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    Do read -- or at least, get the gist! In my post #2 below I'll explain why this financial drama is important to watch very carefully, and how it may affect us all.

    The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control
    By Michael, on May 27th, 2013

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...out-of-control

    The financial system of the third largest economy on the planet is starting to come apart at the seams, and the ripple effects are going to be felt all over the globe. Nobody knew exactly when the Japanese financial system was going to begin to implode, but pretty much everyone knew that a day of reckoning for Japan was coming eventually. After all, the Japanese economy has been in a slump for over a decade, Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of well over 200 percent and they are spending about 50 percent of all tax revenue on debt service. In a desperate attempt to revitalize the economy and reduce the debt burden, the Bank of Japan decided a few months ago to start pumping massive amounts of money into the economy. At first, it seemed to be working. Economic activity perked up and the Japanese stock market went on a tremendous run. Unfortunately, there is also a very significant downside to pumping your economy full of money. Investors start demanding higher returns on their money and interest rates go up. But the Japanese government cannot afford higher interest rates. Without super low interest rates, Japanese government finances would totally collapse. In addition, higher interest rates in the private sector would make it much more difficult for the Japanese economy to expand. In essence, pretty much the last thing that Japan needs right now is significantly higher interest rates, but that is exactly what the policies of the Bank of Japan are going to produce.

    There is a lot of fear in Japan right now. On Thursday, the Nikkei plunged 7.3 percent. That was the largest single day decline in more than two years. Then on Monday the index fell by another 3.2 percent.

    And according to Business Insider, things are not looking good for Tuesday at this point...
    In post-close futures trading, the Nikkei has dropped by another couple hundred points, and has dropped below 14,000.
    Are we witnessing the beginning of a colossal financial meltdown by the third largest economy on the planet? The Bank of Japan is starting to lose control, and if Japan goes down hard the crisis could spread to Europe and North America very rapidly. The following is from a recent article by Graham Summers...
    As Japan has indicated, when bonds start to plunge, it’s not good for stocks. Today the Japanese Bond market fell and the Nikkei plunged 7%. The entire market down 7%… despite the Bank of Japan funneling $19 billion into it to hold things together.
    This is what it looks like when a Central Bank begins to lose control. And what’s happening in Japan today will be coming to the US in the not so distant future.

    If you think the Fed is not terrified of this, think again. The Fed has pumped over $1 trillion into foreign banks, hoping to stop the mess from getting to the US. As Japan is showing us, the Fed will fail.

    Investors, take note… the financial system is sending us major warnings…

    If you are not already preparing for a potential market collapse, now is the time to be doing so.
    And all of this money printing is absolutely crushing the Japanese yen. Since the start of 2013, the yen has declined 16 percent against the U.S. dollar, even though the U.S. dollar is also being rapidly debased. Just check out this chart of the yen vs. the U.S. dollar. It is absolutely stunning...




    The term "currency war" is something that you are going to hear a lot more over the next few years, and what you can see in the chart above is only the beginning.
    What the Bank of Japan is doing right now is absolutely unprecedented. It has announced that it plans to inject the equivalent of approximately $1.4 trillion into the Japanese economy in less than two years.

    As Kyle Bass recently discussed, that dwarfs the quantitative easing that the Federal Reserve has been doing...
    "What they're doing represents 70% of what the Fed is doing here with an economy 1/3 the size of ours"
    The big problem for Japan will come when government bond yields really start to rise. The yield on 10 year government bonds has been creeping up over the past few months, and if they hit the 1.0% mark that will set off some major red flags.

    Because Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of more than 200 percent, the only way that it can avoid a total meltdown of government finances is to have super low interest rates. The video posted below does a great job of elaborating on this point...


    It really is very simple. If interest rates rise substantially, Japan will be done.

    Investor Kyle Bass is one of those that have been warning about this for a long time...
    There's a fatalism, he says, in everyone he talks to in Japan. Their thinking is changing, and the way they talk to him about debt is changing. They already spend 50% of tax revenue on debt service.

    "If rates go up, it's game over."
    The financial problems in Cyprus and Greece are just tiny blips compared to what a major financial crisis in Japan would potentially be like. The Japanese economy is larger than the economies of Germany and Italy combined. If the house of cards in Japan comes tumbling down, trillions of dollars of investments all over the globe are going to be affected.

    And what is happening right now in Japan should serve as a sober warning to the United States. Like Japan, the money printing that the Federal Reserve has been doing has caused economic activity to perk up a bit and it has sent the stock market on an unprecedented run.

    Unfortunately, no bubble that the Federal Reserve has ever created has been able to last forever. At some point, we will pay a very great price for all of the debt that the U.S. government has been accumulating and all of the reckless money printing that the Fed has been engaged in.

    So enjoy the calm before the storm while you still can.

    It won't last for long.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

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    Here's why I started this thread. Since January, the insider 'guerilla' economist, known only as 'V', has been interviewed by Doug Hagmann several times now -- and has stated from the outset that he knows for a fact (insider information) that Japan will be the trigger for the destruction of the global economy.

    Listen to this. It's just 5 minutes long, from Hagmann's interview on 23 March. The plan is explained, and it could not be more clear.

    http://projectavalon.net/'V'_-_The_Plan_-_Doug_Hagmann_23_March_2013.mp3
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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Lots more on this topic in this thread:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-within-weeks

    Several financial situations are reaching an apex; I had often thought that world financial collapse was a desired event but when it didn't happen I figured perhaps I was incorrect, now it appears I was just impatient.

    This will most likely be a slow motion train wreck for those that watch it, for those that don't it will come all of a sudden and they will be caught with their pants down (in many ways).
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Mutual Assured Economic Destruction is a real threat that was

    established to prevent widespread war from breaking out, but never

    thought Japan was a big player in that. If it is part of the chain and they

    do fail the the rest of the chain falls apart too, that cannot be denied.

    My only question is why do they wanna do it know? Either way though

    this system based on debt needs to go, but I do worry how it may

    impact peoples lives. Maybe this will be the wake up call we need to

    build a new system, but only time will tell.
    knowledge is key to wisdom as is in keeping an open mind is essential for opening new doors

    you once kept closed .

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

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    There have been a number of financial analysts, as many reading this thread will know -- including mainstream ones -- who have stated clearly and on record in recent months that the situation is 100% irrecoverable and irreversible.

    Lindsey Williams has claimed recently that he has been told there will be no melt-down for at least three months -- and that a date for the controlled demolition has not yet been decided. But it's possible that the house of cards may fall anyway.

    In his most recent Doug Hagmann interview, this last Friday (24 May), 'V' advised Americans to leave the country if they can easily do so and already have a foothold (bank accounts, residency, etc) elsewhere. As many will know already, this is fundamentally why I am in Ecuador.

    As early as January, when asked by Hagmann, 'V' explained that the crisis in America would be at best like the 1998 collapse of the Russian Ruble (austerity and soup lines, but in general orderly and with medical and supply chains intact) -- and at worst, all out civil war following a total collapse of the infrastructure. There is absolutely no doubt that this is what the DHS is preparing for.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Here's why I started this thread. Since January, the insider 'guerilla' economist, known only as 'V', has been interviewed by Doug Hagmann several times now -- and has stated from the outset that he knows for a fact (insider information) that Japan will be the trigger for the destruction of the global economy.

    Listen to this. It's just 5 minutes long, from Hagmann's interview on 23 March. The plan is explained, and it could not be more clear.

    http://projectavalon.net/'V'_-_The_Plan_-_Doug_Hagmann_23_March_2013.mp3
    Many many thanks, absolutely full of sense. We should take our RRSPs/401 and live on it right now if it is going to disappear anyhow, which it will.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Here's why I started this thread. Since January, the insider 'guerilla' economist, known only as 'V', has been interviewed by Doug Hagmann several times now -- and has stated from the outset that he knows for a fact (insider information) that Japan will be the trigger for the destruction of the global economy.

    Listen to this. It's just 5 minutes long, from Hagmann's interview on 23 March. The plan is explained, and it could not be more clear.

    http://projectavalon.net/'V'_-_The_Plan_-_Doug_Hagmann_23_March_2013.mp3
    Many many thanks, absolutely full of sense. We should take our RRSPs/401 and live on it right now if it is going to disappear anyhow, which it will.
    In his January interview (I think it was), 'V' was asked what the insiders are doing who already knew this was going to happen. He said they were investing in:
    • Metals
    • Resources and assets (like equipment and tools)
    • Farmable land.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    ...in other words: real stuff

    401(k) and 403(b) are lines of IRS tax code. I agree with flash that you should take advantage of knowing that fact before they take advantage of the fact that almost all people (including most of my colleagues in the industry) still believe it's some sort of "guaranteed retirement fund".

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    The four children of my parents (me included) just inherited a land not too far from the city. The 3 others wanted to sell while I wanted to keep (it is a farmland). We are finally keeping it because whatever happen, it will only take in value anyhow, being not too far from the city. Which also means however, not too far from bums either. Now we need the resources on it.

    Gosh, I would love not to have to start farming at my age.

    Edit: I may add that some of the clairvoyant I know here do not understand how come the economy has not collapse yet, it was to happen earlier. We have been given a chance to make up or prepare.

    By the way, American have been buying land like crazy for a few years here in Canada and Quebec. Land, condos, everything they may put their hand on.
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    The irony is that the alt community has been focusing on earth changes, ascension, alien invasion, vaccinations, GMO's, yada yada yada...

    The mainstream is all bent out of shape over gun control, gay marriage, and abortion rights...

    And the real danger is greed and a bunch of arcane financial instruments that almost no one understands.
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    So what is going to happen to the real estate market? I am in a position now where I want to sell and move, at least out of the city, if not to another country. Real estate is a hard asset unlike cash, but won't interest rates start to climb in this financial mess causing real estate to go down?

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    Quote Posted by schneider (here)
    So what is going to happen to the real estate market? I am in a position now where I want to sell and move, at least out of the city, if not to another country. Real estate is a hard asset unlike cash, but won't interest rates start to climb in this financial mess causing real estate to go down?
    It can be expected that credit will dry up and it will be very hard for anyone to take out loans = very little buying and selling unless you have cash.

    As of today, Case-Schiller is reporting gains in the housing market, but prices are still hovering around 2003 levels.

    My $0.02 and not financial advice
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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It really is very simple. If interest rates rise substantially, Japan will be done.
    Hey Bill,

    Well, the way I see it, the Japanese Central Bank is responsible for regulating interest rates, so I don´t believe they will allow them to rise.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Because Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of more than 200 percent, the only way that it can avoid a total meltdown of government finances is to have super low interest rates.
    That´s exactly what the Japanese Government will do, in exchange for even more inflation.

    However, at this point, it´s better to have more inflation while stimulating the economy with lower interest rates than try to control inflation while stagnating the economy with high interest rates.

    If Japan artificially lowers its interest rates right now, it will give them nine to twelve months to fix this crisis. If they use this time wisely, they will be able to control the economic bubble caused by the lower interest rates, preventing the inflation from getting completely out of control.

    So, in my opinion, Japan has at least another nine months to solve this problem.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    In his January interview (I think it was), 'V' was asked what the insiders are doing who already knew this was going to happen. He said they were investing in:

    • Metals
    • Resources and assets (like equipment and tools)
    • Farmable land.
    Quote Posted by donk (here)
    ...in other words: real stuff
    Yep, real stuff. George Green has been saying this for several years. Buy
    • land (not in a city!)
    • appliances, equipment, hands-on resources, and tools
    • long-term storage food
    • spare parts
    • barter items.
    Kerry and I were contacted in 2008 by a very interesting financial insider, never interviewed. He told us explicitly that within a handful of years all cash, bank accounts, and paper financial investments of any kind would go to near zero and be pretty much worthless.

    The message here is to have stuff on hand which is NOT and can never be worthless, and which can help you through what Matt Stein (author of When Technology Fails) calls "The Long Emergency".

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    It's all gonna come down, that's the only thing that's for sure. Many people will be surprised when it happens, and as with potential false flags, I appreciate this heads-up in regard to Japan.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if the situation now in Japan would not be the crucial breach in the dam. It could happen anywhere at any time. It's so hard to predict when things are going to unravel in the financial system in what way exactly, because they always come up with new "schemes undreamed of," to quote Gerald Celente. The can has been kicked down the road since so long already...

    However, if it comes down in Japan first, I think this could be very positive in a way. I mean, when I think back to how the Japanese reacted after Fukushima, how decently they were dealing with the situation and how little panic and chaos ensued, they could maybe lead by example when it comes to how to deal with a financial melt-down.

    And then I think the next step is gonna be something along the lines of what had been written in an article that was published in The New American a week ago, called World Bank Insider Blows Whistle on Corruption, Federal Reserve.
    “We’re going to have a cleaned-up financial system, that’s where it is going, but in the meantime, people who didn’t know how the system was gamed are going to find out,” she said. “We’re going to have a different kind of international financial system.... It’ll be a new kind of world where people know what’s going on — no more backroom deals; that’s not going to keep happening. We’re going to have a different kind of media if people don’t want to be dominated and controlled, which I don’t think they do.”

    While Hudes sounded upbeat, she recognizes that the world is facing serious danger right now — there are even plans in place to impose martial law in the United States, she said. The next steps will be critical for humanity. As such, Hudes argues, it is crucial that the people of the world find out about the lawlessness, corruption, and thievery that are going on at the highest levels — and put a stop to it once and for all. The consequences of inaction would be disastrous.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    I'm curious how much of the money being printed in Japan is loaned out directly to banks as opposed to social services or infrastructure maintenance?

    I know there would still be definite limits to the amount that can be created, but some of the arguments I've seen for printing interest-free currency and funneling it directly into needed areas (like repairing the damaged Fukushima reactors) have made me wonder.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Yep, real stuff. George Green has been saying this for several years. Buy
    Quote land (not in a city!)
    CHECK

    Quote appliances, equipment, hands-on resources, and tools
    CHECK

    Quote long-term storage food
    CHECK

    Quote spare parts
    CHECK

    Quote barter items.
    AAAAAAAND CHECK...

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Kerry and I were contacted in 2008 by a very interesting financial insider, never interviewed. He told us explicitly that within a handful of years all cash, bank accounts, and paper financial investments of any kind would go to near zero and be pretty much worthless
    Not much cash reserve left now after buying a house on 9 acres of land (with water) out in the country, but oddly enough it's actually a sigh of relief. We made it...

    The house and property flippers are back at it again btw, just like nothing ever happened and everything's o.k. now. It's like seeing kids playing in traffic, and all you can do is watch.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Quote The message here is to have stuff on hand which is NOT and can never be worthless, and which can help you through what Matt Stein (author of When Technology Fails) calls "The Long Emergency".
    James Howard Kunstler also calls it the "long emergency" in his really good book called "The Long Emergency"....written in 2005, it still holds up (I think, been awhile). I used to love his blog, I like the way he writes...he got a little cranky for me a couple of years ago though... delving so deeply into this subject will do that to you..

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

    Jim Rogers: U.S. Poised For Major Crash

    May 27, 2013 • 8:34AM

    Jim Rogers, an international fund manager who once was a partner of George Soros, told Money Morning that the U.S. is poised for another massive financial crash, and that the world financial system is now built on the biggest Ponzi Scheme in history. In an interview with Fox Business, cited by Money Morning, Rogers warned, "I don't trust the data from any government, including the U.S. We know that governments lie to us. Everybody's printing money, but it cannot go on. This is all artificial... We're living in a fool's paradise," concealed by the quantitative easing. "The Bank of Japan says it's going to print unlimited amounts of money... Then Mr. Bernanke said I'll match that... I'll print that money too. The Europeans are catching on. You've got money printing going on everywhere and that has never been good for anybody. It cannot go on." Rogers told Fox that he expects that the bottom will blow out of the situation right after the German elections in September.

    http://larouchepac.com/node/26733

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    As for the real estate market here in the US - a new bubble is being created. Real estate in cities etc. should sell well in the upcoming months, with zero down payment loans and other incentives being introduced into the system. This will spur economic activity for a time, but as we all know - bubbles pop eventually.

    For those who are looking for land etc, but don't have much money, you should look into county tax sales.

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    Default Re: The Japanese Financial System Is Beginning To Spin Wildly Out Of Control (and why this is important)

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    Here's why I started this thread. Since January, the insider 'guerilla' economist, known only as 'V', has been interviewed by Doug Hagmann several times now -- and has stated from the outset that he knows for a fact (insider information) that Japan will be the trigger for the destruction of the global economy.

    Listen to this. It's just 5 minutes long, from Hagmann's interview on 23 March. The plan is explained, and it could not be more clear.

    http://projectavalon.net/'V'_-_The_Plan_-_Doug_Hagmann_23_March_2013.mp3
    All of the "V" audio archives:

    Latest -
    May 24, 2013: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-rad...ann-report.mp3

    The remainder are posted in the following article "The culling of the economic unwashed is about to begin"

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