Backlash Against Airport Body Scans!

[grannyfranny100]

Guess what, the county for the San Fran airport is sending police to oversee the security goons. The action was initiated by deputy attorney general who will be attorney general come January. Sorry I don't have names or exact titles but other airport jurisdictions are following this action. Hooray!!!

Granny Franny

[Ahkenaten]

Is that supposed to be comforting? Why not just sent BART police over. (sorry)

[Ahkenaten]

Speaking of old folks in wheel chairs last month I was at the dentist's and the receptionist on steroids informed a bewildered-looking old person in a wheel chair that they MUST submit to having their photograph taken and they MUST show positive ID based on California Law! She said that in the presence of the wrong person.....me. I said "Based on WHAT CA law? I don't think so. You have no right to be intimidating this client. Nor should they have to show ID - dental records are used to orensically identify bodies in cases where the identity of a body is unknown....therefor your office has MORE than enough personally-identifying information on hand on all your clients anyway." I went further and informed the woman that if she liked intimidating people she might consider applying for a job at the County Jail.

[Fredkc]

For about 15 years, I labored under the delusion that the answer societies ills lie in "proper government". I debated, and wrote quite a bit on it. Every once in a while people's prattling and foolishness backs up on me, and I am moved to do it "just this one very last time" (no fool like an ol'fool, eh?).

Well, I got suckered again. I still visit my old haunts, looking for tidbits and news. This time was the subject of TSA screening, and tyranny. Since I am low on posts for the day, here, I'm going to copy it here:

If, in the name protesting this budding police state and defending your rights and freedoms, you won't even put up with the "disruption" to your life that "not flying" in protest generates, do not try to convince me that you would fight to stop tyranny from taking over this nation. There was never any citizen "militia" that didn't cost it's members any "skin" in serving.

The plain fact is, there is no "tyrant" at work here. No tyrant can possibly do this. There aren't enough politicians, bureaucrats, soldiers, cops, and garbage men in the country to stop what the people insist take place. There is nothing you can threaten people with that will make them give up everything. This mass submission must be out of consent rather than simply out of fear.

In short, 'we the people' are willing to settle for this. Every single one of us who will settle for 10 pounds of crap, for every piece of candy, will have it gleefully delivered to our door.

A man named Étienne de La Boétie wrote about this back in 1530. Sound thinking knows no time. He tried to explain why people put up with this crap, when they know it's wrong.

La Boétie delves especially deeply into its nature, and into the nature of State rule itself. This fundamental insight was that every tyranny must necessarily be grounded upon general popular acceptance. In short, the bulk of the people themselves, for whatever reason, acquiesce in their own subjection.

If this were not the case, no tyranny, indeed no governmental rule, could long endure. Hence, a government does not have to be popularly elected to enjoy general public support; for general public support is in the very nature of all governments that endure, including the most oppressive of tyrannies. The tyrant is but one person, and could scarcely command the obedience of another person, much less of an entire country, if most of the subjects did not grant their obedience by their own consent.

I should like merely to understand how it happens that so many men, so many villages, so many cities, so many nations, sometimes suffer under a single tyrant who has no other power than the power they give him; who is able to harm them only to the extent to which they have the willingness to bear with him; who could do them absolutely no injury unless they preferred to put up with him rather than contradict him. Surely a striking situation! Yet it is so common that one must grieve the more and wonder the less at the spectacle of a million men serving in wretchedness...

Shall we call subjection to such a leader cowardice? ... If a hundred, if a thousand endure the caprice of a single man, should we not rather say that they lack not the courage but the desire to rise against him, and that such an attitude indicates indifference rather than cowardice? When not a hundred, not a thousand men, but a hundred provinces, a thousand cities, a million men, refuse to assail a single man from whom the kindest treatment received is the infliction of serfdom and slavery, what shall we call that? Is it cowardice? ...

When a thousand, a million men, a thousand cities, fail to protect themselves against the domination of one man, this cannot be called cowardly, for cowardice does not sink to such a depth... What monstrous vice, then, is this which does not even deserve to be called cowardice, a vice for which no term can be found vile enough

It is evident from the above passages that La Boétie is bitterly opposed to tyranny and to the public's consent to its own subjection. He makes clear also that this opposition is grounded on a theory of natural law and a natural right to liberty.
... more of this good sanity available here.

And there is the rub!
Everybody mistakenly looks to government to secure them their liberty. Or even worse, their safety. They think that "their government" will do this, it's just the "other guy's government" that's screwing it up. Bush, Obama, Clinton, whoever it's the same government! Pretending there is a difference just gets us more of the same.

Government is not about securing a damned thing for you, me, anyone! Government is about milking everyone to death, until it is either brought to it's senses, or toppled.

We have the government we have because we settled for it. Hell we even cheer for it, every other 8 years. But the last 40 years have seen us settle like none of our forefathers, and this will surely be our end.

The illusion of parties, is nothing but divide and conquer, foisted on our children. The delusion that Islam is our enemy just makes it easier.

Perhaps I am this way because I don't have much left to lose. I have busted my butt since I was 18, and within 60 days I will be in exactly the same position Dennis our host, is (Jobless, no longer eligible for Unemployment, and homeless). It's looking like my daughter will inherit most of my possessions many years before my death.

But if I can't leave this place knowing my grandchildren are not as free, or more so, than the day I was born, it will all seem like a waste of time.

"It is said that every generation..." Well, this is our time. And it isn't about muslims, or Bush, or Obama. The choice is whether:
We as a people are sorta-happy, safe, and kept like farm animals. Or
We are free first, free last, and whether that is in poverty or prosperity, the devil take the hindmost.
Fred

[Sarahmay]

This is getting LOTS of coverage on MSM (surprisingly), but interestingly, on Huffington Post it is buried. George Soros no likey?

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I plan to fly over Thanksgiving. I have already decided to wear my skimpiest thong underwear and a lace bra. I plan to wear a pullover dress and slip it over my head at security. Not sure about the writing part - any good ideas about what to say?
This whole thing is so ridiculous, only humor will really cut through all the pseudo seriousness.... Will they do a "pat down"? we shall see.

[Ahkenaten]

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[HURRITT ENYETO]

Posted by ahamkara (here)
I plan to fly over Thanksgiving. I have already decided to wear my skimpiest thong underwear and a lace bra. I plan to wear a pullover dress and slip it over my head at security. Not sure about the writing part - any good ideas about what to say?
This whole thing is so ridiculous, only humor will really cut through all the pseudo seriousness.... Will they do a "pat down"? we shall see.

Can you film it for us purely for political reasons of course, uh hum.
Just kiddin

[truthseekerdan]

Bush gets 'pat-down' by security on Jay Leno Show.

[onawah]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RhkQoiaf7Uc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5EqV2Rmkqaw

[Teakai]

Posted by ahamkara (here)
I plan to fly over Thanksgiving. I have already decided to wear my skimpiest thong underwear and a lace bra. I plan to wear a pullover dress and slip it over my head at security. Not sure about the writing part - any good ideas about what to say?
This whole thing is so ridiculous, only humor will really cut through all the pseudo seriousness.... Will they do a "pat down"? we shall see.

You want to hope it's not like this one, Ahamkara:
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/a...-1225955026206

Lonely? Fly USA and get felt up good.

[Teakai]

Posted by Ahkenaten (here)
Now that takes some guts, girl! You rock! It is ridiculous, I just hope some weirdos don't get their hands on you or that you end up being tasered by some Christian fundamentalist TSA worker who thinks you are doing the work of Satan and that, of course is very dangerous to national security! Good luck!

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA.
Sorry, I had a vision.

That's sooo not hot. (to be said Paris Hilton style)
LOL

Tasering should only be done to people wearing jeans - especially by fundamentalist Christians.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I do plan to have my partner filming. I think most agents are not comfortable with this procedure. Stripping down is rather like the lunch counter sit-in protests in the South during the 60's. The idea is to make everyone so uncomfortable that the question of what is being done is no longer avoidable. there is also the subtext of subtle groping when people are fully clothed. If you are in your underwear, it's pretty obvious what is or isnt there. This is a conscious attempt to humiliate and create docility in the population. It also takes advantage of most American's acute discomfort with their own bodies (not as common in Europe, as anyone who has ever been to a public beach there notices). I am quite serious in my humor!

[Teakai]

I'm absolutely totally on your side Ahamkara and I say bravo to you for doing it.

Make sure you let us know how it all goes.

Even if you get tasered.
Especially if you get tasered. (Especially by a fundamentalist Christian TSA worker)
:D

[onawah]

More here on this issue:
http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/A...tyRapeGate.htm

[Snowbird]

My absolute favorite: Thoroughly Screwing America


44 Ways to Say TSA: What do the initials "TSA" really stand for?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zaSoMVFfxfA

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zaSoM...layer_embedded



Welcome, Testicle Searchers of America

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2010/11/19-2

[Teakai]

Getting jiggy with the TSA:

Don't touch my junk - the musical.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QhEMRSp7vaY

[truthman]

Awesome video! It made my day. This video needs to be seen by everyone.

[Swami]

Cancer surviving flight attendant forced to remove prosthetic breast during pat-down

She says two female Charlotte T.S.A. agents took her to a private room and began what she calls an aggressive pat down. She says they stopped when they got around to feeling her right breast… the one where she'd had surgery.

"She put her full hand on my breast and said, 'What is this?'. And I said, 'It's my prosthesis because I've had breast cancer.' And she said, 'Well, you'll need to show me that'."

Cathy was asked to show her prosthetic breast, removing it from her bra.

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13534628

[xbusymom]

Posted by kinsuemei2 (here)
Ok, again the reason why I say mass sterilization is the fact that if you have a very large person and you put them in this machine you can still see through then with the power of this X-Ray machine, now rule of thumb is you change the amount of radiation per amount of body fat right? well this machine seems to have a standard and this “Could” be a massive sterilization process to halt the ever expanding society, because I have never met a TSA worker that was also a radiologist.

Pregnant women, this is extremely harmful for, and I don’t recall them putting a lead coat over the family jewels in these machine's and that’s why I am figuring sterilization and I think this is a big topic and one that seriously needs addressing, because this is a stone’s throw away from naked walks to gas/shower houses in my honest opinion.

I for one don't operate my microwave oven with the door open, so why I would walk through one of these machines without leading up either. I know a quite a few radiologists that are asking a lot of real questions such as why is nobody worried that these machines are putting out background radiation of 16 mSv, in a one walk through, that’s actually a 5 year dose, and some of the Radiologists are very alarmed. For pregnant women that can still fly, background radiation, is a worry, whilst women are not in immediate danger of the natural amounts of radiation build up in the abdomen over time, these extra doses can causes issues to the development of the fetus a lot more earlier on than later.

Here is a solution... get a geiger counter radiation detector... only $45...

http://store.colemans.com/cart/gamma...l?currency=USD

then you bring along with you to the airport notarized copies of Sovereign Notice of Understanding and Intent, and your Claim of Right that you have previously submitted to your local jurisdiction agency, and insist on verifying the safeness of the scanner (making sure of the test results several times) before you actually go through the machine...

or you monopolizing more than one security agents' time (preferably 3 or more) by insisting on having them re-inform and EXPLAIN to you the details of the procedure as well as the legal definitions of said document.. etc...