protect.

Cypher (2002) A man begins working for a corporation as a double agent. Just as he is beginning to enjoy this new lifestyle, he meets Rita and things take an unexpected turn.

Screamers (1995) Another movie based on a Philip K. Dick story. Man builds the perfect weapon, but the weapon evolves.

Avalon (2001) In the future, people play an addictive war game by connecting their minds to a computer. The main character is a young woman who is quite addicted to the game and thus very skilled. She eventually achived what only very few others had done before: She won all levels. Rumors say, there is a secret, ultimate level which can be accessed by finding a mysterious ghost in the form of a child. Once this level ist entered the only way out is to win it or to die. But there is something else about this special level which may change the perception of reality and simulation for every player that comes this far.

Paycheck (2003) In the near future a guy builds a machine to foresee the future, then gets his memory erased. Based on a Philip K. Dick story

They Live (1988) A John Carpenter movie that tells the story about a down on his luck construction worker named Nada, who finds a pair of strange sunglasses that allow him to see the world behind the world; subliminal messages hidden in newspapers, magazines, billboards and even money, in order to keep us all "asleep" and unaware of those who secretly rule us.


Star Trek (TV) There are some episodes regarding the crew being captured on the holodeck.

Virtuosity (1995) Virtual reality exists. A virtual simulation program (Russell Crowe) of criminal is written and it becomes uncontrollable. One of the testing subjects (Denzel Washington) might be the only one who can stop him.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3000738AAv1h6X

[Flash]

I will put this vid in your thread too Houman (i opened a thread with it also), so that information on satanic rituals and illuminatis mind programming is not too scattered on the forum.

Published on May 8, 2013

During Kevin Annett's visit with us here at Freedom Central, we have been contacted by several people with some very interesting stories.

Meet Toos of the Family Nijenhuis, a very brave woman who came to meet Kevin Annett at the event Freedom Central hosted for him. Following of from the disclosure of some very sad but important facts, we immediately arranged for an interview with Toos.

This is an introductory clip of the story. There is almost 3 hours of recorded testimony that will be released shortly as part of the initiative being put in place by ITCCS Holland.

This is truly the most difficult interview we have ever conducted, and Freedom Central was very grateful for Kevin Annett's help in interviewing this very important witness.

www.itccs.org

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PyrPEu7nk1Q

I think this is an important video and witness that should be seen worldwide. She names people, bring us to places, the full interview will be very thorough I am sure.

Truth is coming out (England, now Holland, US has to follow, every Belgian knows about the lies of their own government by now, etc.), we have to be made aware of what is happening. Truth has to come out so that we can chose our future world.

However, what hit me the most, after the sheer incredible suffering I heard, what hit me the most is her non verbal language.

It is congruent throughout at all times. There is not doubt that woman has lived what she is talking about. Please notice the jerking movements she has, the eyes going left when she remembers, the shoulders position, the vibrations of the voice.


In the next video, you have the description of a device the illuminatis have to put you knock out in 5 seconds and then program you, abuse your kid under this device hypnosis, etc. Jay Parker who is a satanist family victim talks about this below.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qlhI7WcIBZ4

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
LRH taking a look at those psychos could still see their "soul" -- metaphorically expressed -- as a shrinking, barely glowing piece of cinder. The problem he saw in rehabilitating them -- the tech exists -- is: who would want to spend time in their company to do that?

Fair enough Amzer Zo, but what if that courtesy has already been extended to any number of us at some point along the way?

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
The thing is that, AFAIK, it has never been done before.

That doesn't mean it can't happen, or perhaps it's even a part of the natural order of things.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
The usual handling having always been more brainwashings/implantings/memory erasures/etc... as seen with current "treatment" still using ECTs and chemical lobotomies.

How about something much cleaner and simpler like a Mulligan, as in the game of golf. And I'm not talking about here in the physical.

In golf, a mulligan is a stroke that is replayed from the spot of the previous stroke without penalty, due to an errant shot made on the previous stroke. The result, as the hole is played and scored, is as if the first errant shot had never been made. This practice is disallowed entirely by strict rules and players who attempt it or agree to let it happen may be disqualified from sanctioned competitions. However, in casual play, mulligans speed play by reducing the time spent searching for a lost ball, and reduce frustration and increase enjoyment of the game, as a player can "shake off" a bad shot more easily with their second chance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulligan_(games)

[Hervé]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
LRH taking a look at those psychos could still see their "soul" -- metaphorically expressed -- as a shrinking, barely glowing piece of cinder. The problem he saw in rehabilitating them -- the tech exists -- is: who would want to spend time in their company to do that?

Fair enough Amzer Zo, but what if that courtesy has already been extended to any number of us at some point along the way?

[...]

Fred,

It seems that what I wrote is being misunderstood: LRH and others did it with the processes he developed.

However, that takes some guts to do because, as an auditor, one has to sit there listening to and watching a psycho grinning, laughing and taking pleasure at recounting the kind of gory stories and graphic pictures posted all along this thread, without breaking the "Auditor's Code," that would allow the psycho to come out of it.

[Chester]

Hi I too often have a hard time understanding your posts, Amzer Zo... Isn't the goal that the psycho receiving auditing "come out of it?"

I am assuming this means, coming out of their "spell" or "programming."

And so if I understand that right, what code of an auditor would possibly be broken that would achieve the goal?

And then, if by breaking some code, a higher goal is achieved, maybe the code should be reconsidered OR perhaps there is the experience that there's greater risk in breaking said code... so just seeking clarification.

I really want to understand this but I read the post 4 or 5 times, and remained confused... thus my request for clarification.

Thanks! Chester

[Hervé]

Posted by justoneman (here)
[...]

I really want to understand this but I read the post 4 or 5 times, and remained confused... thus my request for clarification.

Thanks! Chester

All right, let me rephrase: when one follows the Auditor's Code, the psycho gets out of the incident s/he stuck in. The difficulty is for the auditor to go through "listening to and watching a psycho grinning, laughing and taking pleasure at recounting the kind of gory stories and graphic pictures posted all along this thread" without breaking the "Auditor's Code." Just the thought of wanting to throw the book at the individual is enough to break that "Auditor's code."

Now, re-read my comment and see if it really was wrongly phrased as in having to sit there without breaking the "Auditor's Code" to allow the psycho to come out of it?

That's the kind of guy LRH was: being able to audit a psycho to end phenomena having in view the simple arithmetic of "one less psycho doing harm on planet Earth."

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
[...]

I really want to understand this but I read the post 4 or 5 times, and remained confused... thus my request for clarification.

Thanks! Chester

All right, let me rephrase: when one follows the Auditor's Code, the psycho gets out of the incident s/he stuck in. The difficulty is for the auditor to go through "listening to and watching a psycho grinning, laughing and taking pleasure at recounting the kind of gory stories and graphic pictures posted all along this thread" without breaking the "Auditor's Code." Just the thought of wanting to throw the book at the individual is enough to break that "Auditor's code."

Now, re-read my comment and see if it really was wrongly phrased as in having to sit there without breaking the "Auditor's Code" to allow the psycho to come out of it?

That's the kind of guy LRH was: being able to audit a psycho to end phenomena having in view the simple arithmetic of "one less psycho doing harm on planet Earth."

Now it is clear, thank you. What I was unable to guess at was what component of the Auditor's Code was at risk. From the clarification, it seems to me that part of the Auditor's Code is to not judge the person. Perhaps I might be a good auditor then as I don't judge these folks. I feel sadness for their predicament though... I have dealt with some incredibly horrific folks and perhaps that is one reason I have been able to read through this thread and look at every single image (and in many cases study them).

I have always done this because I have been highly motivated to find a way to understand them. That is important to me because I do not see how I can help their victims as well as them (if it is possible) without being able to understand how they developed their practices, most specifically their justifications.

[Carmody]

Turns out to be important for this thread. An earlier post:

Posted by gripreaper (here)
So, it's all about energy? How to generate it, husband it, amplify it, emanate it on the positive side, OR how to vampire it on the negative? Yes, whether that is done sexually or just by putting an energetic "hook" out there and sucking it out, or by ritual and pulling it through the crown.

It's all about energy.

When you take away the low level aspects of it (solids), you go to the next levels, which are, in order: liquid, gas, plasma,and then aether.

When you get rid of the solids which we are partially composed of, meaning go to intelligent forms which are not inclusive of solids as we are...you get to energy. The medium of exchange, the motion, the flow of the system itself, is what we call energy, from our viewpoint.

It's capacity to organize itself, into different forms of high complexity, it naturally exceeds that of the capacity to form intelligence in anything that is inclusive of solids or frozen lattice structures.

Again, restated..organizational complexity, possibilities thereof are naturally higher in intelligent systems that do not bridge across and into solids.

To explain further:

<solids, liquid, gas, plasma>= lower human awareness
<liquid, gas, plasma, aether>= Higher human awareness

You can see that in each end, one level has been lopped off. Aether (infinite timeless connectivity) on the mundane awareness level, and solids on the atheric awareness level (linear unidirectional 3d based connectivity). One means nearly nothing to the other when awareness is in each given state. Our lower level awareness tends to concern itself with solids and liquids, not really being all that cognizant of gas and plasma....and our higher self connection tends to concern itself with Plasma and aether, not really being all that connected to or cognizant of liquid and gas.

One kind of example is that when our higher selves and even our 'Out of body' astral selves are traveling around, we find that we can get trapped in solids, very sticky, very slow. Get stuck in a wall, a rock,and so on. Our astral awareness slows to nearly nothing with that kind of integration with solids.

In that way, one might see this problem with awareness as tied to bringing such awareness to our physical 3d linear unidirectional time based side or self.


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One can see, within a few seconds of contemplation of the above... that the individual has connection to and through both.

It would only be logical that any attempt at manipulation and use, any attempt at exploitation... would have to occur at (or via) the border or barrier of awareness. It could only be aided via exploitation of any inability to transfer or bridge across this gap, in the given complex (two state) individual, such as humans.

it is important to understand that solids are unique in their basis in unidirectional frozen lattice structures that are polarized into a narrow channel of expression and connectivity. A fundamental of why we view things like the thermodynamics and relativity as being 'inescapable'.

When we cease basing our logical parameters on these Newtonian elemental basis, we are freed from the thermodynamic and relativity based unidirectional time '3d' basis/frameworks of logic - we move to the quantum, which is inclusive of aether. Spooky action at a distance, and so on.

Awareness would then begin to naturally extend into aether (growth and expansion of the collective/individual logic and awareness) and thus the blank/blind spot or exploitation point is visualized/seen.... and thus ceases to be effective.

(earthquake tremor during this edit)

[sms]

lookbeyond: Sms, do you think you will go into the light or accept help from beings when you pass over?

Your question refers to the future which does not exist, considering that the quantum wave function of the “past” and the “future” is always collapsing in the now, which is only what exists. Or, maybe, it is better to say that “now” is a particle and past and future are the waves; and as such, subject to change from the now.

However, I can say when such a “now” comes, and the event you mention, I will be ready, as I am ready for the events and challenges I am facing now.

When I look back into my past and all challenges I faced, I always had a potential to solve them all “positively” (optimally), which does not mean that I did.

Regarding the “help”, of course, all unconditional and well-intentional (having on mind the saying “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”) help is welcome, however, we have to be careful there. Most of us have religious programming still running at least on subconscious level, which includes external saviours (I do not think such saviours exist, which does not mean that there were no entities which pretend to be saviours.)

One has to take his own saving into his own hands and all responsibility which goes along with that.

Aware human being will act consciously (there is no being without doing) and he will help others when asked for help, or if he determines that it was really necessary to help somebody. Furthermore, he will provide his help to other being in such a way to enable other being to help himself on his own, using his own potentials and resources. After the person who is provided with help overcomes his problem, he must be clear that he was the one who did it, using his own abilities and potentials.

“External saviour” is a very strong mental program which passivizes people and disables them in using their own resources and potentials. So, they become dependent on somebody else, real or fictional. (Jumping into Jesus’s lap may not be good idea.) Followers of any person or teaching can not achieve individuality and the road to the real liberation of human being leads through his individualization.

Beside that, real help should be based on the feeling of humanness .

At the end, more awareness - less need for an external help.

...

[Chester]

Multiple, powerful points sms - wow!

The tricky part for some of us is with regards to those who are victims of, practitioners of or indirect but knowledgeable support participants of the purported SRA and RHandAS.

I have had difficult discussions (call them arguments) with others on the forum who suggest a.) most of these purported activities are Hollywood (fake) pictures and videos and b.) those who have had direct experiences and have escaped the grip's of these cults are deluded in their minds.

I make the odds that most of the alternative community's suspicions having a great deal of merit quite high.

I am someone who has not had direct (remembered) experiences along these lines but there's just too much constant information coming about about all this all the time - see the video posted by Flash above.

This practice seems like a ball and chain on the entire human experience. One would think that there has to be a tiny degree of inner question among those among us who are directly involved. There has to be a wish... even if its just tiny one, in so many of those folks that their children would not have to be a victim of or a programmed, next generation facilitator for the beings who feed off others through stealing their soul ultimately behind it all.

When we look at it this way, its not about "saving" anything, its about the future of all our children.

But again... the how?

At least folks like Houman have the guts enough to create and maintain a thread like this on an important internet forum. He mentioned perhaps the best approach for now is the raising of awareness.

I sure do appreciate all of your posts, sms.

[lookbeyond]

Hi sms, if you dont mind, are you saying with re to "the light" we see at point of just after death
, that you will use your discernment then and there?(i know there is only now, thx).

Would you mind giving your opinion on reported visions of for eg Virgin Mary,Jesus (as seen by more than 1 person in Marys case)

Thankyou lookbeyond

[Chester]

EDIT - removed...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...778#post497778

1% of human population belong to the group of so called “abductees/contactees/”chosen ones”; or ¼ of souled humans have been alien victims), do have a chance to liberate or decontaminate themselves, if they choose so (however, it seems that many of abductees/contactees have been suffering from the Stockholm syndrome, Messiah complexes, new-age and other types programming, so as such, they are not likely to undertake the personal decontamination measures)

I am still dealing with those two.

[Flash]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Multiple, powerful points sms - wow!

The tricky part for some of us is with regards to those who are victims of, practitioners of or indirect but knowledgeable support participants of the purported SRA and RHandAS.

I have had difficult discussions (call them arguments) with others on the forum who suggest a.) most of these purported activities are Hollywood (fake) pictures and videos and b.) those who have had direct experiences and have escaped the grip's of these cults are deluded in their minds.

I make the odds that most of the alternative community's suspicions having a great deal of merit quite high.

I am someone who has not had direct (remembered) experiences along these lines but there's just too much constant information coming about about all this all the time - see the video posted by Flash above.

This practice seems like a ball and chain on the entire human experience. One would think that there has to be a tiny degree of inner question among those among us who are directly involved. There has to be a wish... even if its just tiny one, in so many of those folks that their children would not have to be a victim of or a programmed, next generation facilitator for the beings who feed off others through stealing their soul ultimately behind it all.

When we look at it this way, its not about "saving" anything, its about the future of all our children.

But again... the how?

At least folks like Houman have the guts enough to create and maintain a thread like this on an important internet forum. He mentioned perhaps the best approach for now is the raising of awareness.

I sure do appreciate all of your posts, sms.

those who give their children to such cults/illuminatis/etc. are given advantages (money, prestige, power, etc) and those who refuse to give their children, if well implanted in the cult, are just killed. They are never allowed out. Most people are too weak in either way, for power, or against death threat. Few parents would truly give their life for their child. I know I would if necessary, but I know the dad of my child would not, for example (believe me,this is a cold, right to the point evaluation, no ex wife resentment here).