Exorcism - personal experiences?

[donk]

Anyone have any first hand experiences witnessing, performing, or having exorcism done on them?

I've had several trusted sources suggest it may be necessary for a particular problem (or two).

I know it's all within, you shouldn't need outside help and all that. I get all the holistic directions and personal things you are supposed to do to be able to avoid. I get it. 95% of people I talk to say its nonsense or unnecessary or people never need it should be able to "rid demons" through personal responsibility.

I respect all that and have been thinking very deeply on the subject. I'm asking about people actually seeing it in action, not to be talked in to out of it...just to see some perspectives on it. Thanks

[northstar]

I prefer to call them "clearings", because the word "exorcism" carries a lot of Catholic church and Hollywood movie baggage. I have done clearings on myself, and clearings for others. I have also had skilled practitioners (call them exorcists if you like) do clearings for me and certain of my loved ones. (I find it is difficult to clear someone extremely close to me because I find myself too strongly invested in the outcome.)

I find it a bit tiresome to talk about this because I have been vehemently attacked online (in New Age and spiritual type forums!!) whenever I speak about my exorcism work.

People say things like:
"there is no such thing as demons. Those "demons" are just your own dark stuff projected outwards"

Well, I have done intense Jungian shadow work for years and I can assure you I have met and come to terms with my own inner demons (AKA my personal shadow contents), although I have come to strongly suspect that the folks who immediately claim "there is no such thing as demons" might do well to do a bit of their own shadow work.

The entities I have encountered hanging onto my own energy field and the entities I see in the energy fields of other people are simply not "my own inner stuff projected outwards". I always find it a bit odd and funny that folks who believe 100% in angels, aliens, Reiki, energy healing, multiple dimensions, and other supernatural things simply shut their mind closed when the word "demons" comes up. It is interesting for me to observe that.

But on the other hand I do appreciate that many people might have a hard time believing in demons and entities and spirits. I have been seeing them with my clairvoyant sight AND while wide awake for years, and I am always questioning it myself.

Can you do a self exorcism?
Yes, you can.
But in my opinion, why not find a competent and skilled practitioner and let them do their thing?

I like a "do it yourself" project as much as the next person but sometimes it is faster and more effective to let a professional do it.

[Sidney]

Posted by northstar (here)
I prefer to call them "clearings", because the word "exorcism" carries a lot of Catholic church and Hollywood movie baggage. I have done clearings on myself, and clearings for others. I have also had skilled practitioners (call them exorcists if you like) do clearings for me and certain of my loved ones. (I find it is difficult to clear someone extremely close to me because I am too strongly invested in the outcome.)

I find it a bit tiresome to talk about this because I have been vehemently attacked online (in New Age and spiritual type forums!!) whenever I speak about my exorcism work.

People say things like:
"there is no such thing as demons. Those "demons" are just your own dark stuff projected outwards"

Well, I have done intense Jungian shadow work for years and I can assure you I have met and come to terms with my own inner demons (AKA my personal shadow contents), although I have come to strongly suspect that the folks who immediately claim "there is no such thing as demons" might do well to do a bit of their own shadow work.

The entities I encounter hanging onto my own energy field and the entities I see in the energy fields of other people are simply not "my own inner stuff projected outwards". I always find it a bit odd and funny that folks who believe 100% in angels, aliens, Reiki, energy healing, multiple dimensions, and other supernatural things simply shut their mind closed when the word "demons" comes up. It is interesting for me to observe that.

I would be interested in hearing more about your experiences if you come to the point of being up for it. And Donk would not have started this thread if the information was not wanted or needed. We live in troubling times, and it is apparent (to some of us anyway) that there seems to be demons lurking in unlikely places. Any information that could empower us to deal with such things would be very much appreciated. : )

[Forevernyt]

A long time ago, I read the book, The Demonologist. It chronicled the experiences of Ed & Lorraine Warren. They were psychic researchers/exorcists and helped many people. The word demon is just a label that was placed on something that is more than likely extra dimensional and very negative. Reading that book scared the hell out of me, no pun intended. Personally, I have no real life experience with anything supernatural or extra-terrestrial. Nothing ever happens to me. That being said, I have enough room in my reality for the existence of things I cannot see or understand.

Can you tell us about why you think you may need the services of an exorcist? What has been happening? Has there been any external activities or is it just mainly internal?

[Kryztian]

I know of three people who have performed them and none of them are Catholic priests. Two are Episcopal priests and one was an intuitive Catholic who thought he knew what he was doing. I think they were all successful.

I've heard Fr. Malachi Martin say that Exorcisms can be extremely dangerous practices. Once they have commenced, you can not turn you back on the process until it is over. I think the danger part has to do with how bad the entity is that is trying posses you.

You could also ask a Reiki practioner to perform psychic surgery (they should be level 3 or Reiki Master for this) or to see a shamanic healer.

[Forevernyt]

From the information I’ve read about, there are three stages to possession.

1) The invitation. Somehow the victim invites the negative entity to come into their lives. It could by on purpose, the use of rituals or by trickery.
2) Oppression: Once the entity is ensconced, they will proceed to break down their intended victim with all sorts of things to lower their will power. This is the stage where things will fly around the room, teleporting objects away or to impossible place, lifting beds, banging on the walls, etc. As the fear grows, the will power lessons, paving the way for the third stage.
3) Possession. Once the victim is fully broken down, the entity/entities can then inhabit the victim’s body, their purpose being to destroy it and feed off of the energy.

[Lifebringer]

Tip: In a clean heart and mind of Christ Consciousness, the entity cannot survive and the LOVE destroys their evil intent. You must face the ones you created in order to deal with others that attack because you refuse to do so, and draw them into you by the "lie to ones' self. A protection for it to reside.

I mean, if I was up to no good, and had to sit for decades in someone who simply won't listen to my edging them into predicaments, I'd ask for another assignment. Simply wouldn't be able to tolerate the light on the dark thoughts that reveal the true meaning of the intent. When confronted with it and you are honest with yourself, you will find the reasoning for the doubts, fears, and ignoranting of those entities as Christ did and say: Peace, be gone, get thee out of me Satan, this heart and mind belong to Christ and the Heavenly Father.:-)LOL

[Lifebringer]

Shake some iodized salt, since they are sulphuric/chemical and radiated from another dimension/dominion, and have a priest say prayers of removal, the same as Christ taught when he threw them into the pigs, that went into the sea.

[northstar]

Posted by Forevernyt (here)
From the information I’ve read about, there are three stages to possession.

1) The invitation. Somehow the victim invites the negative entity to come into their lives. It could by on purpose, the use of rituals or by trickery.
2) Oppression: Once the entity is ensconced, they will proceed to break down their intended victim with all sorts of things to lower their will power. This is the stage where things will fly around the room, teleporting objects away or to impossible place, lifting beds, banging on the walls, etc. As the fear grows, the will power lessons, paving the way for the third stage.
3) Possession. Once the victim is fully broken down, the entity/entities can then inhabit the victim’s body, their purpose being to destroy it and feed off of the energy.

This is the classical description of possession found in Catholic texts. And I'm not knocking the Catholics - they have left a strong stamp on exorcism and they know their stuff. But possession is often more subtle than that.

1) The invitation. Somehow the victim invites the negative entity to come into their lives. It could by on purpose, the use of rituals or by trickery.

Yes, it does happen this way but a person can also find themselves possessed, oppressed, or inhabited due to no fault of their own. Sometimes people carry ancestral or family entities or curses and when these are cleared, I have seen miraculous healings happen. Sometimes opportunistic entities hop on board when a person finds themself in a low-vibration environment. One of my entities was acquired when I explored old prison grounds with friends when I was a teenager. Other places that are loaded with dark energies and discarnate spirits are hospitals, churches, graveyards and bars and similar establishments.

Entities are especially drawn to people who carry a lot of light! I have personally met holy people and people who characterize themselves as "lightworkers" who nevertheless behave in very dark ways. What better hiding place for a demon than inside the shell of a priest or lightworker?

2) Oppression: Once the entity is ensconced, they will proceed to break down their intended victim with all sorts of things to lower their will power. This is the stage where things will fly around the room, teleporting objects away or to impossible place, lifting beds, banging on the walls, etc. As the fear grows, the will power lessons, paving the way for the third stage.


Yes, this is true and I have personally observed 3D manifestations while wide awake (objects flying about) but oppression can last for years, even a lifetime without dramatic events like objects flying about the room. Sometimes the light goes out in a person's eyes and they experience a string of misfortunes and extremely dark events. Of course, skeptics will dismiss all of that as chance but when that person has an exorcism and is released of their entities, their life often improves radically. So while I don't have concrete proof of entities and demons, the fact that exorcisms often result in dramatic healings and significant improvements in life quality is significant. You can call that the placebo effect or you can call it an exorcism, no matter what you call it the person is healed of their affliction.

3) Possession. Once the victim is fully broken down, the entity/entities can then inhabit the victim’s body, their purpose being to destroy it and feed off of the energy.

Yes, this is a good description but it is narrow. In reality, many people carry small opportunistic (and easily dislodged) energy forms and entities of various sorts that attach themselves for various reasons. Since the purpose is to feed off the energy of the host, the host will find themselves experiencing events that trigger anger, rage, sadness, grief, panic, terror, etc.
Some entities are easy to clear and others are quite embedded and resistant but all of them can be cleared with effort and persistence.
Of course, people will say that all of that can be explained in perfectly mundane ways and I totally agree. But when someone has tried every mundane intervention known to man and their problem keeps getting worse, sometimes they are willing to look at alternative approaches.

[northstar]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Shake some iodized salt, since they are sulphuric/chemical and radiated from another dimension/dominion, and have a priest say prayers of removal, the same as Christ taught when he threw them into the pigs, that went into the sea.

Salt is crystalline and for some reason it is very useful for clearings, cleansing and protection. Personally, I prefer sea salt for this purpose.

You can have the priest say the prayers, your can say them yourself or your can have someone else say them. All these approaches can work well.

[donk]

Posted by Forevernyt (here)
A long time ago, I read the book, The Demonologist. It chronicled the experiences of Ed & Lorraine Warren. They were psychic researchers/exorcists and helped many people. The word demon is just a label that was placed on something that is more than likely extra dimensional and very negative. Reading that book scared the hell out of me, no pun intended. Personally, I have no real life experience with anything supernatural or extra-terrestrial. Nothing ever happens to me. That being said, I have enough room in my reality for the existence of things I cannot see or understand.

Can you tell us about why you think you may need the services of an exorcist? What has been happening? Has there been any external activities or is it just mainly internal?

I relate sooo much to your post here (& first reply a lot northstar, as well the rest, thanks everyone), nothing happens directly to me either--but I see the 3d 5 sense effects of EDs occasionally, and am a magnet for people that are sensitive.

As such, one such sensitive person recently re-entered (she was like a Lil sis growing up, my best friend's sister) my life recently, felt my house (whatever is there told her to get out and is too much for her), and saw in someone close which sounds to be final stages of oppression, she said she sees at least "two" (she is careful about terminology, the Christian/catholic institutional damage runs deep, she is "open" Christian trained in reiki all about love love love.

She says the victim is strong light and been dealing with this for long time and is losing, and suggested looking into exorcism, which is why I'm learning as much as I can

I'm def so invested I'm just hoping she chooses right path. I been almshouses pushing stuff into her will and forcing meetings with people I think can help, she seems blocked when she tries to help herself.

Sorry this may be incoherent, a lot going on and just wanted to add a few puzzle pieces

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Oh and the girl said she feared she was in danger full possession. As in emminently. Which is why I'm concerned

[white wizard]

Back in 2007, I was actually possessed by a very nasty spirit after doing

some ghost hunting. I was not any where as near spiritually advanced as I

am know so basically I was an easy target after challenging the spirit.

It occured in stages.

The first stage involved finding out what my weakness was, and using

that to torment me. I was only weak while sleeping and that was when

it struck. During the day I pretty much just ignored it, but when I fell

asleep it would always get in my dreams.

In he second stage it was able to weaken me down to a depression

and play with my thoughts, but I was always aware of what it was

doing. It also began to target my friends who noticed things in

my house were not right.

The third stage involved full blown incidents of being dragged out of

bed and choked, but I always fought back and never backed down,

because i knew I would only give it more power. Eventually after

a month of battling this spirit my guides and over soul stepped in

and I witnessed and heard what sounded like a battle in my bedroom.

After that I never felt the presence around me again.

Since then I have learned a lot about how to deal with these things.

Never back down from them this only makes them feel stronger they

target weak people in most cases who are afraid.

Never feed them fear it will make them instantly more power full in

stead love them unconditionally this will drive them crazy.

If they target you in sleep paralysis, which many do realize what is

going on and fight back with emotions of strength compassion and

love.

If these do not work contact a psychic medium and have her confront

it directly or finds answers on what it is.

Since my encounter in 2007 I have learned to deal with spirits

in a positive way and have been able to live in coexistence with t

them.

It seems like every other house I move into has been haunted

since then, but I have been able to make common ground with

most spirits and currently live with a house full of spirits with no

problem. The best solution is finding common ground with them

and respecting boundaries.

Nowadays since I met a sensitive partner I actually communicate

with them on a regular basis, and its been an eye opening experience

communicating with the other side in a positive way.

[naste.de.lumina]

I've been rethinking and decided to remove the post because I believe that fled the topic.
Thanks and apologies to friends who read it.

[Bohémond]

I have had first-hand experiences with our next-door neighbour who is a great Voodoo master. I can witness the changes in my husband's personality when under attack (he refused to be called by his name, wrapped himself in the bathrug to go out, etc.) and he has been clinically dead a number of times. The neighbour also killed my dog. It is difficult to deny these things, although you always encounter people who tell you it's your own fault that you attract these "demons", being too vulnerable, or any other reason and you should just ignore them. But will you leave your husband unconscious? By the way, I got him back to life with Chinese reanimation techniques and prayer (above all to Archangel Michael). Nevertheless, when you are not used to such things, it gives you the creeps in the beginning, when you are not yet sure that the other person (or animal) will recover. Therefore, my first advice would be to call on the help of the Angelic forces.

In many cases an effigy is used which must be included into the Healing of the dark forces before placing protection around it, and in any case you have to repeat the procedure more often than not because the misuser will try to "break" the protection. Those black magicians use "shape-shifting" on the doll, so if you send any hurting thought forms to them, they come back to YOU.

I'll come back to the forum, got a technical problem over here.

[donk]

Heh, it's synchronistic you mention that, my gf's dad was attacked directly by voodoo--they found an effigy being used the opposite way you describe...thanks for your input, I'd love to hear more. ADDED Welcome to Avalon!!


Naste, I appreciate your decision but appreciated your post more. I didn't think it was off topic. Please feel free to share like that anytime, I love it, thank you

[soleil]

hey donk i read something the other day that might be helpful. i'm going to search and come back to post it.

[edit] im back


1st - this one might be helpful...http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/in...adder-meridian

2nd - http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/in...plant-profiles


but hereeeees the one i was really looking for: http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/in.../archontic-spe

"SPE’s are jelly fish or crab grass like blobs with “tentacles” that are genetically engineered by the Archons to implant the side (lateral) head of the target, can be either right or left or both sides."





"This implant takes time to "“train” the body to “listen” to the artificial entity, and as the person is unaware that the mind control is being used to influence their thoughts, actions and behaviors, the entity actually “grows”. It has a hub/brain in the center blob which has etheric tentacles that will grow to stimulate parts of the CNS/ autonomic responses in the spinal nerves and spinal cord. In more advanced stages it will be the voice inside the host’s head, pushing thoughts into your mental body. It feeds and grows on the life force of the host like a parasite. The thoughts are programmed to genetically mimic your own voice recognition pattern which hardwires the brain to react automatically as the brain thinks it is receiving self-impulsed thoughts. This is to create human military machines (super soldiers) or create sociopaths, who do not ask questions but just carry out orders or react without applying reason or intelligence."

i really dont know if this is helpful, but i do hope these link(s) can help even a teeny bit.

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more:
http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/in...rnicke-s-brain
"Wernicke's and Broca Area Of Brain

There are many different interrelationships between mind control programming used in both human and alien military technology of which the implants are used to stimulate and program thoughts into the Wernicke's and Broca area of the brain. The Wernicke's area is the part of the brain's function to comprehend speech sounds and language. So it is the Wernicke's area of the Brain that is implanted with recurring "voice recognition" negative talk and negative language by SPE's and other types of mind control implants. Many times Negative self talk and negative thought forms are programmed with "booby traps". These booby traps are a military tactic to self destruct the person through the use of extreme fears or intimidation, if they locate or remove the implant. As an example, in my experience with a client, when the SPE Archon was located and "recognized", the SPE created the thought form in the client, "Don't listen to this stupid bitch, she does not know what she is talking about.". The client was aware enough to realize that this was not his thought-form, and could feel the SPE when identified " pushing" negative thoughts to incite his inner rage and anger. Other mind controlled booby traps are programmed through the implant to incite or create harm in the person, such as the thoughtform, " If you do not do this ______ (insert "activity"), you will have a heart attack and die". Learning to observe and disarm the booby trap thought-form and then disarm and remove the source implant can occur when the Wernicke's area is cleared.

[Bohémond]

donk - Thank you for your welcome!

I would like to add that it is not enough to remove dark forces, demons, entities, you name it - you have to Heal them, otherwise they come back in even greater number as the house has been cleaned up (see NT - what Jesus Christ said about expulsion of evil spirits); and not to forget, there is a hierarchy amongst entities and you should free them all from their need of hurting any being.
There is what is called Spiritual Parasiticism; spirits(disincarnated) that parasitize a mortal being without knowing what they are doing and parasites that are sent by obsessors. Those spirits are always linked to the astral body, so,by the way, you have to be very careful if you are clairvoyant and work through the astral body.

teradactyl - concerning DEVICES:
People have been found with devices placed in the astral counterpart of the nervous system. These devices are usually really tiny electronic appliances that cause functional disturbances in sensory, perceptual, and motor areas. They are often attached to the cerebrum or to the bones of the skull linked with tiny filaments to the central nervous system or to the nuclei along the medulla. Some devices receive electromagnetic signals, giving commands for example to the auditory region, frequently inducing forms of self-destruction and an incitement to horrible actions. The official médicine calls this 'hallucinations' - don't expect any help there. Well, it makes you shiver somehow... There are some parallels to what you said.

I thoroughly investigated this domain ("thanks' to our neighbour) and could go on and on, but if anyone has any specific question, I might try and answer - from long experience!

Re: Salts:

They in fact purify (mostly the environment) if the charge has not been implanted for more than one or two years but they are not powerful enough in case of deliberate spells. (I tried all this out and looked for experimental proof).

[mahalall]

Recognising and accepting that;
Many of the specific complaints of demonic infestation are explainable.
Look for natural explanations in the home or environment. High levels of Radon gas (a radioactive gas that comes from the earth into the basements of many homes that may cause hallucinations at high levels) (1)

Pineal embracing the presence helps all parties smile.


(1)http://religiousdemonology.com/Clergy.htm

[Bohémond]

mahalall

Thanks for the reference on the web site (religious demonology), it explains clearly the different forms of exorcism of the Roman Catholic Church (more or less the same in the Orthodox Church), and in the case of possession this might be the only solution that is safe (above all for the exorcist).

I might add that our dogs saw the "ghosts" in our house - looking at them when they came down the stairs and sometimes barking at them. When we made the sign of the cross and said a prayer (Pater Noster), the dogs stopped and laid down again.

Would you mind explainig what you mean by "Pineal embracing the presence"?

Thank you

[markpierre]

Whatever fits your belief system is what's going to work. You believe it's there and it's there. You believe it's gone and it's gone.

I mean real belief, like core belief. ie, You're a body and you're vulnerable to what doesn't have bodies.
Someone else can fix it, but you can't learn to do it yourself.
Or that you're not interpreting things from an incredibly narrow perspective.