The Secret Of The Soul - and OBE

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by Deneon (here)
I have never been afraid of not finding my body should I ever succeed going out-of-body, nor do I worry about it. I do always wonder when I hear someone say (as Jake just did) "you will always find your way back to your body":

If there would be people who did not get back to their bodies after an OBE, they wouldn't be able to tell us about it, would they?

ccccccccccccccccc. Deneon, my friend, you can't lose it, you are connected to it Spiritually. ccc. And you cannot be harmed. You are an Immortal Spirit, of the Highest order. The only thing "above" you, is your High Self/Source. I write it that way, (HS/Source) because your HS, "IS" Source. When we go into the Astral Realms, everything is below us, even the Angels. AND... nothing in the Astral, will tell you this. It's one of the "Rules". It is entirely up to us, to figure out "who, and what, we really are". HS won't even tell you.

Nothing is offered, but everything is given. hmm. ccc.

[Arak]

I have been trying to get OBE for few weeks now, not like daily, but like once a week or so. Two times I have nearly succeeded after going to deep meditation. But I somehow seem to be attached from my forehead / 3rd. Eye. Have had very floating and etheral body sensations, but my head wont release grip. I wonder why?

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by Arak (here)
I have been trying to get OBE for few weeks now, not like daily, but like once a week or so. Two times I have nearly succeeded after going to deep meditation. But I somehow seem to be attached from my forehead / 3rd. Eye. Have had very floating and etheral body sensations, but my head wont release grip. I wonder why?

Maybe ya otta just try sittin up. ccc.

Haven't had this problem myself, but have read of others, with similar issues. Place your "Intention", on "thinking" sitting up. Don't try to sit up physically, but just think, sit up. Think , about breaking free. Then when you do, just sit up, swing a leg over and just get up, like you would do when physically awake, and stand up. Walk around the room, come back and look at your body still lyin there sleeping peacefully, and then give the "strong Command", "I GO NOW, TO MY HIGH SELF!"

And remember, to keep your "Intention", on going all the way. Don't stop half way there in confussion, wondering where you are going. You are going to your High Self, no matter what your HS could decide to "drag" you through on the way, according to your personality and what your HS feels you can put up with, in getting there. ccc. If yours is as mischievous as mine, you could get quite a ride, before getting there. ccc

[Arak]

Thanks for the reply! I will try that, sounds legit way to proceed!

[risveglio]

While waiting for the book, I attempted (better word?) this last night using the advice of children in one of these threads. Not being very successful at meditating, I thought a child's advice would be best to follow. I took the advice of being on a roller coaster and all the noise around me did seem to silence and I felt like I was shaking a little. A dot of light showed up in the darkness of my closed eyes and it started to get a little bigger but that is the last thing I remember. If nothing else it did seem to put me to sleep.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by risveglio (here)
While waiting for the book, I attempted (better word?) this last night using the advice of children in one of these threads. Not being very successful at meditating, I thought a child's advice would be best to follow. I took the advice of being on a roller coaster and all the noise around me did seem to silence and I felt like I was shaking a little. A dot of light showed up in the darkness of my closed eyes and it started to get a little bigger but that is the last thing I remember. If nothing else it did seem to put me to sleep.

Going as a small child knowing nothing... will, get you there. ccc.

[soleil]

hey dippitydo,

i'm on the verge of not remembering parts of my dream last night. in essence, i realized to myself that i can float around in my dream. i just realized that i COULD float, if i wanted to. then in that moment i was quite lucid, i was saying "look at me, look at me, i can float!" to my fiance who was just unfazed.

it was really neat like i was one big even circle. i think i even felt being mass-less. just remember that, i recall how cool it was that i just could make it happen. so this happened twice, lucid then floating, then losing it, then lucid again to float then i lost it.

[sirdipswitch]

Yea!!!! Tara!!! sounds like an HS test for you. cc. sure you wasn't OB? Did you try lookin for your body, still lyin where you left it?cc. keep at it and try thinkin, I'm now out of my body... while yer floatin around out there. cc. But even lucid flyin's fun to do. yep, been ther too. cc.

Love Ya girl... hang in there, you'll get it !!!!!!!! cc.

dippity cc.

[soleil]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Yea!!!! Tara!!! sounds like an HS test for you. cc. sure you wasn't OB? Did you try lookin for your body, still lyin where you left it?cc. keep at it and try thinkin, I'm now out of my body... while yer floatin around out there. cc. But even lucid flyin's fun to do. yep, been ther too. cc.

Love Ya girl... hang in there, you'll get it !!!!!!!! cc.

dippity cc.

well aside from having a mouth like a newborn baby, before this happened, my toothless face was all i saw. but then when i was floating, i suppose i didnt look at myself per se, but i felt like a huge airy balloon. i suppose as i was so involved in floating i couldnt maintain my awareness.

im happy that at least i'm gaining the XP points :D

welcome to FLOAT school!!! jkjkjkj

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Last night I had an uncomfortable dream about a lady who works for the local federal spy center. She had coils of wire extending from both hands. Is that a translation for being wired? Until I get consciously connected to HS and become powerful enough to bi-locate and transport men in a black utility vehicle to distant places as Sirdipswitch has described, maybe I better be careful with my non-mainstream thoughts and words while in her presence.

In the previous night's dream, I was in a hot air balloon floating out to sea at a high altitude. OBE? Wish I knew.

In another dream I was returning to the high school parking lot, at night, looking for my vehicle. This time I found it. OBE? Wish I knew.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
My take on being prepared, is being able to grab all that I need to survive, in my left hand, a good knife in my right hand, and runnin like H-ll. chuckle chuckle.

Hi Sirdipswitch, It seems as if I have a never ending supply of questions. But you know what they say, "The truth is never hurt by shinning more light on it."

If you were not joking with us, why would you need to "grab all that I need to survive, in my left hand, a good knife in my right hand, and [be] runnin like H-ll."

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Just imagine... can you imagine? Returning to Spirit??!! Stepping back into your Immortal Spirit Self, and retaining your Human Physical Body... and being able to manifest any "thing" or "Condition", that your little ol heart desires. Being able to jump instantly to anyplace you wish, no matter how far... being able to know what your Boss and co-worker think about you and being able to become anyway you need to be, to get that advancement and raise in salery that you are striving for. Being able to finally control your circumstances in any manor you need.

Now that you are strongly connected to your "Immortal Spirit Self", you are now able to "retaining your Human Physical Body... and being able to manifest any "thing" or "Condition", that your little ol heart desires. Being able to jump instantly to anyplace you wish, no matter how far... being able to know what your Boss and co-worker think about you and being able to become anyway you need to be, to get that advancement and raise in salery that you are striving for. Being able to finally control your circumstances in any manor you need". Then, why would you would need to take anything with you to survive. Just "manifest any "thing" or "Condition", that your little ol heart desires."? Maybe you were joking?

Understanding things related to developing a conscious, clear two way communication with HS are very important to many of us. Sometimes we may not understand a joke.

Have I misunderstood your posts?

And another thought just occurred to me. In your first post, after grabbing your knife you would be "runnin like H-ll."? Why would you, a powerful person who has transported men in a black SUV to a remote dessert location (link to your post) ever have a need to run from anything?

In an older post, I think I remember you saying that you have sent Reptilians running away from you (link to post). Did you really do that?

I'll look for those posts again to help limit the confusion.

Respectfully (and confused) Ron

[sirdipswitch]

You needn't feel too bad Ron, cuz nobody else on this forum seems to understand me any better than you. ccc.

Have I misunderstood your posts?

Uhhh! Ya might be onta sompin with that one... ccc.

Cuz it seems I did make note of it earlier.. cc
Not your memory that's failing... but understanding.. cc.

Do you member what these mean? ccc. These are little chuckles, which mean it was writen in good humor, (My take on being prepared, is being able to grab all that I need to survive, in my left hand, a good knife in my right hand, and runnin like H-ll. chuckle chuckle. Seems you forgot the rest of that sentance, and my chuckles, that added a little Humor that you seem to have overlooked) and not tryin to be over bearing about it or somethin. I not an ol meanie. I really am full of good Humor and light heartedness. (Which your quote of me was intended as.) I just happen to write and talk in a manor that will rattle your cage and make you think, and "Reason", for your self, on ALL that you do.

Just as you say... as an all powerfull Immortal Spirit Being, again, why would I need to run from ANYTHING? I don't!

And that ain't no joke...

[sirdipswitch]

Not to worry though, you will progress, as your HS allows. cc.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
You needn't feel too bad Ron, cuz nobody else on this forum seems to understand me any better than you. ccc.

Have I misunderstood your posts?

Uhhh! Ya might be onta sompin with that one... ccc.

Cuz it seems I did make note of it earlier.. cc
Not your memory that's failing... but understanding.. cc.

Do you member what these mean? ccc. These are little chuckles, which mean it was writen in good humor, (My take on being prepared, is being able to grab all that I need to survive, in my left hand, a good knife in my right hand, and runnin like H-ll. chuckle chuckle. Seems you forgot the rest of that sentance, and my chuckles, that added a little Humor that you seem to have overlooked) and not tryin to be over bearing about it or somethin. I not an ol meanie. I really am full of good Humor and light heartedness. (Which your quote of me was intended as.) I just happen to write and talk in a manor that will rattle your cage and make you think, and "Reason", for your self, on ALL that you do.

Just as you say... as an all powerfull Immortal Spirit Being, again, why would I need to run from ANYTHING? I don't!

And that ain't no joke...

Maybe I'm catching on Sirdipswitch. Maybe when you use chuckles "ccc" it means that you are "full of good Humor and light heartedness" and your intention is to "rattle your cage and make you think, and "Reason", for your self, on ALL that you do." Thinking/intuiting for ourselves is a good idea, a great idea I think, applicable to all that one does.

So when you use "ccc", does that mean that your intention is to convey "good Humor and light heartedness" instead of offering a literal translation of your beliefs?

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Not to worry though, you will progress, as your HS allows. cc.

You might be right about HS allowing (or not) progression. I often wonder about that very thing. If HS and little ol' me had opportunity for a two way chat, we might end up in a big argument about how much progress should be allowed. But I accept full responsibility for all that I do (or don't do), trusting my intuition (right or wrong) along the way, shining as much light on the path as best I can.

[sirdipswitch]

You might be right about HS allowing (or not) progression. I often wonder about that very thing. If HS and little 'ol me had opportunity for a two way chat, we might end up in a big argument about how much progress should be allowed. But I accept full responsibility for all that I do (or don't do), trusting my intuition (right or wrong) along the way, shining as much light on the path as best I can.

Argue? With Source? With your HS? HS/Source?

You know better than HS/Source, what should be "allowed"??

Trusting Intuition... (right or wrong????) You mean to say that you think your Intuition, (HS) could be wrong??? Why? Because IT's not giving you the answers that YOU want?

How can you trust in what I, or anyone else for that matter, say, if you don't even "Trust" your very own Intuition/HS/Source?

Perhaps learning to "Trust" your own heart, would be a good place to start.

Without Trusting ones own heart, one will never Trust anyone. hmm. (ok, what does the hmm, mean? It means this is something for you to think about.)

Here's a bit more for you to think about, that you may have missed, is that when I got serious about getting out of body and going to my High Self, I dumped everything that I thought I knew, and went as a small child knowing nothing. AND, I turned off my computer for a month, so that I would not be "Influenced" by outside sources, durring that time. When I did get OB, I left it off for another month, so that it was only my HS/Source that I was recieving "Instruction" from!!!


Getting serious about this... means just that... anything less, and one is just fooling theirself.

But then one cannot really fool theirself, because their "Self", knows them, and will decide when to "Let" them go OB, or Commune with IT.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Argue? With Source? With your HS? HS/Source?

I would not be surprised if there exists some entities who possess the abilities and skills to manipulate human beings’ perceptions, senses, and emotions. An imposter might be very upset by challenging questions and arguments made by little ol' me, but I expect the real HS to respond with patience, love and understanding.

When I am able to establish a two way conversation with HS, the development of trust might be a slow process, supported by both rational and intuitive confirmation. That thinking is probably just the influence of having a Scorpio rising sign and having 5 planets in Libra. But for better or worse, it is me.

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Trusting Intuition... (right or wrong????) You mean to say that you think your Intuition, (HS) could be wrong??? Why? Because IT's not giving you the answers that YOU want?

How can you trust in what I, or anyone else for that matter, say, if you don't even "Trust" your very own Intuition/HS/Source?

Perhaps learning to "Trust" your own heart, would be a good place to start.

Without Trusting ones own heart, one will never Trust anyone. hmm. (ok, what does the hmm, mean? It means this is something for you to think about.)

I'm sure all of us have discovered that, on occasion, our intuition has been wrong. Same goes for the rational mind.

When the rational mind and intuitive mind are in agreement, there is balance, and one is now in a place best for trust and right action. Anything else is like trying to advance walking on only one leg.

I do pay attention to both rational and intuitive information. That is the best I can do.

Trust is important. I am being reminded of the immortal words spoken by John Ward, my old boss, "Trust your fellow man, but always check up on him ."

Sometime farther down the road of this adventure, I fully expect to have a big group laugh about all of these issues, with HS rolling on the floor laughing its off.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by rmauersr (here)

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Argue? With Source? With your HS? HS/Source?

I would not be surprised if there exists some entities who possess the abilities and skills to manipulate human beings’ perceptions, senses, and emotions. An imposter might be very upset by challenging questions and arguments made by little ol' me, but I expect the real HS to respond with patience, love and understanding.

When I am able to establish a two way conversation with HS, the development of trust might be a slow process, supported by both rational and intuitive confirmation. That thinking is probably just the influence of having a Scorpio rising sign and having 5 planets in Libra. But for better or worse, it is me.

Posted by sirdipswitch (here)
Trusting Intuition... (right or wrong????) You mean to say that you think your Intuition, (HS) could be wrong??? Why? Because IT's not giving you the answers that YOU want?

How can you trust in what I, or anyone else for that matter, say, if you don't even "Trust" your very own Intuition/HS/Source?

Perhaps learning to "Trust" your own heart, would be a good place to start.

Without Trusting ones own heart, one will never Trust anyone. hmm. (ok, what does the hmm, mean? It means this is something for you to think about.)

I'm sure all of us have discovered that, on occasion, our intuition has been wrong. Same goes for the rational mind.

When the rational mind and intuitive mind are in agreement, there is balance, and one is now in a place best for trust and right action. Anything else is like trying to advance walking on only one leg.

I do pay attention to both rational and intuitive information. That is the best I can do.

Trust is important. I am being reminded of the immortal words spoken by John Ward, my old boss, "Trust your fellow man, but always check up on him ."

Sometime farther down the road of this adventure, I fully expect to have a big group laugh about all of these issues, with HS rolling on the floor laughing its off.

Excellent my friend, very well said.

[risveglio]

Two of William Buhlman's books received. Hopefully I will have my own experience to share in a couple weeks.

[sirdipswitch]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Two of William Buhlman's books received. Hopefully I will have my own experience to share in a couple weeks.

Excellent risveglio, hope you enjoy the ride. cc.

One of the things that I really enjoyed about the way Buhlman writes, is that he writes a lot like I do, and doesn't elaborate on much. He may just touch lightly on something and then just go right on with something else. But, that doesn't mean that it isn't improtant. Every single little thing that he touches on, is extremely important. Also is the fact that he was a complete newbie, about astral projection, and had to "figure" stuff out for himself. And, he did not have a forum like this, where he could go ask experienced projectors, about how to do it. Just himself, alone with his own thinking.

You, on the other hand, have an absolute gold mine, of information, on astral projection, at your fingertips.

[sirdipswitch]

UPDATE, Black SUV time again (3:00pm). ccc.

These guys were actually nice.cc. No suits, street clothes that I would wear. cc. Only one got out and came to my door.

He asked: "Are you messing with our "satalite?" I put on a happy little twinkle face for him and said: "Which one?" ccc.

He did one of those rock back on yer heels wide eyed looks, and then quickly regaining composure, said Thank You, and they left. ccc.

Gotta keepem off ballance!! ccc.