Going into light after death... or not?

[greybeard]

Hi Donk
you might be ready and not know it.
It doesn’t really matter, for at some point, everyone goes home and the way things are going in this world it may be sooner than we think.
We might all get an upgrade of consciousness.
As far as choosing the colour on death--- I dont think we have a choice the tunnel opens and we automatically go.
The late Dr David Hawkins said that our spiritual vibration. which we have created by our choices in this world, takes us to heaven that we are comfortable with. Jesus said In my Fathers House are many mansions (Heavens)
Regardless we will be just fine.

Chris

[observer]

Posted by greybeard (here)
[....snip]

As far as choosing the color on death--- I don't think we have a choice the tunnel opens and we automatically go.

[....snip]

Chris

I would suggest we do have a choice, Chris. When you see the tunnel of White Light open in front of you, turn around and look for the singularity that is the sun (Golden Light). The White Light is a direct expressway to the Soul Harvesting Apparatus installed on the Moon. That is the reason the light is White.... the Moon is White.

When you do turn around, this is when you will encounter the Archons spoken of in the Nag Hammadi Text - blocking your way.

The Sun is Golden, the color of Love. The sun is the doorway to an hyperdimensional wormhole. It is the way out!!!

This analysis too is the result of a lifetime of studding "information distilled from from years of reading spiritual teachings", and coming to the conclusion - based on the best objective evidence - that the Mass of Humanity is being lied to.

The Moon is a reincarnation trap keeping souls imprisoned here within this three dimensional Living Hell.

[donk]

I was sort of joking, I didn't think there was a choice of tunnels...what I am hoping from bits & pieces I'm picking up from the thread that there is a choice, if you can manage not to be enchanted--whether it's truly the overwhelming beauty of Source or a trap--that's what I meant I will have to feel out once I get there.

As to whether I am ready, again we will see...at the moment I find this existence amazing enough to stick with it as long as possible, and want to see what happens here even longer. I'm flexible though, that bridge can be crossed when i get there...

I think objective evidence shows only one thing beyond doubt: very few things degrade personal experience and empowerment more than the fear of death

[Billy]

Posted by billyji (here)
When you live life on earth as an example of Love in action, You create your own light. You shine.

Only one question you will ask yourself when you passover, Did i love. You will know the answer.

Do not worry about which light to follow after death. Live a life of love in the moment then the light you follow will be yours.

Shine on, Peace.

Within the many prisms of consciousness and love there are many colours. Violet, Blue, Yellow, gold, white, Etc.

It is very simple.

Which one you create depends on how you lived your life on earth. Now is the time to take responsibility for your choosing,

If there exists a light trap for souls and you follow it after passing, then it is only because you did not do your homework while you had the choice.

Have no fear. read my signature.

Peace

[greybeard]

Hi Observer
I have a respect for your studies and of course you.
I can not say that I am right.
If and only if the likes of Adyashanti are correct then I am the dreamer and every thought I have is part of the dream which seems very real to me.
You have your dream/experience which because you created it is as valid for you as mine is for me.
So we both can be correct and incorrect.
And yes its a holographic universe--- the only thing is I have no way of knowing did God/I am that create this or something else?
I dont see something other than "I am that" creating it.
Yes we have been lied to big time--I have no doubt about that.
Bottom line is I believe enlightened souls who are uniform in what they say for thousands of years.
The cycle of life and death, reincarnation, karma can be escaped from.

Chris

[observer]

Posted by billyji (here)
In response to billyji's comment #84

The Ancient Egyptians referred to this as, "balancing the weight of your heart against a feather", billy.

I agree, it is all about living your life in Love. But there is also a trapping mechanism in place. Yeshua ben Joseph spoke of this, but you must be able to interpret his metaphors. This is what the Gnosis was all about. This is why the Roman Empire - as agents of Rex Mundi - annihilated the Gnostic Christians, who were the original Christian Society.

[Billy]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
In response to billyji's comment #84

The Ancient Egyptians referred to this as, "balancing the weight of your heart against a feather", billy.

I agree, it is all about living your life in Love. But there is also a trapping mechanism in place. Yeshua ben Joseph spoke of this, but you must be able to interpret his metaphors. This is what the Gnosis was all about. This is why the Roman Empire - as agents of Rex Mundi - annihilated the Gnostic Christians, who were the original Christian Society.

Therefore living your life as an example of love, as Yeshua did. You have no worry of being trapped.

Peace

[Finefeather]

Posted by observer (here)
The White Light is a direct expressway to the Soul Harvesting Apparatus installed on the Moon. That is the reason the light is White.... the Moon is White.

Just take a quick look at this and tell me how white the moon is? Looks more golden to me..

http://www.atalaia.org/filipe/moon/colorofthemoon.htm

[observer]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
In response to billyji's comment #84

The Ancient Egyptians referred to this as, "balancing the weight of your heart against a feather", billy.

I agree, it is all about living your life in Love. But there is also a trapping mechanism in place. Yeshua ben Joseph spoke of this, but you must be able to interpret his metaphors. This is what the Gnosis was all about. This is why the Roman Empire - as agents of Rex Mundi - annihilated the Gnostic Christians, who were the original Christian Society.

Therefore living your life as an example of love, as Yeshua did. You have no worry of being trapped.

Peace

Archon, Pronunciation: Ar-konz • (noun)

Archon, in Greek, means "authority," and comes from the same root as "arch," as in "archangel."

In Gnostic belief, Archons were planetary rulers and guardians of the spiritual planes. The archons were associated with the seven visible planets, and perceived as agents of the Demiurge, predatory beings who inhibit spiritual awakening by convincing humanity of a false reality, forces of sin and temptation. - emphasis added by observer.

According to the Nag Hammadi Text, there are methods for avoiding them, but one must first be aware of their presence, how they work, and how to avoid them. This is why the reports of what Yeshua said regarding them were excluded from the New Testament.

Having a heart filled with Love is not enough. Understanding the mechanism of control is the key to ascension.

Wishing you Greater Peace....

[observer]

Posted by Finefeather (here)

Posted by observer (here)
The White Light is a direct expressway to the Soul Harvesting Apparatus installed on the Moon. That is the reason the light is White.... the Moon is White.

Just take a quick look at this and tell me how white the moon is? Looks more golden to me..

http://www.atalaia.org/filipe/moon/colorofthemoon.htm

Come-on Ray, you can do better than that. The website you offered is all about how to color-enhance the Moon using Photoshop.

Photoshop is a image manipulating tool, and has nothing to do with what is being reported.

I challenge you to go-out and stare at the Moon. Then report-back how much Golden Color you see.

The color examples I'm reporting are for comparison values only. The telepathic mind manipulating technology installed on the Moon dates back into antiquity to the Dawn of Man. It is all designed to trap individuals into this particular reality.

Take that knowledge into Photoshop and try to confuse the issue with the results....

[greybeard]

There is enough to fear in life without being frightened of what happens when you cross over.
David Icke said "There is nothing but unconditional love everything else is just an illusion"
I agree with that.
It was a welcome relief to find that there is no judgement-- apart from our own life review.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HXQsb7tSwUE

Neurosurgeon for the last 25 years, Eben Alexander, M.D., discussed his transcendental Near-Death Experience (NDE), in which he was driven to the brink of death and spent a week deep in coma in 2008 from a severe case of bacterial meningitis. In contrast to many other NDEs, his memory of his life on Earth was wiped out during his experience. He first went into a long period of being in a dark, murky place with the sense of roots or vessels around him, and a monotonous pounding sound. "It was from that that I was actually rescued by a floating, very fine white light," that had a beautiful melody, he said. From there, the spinning light opened into a lovely, verdant valley with butterflies and flowers, and a beautiful girl, whom he later learned was like his guardian angel. This area turned out to be a gateway, where he first recognized "the divine creative power beneath it all."

He felt a sense of love, and then traveled out to the universe, into "an infinite cold black void that was filled with that love, and also had this brilliant orb of light...There was this awareness of three of us, that divine infinitely knowing and loving creative source whom many would call God, this brilliant orb of light, and then my consciousness which was far beyond the consciousness of any individual," he detailed. During the experience, Alexander was told that he would be shown many things, but he was only there temporarily, and would eventually be returning to Earth. After his recovery, one of his conclusions based on his NDE, was that neuroscience is very far from understanding how memory works, "and I now believe that a lot of memory is actually associated with processes that are outside of the physical brain and physical universe"

Show from 2012-11-29 with George Noory & Linda Moulton Howe
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Investigative reporter Linda Moulton Howe discussed the extraordinary near-death experience (NDE) of Dr. Eben Alexander.


Link to the book:
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http://www.coasttocoastam.com

[Billy]

Thank you Greybeard for the above video. The video compliments the experience of André Luiz - Astral City. Which i found in another thread here on Avalon. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ian#post668474

http://www.geae.inf.br/en/books/ac/AstralCity.PDF



Here is a small quote.

On Earth, however, our good resolutions are like a flickering flame in a
immense see of aggressive forces. “
“Don’t say that.” Answered the generous Minister. “You mustn’t attach
so much importance to the influence of the lower zones – it would be the same
as arming the enemy against ourselves. The field of ideas is also a battlefield.
Any really constructive light we may kindle on Earth will shine forever, for
the hurricane of human passions can never blow out a single one of God’s
lights.”
Our hostess seemed deeply impressed by the Minister’s words. She
radically changed her mental attitude and spoke cheerfully:


And here.

A Message from André Luiz
Life never ceases. Life is an overflowing source, and death is only an
obscure effect of illusions.
The great river follows its own course before joining the vast sea.
Likewise, the soul follows equally varied routes and passes through different
stages, receiving here and there tributaries of knowledge, strengthening its
personality and perfecting its qualities before reaching the Ocean of Eternal
Wisdom.
The closing of our earthly eyes is such a simple event.
The shedding of the physical body does not solve the fundamental
problems of enlightenment, just as changing ones clothes has nothing to do
with the deep questions of life and destiny.
Ah, paths of the soul, mysterious ways of the heart! One must walk
their full lengths before facing the supreme equation of Eternal Life. It is
essential for you to live all their conflicts and to know them fully in the long
process of spiritual ascension.

How childish to imagine that the mere "ringing down of the curtain"
would settle transcendental questions of the Infinite.
One life is but a single act.
One body - a garment.
One century - a day.
One task - an experience.
One triumph - an acquisition.
One death - a breath of renovation.
How many lives, how many bodies, how many centuries, how many
tasks, how many triumphs, how many deaths are still allotted to us?

End Quote:

[Finefeather]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by Finefeather (here)

Posted by observer (here)
The White Light is a direct expressway to the Soul Harvesting Apparatus installed on the Moon. That is the reason the light is White.... the Moon is White.

Just take a quick look at this and tell me how white the moon is? Looks more golden to me..

http://www.atalaia.org/filipe/moon/colorofthemoon.htm

Come-on Ray, you can do better than that. The website you offered is all about how to color-enhance the Moon using Photoshop.

Photoshop is a image manipulating tool, and has nothing to do with what is being reported.

I challenge you to go-out and stare at the Moon. Then report-back how much Golden Color you see.

The color examples I'm reporting are for comparison values only. The telepathic mind manipulating technology installed on the Moon dates back into antiquity to the Dawn of Man. It is all designed to trap individuals into this particular reality.

Take that knowledge into Photoshop and try to confuse the issue with the results....

What amazes me is that some people still think that the moon gives off light of it's own..
The moon appears white in the day because of the filtering in the atmosphere...it changes color at times also depending on the angle and it's position relative to where you are.
I have seen it an orange color and a yellow and even a blue hazy color. When you are in the open away from the cities you will be amazed how beautiful it can be sometimes.

Of course the link I gave is a photoshop...it says so...I was showing the beauty of the moon.

You dear observer are just trying to convince people of some idea you have in your mind, which despite your so called evidence is just not true.
Of course the only time you are going to get your true answer...the one that will convince you...is the day you die...hope you'll contact one of us on earth to inform us of the truth.
Take care brother
Ray

[observer]

Posted by Finefeather (here)
In response to Finefeather's comment # 93.

As an observer, Ray, my job is to report on the observations I've made. I'm not here to "convince" anyone of these analyses. It is the responsibility of each individual to decern for themselves what has been reported. It is my habit to give research references with many of my comments, so that any individual is free to look at the evidence themselves. Few among the members do the actual research.

The foundational hypothesis of these reports is that the Mass of Humanity has been lied to since the Dawn of Man.

This continuing lie is obvious with any in-depth study of multiple sources of what is commonly referred to as "channeled material". It matters not whether that source is a prophet, seer, clairvoyant, or any other name you wish to apply to this telepathically implanted thought process. The general message is - and has been since the Dawn of Man - "go back to sleep.... everything will be OK".

If you happened to be among the many who have had their world cave-in on them, say for instance, that Palestinian mother holding the lifeless body of her dead infant, while huddled in a corner of her bombed-out home, you will clearly see that "everything is NOT OK. Yet, the telepathically implanted message remains the same.... since the Dawn of Man.

This, sir, is why I report my observations to the members. Many among us don't see that the telepathically implanted message is tainted.

I'm certain that gentle animal, trained to lead the flock down the chute to the slaughter house, has no idea of what it is doing either....

[greybeard]

Some of what you say Observer is without doubt correct.
I believe that our ancient history is very different from that which we are taught.
I have no doubt that there is a very serious attempt to control us.
Fear is the main control tool.
You without realising it are pointing to a frightening end result, which I dont believe for one moment.
Can God be captured imprisoned, be fed off by parasitic beings?
I think not.
Just one enlightened story.
Alexander the Great heard of a Yogi who could do amazing things. Alexander summoned the mystic--he did not come.
Alexander went to see him and said "If you do not come with me I will cut off your head with my sword"
The mystic said "Then we will both watch it fall to the ground"
The strongest weapon of fear was lying to people about what would happen after death.
You are not lying Observer but the people who wrote the books etc you have got the info from have perhaps been lied to.
Every single mystic and most of the Near Death Experiencers tell of a loving God that they are one with---separation never occurred-- even science is now proving that everything is interconnected.
The Sage will say--"I am the totality, all of it"
They are coming from a place of direct experience not book knowledge.
Literally anything that happens to one happens to all.
Anything that adds to fear lowers the collective consciousness.
Any act thought word or deed that is kind lifts the collective as proved in "Power vs Force" by Dr David Hawkins
As far as choice goes there is only love or fear-- choose wisely is the standard advice.

Chris

[observer]

Posted by greybeard (here)
In reply to greybeard's comment #95.

Why don't we all.... just go back to sleep, and submit to another a$$-biting eternity of birth-death-rebirth?

I would submit, Chris, this "fear mantra" is simply more regurgitation from the telepathic thought controllers. I have seen this "fear is our great enemy" mantra reappear in the channeled message, ad infinitum.

It is my impression that the emotion of fear is not what is being fed upon. All forms of extreme emotions are what draw the Archons to your presence. It is the memories of your past lives that is being taken from your eternal soul.

Fear can be one of our best survival tools. Use it wisely....

[Finefeather]

Posted by observer (here)
Fear can be one of our best survival tools. Use it wisely....

Hi observer...
Sure...if you meet up with a great big grizzly bear in the forest...run like hell

But it certainly does not beat wisdom...when you can lie down and pretend your dead and relieve the threat from the bear, who will himself recover from his fear of you.
Fear is lack of understanding of the outcome of an event...and most times it ends up in a false alarm.
Fear is what gets us into an emotional state from which we accept things we would not normally accept...and do things we would not normally do.

Do not confuse fear with smart thinking.

Wisdom is knowing who you are and what the real outcome of threats are...and knowing what the best course of action would be to neutralize the threat.

Take care
Ray

[greybeard]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
In reply to greybeard's comment #95.

Why don't we all.... just go back to sleep, and submit to another a$$-biting eternity of birth-death-rebirth?

I would submit, Chris, this "fear mantra" is simply more regurgitation from the telepathic thought controllers. I have seen this "fear is our great enemy" mantra reappear in the channeled message, ad infinitum.

It is my impression that the emotion of fear is not what is being fed upon. All forms of extreme emotions are what draw the Archons to your presence. It is the memories of your past lives that is being taken from your eternal soul.

Fear can be one of our best survival tools. Use it wisely....

Hi Observer
yes fear can be positive.
As to going back to sleep-- its a question of who exactly is in the dream and who is awake?
I put my money on the sages being fully awake and some personal experiences lead me to believe what they say.
The path they point to and have trod is right for me.
When David Icke can say "Only unconditional love is real--the rest is an illusion" I think with his vast knowledge he is worth listening to.
Fully awake is to be fully aware of the challenges of the world---to be in the world but not off it as Jesus said.

I have no doubt of your genuine concern and compassion Observer --we just see things differently
Regards Chris

[lookbeyond]

Hi Observer, i would be interested in knowing where to look for what Yeshua said in reguard to protecting self/avoiding deception of archons etc at death- if you hav time, where in Bible or Nag H library- thanks lookbeyond

[heyokah]

Posted by Finefeather (here)
Sure...if you meet up with a great big grizzly bear in the forest...run like hell

But it certainly does not beat wisdom...when you can lie down and pretend your dead and relieve the threat from the bear, who will himself recover from his fear of you.

---

Do not confuse fear with smart thinking.

A hungry bear will think.... "Wow, I love those 'smart thinkers', I don't even have to chase them. They really make my day!"

Posted by Finefeather (here)
Fear is lack of understanding of the outcome of an event...and most times it ends up in a false alarm.
Fear is what gets us into an emotional state from which we accept things we would not normally accept...and do things we would not normally do.

I agree with that.
It's all just ignorance and fear of death...... and the Archons love it, like they love all kinds of extreme emotions.
Just read the news, watch TV..... and so on.

Posted by Finefeather (here)

Wisdom is knowing who you are and what the real outcome of threats are...and knowing what the best course of action would be to neutralize the threat.

Yes, that requires a lot of discernment, which is one of the highest levels of spiritual growth.
Then good information about the control and the 'Lie We Live In' will not result in fear anymore.

Like I said in another thread:

"When information is falling like seed on unprepared ground, it might end up in fear, anger or the feeling of being personally attacked.
All that depends on the energy level on which the receiver is vibrating at that moment, the element Earth, Water or Fire (fear - basic emotions - pride and ego).

Only from the vibration level of Air (where Heart resides) and higher (Ether, Sound and Light), the information will probably be understood with discernment, creativity and in full awareness (consciousness) so it can be transformed into something fruitful."



And yes, greybeard,

"Only unconditional love is real--the rest is an illusion"

Unfortunately, we are stuck here in this illusion, this hologram we are forced to live in. And we need a lot of information being spread to free ourselves and the masses out of this prison.

Much love,
heyokah