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    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    Quote All the power is inside us, all that comes from outside is something from the outside that we let in and then it starts manipulating us for its own agenda.
    What if the "agenda" is to help others empower themself? That's what mine is...(my main one, anyway )
    Sure, it can well be. I don't' see a real help as being a manipulation. Now.. what a real help is... that is to be discussed.

    In my previous post I was talking about our individual game, our taurus field. Since once you enter the game of another, you are subject to the rules of that game.
    Without knowing it we become a victim, or at least it seams that way to us because we don't even know (or we don't remember because it goes that far away, maybe many life times) what we've done to let others to control our game.

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    Quote Posted by sms (here)
    This is my answer to lookbeyond’s question from another thread:

    Quote (…)i wonder why you say you feel the only genuine spiritual messengers are of our spirit or soul, do you not believe that some guardians/angels want to help? My intuition told me that the black healing hands over my daughters head were there to help her, this experience catapulted me into a deep search for "truth", years of researching, an open mind to what may come...lb
    Your perception is the only one you should rely on, however, you have to be aware that most of us have, more or less, a distorted perception and we have to ‘calibrate’ it to the best of our abilities, taking intuition seriously, as well (intuition comes from the soul component.) Some of things which may distort our perception is wishful thinking, our tendency to lie to ourselves etc.

    So, we should not hurry to jump to conclusions before considering all possibilities, and not just those we prefer. Sometimes is better to leave issues open, than to make definite conclusions.

    In your case, I feel that there was more to the story then you have related here, however, whatever happened, if the end result was that your daughter was healed, this is beautiful. If you perceived an entity’s hands involved, it does not mean that the entity healed your daughter. Her being may have used its own resources. If the entity’s help happened to be the case, you will see if there were any strings attached.

    In my case, ~ a year ago, my kid got severely sick. He is now a bit over 5 y.o. Fever, coughing, difficulty in breathing etc. While I was at work, my wife took him to doctor and came back crying with a bag full of various nebulisers and pills. Before she went there, I just told her to make sure to get a prescription for a penicillin based antibiotic. So, the kid was diagnosed with an acute asthma. Doctor even hesitated to prescribe antibiotics.
    ...
    Thankyou for your opinion sms, personally the more i try to investigate this vision the deeper and more dirty the rabbit hole gets, so i have weighed up the arguements and decided to trust my intuition, so its all good, and you are right there is more to this, and that reinforces my intuition, lookbeyond
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    Thankyou for your opinion sms, personally the more i try to investigate this vision the deeper and more dirty the rabbit hole gets, so i have weighed up the arguements and decided to trust my intuition, so its all good, and you are right there is more to this, and that reinforces my intuition, lookbeyond
    Hi, lookbeyond, I discovered this thread on April 26, 2012. Because of uncanny, specific parallels between Houman's thread title and the OP, I was able to break free from a massive depression instantly.

    As you know, I have taken the path to bare my soul, my views, my experiences with no fear of ridicule and little fear any sort that "they" might come after me. And then even stranger things began and worse, folks who I never imagined would cause me harm did so. And the very worst, one of my own sons literally became fully possessed on July 11, 2012 and committed several dangerous acts that has him in jail still to this day awaiting his fate.

    During the last 12 months I tried every view, came up with all sorts of solution approaches, got angry at this thread and left, came back again and again... and finally, after doing all I could to change the color of the pill I swallowed from red (to know the truth) to blue (to find safety somewhere in the happy dream), I began again to reread sms's posts (I have them back to back - 152 pages as they currently stand), Eve Lorgen's material and material from Dr. Malanga at this site and for what its worth, from someone who has clearly been quite archonically compromised, this is the truest truth I ever came across.

    And note: This is not a truth any of us would want to be true. I ran every possible alternate scenario through my mind. I tried every possible "happy ending" religion. I have tried every scenario other than this one and always, as if I have been a river whose only final destination is the waiting ocean, I find this Malanga/Lorgen information to be the truth.

    Great... so now what? What does one do when one realizes they have been one of these lovely "chosen ones" yet with only a few tiny glimpses of memories to connect those dots as opposed to so many abductees who have massive, multiple memories with the aliens?

    But there are others ways to figure this all out. And trust me... I am an absolute nobody. There's no reason this "attention" should come my way unless my fears are true. That I am just temporary housing for a renegade soul. It makes sense my mind has been so massively compromised. It makes sense all the absolute insane things I have done (such that my friends and associates actually call me "Crazy Chester").

    My only question for myself is... can I maintain this tiny thread of connectivity I still have with my soul? Or have the aliens taken me so far that I am some deluded "hybrid" who can never tell when he is thinking for himself or it is an alien that is actually sailing this ship.

    So the point of this thread is, accepting the truth seems to only be the beginning. The only help I can be for anyone right now is simply to share my experience and to let them know that anything I say or write could be (and likely is) quite heavily influenced by the alien in me. No one wants these things to be true. I found myself yesterday wishing I had taken the blue pill. Then, that which I believe is my truest inner self (my soul?) thought of the Bruce Lee movie sms mentioned and I know I still have my soul, because I have and always will return to the first floor and the door that leads back to the streets of this world.
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    Thanks Chester.I believe if experiences are shared, more pieces to the puzzle become available

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    Coscienza – consciousness
    Secondo creatore – 2nd creator
    Primo creatore – 1st creator
    Anima secondo creatore – Soul of the 2nd creator
    Uomo con anima – Man with a soul
    Alieno incorporeo – Bodiless alien
    Alieno corporeo – Alien with body
    Uomo senza anima – Man without soul
    Golem (at the bottom)
    I know a bit of the Kabbalah and I find it fascinating as to how Dr. Malanga has been able to correlate his Genesis mythos with the Sephirot although I see no correlation for Geburah.

    What I found most interesting is his correlation of the soul of the 2nd creator with Daath which is the Sephirot that leads to the Qliphoth... the realm of the demons.

    Quote Since the demons aren’t summoned anymore, they are coming by themselves.
    from here

    I watched carefully the Never Ending Story and just now recall the reference to the shells. I found many other parallels to the mystical Kabbalah of the Hebrew tradition. I also saw the primary metaphor pointed out by sms. I would never have imagined until recently that I, a 55 year old, would find myself brought to tears several times watching a movie for children. Thanks for the tip, sms.
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    Yes, they could not find out what Geburah would correspond to, so they left the question mark there. In fact, Dr Malanga and his associates were “mapping the territory” by projecting the souls across the Creation and after they finished it, they noted that their map was looking the same as the Tree of Life from Jewish Kabbalah.

    According to Dr Malanga’s interpretation, the left side represents a 2D creation of the 2nd Creator who “lost” the soul component due to inability to have a body and DNA in a 2D Universe. So, the souls from this side moved to our side (inhabiting the human beings). They are represented by “invisible” sephirot Daath, which means “only those who have Consciousness may be aware of the existence of such souls”. (In Nag Hammadi Library, the soul coming from 2nd Creator has been referred as Orea) This is the universe of incorporeal aliens such as Horus-Ra, Growl, Six-fingered Blondes (Nordics?!)…; they seem to use various artificial bodies or projections when interacting with humanity.

    Golem at the bottom would be represented by the copies which have been used as supersoldiers (“suicide bombers”, terrorists…?!?) and the greys (artificial beings), which consist of the body and the mind (no the Spirit and the Soul components)

    On the right side we would have corporeal aliens, except the Lux, which as Lucifer was stripped from the body after he rebelled against PM.

    (In the meanwhile, in Genesis III, Dr Malanga has included the angels, as well, and he described them as - the “eye on the top of the pyramid”, and so, he placed them above the alien hierarchies; though, they would still belong to the “archontic forces” in relation to the souled part of the humanity.)

    This sort of the Tree of Life could be viewed from different perspectives:



    So, there is a correlation with Merkabah (“thing to ride in”; “cart”; “vehicle to ascend”), as well:



    Anima = the Soul
    Spirito = the Spirit
    Mente = the Mind

    The same with the “Four worlds” from Kabbalah:



    Atzilut = "Emanation "
    Beriah = "Creation"
    Yetzirah = "Formation"
    Asiyah = "Action"

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    from http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/psychol...tal-hospitals/
    quite interesting interview of Dr. “J”

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    Dr. “J”. a seasoned Clinical Psychologist was interviewed by Robert Stanley on 3/28/2013. He believes that demonic possession may be the real issue going on with most schizophrenics.

    http://www.unicusmagazine.com/MP3/01...03_28_2013.mp3

    On a similar note, Robert Stanley also interviewed Cameron Day on 2/25/20130 about “The Dark Deception of Mankind”.

    http://www.unicusmagazine.com/MP3/ro...02_25_2013.mp3

    Finally, professionals in the mental health field are admitting to what many people have known in indigenous cultures for centuries: The reality of demonic possession and interference.

    I also want to point out the excellent book by Malachi Martin entitled, “Hostage to the Devil” (Harper San Francisco, 1992), which recounts several cases of demonic possession and exorcism in riveting detail. M. Scott Peck MD was also a Psychiatrist who worked with the demonically possessed and exorcisms under Malachi Martin’s elusive mentorship. Scott Peck’s last book entitled, ”Glimpses of the Devil: A Psychiatrist’s Personal Accounts of Possession, Exorcism and Redemption“. (Free Press, 2005) is an excellent overview of how demonic possession is unique and can be distinguished from other mental disorders if one knows how to identify it.

    Robert Stanley wrote a press release about “Exposing the Covert Controllers of Mankind“. He describes the covert controllers as Archons of the Nag Hammadi Gnostic literature and presents their similarities with Toltec shamanic descriptions of the “predators” and flying fish. These dark shadow like predatory beings are inside our minds as mind parasites, and in order to defeat them one must practice stilling the mind, among other things.

    http://www.unicusmagazine.com/skyfish.htm

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    Thanks for the posts sms. I wonder if the primordial man of Dr Malanga is the Ohrmazd found in avestan texts (Ohrmazd, in fact, appears to have also been called primordial man)
    http://rbedrosian.com/Ref/Mani/mani2.htm

    these texts have percolated into most religions by now (the text below http://www.skeptictank.org/files/mys4/mysrel05.htm is interesting to compare to the apocalypse of John)

    Quote What began in water would end in fire, according to Mithraic
    beliefs. The great battle between the forces of light and darkness
    in the Last Days would destroy the earth with its upheavals and
    burnings. Virtuous ones who followed the teachings of the Mithraic
    priesthood would join the spirits of light and be saved. Sinful ones
    who followed other teachings would be cast into hell with Ahriman and
    the fallen angels.
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    This is a freaky thread, in a fun way, gotta go back to the begining.

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    Quote Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
    This is a freaky thread, in a fun way, gotta go back to the begining.
    The beginning is not so fun, I assure you, MargueriteBee, but essential and most recommended.

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    Thanks for the posts sms. I wonder if the primordial man of Dr Malanga is the Ohrmazd found in avestan texts (Ohrmazd, in fact, appears to have also been called primordial man)
    http://rbedrosian.com/Ref/Mani/mani2.htm

    these texts have percolated into most religions by now (the text below http://www.skeptictank.org/files/mys4/mysrel05.htm is interesting to compare to the apocalypse of John)

    Quote What began in water would end in fire, according to Mithraic
    beliefs. The great battle between the forces of light and darkness
    in the Last Days would destroy the earth with its upheavals and
    burnings. Virtuous ones who followed the teachings of the Mithraic
    priesthood would join the spirits of light and be saved. Sinful ones
    who followed other teachings would be cast into hell with Ahriman and
    the fallen angels.
    Yes, it seems that the same myth has been reflected in many cultures, however, different names and terminology have been used!? PM (Adam Kadmon) would be the first manifestation of the 1st Creator (who corresponds to Vishnu in Hindu culture) and PM’s place would correspond to the sephirot Chesed (Mercy) on the Tree of Life.

    On the left (“demonic”) side of the tree, we have Shiva as the 2nd Creator, however, there would be no possibility to have a corresponding “embodiment” on sephirot Geburah, as the souls who came through the 2nd Creator have vacated the area as physical bodies were not available for them. They could not express themselves in a 2D environment, without physical bodies which they would inhabit.

    However, Horus-Ra (depicted with the 3rd eye) would be a manifestation of Shiva (depicted with the 3rd eye).




    **

    In Genesis II (I am using the Serbian translation), titled as The Gods from Hindu Valley, tracing the “pantheon of the gods” (extraterrestrials), Dr Malanga goes further back to pre-Israel cultures such as Egyptian, Babylonian and Hindu. He said that, in fact, the Jews stole the gods pantheon from Egyptians, where JHVH seemed to play a role of the God of the first generation, “never born” or Amun (Amon), while Jesus took the role of Ra, the Sun-god.

    However, Egyptians borrowed the concept of the gods from Babylonian culture… which goes back to Hindu… etc. So, going back in time to the origins of the myth, where Jesus was replaced by Christ, i.e. Krishna, it seems that the extraterrestrial bestiary was described more than 12000 years ago.

    Dr Malanga says that everything is recorded in the myth which is contained in the human being; as everything happens in the now, so a myth represents an eternal reality with its gods and their legends which were, that are and which will be. What has been changing, it is the interpretation of the myths, that our Minds are trying to provide to us.

    It seems that PM was manifested as Oannes, the Man-Fish, as well!? (Origin of the "Christian" Fish Symbol)

    He seems to be reflected in John the Baptist figure, too.





    Mayas called this being ''Uaana'', the „one which resides in the water“, Philistines called it Dagon, and described it with the tail of a fish and a human body, then Dogon tribe from Mali worshiped Nommo, an amphibian being, who was regarded as the founder of their culture. He returned to heavens inside a luminous egg; on Rhodes it were deities Telchines... etc.

    Vishnu, has appeared to Satjavarti (later Manu) in the form of a fish at the end of Manvatara and he said to him that he was going to destroy the world. He gives him a direction to build an ark which would be used as a refuge for those who will be the origin of the future life. During the cataclism, Vishnu in his manifestation as a fish (PM) is navigating the ark.

    It seems that the periodic world destructions come in circles or better to say at the time when humanity figures out what was going on and when aliens get close in their attempts to acquire human souls!? According to Dr Malanga, PM destroys the world in order to preserve his position.

    In the legend of the great deluge, the Primordial Man rescues (part of) the humanity from a disaster he himself has caused; he is a being who acts on the water world, he inhabits it and manipulates it. So, the fish (PM) is rescuing Manu (at the end of other ages it were Utnapishtim and Noah) from the deluge by transporing him in an ark. In fact, in this way PM preserves the human genome (soul containers) for the next circe.

    It seems that everything is about preventing people to understand that they have a soul, to prevent the man to understand that he is the soul. So, the “spiritual conspiracy“ is all abot that. Making those 3-component beings to think and behave like 2-component beings.

    Those who contemplate this dynamics may ask themselves the following question – how PM who „has souls“ can manipulate the humanity (beside the aliens who do not have it) if the souls are humane by its nature?...

    In Genesis II, Dr Malanga said:

    Quote From one side, there is PM who wants the soul for any price because he regards her as its slave, and from the other side, the soul does not want to be anybody's slave. Beside that, there is one thing which becomes more and more clear. The soul, under hypnosis and even in a mental simulation, says that PM is one container inside which, in fact, there is no soul. The soul actually resides in human bodies, but [inside the PM] there is something like a mirror reflection [of the soul] which somehow enables PM to live during the period when the soul inhabits human containers.
    Dr Malanga on - two souls:

    Quote Two Souls in Pistis Sophia

    As we know, there are two sources of the soul: first one comes from the 1st Creator and the 2nd, from the 2nd Creator, the one who creates bodiless things and using bodies created through the 1st Creator. When reading carefully Pistis Sophia, it seems that the problem is pretty well described in this gnostic material. Pistis, consciousness, gnosis, produces Eve, the soul part of the universe, who gives birth to two daughters: one is Norea (Orea) and the other is Zoe. When Norea asks the angel Eleleth to teach her about the true nature of archons, she learns how evil they are, however, she learns about the existence of 2nd Eve's daughter Zoe, as well (...)
    **

    At the end, it comes out that we have here a nice mixture of people having the soul originating from the 1st Creator, (with a certain number of those souls being controlled by PM), people with the souls originating from the 2nd Creator and people without a soul (in Eastern Gnosis called „anthropoids“ or „Sons of God“).

    Dr Malanga says that in each circle we, as the humanity, become more and more aware, so that there were some chances to prevent the destruction of the humanity by archontic forces this time, at the end of this circle!? Probably, a certain threshold of awareness would be required for that!? So far, it has been noted that people with integrated components can influence and perhaps modify the holographic reality. So, it could be done to our own advantage. As 3-component beings, once we become aware, we will overcome the archontic control. At the end, we are superior to the archontic forces which are based on only 2 components.

    ...

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    Just to add this parable “On being an Eagle”, which depicts nicely the situation in which souled humans currently are:

    Quote A man found an eagle's egg and put it in a nest of a barnyard hen. The eaglet hatched with the brood of chicks and grew up with them. All his life the eagle did what the barnyard chicks did, thinking he was a barnyard chicken. He scratched the earth for worms and insects. He clucked and cackled. And he would thrash his wings and fly a few feet into the air.

    Years passed and the eagle grew very old. One day he saw a magnificent bird above him in the cloudless sky. It glided in graceful majesty among the powerful wind currents, with scarcely a beat on his strong golden wings. The old eagle looked up in awe. "Who's that?" he asked. "That's the eagle, the king of the birds," said his neighbour. "He belongs to the sky. We belong to the earth - we're chickens." So the eagle lived and died a chicken, for that's what he thought he was.

    Anthony de Mello (1931 - 1987) Jesuit Priest
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    Yes, they could not find out what Geburah would correspond to, so they left the question mark there.

    ... and

    The same with the “Four worlds” from Kabbalah:



    Atzilut = "Emanation "
    Beriah = "Creation"
    Yetzirah = "Formation"
    Asiyah = "Action"

    **
    Hi sms - several questions if you don't mind.

    I kept looking at the image above with a sense that something was different than the standard Tree of Life and then I noticed two Sephirot in Asiyah where I thought there was only to be be Malkuth so I am intrigued...

    Is one Malkuth and the other left unidentified?

    Or, are they together representative of the duality found within materiality and that the two are Malkuth?

    Another thought I had was that one of these is representative of Daath yet because of Daath's "awakening/acquisition of knowledge" became like a "being of form" which implies it must change over time and one of those changes is its own demise - thus lacks the actual soul component. Yet it seems it must have some type of "bridge" to still be in the picture - something that functions as a connector to the Qliphoth - sort of a "heart" of the Qliphoth.... I see that as Daath and yet, would not Daath have to be connected to the Tree of Life in some way in order to interact with those of the Tree of Life?

    OK and another intriguing statement you made -

    Quote On the right side we would have corporeal aliens, except the Lux, which as Lucifer was stripped from the body after he rebelled against PM.
    Considering that PM "is a shady guy," this suggests Lucifer may actually represent something far different that the reputation given to him as "Satan." I have never equated the two metaphors. Please, if you don't mind, share your thoughts regarding these two "beings."

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    It seems that the periodic world destructions come in circles or better to say at the time when humanity figures out what was going on and when aliens get close in their attempts to acquire human souls!? According to Dr Malanga, PM destroys the world in order to preserve his position.
    ...
    Clearly then... it would seem wise for humanity to refrain from "figuring it all out" or that somehow if/when we do, we also hold cards we never held before...

    what a game! deadly serious one at that... wow

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    Quote justoneman: I kept looking at the image above with a sense that something was different than the standard Tree of Life and then I noticed two Sephirot in Asiyah where I thought there was only to be be Malkuth so I am intrigued.

    Is one Malkuth and the other left unidentified? Or, are they together representative of the duality found within materiality and that the two are Malkuth?

    Another thought I had was that one of these is representative of Daath yet because of Daath's "awakening/acquisition of knowledge" became like a "being of form" which implies it must change over time and one of those changes is its own demise - thus lacks the actual soul component. Yet it seems it must have some type of "bridge" to still be in the picture - something that functions as a connector to the Qliphoth - sort of a "heart" of the Qliphoth.... I see that as Daath and yet, would not Daath have to be connected to the Tree of Life in some way in order to interact with those of the Tree of Life?
    In response to this question, I have translated a bit more material from
    the 2nd part of Genesis I (Serbian translation), where Dr Malanga clarified this version of the Tree of Life:

    Quote Four Worlds

    At the beginning of 14th century, there were four worlds distinguished in the creation: 'Atzilúth (the World of emanation), Beri'à (the World of creation), Yetzirà (the World of formation) and 'Asiyá (the World of action). These names imply variations in kinds of influences of sephirots. The world Atzilut which is closest to God is ruled by immaterial forces. The material component increases slowly with increasing distance from the Emanator.

    In essence, the Emanator is nothing else than what we called in our former articles the Illuminator.

    So, we will try to depict how is the vision of the event description we have obtained from our talks with the souls using hypnosis and mental simulations, in fact, a description of the Universe which was previously described in Jewish culture.
    Here, in Genesis I, follows a comparative table, where at the bottom we have two sephirots relevant to “justoneman’s” question:


    9. Yesod; Meaning: Astral plain; Correspondence to the body: Genitals; Astrology: Moon; Jung’s archetype: Mind/water

    10. Malchut; Meaning: Physical virtual reality; Correspondence to the body: feet, anus; Astrology: the Earth; Jung’s archetype: body/earth

    …and Dr Malanga continues with his explanation:

    Quote By only looking at this comparative table we can see, how, ideologically, the characters represented by the symbols, reflect very well the characters of our small universal theatre.

    So, the Consciousness becomes the Crown, two creators represent female and male character, or the intrinsic duality.

    PM becomes the King who sits on the throne, while on the opposite side we have Geburah, the Dark Warrior who represents the first creation of the 2nd Creator, a being without a body, who will create bodiless aliens or “HODs” (8th sephirot).

    In this context, Daath represents invisible Sephirot(…) It is about the souled part of the 2nd Creator, C2. You can see it and be aware of it, only if you know that it exists. In this part of the created universe, it should not exist, as it was supposed to be on the other side with the 2nd Creator.

    Hod and Netsah are corporeal and incorporeal aliens.

    Tiphereth is a real representation of the man with the soul, where Yesod depicts the man with the spirit but without the soul and Malkut is an empty shell, mythical Golem who is not aware of its existence, the [human] copy which aliens make from an abductee.

    (…)

    As we can see from our reconstruction [the image of the Tree of life posted above], it corresponds to Jewish Kabbalah, however, there are a few important differences. According to Jewish tradition, in these images which depict the Tree of Life, which we call more accurately – the Tree of Existence, it could be seen that numerous variation on the original theme exist. Before all, some images depict Daath, while the others exclude it in their final versions.

    The exclusion of Daath was justified in unclear and non-understandable discussions between many experts from rabbinical world. The fact which was taken in account is that the interpretation of Kabbalah is not clear even to those who have proposed it, on the ground of original scripts which were very hermetical.

    However, we know what it means “hidden” because our interpretation does not lead into a doubt. The soul of the 2nd Creator was not supposed to be here, but on the other side, so nobody could know about its existence. Except, in case that one has Consciousness.

    The 2nd aspect which makes the confusion is related to the number of connections [channels] between different sephirots. It often seems that these channels pass behind other channels, sometimes in front of others, and in some cases they all seem to be on the same level, which seems to be because of that the structure of Sephirots is 3-dimensional, as we constructed it. But, not just that. According to the tradition, there should be 22 channels. This was specifically expressed in Torah. As there are 22 original archetypes, there are 22 Tarot cards which god Thoth gave to the humanity and which are the key for reading of one lost Thoth’s book which allegedly was existed and which has represented an Egyptian depiction of Lurian Kabbalah.

    In Sepher Yetzirah, there are, as well, 22 Autiuth matrices [archetypes?] described, which were used by the “Printer” (God) while he created the Universe.

    So, these molds, or better to say, these 22 basic operations by which help the universe was created, represent, as well, all possible interactions between the components of Kabbalah. According to that, some interactions would not be possible, while the others would be real. The Consciousness [the Awareness?] about the existence of Daath, makes it possible for us to understand what kabbalists have not understand till these times; i.e. that there is an interaction between Daath and the 2nd Creator and there is an interaction between Daath and the human being with a soul, (Tiphereth), who is the only container capable to hold it in itself.(…)

    Our reconstruction of the Tree of Existence is the only one capable of explaining completely all these interactions, which we proposed after years of investigation of the alien scenario.(…)
    Then, he said that Golem was created by corporeal aliens (in fact, by modification of genetics and transformation of Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon men); aliens later created humans with spirits and after that humans with souls and spirits.

    Quote Golem represents a living body with a little bit of consciousness, because he was devoid of the soul and the spirit. It was made as a vegetative being at the beginning of creation(…).

    Because of that, in our 3D vision, it was not placed on the central pole [axis], the one which contain living beings which have consciousness because they posses a soul or a spirit. So, it [Golem] could not be placed on the central axis, and it was moved forward.

    In the front view of Kabbalistic reconstruction of the Tree of Existence, this is not noted, however, it becomes obvious if we analyse our Tree of Existence in a 3D [perspective].
    So, when we look from 3D perspective, the World of Action is represented by 2 sephirots, Jesod (Astral plain) and Malchuth (Earth/physical virtual reality).

    In regards to 4 worlds, Dr Malanga said:

    Quote Consciousness and two Creators make the first world, the world of emanation. The real creation is left to Adam Kadmon and the correspondent being who originates from the 2nd Creator. We do not know this being, and we identified it on our Tree of Life with a question mark.

    In Yetzirah exist created beings such as: aliens with bodies and without bodies and human beings without souls.

    At the end, there id the world of fabrication [action] where beside the man without soul, belongs Golem, as well.

    According to that, Kabbalah, beside that it depicts the position of man in relation to aliens and other creatures, it represents a timeless photograph, a picture of the reality which tells us not only what happened, but what will happen, as well.

    While the phenomenon of Creation is descending from above, which was depicted in two side axes of the sephirot tree, the man who is placed in the centre of the Creation, moves into the pole [axis] which is located in the centre of the sephirot tree. From that point of view, that what happened, could be understood from the following paradigm. The Creation has created two creators, who further created a series of more or less happy subcreations with a motive to become eternal and to imitate their god and creators. Human beings who at at the beginning was used as a mean to achieve that result, later proves to be a finished product for the future evolution of the universe and he ascends from the World of formation to the World of creation, merging in himself the souls from the 1st and the 2nd Creators, and all those vital experiences which would ultimately lead to unification with the God Creator.
    (I do not have a problem when translating from English into my language, however, it is much harder for me when it is other way around. I hope that something did not get “lost in translation”?!)

    In regards to the 2nd part of the question, I will try to answer it in my next post.


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    Quote justoneman: OK and another intriguing statement you made -

    On the right side we would have corporeal aliens, except the Lux, which as Lucifer was stripped from the body after he rebelled against PM.

    Considering that PM "is a shady guy," this suggests Lucifer may actually represent something far different that the reputation given to him as "Satan." I have never equated the two metaphors. Please, if you don't mind, share your thoughts regarding these two "beings."
    Yes, this came out from the investigation Dr Malanga and his associates have conducted during many years. I have tried to check it as much as possible and the therapists whom I know have confirmed its presence in the abductees. Quite an elusive entity and very hard to catch and get rid of.

    However, when checking out this information, there are some difficulties which have been regularly encountered in practice. Firstly, the SIMBAD sessions, which were just a developmental stage, have been usually conducted as fast as possible, as the focus is usually directed to decontamination of all parasites and implants ASAP. In practice, there is not much time for “interviewing” various entities to find out all the details. There is a strong interference not only during such sessions, but even before them. This forces interfere with the abductee and with therapists in order to stop them or to distract them, and all sorts of “paranormal events” have been happening.

    [E.g. Recently, I have heard of a peculiar case when an abductee, after he made an appointment for SIMBAD session, was targeted with a collision twice. In both cases the same car was involved on the collision course, approaching him from the opposite direction. The first time he avoided it narrowly by swerving to the side of the road, and the second time, the car approaching hit a curb at the side of the road and started rolling over towards the approaching car of the abductee. He missed it again by a few cm. What was peculiar, both times there was no driver in the approaching car!? The second time the abductee has stopped and went straight away to the rolled over car which was badly damaged, and there was nobody there. The local paper reported the accident, as well. It was not disclosed to whom the car belonged and they said that the driver of that car and the passengers were probably picked up by the driver of the car which was behind, “who drove them into unknown direction”. One can write a book just about those “hyperdimensional attacks”, the people have been subjected to, when they are on the right course in their lives and investigating really important issues.]

    So, regarding Lux, here are some excerpts from Dr Malanga’s materials which may clarify this concept:

    Quote Then there's 3 entities which don't have a body: the Lux, we call him Lux, while the ancient people used to call him Lucifer, light bringing, the one who brings light some kind of Satan for the Ancient people; it's a demon, who wants the Soul, just like the ancient demons. He's a being without a body. Since he doesn't have one, in order to plan his work, he needs to get one. And why? Because the Soul component, for how it is structured, can attach only to a bodily DNA: to a body.

    So if he doesn't have a body,he needs a body, cause then he's going to attach the DNA inside, meaning he's going to attach to it the Soul component.
    That is, he cannot get the Soul component, cause she one attaches only to a real DNA, a solid one.

    So, the Lux has always been using us, the human beings, but he uses also other entities; but it is clear how the Lux gets into, penetrates...

    ...there's 2 ways he does that: usually the abductees remember about this weird little cute kid, all shining, with darker eyes, and also his fingernails, if that's what they really are, they're a little bit darker, but it is actually not a body, it's a little moving flame, Which gets closer, and closer, and closer... at night time... and then... (makes a sound like a thud) a stroke to the solar plexus... ...and it gets in.

    And you feel like you need to throw up, just cause the parasympathetic nervous system must have being exposed to a special solicitation so that the pit of the stomach makes you feel like that... and you feel within you that there's something which is not working out; some kind of load, a weight something disgusting!

    And, this one gets in between the Spirit and the Mind component, meaning, the left hemisphere, the corpus striatum. We could somehow say that he makes you believe that the thoughts that your Spirit sends you are all yours! And instead he filters them, he modifies them, and he makes you believe two basic things, which are some of his basic qualities, and that is: he's the creator of religion, and the creator of the guilt instinct, and he's still the one who created that.

    And he makes you feel like ****!... ...and just because of trivialities!... ...for as long as you live... he keeps you “in check” in this way. And he talks from within you, with this little voice. He talks from within and he tells you things. As an example: “You see! You lost a button! I told you that you were supposed to admit that I was right! I told you that you were supposed to strengthen the button! Every time you don't admit that I am right, and that you don't do what I want, then you will feel uncomfortable!” Or, “You see! Today you didn't lose any button! You did a good job in resewing it, as I told you to do yesterday! All the times that you do what I say, you will get on in life! You cannot do anything without me!”

    Even for just a button, if you don't pay attention to it, you feel like ****! In any case, without him, cause he creates a needing rapport. This one doesn't have a body. What actually happens is that he gets the Soul's energy, and brings it to his place, where there's a very huge Lux, a single big Lux... ...just a like bucket that gets water (the energy) from a well, and it throws it in there. Gets is from the well, and throws it in there. It's just one creature, which parts itself in many different creatures, and sub-creatures.

    (…)

    …but we have noticed this: when we try, when we used to try to throw out the Lux during an hypnosis, and this also happens at times during the SIMBAD, the person starts to have an headache, or suffers from palpitations, or his legs hurts... in other words we found out about all the fake pains, which the Lux creates, through acting on the cerebral cortex.

    But they are fake!

    Their only purpose is to sidetrack the person, because if he was to continue, with all the systems that we know, he would actually eliminate the Lux. But, once the trick is revealed...it's over; it is clear that these are chemicals which act on the chemical receptors.

    (…)

    “But the Lux, we can say, chemically pilots the person to go in a certain direction, it can create fever... And it brings the person to do or not do a certain thing.” yes, yes... yes, yes... it is possible no, no, this is possible and this is actually a pretty simple issue: there's something called psychosomatics: the psyche and the body are connected.

    So anything that acts on the psyche, then the body clearly shows the consequences of it.
    Alas, yes! But, you just need to realize that the 1st thing that your willpower needs to do is to distinguish your own true voice, from the Lux's little voice, which is within you.
    Once you are aware and you know this, that guy just talks, and you just let him talk, because in the end you do what YOU want to do!

    “Yes, but what if you don't hear the little voice? And one think he's just listening to his own voice, then you are shafted” You swindled it! Because the Soul component must make herself heard! She must come out. That's always the same story: you can never free somebody who doesn't want to be freed! You can never free somebody who is not conscious enough so he is able to do it.

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    Quote Lux is a type of light being that will often appear as a spirit guide, but in reality is deceptive and feeds off the human energy field.(…)

    The LUX being is unique in that it is from our 3D universe, but somehow lost its “body form” that enabled it to retain a Soul aspect. Malanga now affirms that the LUX being is an emanation of the Lucifer who rebelled against his creator, the white, bright Primordial Man (The good Father Figure, Adam Kadmon, the wise old man figure), and so itʼs like an orphan and is envious of the human condition, always seeking human bodies with Souls (and also without souls) to possess, in order to live, to manipulate, to weave his intrigues, to feel important…, etc.(…)

    LUX is not that high (Maybe not anymore) It invented churches and religions in order to control people and feed on their energy, keep them dummied down.

    **

    Q: Where is the LUX beings position in this Kaballah?

    A: In my opinion it should be between the PM and the corporeal aliens.

    **

    LUX entities can and do parasite and host soulless people, or soul disconnected people, in such a way that they manipulate mass public opinion, thoughts beliefs and religions. The popular opinion (about aliens, spirituality, etc.) is rarely the truth since the largest majority of people are not soul connected. Not everyone who possessed is interfered with by LUX. It can come and go.

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    In regards to “Satan” and a possible relation between him and Lux, I would not have a clue. I never tried to define Satan and Lucifer. What I was aware of is that we, as the humanity, have been manipulated throughout the history by some alien hierarchies, and I was focused more on the manipulation techniques, the dynamics and the background, than on names of those who might be on the top.

    I think, Michael Topper came pretty close in understanding the dynamics of manipulation, although he was looking through the Service to Self (STS) and Service to Others (STO) polarities.

    Quote M. Topper: The higher density negative entities are "light eaters." Love is light is knowledge. When they induce belief against what is objectively true, they have "eaten" the light-knowledge of the person who has chosen blind belief over fact! When you believe a lie, you have allowed the eating of your energy of awareness! When you do not take the time and trouble to check things out for yourself, to do the research, to compare, to network, to get a consensus, you have given away your power. You have failed in the creative act of learning. Such beings are associated with darkness because the light-knowledge is drawn into the cavernous "black hole" of their congenital emptiness. […]

    All the massive, cosmic project they are engaged in, in full consciousness and on the grand scale, is ultimately a means of "cornering the market" on energy, monopolizing all the known fields of light or light potential. The expanding order they attempt to impose, the totalitarian control over increasingly large numbers they attempt to exert, is the fantastical and internally self-contradictory project of coercing everything in creation to work for them, to cultivate and keep the fields of their energy-reserves and to furnish self-replenishing "herds" of emotional source-nutriment which can be converted into useful energy or light-capital. Since the negative beings can’t generate an important light-energy source themselves, they they use the reserves of the beings effectually harnessed in thrall to them. […]

    There is an immediate psychic bond produced by belief. There is an instantaneous linkage and interpenetration with the individual who has chosen to believe a lie. The higher-dimensional beings have subtle, vertical filamental axes fixed on human beings. Those subtle nerve-networks process radiant-energy values, drawn in through the etheric "chakras" of the higher-dimensional systems, represented by the pineal/pituitary glands.

    The network of the STS (Service To Self) hierarchy extends in myriad psychic webs of specialized powers, forces and functions like a voracious Net flung across the heaven of stars, the sum energy comprising the group consciousness of that net redounds to the basic benefit of the Being at the apex of the control pyramid. This apex is composed of the most persistently negative being - the one who has stuck it out against all evidence of progressively-diminishing returns. This being can be described as the Desolate One, a being who most directly embodies and promotes the ultimate negative objective.

    The consciousness of that being is literally fed and magnified by the number and relative strength of the subordinate souls who have been voluntarily subsumed to the network. The greater the development of the psychic potentials of the individual who has been co-opted, the more "energy" he contributes to the whole system. The more psychic energy available to the "Commander" of the negative soul hierarchy, the greater his effective power to co-opt even more potent and more difficult to capture souls.

    The "contributions of consciousness" consist effectively of the energy a soul would otherwise utilize to encompass objective knowledge. Each time they choose a lie over the effort required to dig down to the truth, or the effort required to adjust their own psyche to adapt to Truth, that "love" energy is effectively transferred to the individual who is producing the lie in which they are believing without effort on their part to ascertain its truth for themselves.
    (…)

    The subordinates of the negative hierarchy are all connected like tiers of an immense structure, functioning as regimented extensions and mind/body "parts" - organs and processes serving the negative agenda from their respective levels - of the Overarching Apex, the "Eye of the Pyramid." The beings at the different tiers do not perceive the object of the Ultimate Objective because it is a characteristic of the Negative hierarchy to deliberately mask and distort that which is higher and more comprehensive from that which is lower and more "specialized."
    (…)

    As far as the beings of the lower levels of the STS hierarchy are aware, their objective is to crystallize under artificial pressure of economics, a global power elite structure of indigenous and alien beings that will completely dominate the earth and its inhabitants, thus making it a captured negative resource to "feed" the hierarchy.
    (…)

    This is what the 4th density STS beings perceive. This is their goal. This is all they know: ruthlessness and domination, power and control. The REAL objective is, of course, concealed from them. The even higher density tiers of the Negative hierarchy deliberately distort and mask the character of their objectives from the lower planes of "subordinate functionaries" that are viewed by them as a regimented machinery of beings serving as expendable cogs in an Engine of Conquest.

    (…)

    Topper – Precis on Good and Evil
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    to sms - the last two posts have been massively helpful. Thanks, justone
    May I second that justoneman... this thread continues to be vital in our understanding.

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    Personally I think that Dr Malanga has nailed it better than most. He seems to have understood the system - not sure about the clearing methods though - I wish I could pass on his findings to someone like Carolyn Myss, to see what she thinks (medical intuitive with very high spirituality).

    I am coming to a resume in my head about this, may write on it when I have a minute.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Personally I think that Dr Malanga has nailed it better than most. He seems to have understood the system - not sure about the clearing methods though - I wish I could pass on his findings to someone like Carolyn Myss, to see what she thinks (medical intuitive with very high spirituality).

    I am coming to a resume in my head about this, may write on it when I have a minute.
    Please do Flash - writing about the picture that is forming is so helpful. As by way of synchronicity I just sent Dr. Malanga's work to a highly trained auditor. Many of his conclusions ring true for me as they align with my own experiential data base but I am also not sure of his clearing methods.

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