Hollow Earth?

[ghostrider]

If you built a basement under your house , is your house hollow ??? I've dug a few holes, there are caverns, underground springs, rocks, sand, so I think there is something taking up the space some consider to be empty or hollow ...

[Tesseract]

Everyone from rocket scientists to the morbidly obese knows intimately the despairs of gravity. These realities couldn't be accounted for without the mass of the Earth as it is, which likewise can not be credibly accounted for with a substantially hollow planet.

[Ultima Thule]

I've at times also considered this story and one thing that(for me) speaks against the hollow earth hypothesis is a finnish parachute guild expedition(not a secret society, normal Finnish dudes that went into army as paratrooper. Everybody goes into army here) to north pole in 2006. Their website is at www.pohjoisnapa.fi with documents and diary of their journey.
Finnish people are so straightforward(boring and uneventful) that if they found a hole instead of a pole, I'm sure we would know about it.

UT
Ps. And yeah, that beginning post of yours Mike is a classic - Avalon hall of fame-stuff

[161803398]

All I know about it is when I saw a video of some UFOs flying from space to earth they exactly reminded me of a wasp that had mapped out my kitchen and knew where it was going when it flew to the home it had inside my cupboard. I can't get that out of my mind. Whenever that happens, there's something in it. I like wasps.

However, I had always thought that they, the beings inside the UFOS, live here.

[DNA]

Posted by lakewatcher (here)
Here's my two cents on this subject:

For many years I was always put off by the hollow earth theory. It just violated too much of what I thought I knew about the geology and physics of the earth. And no, I'm no expert on those subjects by any means. Anyway the theory didn't sit right with me. Then something happened a couple years ago to make me reconsider the issue. I read about alien bases that were inside mountains. These bases were not inside the mountains in the sense of the mountain being physically hollowed out to make room for the base, these bases were inside the mountains in a parallel physical reality that was "quantum phase shifted" from that of the physical interior of the mountain, which remained intact. In other words, the mountain and the base occupied the same 3D space at the same time, but didn't interfere with each other because the phase shifting allowed them to occupy different physical realities simultaneously.

Well, this made me rethink the hollow earth issue. The alien bases were accessed by means of quantum portals that they could open up at will, to enter the reality of their base inside the mountain with their ships. Those quantum portals sounded a lot like the purported portals at the poles of the planet that people reported seeing sometimes, and that a few occasionally entered, at least briefly.

The possibility of a quantum phase shifted hollow interior for the earth, or the other planets for that matter, seems to me to be a completely different matter than the old argument of physically solid earth vs. physically hollow earth.

Of course, I don't know the actual truth of the matter, but this possibility might help explain the various civilian and military reports of flying vessels emerging from the interior of the earth at the poles?

Lakewatcher
Dude,,,,
Bro,,,,,
Brosky,,,
Okay for real, I feel you on this.
I couldn't help but to think of that scene in Buckaroo Bonazai
Where he drives his car into the side of a mountain while using technology on his car to move into the 8th dimension.
Too weird, when I went to go look for this scene I found the whole movie, the scene I'm referencing is the very beginning of the movie, like five minutes long.
It's kind of a good movie for how old it is.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v2axIy9KExY

[Atlas]

Edmond Halley in 1692 put forth the idea of Earth consisting of a hollow shell about 800 km (500 mi) thick, two inner concentric shells and an innermost core, about the diameters of the planets Venus, Mars, and Mercury.

Halley, Edmond, An Account of the cause of the Change of the Variation of the Magnetic Needle; with an Hypothesis of the Structure of the Internal Parts of the Earth, 1692, pp 563–578 :

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The nonexistence of two of Halley's four magnetic poles was demonstrated in 1817, when the first complete chart of magnetic meridians appeared: Sydney Chapman, "Edmond Halley and geomagnetism", Nature, clii (1943), 231-7.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Ultima Thule (here)
Finnish people are so straightforward (boring and uneventful) that if they found a hole instead of a pole, I'm sure we would know about it.

Playing devil's advocate here maybe some people can see it and some can't. What's an ocean view for one is a portal for another. Bermuda Triangle is another example. It’s there even though we don’t fully understand. (Or are lead to believe.)

We see and hear of the challenges to get to the North Pole. No doubt true. But that’s what they want us to see and believe through photos of their harsh travels and diary accounts from ordinary folks trying to discover the truth without the needed support.

For me, the Hollow Earth is no different than someone that says we are the only people in the Universe. Ordinary folks don’t know how to travel there. But I’d not rule out portals, bi-location, or high tech travel that we aren’t privy too.

It’s strange how we travel to the moon and beyond, but are unable to discover the inner Earth. Or is that’s the fairytale they feed us?

[Sunny-side-up]

I first just want to say to you Chinaski thank you from my Heart for this post of yours, all very interesting and it has connected in a indirect way to many experiences I've had and now will follow up on.

Thank you onawah for embedding the 'Plasma Beings' vid, This has connected many inner and outer experiences for me.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oZsJrY1aW3g

In this vid near the end Mr Drunvalo says we soon will become beings that can live on and actually chose the time we die and or point when we want to move on to the next level/reality.
Now Mr Drunvelo's words have (indirectly) had a deep connection for me to a Deep Breathing Meditation

(Which I've had a few words in PM's with a 2 of members here, where we came to the conclusion that it possibly would be to dangerous to fellow members for me to post/mention the technique I used, which I had the same conclusion of myself, before our words/convo)

I had gone through, where I within the meditation reached a place, the place where, If you get there consciously you have the choice of your next reincarnation

(depending on your ability/strength. (This place is where certain monks train to reach upon death; if at that point they hadn't reached a no need to reincarnate level of being! and so at this point they can dive along the points of higher level rebirth conciseness etc) Which they say evolves your souls being by a thousand years each time this is done.))

I have been to this place (4 times along the visual route, it can be done by a acoustic/audible route as well!) and chose not to dive, I could have and know in myself how far down/along I could have reached but chose not to, I simply came back.

The words of Mr Drunvelo in this vid where he roughly outlines the changes that are coming soon, to our Planet, to Our conciseness and dimensional level of reality, to us all, well I now know this is what my higher self knew/knows about and it is why I'm here; here to experience, I chose to stay with you guys (before I knew you all in person, as Avaolnians that is) and the rest of humanity to experience this form in a physical way and not to have leapt on bypassing it!

Mr Drunvalo's words, my experience, my Avatar all connect.

I hope all I have just written makes sense to you all.
I am going to cut and paste this to make a personal new thread/posting.

Again thx Chinaski for starting this post and it's course that lead to onawah posting the 'Plasma Beings' vid.
Thx to all other members for your in-between postings that lead to onawah posting.

That's the way it all works with one thing leading to another along this path we have chosen to follow and so in turn to help pave.

Be Calm, Relax be you.
Love and Light as always to you all, after all it's what we are and or will be. LOVE

Oh PS Toad

We could play that game all day, the truth is you cant tell me where my nose ends and space begins.

Exactly

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

What I understand to be true is, that as we perceive the 3-dimensional frequency that we occupy on the earth, it's interior from our perspective, if we were to probe beneath that earth, is solid material: a crust, a mantle of liquid rock, and a solid core - just as science claims. The crust does contain many hollowed out spaces, large enough to contain entire cities. These have been in existence for eons, and it is indeed from where many ETs operate, and even indigenous races such exiled Atlanteans who escaped there after the fall and still exist to this day.

However, in the other frequencies/vibrations that are just as ‘physical’ as this one, the interior of the planet may be quite different. I don't know. I think it's 'possible' that there is another earth-like construct, another expression of it, that is accessible via dimensional gateways located at the poles. Whether these actually lead into the planet in these other dimensions, or a completely different physical space entirely, who knows. But from where we are standing now, on the physical earth in our vibration, the material beneath us, is for the most part solid, all the way to the core. That's my belief anyway.

[Bill Ryan]

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North pole. complete with submarine which broke through the ice.

(No, it didn't get sucked down the plughole! )

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

re what Bill said above. There is no reason why there couldn't be an opening at the north pole and south pole - ie a dimensional gateway into another, parallel reality or some such, but consider that one would not normally be able see it/experience it, or enter through it, unless they were 'allowed' to do so by the 'powers greater than us' that control it. Food for thought, perhaps...

[Sunny-side-up]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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North pole. complete with submarine which broke through the ice.

(No, it didn't get sucked down the plughole! )

Thats a very cheep and bent North Pole we have ha 0.o
Next we must go there in other dimensional way..

Bill the ice there must be very thin now then

I saw a science programme few years ago which a certain Japanese scientist was scanning the earth's core somehow (sorry haven't got the facts) But the thing is he found the molten core to contain massive Diamond crystals with in it. it was like a landscape of Crystal Diamonds forming under the intense physical pressures there..

dna grate mad, way out, deep-space film

https://youtube.com/watch?v=v2axIy9KExY
thx very interesting.

[RunningDeer]

I fight back at my intense impatience.

Continuing here...the game that’s played on us and we willing partake is to continue to find concrete evidence. Hansel and Gretel bread crumbs for the brightest and bright to chew on.

Yes, it’s important to fact find. My concern is that we remember to balance our time for the discovery of our innate abilities. We do that and synchrony leads us to clues that separate the real from the unreal.

I know I’m not saying anything that we don’t already know. We are on the threshold of a rare opportunity for a complete change up. Just a bit more power-up from our bodies and we, the All, move Everyone to there.

Where’s there? Where duality is squeezed enough to knock out the lower aspects that anchor us; be it our false beliefs, or the dark ones.

Note to self: stop defining how others find their way.

Stepping out here. Apologies for the projection. Though, will continue to follow you All.

[toad]

Posted by lakewatcher (here)
Here's my two cents on this subject:

For many years I was always put off by the hollow earth theory. It just violated too much of what I thought I knew about the geology and physics of the earth. And no, I'm no expert on those subjects by any means. Anyway the theory didn't sit right with me. Then something happened a couple years ago to make me reconsider the issue. I read about alien bases that were inside mountains. These bases were not inside the mountains in the sense of the mountain being physically hollowed out to make room for the base, these bases were inside the mountains in a parallel physical reality that was "quantum phase shifted" from that of the physical interior of the mountain, which remained intact. In other words, the mountain and the base occupied the same 3D space at the same time, but didn't interfere with each other because the phase shifting allowed them to occupy different physical realities simultaneously.

Well, this made me rethink the hollow earth issue. The alien bases were accessed by means of quantum portals that they could open up at will, to enter the reality of their base inside the mountain with their ships. Those quantum portals sounded a lot like the purported portals at the poles of the planet that people reported seeing sometimes, and that a few occasionally entered, at least briefly.

The possibility of a quantum phase shifted hollow interior for the earth, or the other planets for that matter, seems to me to be a completely different matter than the old argument of physically solid earth vs. physically hollow earth.

Of course, I don't know the actual truth of the matter, but this possibility might help explain the various civilian and military reports of flying vessels emerging from the interior of the earth at the poles?

I'm curious as to how a story which is most probably fiction could shake your beliefs in geology and an accepted understand of terrestrial science. How does this happen?

[lakewatcher]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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North pole. complete with submarine which broke through the ice.

(No, it didn't get sucked down the plughole! )

[snip]

Personally, I don't see how any reasonably informed person (of the physics and geology of the planet) can seriously doubt that earth is basically solid, though there may be large caverns housing cities, etc. But that conclusion only addresses the physical earth that we are familiar with, but ignores the possibilities of a parallel physical reality internal to the earth or the possibility of some kind of structured internal spiritual (ultradimensional?) reality within the planet.

I think that H. W. Percival, in his book Thinking and Destiny, is probably describing the spiritual internal planes of the planet, in the parts where he discusses the hollow earth.

And as far as the possibility of a phase shifted parallel 3D reality internal to the planet accessible through portals (stargates?) at the poles, that are only sometimes open, I would think that you would probably have encountered a great deal more data about that in your travels than I would have had the opportunity to examine. So, what, if anything, do you know about that possibility, at least that you can share?

Now I'll shut up about this issue.

[toad]

Posted by lakewatcher (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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North pole. complete with submarine which broke through the ice.

(No, it didn't get sucked down the plughole! )

[snip]

Personally, I don't see how any reasonably informed person (of the physics and geology of the planet) can seriously doubt that earth is basically solid, though there may be large caverns housing cities, etc. But that conclusion only addresses the physical earth that we are familiar with, but ignores the possibilities of a parallel physical reality internal to the earth or the possibility of some kind of structured internal spiritual (ultradimensional?) reality within the planet.

I think that H. W. Percival, in his book Thinking and Destiny, is probably describing the spiritual internal planes of the planet, in the parts where he discusses the hollow earth.

And as far as the possibility of a phase shifted parallel 3D reality internal to the planet accessible through portals (stargates?) at the poles, that are only sometimes open, I would think that you would probably have encountered a great deal more data about that in your travels than I would have had the opportunity to examine. So, what, if anything, do you know about that possibility, at least that you can share?

Now I'll shut up about this issue.

We could entertain this possibilities allllll day long.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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North pole. complete with submarine which broke through the ice.

(No, it didn't get sucked down the plughole! )

Thats a very cheep and bent North Pole we have

I looked to see if it was the 'real' one. This pole is slightly different, but maybe the red-on-white spiral is a visitors' tradition!

This is from the American Red Cross (so it's not a military conspiracy ) :





If we're starting to talk about things which "only some people have permission to see", the entire conversation spirals off into fantasy. The pink elephant in my room is real, but no-one else has permission to see it except me!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
If we're starting to talk about things which "only some people have permission to see", the entire conversation spirals off into fantasy. The pink elephant in my room is real, but no-one else has permission to see it except me!

UFOs are not fantasy though, surely you agree with that Bill, right? These craft operate in our atmosphere all the time, monitoring, doing what they do. And most that time we do not see them, unless there's a very specific event planned. They are invisible to us because they exist outside of our frequency, which we cannot penetrate with our physical eyes. This is not fantasy. I do not see why it cannot be different for a kind of duck-blind effect protecting dimensional portals such as could exist at the poles (or in other places).

[lakewatcher]

Posted by toad (here)

I'm curious as to how a story which is most probably fiction could shake your beliefs in geology and an accepted understand of terrestrial science. How does this happen?

Well, an additional comment:

Didn't "shake" my beliefs in geology or physics (including the part of quantum physics that describes the consequences of phase shifting) at all. Just introduced an intriguing possibility to me that I had never considered before. That's all. Sorry, if I've not been able to make myself clear on that point.

As far as the story being "probably fiction," I'm curious about what data set you have that allows you to estimate that probability, since I don't have enough data to be able to judge whether the story is fiction or not. The story's violation of my world view, or anyone else's world view, does not per se constitute sufficient data to make that judgment in my view.

[toad]

Posted by lakewatcher (here)

Posted by toad (here)

I'm curious as to how a story which is most probably fiction could shake your beliefs in geology and an accepted understand of terrestrial science. How does this happen?

Well, an additional comment:

Didn't "shake" my beliefs in geology or physics (including the part of quantum physics that describes the consequences of phase shifting) at all. Just introduced an intriguing possibility to me that I had never considered before. That's all. Sorry, if I've not been able to make myself clear on that point.

As far as the story being "probably fiction," I'm curious about what data set you have that allows you to estimate that probability, since I don't have enough data to be able to judge whether the story is fiction or not. The story's violation of my world view, or anyone else's world view, does not per se constitute sufficient data to make that judgment in my view.

No need for apologies I was just curious. Anything is possible sure, just highly unlikely and less probable, I have no data set to inspire any reason to suggest that its more likely than not, besides some creative story.