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    i'll just go with some wacky stuff.
    ...here's a few processing stuff i might have thought,
    autism is the tool the ptb use, to raise their new paradigm. ..well that's foolish
    This isn't really so wacky. I wouldn't go so far to say autism, specifically, was created as a "tool", but the result of autism, among many, many other ailments and debilitating diseases, is certainly an intended consequence. Many people have a hard time grasping this sort of concept because it seems absurd to suggest a handful of people--or even the much more abstract and nebulous "PTB"--are sitting around a table somewhere (as in a "Dr. Evil"-type scene, to employ an Austin Powers reference) plotting the deliberate dumbing down of the masses, be it physiologically or psychologically, or both, such that we slaves won't understand or question our servitude to the elite. But this is exactly the reality on our planet today. Except it is not a conspiracy hatched around a table, per se. It is a much more complex dynamic that spans hundreds of years (which actually suggests a non-human intelligence underlying the "conspiracy", for lack of a better word) in which every single person participates and advances the agenda some way, almost always unwittingly, via indoctrination, conditioning, mind control, and ironically, as a result their own "diet" and "injections", among other things, that impair critical thinking. To render this to the simplest of terms, many well-intended and caring people who want nothing more than to serve humanity for positive change, including doctors, educators--even politicians--are employed by this agenda as pawns and "useful idiots". (I don't mean to disparage those who know not what they do by calling them idiots, only to point out a term coined by the power brokers themselves). They are not consciously in on the conspiracy, but they play a vital role. This dynamic is well documented in virtually every discipline that is complicit in the dumbing down of humanity, both physiologically and psychologically. The big institutional culprits are the public education system (the program) and the practice of allopathic medicine (a continuum that ranges from bloodletting to chemotherapy). But virtually every institution that shapes human behavior is infected with this agenda.

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    Literally millions of human beings were contaminated unknowingly by this monkey virus -- throughout the entire vaccinated population.
    scratch that. nothing happens "unknowingly". it was done on purpose, of that i have no doubt.

    on a side-note, i realize my opinion about eugenics is controversial and not shared by most people on the forum but imagine more and more children being born or turned into disabled people, who then may procreate and have disabled children of their own... the end result will be human extinction, but meanwhile, from a soul's perspective, you come to earth to experience physicality and what you get is a life full of misery and suffering (feeding extradimensional parasites) because all bodies you can choose to incarnate into are damaged in some way.

    the pseudo-moralistic outcry against eugenics is part of the zionist/reptilian agenda, the "love & light" "we're so ethical it hurts" part.

    people never see it this way if i talk with anyone about eugenics. all they see is the killing of human beings but not the lifelong suffering the souls have to experience because they're imprisoned in their bodies (feeding extradimensional parasites), against all natural processes which among animals would lead to the quick death of a disabled body by a predator, thus keeping the species strong and healthy, unlike humanity which is getting sicker and sicker.

    what has to be done is getting rid of those who secretly poison and kill us, and then freeing those souls that are trapped in bodies that allow for almost nothing but suffering...which creates more suffering around them because like attracts like.
    This is a very insightful observation. I would point out, if it might be any use to your perspective, that a firefighter enters a burning building for a specific reason... The incarnation of many of us who are suffering this eugenics onslaught you correctly observe might well be analogous.

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    Thanks T Smith for your website reference (excellent) and your much tame answers to Truth, I just hope he will see the analogy clearly, which I have been trying to confer in a much more direct way.

    And for Truth, if having a child with disabilities means higher and faster spiritual development and#or a crucial way to help humanity, yes, then I accept to go through it.

    Finally, sadly, many of these children are tested by the hidden governments or MKUltra or Army for their particular abilities because some of them show very particular abilities used by PTB for nefarious objectives, of course without the consent of the child becoming adult. So yes, I do think that in some of the cases, Autism is created purposefully amongst a population with the aim of creating special abilities as much as possible. Just think of the savant autistic. Some are more crippled and cannot be used, but some can.
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    i agree, this is the planet of the apes.
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    We can measure the evolution of a race or a specie based on the way they take care of their most fragile ones.
    i don't quote your entire post here, just this tiny piece but please explain to me these things:

    - why are bodies in which souls are incapable of providing for themselves due to certain defects eliminated in nature?

    this happens in all species except humans. animals do it instinctively - letting defective offspring die or be eaten (examples - birds who can't fly, fish who are not strong enough to swim certain distances, land animals who are not fast enough to outrun predators, etc.)

    - what do you think happens if people with genetic defects are allowed to procreate and these defects are inherited by their offspring? will that improve the species?

    - how long do you think will it take for humanity to become extinct by going against nature and allowing their defective specimens to live, procreate and multiply due to a screwed sense or ethics?

    - do you believe that humans stand above nature and should do things that go against nature and basic laws of creation, such as "the strong ones live and the weak ones die, otherwise the species perishes"? don't you think nature's laws will triumph over human laws in the end?

    - would you like to have a mentally disabled child instead of a healthy one in order to grow more spiritually?
    This is a very complex dynamic, Truth, that probably requires an entirely new thread. I haven't read all your posts on this matter, but of the few I have, it would seem you may be conflicted about eugenics. I will elaborate below, and if I am misinformed on your stance, please correct me.

    On the one hand, I get the sense that you support the philosophy advanced by the founders of the eugenics movement here in America (which directly inspired Nazi Germany, etc.), e.g. a method of preserving and improving the dominant groups in the population, so the species could thrive. Eugenics wasn't always a dirty word, as I'm sure you know. It was considered a progressive pursuit (by some), and if one queried all the social engineers involved prior to WW II, they would almost assuredly describe themselves as "service-to-others". On the other hand, you seem appalled by the eugenics movement. Many of the fragile traits you fear will result in the extinction of the species, if left to propagate, have been brought about by the eugenics movement, be it deliberately or by consequence. Almost all of the drugs, gmos, chemtrails, fluoride, etc., etc. (the list goes on and on), that are destroying human DNA are rooted in the eugenics movement, which was forced underground after the horrors of WWII. But we should be of no mistake: eugenics is alive an well, albeit existent in the shadowy underground of the power structure. That understood, can you see the conflict here when humans decide to play an active role in the natural selection process? Even if you disagree with the moral argument against eugenics--as in the ends somehow justify the means--it is still hubris beyond imagination to suggest humanity should play any role in the collective propagation of the species, no matter what the motive, be it psychopathically motivated by a delusional belief of grandeur or be it motivated by a true, albeit still delusional, belief that assuming the role of God in the propagation process equates to service to others.

    I understand this is a very complex issue, and there are other factors, as non-human influences that have and are influencing human evolution, etc. We can hash all that out, but the bottom line is, eugenics is a very bad idea after you weigh in all considerations.

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    Many thanks Carmody, this is very interesting. I will reread the article once again. I found this journal of medecine quite interesting too and bookmarked it. This article you posted would mean, if you extrapolate, that most genetic mishappening could also be corrected through chemical or other enhancement.

    What I was surprised about is the inverse correlation between stress and memory. More stress, less memory, less stress, more memory. I would go as far as asking myself if these types of memory are not in fact genetically derived as well. For example, Tesla who have been submitted to heavy stress of war, to chemical and vaccines used in war, etc, would have had not only a genetic manipulation (willfull of not from PTB) and OR vibrational manipulation that would have an impact on offsprings.

    I read years ago that the descendants of the Jewish victims rescued from concentration camps were much more prone to all king of mental and stress related diseases, even if they had had a very good life all along. As if a switch was turned on when suffering immensely in the camps and the turned on switch propagate to future generations.

    I also read that most cases of diabetis, in Europe (our way of eating in America and our heavy chemical food industry may have changed the data), precisely in Finland, were traced back three generations behind from parents who had suffered famines, either a great grandmother that had starved during pregnancy or a great grandfather who had starved in the 2 years prior to puberty. This was transmitted somehow genetically to the third generation in the chain. Something from it switch the genes on for diabetis.

    If we extrapolate from this, the heavy spraying we have, the heavy pesticides we have, the hormones in the animals we have, the GMO food we consume (in Canada, which was the land of experimentation in GMO unknown from the public for more than 30 years), and now the EMF pollution we have, all this is starting to have an impact on our children and will get worst with time. I should put that post on the Monsanto thread.

    Not only do we have real stress with work, tv, playstation games, and just plain survival, imposing much on our gene pool, but also with all the chemical imposed on us.

    It won't be nice in 3 generations if we go on that way.

    Then we will need other chemicals to enhance ourselves and correct those imposed pollution genetic manipulations, that only the very wealthy, 1%, will be able to afford. Perfect control.

    Truth, you are tackling the problem from the wrong end. There was about no autism 50 years ago, and there is still about none in Africa. And this is not due to genetic strenght, believe it. `First generation African children here in America have as much autism as the general population here, while there is about none in Africa (they can't afford even the chemicals).

    In me meantime, only parents with good revenues can help their children out this very difficult predicament. And it is those parents that are ringing the bell for all of society.

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    You guys sure have been busy in here while I'm away!

    I am glad that people are thinking so much,
    that we understand each other and agree on some things!

    You guys would really get a kick out of seeing my boy;
    he is anything but dumb. he is just weird, lol!

    He is starting to do some pretty amazing things,
    stuff most people who know him might not believe...

    he understands some fairly complicated interactions, is starting to be helpful (to certain people lmao),
    and is learning new things especially as his diet improves.

    i hope they don't keep sticking him full of shots.
    i can only hope that if that happens, he has developed a resistance.

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    i agree, this is the planet of the apes.
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    Just another perspective here on the topic of Autism by Esther Hicks. Sometimes i had wondered if these intelligent children are here for a special reason or purpose. As I truly believe they are. Some say these children vibrate at a higher frequency and possibly have the 3rd Strand of DNA integrated already in the human genome. I look at these children as a great benefit to this planet, not a handicap. I'm not quite sure it's the vaccines that cause autism, but i could be wrong. Please give this a Listen, see if it resonates. Heartfelt words spoken here on this topic. All my Love and thoughts to you OP and the parents and families with Autistic children.

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    It's half true- half not . It's the spiritualists' /religious, metaphysical take on everything but robbed of the reality /scientific explanation of causes and consequences . While she says 'no one's trapped here' , it's not correct, it maybe psychologically workable stance on 'all human matters' . We are trapped here , as biological entities for very long time .
    We had to adapt, adjust, work through ages and ages of adaptation processes, some harmonious some uneven .

    That's how you have people born with various levels of physical and mental development not matching the planetary conditions, some to a level of not being able to care for themselves . Some more able than everyone else .

    Such people /children were born in every society and culture, those with severe disabilities usually cast away or did not survive long .
    No spiritualist alone can explain the truth such as no scientist cut off deeper awareness and connection between phenomena can explain the truth . They just 'do not know yet' .



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    One thing the Germans got wrong, in my opinion, was their insistence on this abstract thing they called "Perfection".
    "Perfectibilism" was around long before the world wars kicked off.

    But just because a system is efficient doesn't mean it's humane.
    And you can't just deny the pain and suffering of the MILLIONS killed by the Nazis as some kind of magic carpet ride into a golden age, either.

    I respect people who try to look at both sides of history.
    But my fear of the Nazis is almost greater than my fear of American capitalists -- they were so busy, so dedicated, so wholly behind the banner of genocide.
    At least the occasional mistake or indulgence of laziness throws a wrench into the progress of corporatism.

    But even Hitler's "perfect empire" might have deteriorated eventually into corruption and chaos.
    Just look at the SS and the tricks they pulled when Germany collapsed.
    It was every man for himself, and that is an aspect of human life that will never change.
    Not until we all agree that violence is not the answer.

    that includes ALL forms of violence, even GMO and genetic warfare -- crimes on the MICRO level and not just things you can see with the naked eye.
    People should be interested in what goes on in the courts, who is lobbying whom, and what the corporations are taking from us today.

    What kind of fruit comes from a garden where everything has to be the same and progress at the same level of efficiency?

    We cannot cultivate poison and tell our children that it's good food...

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    i WILL REPRODUCE MY POST FROM YOU OTHER THREAD TESLA IF YOU DO NOT MIND, i THINK IT IS NEEDED HERE TOO. And yes, Paul and mods, I am sending someone to sh it and I do not want to remove this, this is extremely deeply felt. You can put me on vacation if you want, but please do not remove it.


    Being near would have been a great idea, not only to share your love with your son, but also to stimulate him (sensory stimulation) as much as possible and teach over an above what he already has at his group home.

    I do not know when your time is up with the probation agents, I would have collected information on autism and would have ask for a special case based on clemency, promisisng I would come back every month for probation, or something like that.

    Now that you are looking at solutions Tesla, you will have to become mommy tiger. You have to fight (gentle relentless fight, relentless, not those you were arrested for lol) all his life, to obtain the best for him. Because,...... nobody truly understand except you and moms in the same situation. Teachers do not understand, schoolboards do not understand, hospitals do not understand, you and moms like you do.

    Now, I have been active on this thread for a main reason: i am a mom who knows, like you. When my daughter was diagnosed with - autism, retardation, dysphasia (they did not know exactly what she had) at 4, and that I was divorcing from a terrible men at the same time, left penniless in order to get rid of him, having gained 100 pounds from stress, I was devastated. I had worked younger for mentally handicaps workshops, and I did not want my daughter ending up like this on one hand, on the other hand I knew she was bright and had some emotions but would not look in someones eyes.

    The prognostics were that she would not finish primary school, even the pediatrician was insisting on the teenager vaccine early (i refused) saying those kids often get raped. Can you imagine.

    So, I designed a plan on a 10 years basis to help her. It started from finding allllll the free help existing in my province, all of it. Then, being free meant often not available because of low budgets. So I learned to bitch in public, in hospital auditoriums during presentation on children therapies, in the deaf and mute institute for helping her dysphasia, at the local health place lately because she is right now extremely depressed and suicidal. One of the reason being that those children days are extremely stressful, having to put in at least 4 times as much efforts as anyone else to learn, to talk, etc.

    After 12 years of following my plan, I remain only with her being depressed, so this summer we are taking a brake and travelling to Europe. How come I can? Because from a prognostic of light autism and severe dysphasia, plus ADD, I ended up with a kid basically normal, only a few remnants of dysphasia.

    She is now 16, will be in the 11th grade high school next year, succeeds with As and Bs, and the special ed school for learning disable but normal intelligence is directing her curriculum so that she will be able to go to college.

    For a kid who could not speak, for which I had private singing lessons given starting at 8, giving the mandate to the singing teacher to make her speak, she felt in love with music and is now writing her own songs, her own music and she sings. She was in one of the biggest competition last may on television. She is now asked as a speaker on dysphasia and learning disabilities for future teachers in universities.

    For you Tesla here you find her song she competed with




    And p i ss o ff The truth is in there, I have no patience for such people any more.

    Forgot to say: she is also completely bilingual, which is never seen in dysphasic children. I am sooooo proud of her, that kid has worked about 10 times more than others to reach this state of being. It makes her a very persistent, hard worker, dedicated person, and very sensitive to others too.

    And yes, now that she is better, I cracked and went down, but I am not coming back from depression and I would do what I did for her 100 times over again, it was that much worthwile. We do have a great time together.

    This is learning unconditional love truth, I do not think you can ever understand this. Her mission may be to teach love.
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    We can measure the evolution of a race or a specie based on the way they take care of their most fragile ones.
    i don't quote your entire post here, just this tiny piece but please explain to me these things:

    - why are bodies in which souls are incapable of providing for themselves due to certain defects eliminated in nature?

    this happens in all species except humans. animals do it instinctively - letting defective offspring die or be eaten (examples - birds who can't fly, fish who are not strong enough to swim certain distances, land animals who are not fast enough to outrun predators, etc.)

    - what do you think happens if people with genetic defects are allowed to procreate and these defects are inherited by their offspring? will that improve the species?

    - how long do you think will it take for humanity to become extinct by going against nature and allowing their defective specimens to live, procreate and multiply due to a screwed sense or ethics?

    - do you believe that humans stand above nature and should do things that go against nature and basic laws of creation, such as "the strong ones live and the weak ones die, otherwise the species perishes"? don't you think nature's laws will triumph over human laws in the end?

    - would you like to have a mentally disabled child instead of a healthy one in order to grow more spiritually?
    This is a very complex dynamic, Truth, that probably requires an entirely new thread. I haven't read all your posts on this matter, but of the few I have, it would seem you may be conflicted about eugenics. I will elaborate below, and if I am misinformed on your stance, please correct me.

    On the one hand, I get the sense that you support the philosophy advanced by the founders of the eugenics movement here in America (which directly inspired Nazi Germany, etc.), e.g. a method of preserving and improving the dominant groups in the population, so the species could thrive. Eugenics wasn't always a dirty word, as I'm sure you know. It was considered a progressive pursuit (by some), and if one queried all the social engineers involved prior to WW II, they would almost assuredly describe themselves as "service-to-others". On the other hand, you seem appalled by the eugenics movement. Many of the fragile traits you fear will result in the extinction of the species, if left to propagate, have been brought about by the eugenics movement, be it deliberately or by consequence. Almost all of the drugs, gmos, chemtrails, fluoride, etc., etc. (the list goes on and on), that are destroying human DNA are rooted in the eugenics movement, which was forced underground after the horrors of WWII. But we should be of no mistake: eugenics is alive an well, albeit existent in the shadowy underground of the power structure. That understood, can you see the conflict here when humans decide to play an active role in the natural selection process? Even if you disagree with the moral argument against eugenics--as in the ends somehow justify the means--it is still hubris beyond imagination to suggest humanity should play any role in the collective propagation of the species, no matter what the motive, be it psychopathically motivated by a delusional belief of grandeur or be it motivated by a true, albeit still delusional, belief that assuming the role of God in the propagation process equates to service to others.

    I understand this is a very complex issue, and there are other factors, as non-human influences that have and are influencing human evolution, etc. We can hash all that out, but the bottom line is, eugenics is a very bad idea after you weigh in all considerations.
    i think you're throwing two very different things into the same pot here. i also think that people do this is intended by those who control humanity because it ties something good to something bad and so most people assume both things are bad.

    what was intended in the 3rd reich had nothing to do with what you see in the world today. anybody who researches history of the 20th century and doesn't just listen to the ubiquitous lies will become aware of this.

    the 3rd reich was the almost ideal template of a nation on its way into the golden age. this may sound fanciful but it's true. the philosophies they represented were already put into writing by germans in the 19th century and that's why germany was forced into two wars. most ideas the nazis had were not new but they implemented them on a grand scale which resulted in the greatest and fastest advance in the well-being and positive development of a people in history, ever.

    they prohibited abortion and encouraged healthy eating, sports, biological farming, homeopathy and the use of natural as opposed to allopathic medicine. they researched alternative treatments for cancer and many other diseases and were leading in pretty much all sciences.

    the ultimate goal in everything they did was a development for the benefit of the german people from a spiritual, non-materialistic perspective, not international capitalistic parasitism or the purely materialistic communism that were running the rest of the world back then and the whole world today.

    the use of humane ways of reducing the number of babies that are born disabled or freeing souls that have become trapped in disabled bodies right after birth would have led to a natural decrease in genetic defects and, given enough time, would have eliminated them altogether. the souls would have been free to incarnate again immediately in a healthy body, without the trauma of lifelong suffering. it would have improved the racial stock (the physical bodies) and given all souls the best possible biological material to work with.

    "in a healthy body lives a healthy spirit".

    the focus on spirituality and humanity instead of money, on idealism instead of capitalism, was one reason why people from about 30 different nations fought alongside germans in the ss, even people from tibet and india.

    what most people believe today is that the controllers who poison and kill humanity, who use corporations like monsanto or the bill gates foundation to secretly try to depopulate the earth are in some way the remains of the 3rd reich or were influenced by them. nothing could be further from the truth.

    most of these companies as well as banks, oil corporations, the media who spread all these lies and all capitalist as well as communist governments today are owned or controlled by jews (who are not real semitic jews in the historical sense but khazars). behind this "chosen" race hides the enemy of humanity, reptilians who want the planet for themselves and either enslave all humans or, if that is not possible, kill them. they use human bodies as hosts and keep their bloodlines pure but their souls are different from ours. there are literally hundreds of quotes from jews all throughout recent history that tell exactly this in plain words (that all other races must be enslaved or, if not possible, killed. it's spelled out in their holy books as well. see the old testament for reference.) but the majority of people don't see the forest for the trees.

    national socialism was the polar opposite to what these people (or beings) do and that is the reason why they tried to eliminate the german people. there are many famous quotes from that time in which they admitted that ww2 was not fought against the nazis or hitler but against the german people. they tried the same with ww1, to eliminate the german people because it is the race that has the potential to lead the world, by example, into the golden age. today they still try to kill the german people, the german spirit, but nowadays it happens through multi-culturalism and re-education. lies and deception have always been their most harmful weapons.

    sorry for going somewhat off-topic here but all these things tie together and most of the people today have a completely erroneous view of history and why things happened the way they did and what's really going on today. they may realize that the "one world" game plan leads to global control and enslavement, deeper into materialism and away from spirit, but they don't see that the true path to the golden age was already pointed out by germany 80 years ago. eugenics as i described it is just one tiny piece of this puzzle.
    This is an interesting perspective. I don’t take issue with the alternative view of history (we all know history is written by the victors of conflict), but the one snag I have with this perspective is the blatant hubris underlying the tacit suggestion that humanity (or even more alarming, a cultural sub-sect of humanity) should orchestrate and engineer its own selection process--and more disturbing--that of the species at large. This is nothing less than an agenda of conquest.

    Throughout history the propagation of cultural and spiritual values has always been instilled by conquest, so this is not surprising, and indeed the whole of humanity is at present under a brutal attack where the surviving prisoners, if any, will be subject to brutal slavery, spiritual torture, and “the heal of a boot stomping on the face of humanity forever,” to quote Orwell. These are very grave and trying times for humanity, our nature being what it is. But this is a side issue to the point.

    Even if one subscribes to the philosophy you describe, by which a distinct group of humans classified by unique anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and social affiliation (what Hitler envisioned as the Master Race) have envisioned an answer to the current onslaught waged against humanity and therefore qualify to advance a prescription for a golden era, this vision is nothing more than a competing school of conquest. The progenitors of the NWO also envision a “golden era” for humanity. If indeed I am throwing two forms of eugenics into a single pot, then at the end of the day what we are really describing is an epic battle for world domination, and the dynamic and control of a 4th-Reich, so-to-speak, albeit waged with weapons that have evolved from clubs and spears to weapons of mass eugenics. To those of us subject to this struggle for the throne of a scientific dictatorship (the 99.99% of us) it maters not what faction gains the upper hand; both employ the philosophy of eugenics as weapons of mass social engineering. As a result, we humans as a species face the very likely possibility of becoming assimilated into an entirely new species and going the way of the Dodo. With irony I point out this seems to be the same concern you have…. If we are to survive, we must overcome the war waged against us with weapons of mass eugenics.

    To wit:

    Who decides the optimal selection process? Who determines what constitutes healthy stock, desirable genes, etc.? What human (or ultimately, non-human) authority, and under what intelligence and spiritual qualifications and unqiue awareness, determines what genes collectively to propagate, what genes collectively to irradicate, and who lives and dies? I submit even the most beneign and enlightened human being alive on this planet or elsewhere is not not qualified to answer these questions. If humanity is to thrive and even survive, nature, expressed via the collective development of the consciousness of the species en mass, need determine these questions in a homeopathic, organic fashion. Not by a handful of conquerors who would assume an allopathic remedy via the prescription of eugenics. (Again, we could debate this issue in an whole new thread--there is a lot here). The consciousness of every single human being on the planet participates in this equation and in ways incalculable to the unawakened 3-d consciousness.

    All this said, I do agree with you that the very survival of species is at present threatened, and in ways you correctly observe, but I submit this is presicely on account of reasons founded on the philosophy of eugenics, which at the core describes the dynamic where the few determine and control the course and destiny of the many. As a people, we need to defeat our conquerors who are currently waging war against us. The war, and ultimately genocide, is always justified because our conquerors believe they know what’s best. The end game is always a mass culling, where in theory the strong survive and continue to propagate the species (albeit as slaves), thus rejuvenating the species into our Brave New World engineered by our Brave New Masters. If seen to its envisioned conclusion, this development does not bode well for the future of humanity, imho.
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    i WILL REPRODUCE MY POST FROM YOU OTHER THREAD TESLA IF YOU DO NOT MIND, i THINK IT IS NEEDED HERE TOO. And yes, Paul and mods, I am sending someone to sh it and I do not want to remove this, this is extremely deeply felt. You can put me on vacation if you want, but please do not remove it.


    Being near would have been a great idea, not only to share your love with your son, but also to stimulate him (sensory stimulation) as much as possible and teach over an above what he already has at his group home.

    I do not know when your time is up with the probation agents, I would have collected information on autism and would have ask for a special case based on clemency, promisisng I would come back every month for probation, or something like that.

    Now that you are looking at solutions Tesla, you will have to become mommy tiger. You have to fight (gentle relentless fight, relentless, not those you were arrested for lol) all his life, to obtain the best for him. Because,...... nobody truly understand except you and moms in the same situation. Teachers do not understand, schoolboards do not understand, hospitals do not understand, you and moms like you do.

    Now, I have been active on this thread for a main reason: i am a mom who knows, like you. When my daughter was diagnosed with - autism, retardation, dysphasia (they did not know exactly what she had) at 4, and that I was divorcing from a terrible men at the same time, left penniless in order to get rid of him, having gained 100 pounds from stress, I was devastated. I had worked younger for mentally handicaps workshops, and I did not want my daughter ending up like this on one hand, on the other hand I knew she was bright and had some emotions but would not look in someones eyes.

    The prognostics were that she would not finish primary school, even the pediatrician was insisting on the teenager vaccine early (i refused) saying those kids often get raped. Can you imagine.

    So, I designed a plan on a 10 years basis to help her. It started from finding allllll the free help existing in my province, all of it. Then, being free meant often not available because of low budgets. So I learned to bitch in public, in hospital auditoriums during presentation on children therapies, in the deaf and mute institute for helping her dysphasia, at the local health place lately because she is right now extremely depressed and suicidal. One of the reason being that those children days are extremely stressful, having to put in at least 4 times as much efforts as anyone else to learn, to talk, etc.

    After 12 years of following my plan, I remain only with her being depressed, so this summer we are taking a brake and travelling to Europe. How come I can? Because from a prognostic of light autism and severe dysphasia, plus ADD, I ended up with a kid basically normal, only a few remnants of dysphasia.

    She is now 16, will be in the 11th grade high school next year, succeeds with As and Bs, and the special ed school for learning disable but normal intelligence is directing her curriculum so that she will be able to go to college.

    For a kid who could not speak, for which I had private singing lessons given starting at 8, giving the mandate to the singing teacher to make her speak, she felt in love with music and is now writing her own songs, her own music and she sings. She was in one of the biggest competition last may on television. She is now asked as a speaker on dysphasia and learning disabilities for future teachers in universities.

    For you Tesla here you find her song she competed with




    And p i ss o ff The truth is in there, I have no patience for such people any more.

    Forgot to say: she is also completely bilingual, which is never seen in dysphasic children. I am sooooo proud of her, that kid has worked about 10 times more than others to reach this state of being. It makes her a very persistent, hard worker, dedicated person, and very sensitive to others too.

    And yes, now that she is better, I cracked and went down, but I am not coming back from depression and I would do what I did for her 100 times over again, it was that much worthwile. We do have a great time together.

    This is learning unconditional love truth, I do not think you can ever understand this. Her mission may be to teach love.

    Thank you Flash
    She is beautiful and so is her song! You an amazing warrior mother ! I also have a son who is fighting to get back to normal from his Asperger's illnesses. It has been a struggle for many years but he is getting better little by little everyday. I am discovering more and more new information about his form of autism that has helped me to help him. I understand what you have been going through. I have cracked, too. But I also know from experience that you must also take care of yourself

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    i agree, this is the planet of the apes.
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    Can someone do something about this troll in our thread?

    Quote reading the things you write one might think you were there when in fact they're just the lies and propaganda you have been fed with, that have been exposed as such by revisionists, many of whom were sent to jail by the "authorities" or attacked by militant extremists for speaking the truth and proving that the official history is nothing but a gigantic lie. if they're just different opinions, why outlaw them unless the "authorities" have something to hide?
    You think that the Nazis did not kill all those Jews and dissenters?
    The USA is nothing like that. Show me the camps, show me the ovens and the smokestacks -- until then you are just waving a dead man's banner.

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    You think that the Nazis did not kill all those Jews and dissenters?
    The USA is nothing like that. Show me the camps, show me the ovens and the smokestacks -- until then you are just waving a dead man's banner.
    i know what they did and did not do because unlike you, i've studied both pro and con and i believe in proven facts, not in grand fairy tales.

    i'm sorry if you think that the multi-cultural crowd that's called americans is morally superior to the german people. it is a delusion but it's understandable because you were probably told since you were a child that americans are great, that multi-culturalism is wonderful, that the jews are god's chosen people and of course that the germans are monsters. what's not understandable is that you accept what you are told as facts without questioning them or listening to those people who have different "opinions".

    anyway, i see you are not interested in the truth, only in defending your opinion (which is based 100% on lies and propaganda). i could as well have talked to a wall.

    the sad thing is that most people are like you, which is the reason why humanity is so easy to control and lives in a global zionist slave labour camp.

    i would have thought people who are interested in conspiracy "theories" would be ready to question other things as well, like what's sold to them as "history". never mind, though. i'm not going to waste more time on this thread. believe what you want..or rather, what "they" want you to believe. it's not the right way but definitely the easy one.
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    this is a thread on autism, not on eugenism nor the last WW, nor nazis or jews, just a thread on autism and solutions.

    The supposedly Truth, you have been hijacking this thread for you own purpose, you have shown a total lack of empathy for mothers here who are searching for solutions telling them their kids should not have been created and if so should go through some form of eugenism, reallly...

    As far as I am concerned, take your mental masturbation on what should and should not about crippled elsewhere and stop disrupting this thread.

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    Can someone do something about this troll in our thread?
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    i know what they did and did not do because unlike you, i've studied both pro and con and i believe in proven facts, not in grand fairy tales.
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    As far as I am concerned, take your mental masturbation on what should and should not about crippled elsewhere and stop disrupting this thread.
    So far as I can tell:
    • There is a genuine controversy regarding the topic that Tesla_WTC_Solution and The Truth Is In There are discussing.
    • This is genuinely not the forum to be tossing such labels as troll, believer of fairy tales, or mental masturbation at others.
    • This is genuinely not the thread to be discussing the topic that Tesla_WTC_Solution and The Truth Is In There are discussing.
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