the murder of LRH

[markpierre]

Posted by jiminii (here)

ok good Idea ... I am back in the boat I will cut out the piece that just popped up in my universe .. about his death ... because it seems, (can't prove it.) that he wants it known
and be back in a bit ... have to find it
jim

He died. He's dead. He couldn't have died in any better way. And now he knows that 'dead' is just an idea.

And that's about all there is of the story, that can have anything to do with Reality.

[Prodigal Son]

Hey Jim,

I am sure that if you took this information to the vast majority of other forums, they would attempt to annihilate you, even crucify you. They would call you every name in the book. What you're preaching is just another form of gnosis, which is nothing strange to everyone here. In fact I would go so far as to say that this is what separates this place from most others, the fact that we are open to the endless possibilities of human potential. So if there are a few here who are giving you a hard time, not only should it be expected, and you should be prepared for it, but I can guarantee you that in most other places, the spamming and garbage that would be foisted onto these threads would make you run away in disgust rather quickly.

Please carry on doing what you're doing, and don't take any negative comments personally. I very much appreciate the information you are giving us, and I'm sure many others feel that way too. We know how to take information in and run it through our processors. We can discern truth from BS, or at least decide on what resonates as truth and leave the rest for future considerations. Please continue.

Lou

[jiminii]

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by markpierre (here)

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Posted by markpierre (here)
It's your path jiminii, then run with it. But like anyone that discovers something that reveals something to them, there's a passage the ego passes though.
They tend to get caught up in the method, and attach what was revealed to that. They don't have to, but often do. Very often."That's it! I've got it! Everyone needs this!"
It isn't true. It isn't truth. 'Truth' is You, and in ever expanding discoveries of yourSelf. Whatever the method.
And while we're out there promoting our method, we're ignoring and qualifying what it is that was revealed. Squeezing it into a box called EST, called ACIM,
called Buddhism, the Sedona Method, Scientology. I talk to Spirits.
Whatever. I guarantee that when enough of yourSelf has been revealed, you won't be attached to 'how' you became You.
You'll just be You. Probably won't be much of anything to say about it.
There are exactly as many 'methods' as there are identities incarnate, that's how personal awakening is.

If you have to defend a position you've taken, it isn't much of a position.

well how about someone give me and audio interview since I don't want people to see me and endanger my ability to travel ,... oh my god ,,,, looks like I just put in another storm here ,... out of the blue .. it's cool ... too hot anyway ,,,, my own air condition system ... haha

jim

Well how 'bout we forget about LRon and intrigue and Scientology and all the machinery and method that was a means to an end,
or hopefully will be one, and just tell us what You know. That might be really useful. No controversy should be possible in that.
Who could argue 'You' with You?

We're here together to offer each other solutions, and help keep each other safe and steady in whatever process we're in.
The pirates, and the trolls, and the agents, and the PTW are in the same bloody boat as we are. Might as well accept them.
There isn't really anyone here, or out there, that knows anything about it, because it's too damn new. But if we're going to tell each other stories anyway,
they should be encouraging and useful ones.

ok good Idea ... I am back in the boat I will cut out the piece that just popped up in my universe .. about his death ... because it seems, (can't prove it.) that he wants it known
and be back in a bit ... have to find it
jim

they probably, (if I assume his beingness) .. stuck some drugs in him ... it is reported he had 12 or more needle marks in his butt ... and tried to force him to complete these upper levels .. which is amazing ... the story free zone says and what I think .. is different .. he knew he was being infiltrated .... it is possible he went to go handle this at the galactic government... but I know he has other bodies that can do that so why would he do it himself ... and alter the upper OT levels so none of it will work .... Yes ... I got an acknowledgement from LRH just now ... he is some how in communication with me ... and i don't know how he did or I did that.. ... so that is true ... ok what else ... he already had a stroke in curacao so all they would have to do is the same things they did to Peter Gillliam to turn all his property over to them which peter gilliam is suing them for it now and also to his wife to turn over the estate left to her by LRH ... I think using vicious statements like how she got LRH into trouble with the snow white thing ... just everything they could throw at them and he has a stroke ... so then they probably went to gamble .. and try to figure out a way to cover it up ... and use the church to have the autopsy refused ... yes ...it was something like that ... they made a mistake and killed him... now I know what they said ... they said IRS is coming after him and he needs to turnover the church to them .. really intense accusations ... really upsetting him and he has a stroke ..ok ... so you can see the aberrations of one of my other bodies can pass over to me .

this is where I picked up on his death ... I started to anwer the post and then suddenly I assumed LRH beingingness and the script changed

jim

more is coming in
he had a seizure and fell to the floor ... shaking ...so they had a chance to call some ambulance but it scared the life out of them
they had the autopsy refused so they wouldn't know all the other drugs they were putting in him.
then they ran with money they knew he had to gamble and get an alibi ... what do you do when you have something really bad happen ... you go gamble hopping for a miracle so you can leave the country
but they decided to come back and figure out a way they could say he belongs to the church and for religious reasons they don't want an autopsy done on him

it was something like this and now the withhold is pulled .. they will not be able to survive this in the future

jim

[jiminii]

Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
Hey Jim,

I am sure that if you took this information to the vast majority of other forums, they would attempt to annihilate you, even crucify you. They would call you every name in the book. What you're preaching is just another form of gnosis, which is nothing strange to everyone here. In fact I would go so far as to say that this is what separates this place from most others, the fact that we are open to the endless possibilities of human potential. So if there are a few here who are giving you a hard time, not only should it be expected, and you should be prepared for it, but I can guarantee you that in most other places, the spamming and garbage that would be foisted onto these threads would make you run away in disgust rather quickly.

Please carry on doing what you're doing, and don't take any negative comments personally. I very much appreciate the information you are giving us, and I'm sure many others feel that way too. We know how to take information in and run it through our processors. We can discern truth from BS, or at least decide on what resonates as truth and leave the rest for future considerations. Please continue.

Lou

what thread should I continue on?

jim

[eaglespirit]

This is probably the only place on earth...right here and now, to share, Jim

[jiminii]

Posted by Padmé (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)

Posted by Padmé (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)

so we don't know how many people are on sites like this that are hired to put disinformation on this website and discredit any valid information that someone can come up with ,.. so I will write the entire story first so they can not distort it and it is all in sequence ,,, time place and event and let anyone see by themselves and make their own choices

jim

Brilliant, just brilliant!!! Haha... was wondering when you'd start accusing anyone who dared question your words of being disinfo agents

what is coming now is coming from my perceptions ... I have felt LRH presence in the past so I do know the presence and it is here now ...which is a bit confusing because if I am he then I should know everything that he knows ... but the spirit Metteyya with different timelines means operating another body with a different thetan .. the thing is mettreyya the spirit knows all but that is what limits its ability to look into the physical universe because if it knows too much that part will be vanished ,,, so the memory records or knowingness must somehow be there ,, but the timelines or thetans operating other bodies have their own separate timeline of data ... I can't see them .. but maybe they can see me ... for example when cathy got in communication with her timeline on base 2 that timeline did not know there was another body operating on another planet ... and the LRH (not this LRH but from this planet but the metteyya viewpont there that might have a different name) ..there was her other timelines husband ... and he was not aware of this too but after some communication they now know ,.,., so the metteyya that is putting the bodies here ,,, might be metteyya herself and by opening up the connections by giving cathy a sec check (security check using the meter), let her see she had other time lines ,,, it was done on a sec check that she did not want to answer ,,, and my awareness of it was done asking the commands on the time track of theta tapes ... and maybe it wasn't done that well because I have no clear vision of those time lines ... maybe because it was the first time trey ask those commands ... but then there is the timelines in the future ... wow ... didn't look there before ,,, there are Metteyya viewpoints there ,.. but in the spirit ,,, or they have a make shift robot ... no they are not connected to robots there is another kind of labratory for creating GE's and programming them to operate stuff for them,,,,, ,,, looks like ,,,, that they run it exterior ... outside of body ... they have done something to protect their existence ,,, don't really know what it is .... they are creating the new spirit beings and programming them to do certain functions .... the indigos and crystal and rainbow is pulled somehow out of source in some other protected time portal hidden from view .... these time portals can protect them because they can see them trying to get through the time portal before it happens ... but reptilians have no ability to move their ghost and/or spirit through the portal ,..oh well there is no spirit for 80 or 90 percent .... so the ghost gets killed going through the portal ...... oh I get it ... these portals are setup to kill any GE that tries to come through it without first being approved .... something like that ... he wants me to tell something else ... don't know what ... it will probably come up later sometime .(ok he wanted me to tell the part about the portals can be setup to kill GE's that try to come through the portal).. anyway it isn't my intention to get in a battle with anyone here ,,, since youth I have always been so innocent of verbal abuse and I really don't know how to compete with it ...they would just end up making me look like the enemy so I really don't want to answer people's questions about some other persons ideas of some other tech I know nothing about or any of the attacks on scientology .. i don't know this because I haven't seen it myself ... I have only heard it or read it ,, so I would just rather not answer them but is that a solution maybe I should say look if you haven't personally seen it yourself please don't give out other people's possible disinformation ....

jim

Jim, I hope you are not posting this response to me... I haven't shared any information, let alone disinformation... Look back at my posts... any questions I have posed to you are based on your writings, your responses and others responses in favour of your words... which, again, I must add, that I have been genuinely reading with an open mind, taking from it what I resonate with and leaving out what I dont... It is your experience after all! And thos who fully resonate with all your words will do as they wish... its simple really! Its the sense that not all the intent that is present on your threads is clear (IMO)... be it due to what you say or others say. This is a forum, a place for discussion... If you want to write your posts and have no one ask a question, then I advise you start a blog.

no I got it ... ok well about the meter .. it seems they were doing everything they could to stop me from getting the training to let me go back and see my truth.
at Flag service org I started the meter course and was on it for a few days then I was pulled off and told I need to twin with a staff member not public ... they could only find one on the entire base of more than 300 staff and she comes one day .. then quits saying she had to get her statistics up ... ,,, so I don't have training on the meter or auditing ,,, I only know the little auditing they did on me and I could see how it works ,,.

I did my OT ability testing in 4 different organizations of their's and my postulates were senior in all 4 orgs ... so ... i had no idea what I was until I met cathy and she recognized me and she had an ability to see me or something in me or my spirit or whatever and both her and her friends thought I was another LRH in a different body .. the second friend right off the bat said ... LRH ... but we didn't have proof until I went to trey .I went to trey and on the question to check if i was him .... I had a blow down with floating needle though I didn't want to say yes ... but I did ... and blew down laughing for a long time ,, but I still couldn't believe it .. also trey would not have been able to ask these questions or do these processes if he was still at FSO .... so it must have really been strange for him to ask me if I am LRH ... and he could not hide the doubt in him until we did some more sessions and he cogged on something and shook my hand like for real when I left ...

so I don't know how to answer anyone's questions on the meter ... or auditing ... only the little I did ... I changed the idea to .. "god .. if I could only find some of these indigo or crystal or rainbow ... I think we can open them up with just the things I do in my space .. their beings can pick it up like I found in this rainbow over here in asia\
my postulates with her .. was almost instantaneous happen so quick I could almost see the being was getting it but the child wasn't

but .. the other thing is this ... don't know how much time we got ... it depends a lot on the awakening .... if this will cause it to get more awakened .. the other beingnesses might agree with me to keep that pole shift from happening to a later date ...

jim

[judymoon]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Wow Jim, three LRH threads in just your first week, quite the show you're putting on. Now I know Bill discourages proselytizing here, as is contained in his welcome to new members message,

There are deep, dark games played here, and there is much deliberate deception both on the physical (electromagnetic) and astral levels. We encourage intelligent inquiry - and discourage proselytizing and anything that smacks of promoting belief systems of any kind.

but the exception being made in this case is actually beginning to become quite comical and entertaining. It's no wonder I now can't get this old classic Phil Collins song/video out of my head, he nails it beautifully.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EprQGmZ3Imw

Carry on ship mate.

Very well put, Fred. This has all been quite an eye-opener.

[Nothingness]

I am glad that the jiminii posts are resonating with some people. I will admit they don’t resonate with me. I will admit every time I get near them my BS meter goes off. I will admit I was put off by the inconsistencies, references, and other elements.

But also, who knows, maybe I have some past karmic and past experiences (and some I have already admitted to) that are coloring my outlook with regard to these posts. I admit that, too. Can I be ignorant sometimes? Without a doubt. Can I be wrong or off center about some things? Without a doubt.

I can relate to what Paul says: “Some of those here know well of what you speak, and perhaps could say more in support of what you say. Some of those here know little of what you speak, and mostly just watch, making some sense of bits and pieces of it, but having little to add, or even ask, at this time. Some of those here on this forum are paying no attention to these threads, as their interests lay elsewhere at this time. Some of those here sense some threat or some regrettable confusion in your words, and respond, in an effort to contain the threat or clarify the confusion.”

I’ve been in all of those categories at different times for different things.

Maybe it is my experience, too, that I’ve tried every BS methodology for inner growth out there, or close to that, and I’ve found that going inward, surrendering, and embracing simplicity is what finally has brought me closer to peace and truth and more success with inner growth. But that’s just me.

I can’t deny that people who I respect on this forum, even though I am new on this forum, see something I don’t, and I can’t ignore that. So, though no one has to address this, would those who do relate to this, or even just one person, say a little more why they do?

Or is it too much to ask? Or, maybe it is a case of either you get it or you don’t. Could one person tell me a few of the benefits they’ve experienced? How it has made them a better person—a more compassionate enlightened person? I don’t need facts. I am an intuitive person, so facts don’t matter as much to me, and maybe that’s part of the issue why I am not relating to this?

But I also think people need to be careful about considering themselves better because they do relate to this. I would like to remind people that often “developmentally disabled” people are more open and apt to become enlightened because they don’t “over-complicate” matters. So, what am I saying? I’m trying to defend myself as a simpleton on this issue? Possibly, but I don’t think what I am asking is too much. If people truly understand this, then it shouldn’t be an issue to address what I’ve asked in simplistic terms.

[Nothingness]

Apologies for another post after that huge, long one. Maybe the issue for people like me is that I have gotten some of the results jiminii talks about by not using the methods he talks about in a less roundabout way--so to each their own.

My way certainly isn't the only way or necessarily the right way for anyone else, and maybe my objections are just that jiminii's methods don't resonate with me at this point. I apologize if I have offended you jiminii, but I just can't relate. We are all on different paths. I see things differently.

[Sidney]

Posted by Nothingness (here)
I am glad that the jiminii posts are resonating with some people. I will admit they don’t resonate with me. I will admit every time I get near them my BS meter goes off. I will admit I was put off by the inconsistencies, references, and other elements.

But also, who knows, maybe I have some past karmic and past experiences (and some I have already admitted to) that are coloring my outlook with regard to these posts. I admit that, too. Can I be ignorant sometimes? Without a doubt. Can I be wrong or off center about some things? Without a doubt.

I can relate to what Paul says: “Some of those here know well of what you speak, and perhaps could say more in support of what you say. Some of those here know little of what you speak, and mostly just watch, making some sense of bits and pieces of it, but having little to add, or even ask, at this time. Some of those here on this forum are paying no attention to these threads, as their interests lay elsewhere at this time. Some of those here sense some threat or some regrettable confusion in your words, and respond, in an effort to contain the threat or clarify the confusion.”

I’ve been in all of those categories at different times for different things.

Maybe it is my experience, too, that I’ve tried every BS methodology for inner growth out there, or close to that, and I’ve found that going inward, surrendering, and embracing simplicity is what finally has brought me closer to peace and truth and more success with inner growth. But that’s just me.

I can’t deny that people who I respect on this forum, even though I am new on this forum, see something I don’t, and I can’t ignore that. So, though no one has to address this, would those who do relate to this, or even just one person, say a little more why they do?

Or is it too much to ask? Or, maybe it is a case of either you get it or you don’t. Could one person tell me a few of the benefits they’ve experienced? How it has made them a better person—a more compassionate enlightened person? I don’t need facts. I am an intuitive person, so facts don’t matter as much to me, and maybe that’s part of the issue why I am not relating to this?

But I also think people need to be careful about considering themselves better because they do relate to this. I would like to remind people that often “developmentally disabled” people are more open and apt to become enlightened because they don’t “over-complicate” matters. So, what am I saying? I’m trying to defend myself as a simpleton on this issue? Possibly, but I don’t think what I am asking is too much. If people truly understand this, then it shouldn’t be an issue to address what I’ve asked in simplistic terms.

The thing is, what Jim is trying to tell us is that we are all equal, all gods, and we all have the same abilities, and his goal here is to help us find the quickest route to get there possible. lets face it, what we are up against is BIG. TPTB have money and technology beyond our imaginations. So we better get our shiit together and figure out a way to take back what is rightfully ours. Our power, our planet. If he THINKS he is Matteyya, maybe he is. Maybe he isn't and doesn'n know it. Many of us, myself included have not had the privaledge or opportunity to have any kind of regression therapy, and if we did I am sure we would find things in our history that we had no idea. Anyway my point is, we should be paying attention to the things that are not arguable. Like learning how to use the powers we were born with.

[Hervé]

Posted by jiminii (here)
[...]

... keep that pole shift from happening to a later date ...

jim

Hi jim,

Where is that idea of a pole shift coming from?

And what kind of pole shift? Magnetic inversion? Earth crust slipping over mantle (and what would cause that)? Earth rotation axis shifting from current 23 degrees with respect to ecliptic (and what would cause that)?

[jiminii]

there are two viewpoints ,,, one is that because we are crossing the equatorial plane the planets will automatically have a pole shift ,, comes from someone who says he from andromeda and his name is captain bill
but so much of his data he has been saying since 2010 sounds very authentic but because I don't see anything that shows anything about the spirit itself i think maybe some of his data is true ,., but if some of it is true what? ... i have the idea that he could be giving enough truth to get your attention but also putting in the disinformation to create some effect .., but I still don't trust it .. I just look and wait ...see if any of it comes true ... he is saying that there are some very large space ships and that elinin was a comet and they followed it and waited until they got an agreement to what they would do with it and then they destroyed it ... but he said the real nibiru is following with a small solar system behind it .. and they took one of the huge ships the size of jupiter and moved it out of its orbit ...but now they have to put it back into its orbit and the reason was to keep it from getting too close to us ,,, but he is saying that the pole shift is coming somewhere around october ,,, so I can't verify it
nor can I verify this man name tolec .,,

and I don't know much about this website ,,, so I put out what I thought might happen to see what response I would get .. then I withdrew ... to see what response i would get ,.. and then finally bill caught up with me and I could see what he was looking at ... so I got it and now I can remove some of the disinformation ...

as for the furture ... I listened to alex collier's interview I think in september 2012 and he said .. this time has already happened .,, and that opened the door ... he said they are sending people from the future back to this time ... to change it .... and I have never looked at much of his data ... but this one really opened the door
I looked from the spirit part of me to see what was there and it started to as you people put it resonate ... WOW what a clever idea ... do this stuff from the future ... they have found a way to place us (the spirit) back to this time ... and everything aligned ... Now I know what happened .... LRH came from the future and was in direct contact with base 2 ...and that is how he could get the information to evaluate the persons he audits case ... they could see the effects on a spirit and correct the processing

that opened up a new door .. I already had located my bodies and the indigo and crystal and rainbow children so I could not continue the processing .. there were to many viewpoints to locate so it would take forever to locate all of them

but I had enough to try to put it all together and I saw bill is right on .. so I immediately dropped the disinformation from the other sites ... I see here I found a group I can work with ..

sorry if I confused everyone and I apologize for that but I was able to align the data much faster when I saw what bill was looking at. now this body can't see it ... but this being can ... and I was able to drop the disinformation immediately
sorry for the withdraw .. I did the withdraw so I could see who would reach and what they would say and who was interested

jim

[Nothingness]

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
The thing is, what Jim is trying to tell us is that we are all equal, all gods, and he all have the same abilities, and his goal here is to help us find the route to get us there as quick as possible. lets face it, whrightfully at we are up against is BIG. TPTB have money and technology beyond our imaginations. So we better get our shiit together and figure out a way to take back what is ours. Our power, our planet. If he THINKS he is Matteyya, maybe he is. Maybe he isn't and doesn'n know it. Many of us, myself included have not had the privaledge or opportunity to have any kind of regression therapy, and if we did I am sure we would find things in our history that we had no idea. Anyway my point is, we should be paying attention to the things that are not arguable. Like learning how to use the powers we were born with.

Thank you for pointing this out Wantsthetruth74, but most methodologies and paths say this. It's nothing new. This is not something I don't understand. I don't feel a lot of light coming out of the posts and I don't see anyone else actually saying: yes, this led to a great deal of spiritual growth in me, and I actually feel love pouring out of them via their post because yes you can feel highly evolved light.

When there is a lot of talk and not much compassion or love, I have my doubts. I have yet to see any quick fixes that work. I don't see a plethora of people coming out of this in a truly enlightened high state. They can claim to be in a enlightened high state, but that doesn't mean they are. People may change, but to what? And there is a lot of outward emphasis and not a lot of inner work going on.

My belief is that all of this drama going on is currently there for a reason--to awaken and transform people; the form it takes is superfluous. Choosing a path out of anxiety is probably not a good idea. The pain is there for a reason, and what I see are a lot of people trying to find quick fixes that allow them to avoid the pain and anxiety. They are running like crazy from one quick fix to another to avoid pain. I still go with: The only way out of pain is through it.

My belief is that surrendering takes us to higher states. Enlightenment is an eternal process (we never arrive at an end point) going from one state to a higher state, and surrender is a part of that, going from more surrender to more surrender. Unfortunately, facing all that life/existence dishes out is a part of it, and work and persistence is also a part of it. And just like life is what IS, higher states come to us through work and patience and time and a divine grace and lifetimes, not through some quick fix. It's our egos that think: Oh, this, this is the one "miracle" fix that will deliver me out of my misery and I won't have to face this any more.

My belief is that Jesus and Buddha were trying to tell us that by facing trials (nailed to a cross/whatever) head on and surrendering, we can transcend (we are in a body on this planet for a reason), but I have yet to run across any high teachings that said there was an easy way out--and yes there are adulterated teachings, but discernment is a part of the process, too.

Some Buddhists have so transcended and surrendered that they can burn alive without anxiety. They certainly aren't going: "Ouch, ouch, oh ouch; I think I need to try something else besides Buddhism because I'm in a hurry, there must be a quicker way out of this pain." I'm laughing. Sigh. I don't claim to be in a highly enlightened state, and frankly, I could utilize my time better for my own growth because being on a forum doesn't necessarily make any of us candidates for a highly enlightened state. Laughing again. This is a stop off for everyone. Sigh.

[Sidney]

Posted by Nothingness (here)

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
The thing is, what Jim is trying to tell us is that we are all equal, all gods, and he all have the same abilities, and his goal here is to help us find the route to get us there as quick as possible. lets face it, whrightfully at we are up against is BIG. TPTB have money and technology beyond our imaginations. So we better get our shiit together and figure out a way to take back what is ours. Our power, our planet. If he THINKS he is Matteyya, maybe he is. Maybe he isn't and doesn'n know it. Many of us, myself included have not had the privaledge or opportunity to have any kind of regression therapy, and if we did I am sure we would find things in our history that we had no idea. Anyway my point is, we should be paying attention to the things that are not arguable. Like learning how to use the powers we were born with.

Thank you for pointing this out Wantsthetruth74, but most methodologies and paths say this. It's nothing new. This is not something I don't understand. I don't feel a lot of light coming out of the posts and I don't see anyone else actually saying: yes, this led to a great deal of spiritual growth in me, and I actually feel love pouring out of them via their post because yes you can feel highly evolved light.

When there is a lot of talk and not much compassion or love, I have my doubts. I have yet to see any quick fixes that work. I don't see a plethora of people coming out of this in a truly enlightened high state. They can claim to be in a enlightened high state, but that doesn't mean they are. People may change, but to what? And there is a lot of outward emphasis and not a lot of inner work going on.

My belief is that all of this drama going on is currently there for a reason--to awaken and transform people; the form it takes is superfluous. Choosing a path out of anxiety is probably not a good idea. The pain is there for a reason, and what I see are a lot of people trying to find quick fixes that allow them to avoid the pain and anxiety. They are running like crazy from one quick fix to another to avoid pain. I still go with: The only way out of pain is through it.

My belief is that surrendering takes us to higher states. Enlightenment is an eternal process (we never arrive at an end point) going from one state to a higher state, and surrender is a part of that, going from more surrender to more surrender. Unfortunately, facing all that life/existence dishes out is a part of it, and work and persistence is also a part of it. And just like life is what IS, higher states come to us through work and patience and time and a divine grace and lifetimes, not through some quick fix. It's our egos that think: Oh, this, this is the one "miracle" fix that will deliver me out of my misery and I won't have to face this any more.

My belief is that Jesus and Buddha were trying to tell us that by facing trials (nailed to a cross/whatever) head on and surrendering, we can transcend (we are in a body on this planet for a reason), but I have yet to run across any high teachings that said there was an easy way out--and yes there are adulterated teachings, but discernment is a part of the process, too.

Some Buddhists have so transcended and surrendered that they can burn alive without anxiety. They certainly aren't going: "Ouch, ouch, oh ouch; I think I need to try something else besides Buddhism because I'm in a hurry, there must be a quicker way out of this pain." I'm laughing. Sigh. I don't claim to be in a highly enlightened state, and frankly, I could utilize my time better for my own growth because being on a forum doesn't necessarily make any of us candidates for a highly enlightened state. Laughing again. This is a stop off for everyone. Sigh.

I don't really know who you are talking about, the enlightened?? Are you referring to ppl that are replying to jiminiis postings?
I don't claim to be enlightened, although I am learning. : ) We are all at different stages of it. That said, I don't think love and light is the purpose of jiminiis journey here. Its to empower us to stop being prisoners in our own home. I don't know about you, that that is what I would like to see happen. Because in my opinion, life on earth sucks, from what I have experienced thus far, and its not exactly an environment suitable for breeding enlightenment. I think that is the whole point of Jims mission. That is my interpretation of it anyway. I don't think he is here teaching enlightenment skills.
Its late, and my brain is starting to go in slo-mo, so if I totally misinterpreted your message, feel free to set me straight, as I am a bit confused.

[jiminii]

there was no regression done on me in my sessions
only processes that were physical like look at the wall ,,, touch that wall ,,, and similar processes

the only regression that was done was caused by me .. the class 8 auditor could not find an earlier similar , to the question ,,,, nothing
I was brand new there ,,, knew almost nothing so I felt quite weird that I couldn't go past track
so I ran a flow through my head
nothing happened
I ran a flow through my head and put a nudge on it,
she says "that"
I find myself back about 750 AD .. don't know if it was france or england but on the top of a hill and looking down in a valley to a castle and a river going around it
now I can't honestly say this is a regression ,,, not what I did ,, it sounds to me that a regression is some kind of hipnotism
this was not anything like that
I went into a quick short gap of total nothingness ,,,and back into the place I went to see ,,, it was more like actually popping out of this time and popping into that time and popping back
when we got to the part of ripping the head off it was as real as me being there in a body swinging a sword watching the sword take off his head
now is that regression or is it more like what is happening now
they popped us somehow back to this time in this body to run this time again
going back to that incident tells me this ,, I had to come up with something for the auditor or they might think something weird about my case so to protect my identity the spirit part just pops me back in time so I can deliver an answer so she would continue the session
I am sitting there trying to find some picture that will take me back
there is nothing there
so I assume the being just picked a time and took me back when I caused a meter reacting and she said "that"
the next session I took over the session not letting the class 8 auditor know what I was doing
I ran the Christ on the cross incident
but I was total cause back there .. i could jump in the body to see what it was and jump out and look .. just like popping back to that time and operating from the viewpoint ... not from some body I might have had
I just used the session to take me back to find out some answers
but each time I had to run the flow and put a nudge on it
the class 8 auditor could not do it with her commands
they never gave me another session after that and that was in 1971
all the commands trey used on me was in PT .. not past track
he would have me look and I would tell him what I saw
no regression

jim

[Hervé]

Posted by jiminii (here)
there are two viewpoints ,,, one is that because we are crossing the equatorial plane the planets will automatically have a pole shift ,, comes from someone who says he from andromeda and his name is captain bill
but so much of his data he has been saying since 2010 sounds very authentic but because I don't see anything that shows anything about the spirit itself i think maybe some of his data is true ,., but if some of it is true what? ... i have the idea that he could be giving enough truth to get your attention but also putting in the disinformation to create some effect .., but I still don't trust it .. I just look and wait ...see if any of it comes true...
[...]

jim

Thanks for answering, jim.

Now, you need to proceed with "False Data Stripping" and once done... here is for (at least) truer data "study": https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...yths-Realities

On that same line of disinfo about pole shifts, Nibiru, sinking lands, etc... there is that CIA outfit called "Zeta talk" channeled through a Nancy Lieder. not much data reliability there either.

You know 'em "Merchants of fear/chaos", right?

As for the "equatorial plane" stint, not much water being held in there either, see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post596570 and the following discussion on that page.

You know, 'em "Merchants of fear/chaos", right?

In your "spare time" you might also want to have a look at this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post529642

... then this one: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post532714 for a very unexpected corroboration of a nuclear event at around the time of the dinosaurs.

[jiminii]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
there are two viewpoints ,,, one is that because we are crossing the equatorial plane the planets will automatically have a pole shift ,, comes from someone who says he from andromeda and his name is captain bill
but so much of his data he has been saying since 2010 sounds very authentic but because I don't see anything that shows anything about the spirit itself i think maybe some of his data is true ,., but if some of it is true what? ... i have the idea that he could be giving enough truth to get your attention but also putting in the disinformation to create some effect .., but I still don't trust it .. I just look and wait ...see if any of it comes true...
[...]

jim

Thanks for answering, jim.

Now, you need to proceed with "False Data Stripping" and once done... here is for (at least) truer data "study": https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...yths-Realities

On that same line of disinfo about pole shifts, Nibiru, sinking lands, etc... there is that CIA outfit called "Zeta talk" channeled through a Nancy Lieder. not much data reliability there either.

You know 'em "Merchants of fear/chaos", right?

As for the "equatorial plane" stint, not much water being held in there either, see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post596570 and the following discussion on that page.

You know, 'em "Merchants of fear/chaos", right?

In your "spare time" you might also want to have a look at this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post529642

... then this one: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post532714 for a very unexpected corroboration of a nuclear event at around the time of the dinosaurs.

here is a youtube video
2 suns in bangkok
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2wW-JEMbtvA
very real to me

...

I already know that site is BS
but I go there to see what earth changes are happening ..
maybe there is a better sight

jim

[Hervé]

Posted by jiminii (here)
[...]

here is a youtube video
2 suns in bangkok
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2wW-JEMbtvA
very real to me

jim

[...]

jim

Real to me too that it's a double reflection... original sun reflected on the inside window pane, opposite the side of the setting sun, of the bus back onto the window on the side of the sun... check the angle of reflection... basic optics solution with mirrors.

Proceed with that "study" I offered and maybe you'll have a clearer idea about thee "Nibiru" psyop?

[jiminii]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by jiminii (here)
there are two viewpoints ,,, one is that because we are crossing the equatorial plane the planets will automatically have a pole shift ,, comes from someone who says he from andromeda and his name is captain bill
but so much of his data he has been saying since 2010 sounds very authentic but because I don't see anything that shows anything about the spirit itself i think maybe some of his data is true ,., but if some of it is true what? ... i have the idea that he could be giving enough truth to get your attention but also putting in the disinformation to create some effect .., but I still don't trust it .. I just look and wait ...see if any of it comes true...
[...]

jim

Thanks for answering, jim.

Now, you need to proceed with "False Data Stripping" and once done... here is for (at least) truer data "study": https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...yths-Realities

On that same line of disinfo about pole shifts, Nibiru, sinking lands, etc... there is that CIA outfit called "Zeta talk" channeled through a Nancy Lieder. not much data reliability there either.

You know 'em "Merchants of fear/chaos", right?

As for the "equatorial plane" stint, not much water being held in there either, see: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post596570 and the following discussion on that page.

You know, 'em "Merchants of fear/chaos", right?

In your "spare time" you might also want to have a look at this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post529642

... then this one: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post532714 for a very unexpected corroboration of a nuclear event at around the time of the dinosaurs.

i already knew this r6 and similar treads ,,, didn't know about the beatles but a lot of artist have been controlled by the illuminuti ... first time I heard this about ghandi ...
the thing is this .. they are losing ... no matter how much negative stuff they put out

this is what I was saying ... if a large percentage of the population are only minions ,,, this must be an awful big button ,,, I worked aerospace various places like northrop and JPL NASA ,. and others and I looked at the possibility that some of these are minions . I mean great personality but ,,, I have to walk them through again and again and again how to test stuff and weeks later i have to do it again .. so I can see the similarities ... get over in asia and watch how people are so set in doing it their way they can not duplicate what I want done ,,, I keep getting the meals the way they know how to do it .,. I use my hands to point out what I want them to make and still no duplication ,.. they will create it from how they have learned through repetition ...

so I can accept what LRH said because he is so accurate about other things .... what he means by large I don't know ... but possibly more than 60 percent ... what is a large percentage ... so how do you handle a populace of minions as fillers ???? they just fill in the game .. and all being more or less brain washed by the media and environment .. when this came out about the millions of star children being created and sent here this would at least balance the game a bit ... so they are using media and physical punishment and torture and theft to lower the vibration or tone of the planet ,.. and we have some kind of vehicle here ,.. and my thoughts on this is that these viewpoints are probably also getting messages from metteyya and gaia and I don' t know all the OT's involved .. but similar to me .. and this gives us a chance to fight spiritually against this incredible evil ... you see if you see how they get there leaders, these leaders must do something extremely evil like kill Kennedy to be allowed to be the next president ... they are forever blackmailed to do their bidding. because they have the ability to put out this much evil .. we don't have the ability to confront that much evil ...

but we do the same .,, I could have decided to run the hurricane across the safe place of georgia and back out to sea instead of running it up the coast ... I only found that by trying to stop them with weather creating all those highest evers snow in the saharas and rockies ... putting 2 feet of snow in washington DC ,,, NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE and they couldn't even get food into DC ,.. so I realized that it only hurts the people in the middle ... and they would find a way to retaliate and make money with it.

LRH says admiration is a quality that alone could as-is things .. as-is is to view it's original creation and make something disappear. So maybe if I can not get everyone's power up we have to collectively find something we can admire about our enemies ... admire all their destructive natures .. admire all the things they did ... and by doing this we can make it vanish and go away ... it might be possible to change their minds.
and maybe after they wake up to all this admirtion ,,, we can finally see them break down and cry.,

jim

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Nothingness (here)
Thank you for pointing this out Padme

Posted by Wantsthetruth74 (here)
Not sure you meant to direct this to Padme, this is a quote from "wantsthetruth" (me).

Posted by Padmé
That's not a quote from one of my posts...

I fixed all the confused quoting and misappropriation of quotes that you each refer to.

Such fixing is something I do frequently and easily, as the forum's QUOTE support is confusing.