Imploding forum and the next 25+ years of Darkness

[Christine]

I love Rumi....

Out beyond ideas of wrong-doing and right-doing,
there is a field.
I'll meet you there.

When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase
each other
doesn't make any sense.

Rumi
(Sufi Mystic 1207-1273 A.D.)

Posted by transiten (here)
Rumi is the poet that combines fire and water, action and meditation, male and female, wrath and compassion...

[christian]

Posted by blufire (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by blufire (here)

I think considering what is just around the corner

What's 'just around the corner', as best you know, believe, suspect or understand?

This is an honest-to-god, straight-as-an-arrow question. I would love to know what you think may be ahead.

Bill and All,

Your question is a highly important and urgent one.

So important that I feel strongly I need to give it appropriate time and lengthy answer. I actually have voiced my views and they are spread in various threads, but I feel a localized thread would be more prudent.

I spent way too much time on the forum Saturday and am currently way behind in several things in living a self sustained lifestyle. I will be up into the morning hours canning and freezing vegetables and fruit.

I will try to start a thread tomorrow and begin fleshing out what I now see our future to be.

blufire, that post of yours is from one month ago.

Your (non-)actions speak louder than your words.

Does it make you feel better when you say that Bill is mean to you, although he´d been very supportive of you? Even though I told him him very clearly that in my opinion you are mainly just a lot of hot air and idiocy with a lot of self-praise, he still chose to devote a good amount of his time to communicate with you and encourage you, because he saw or sees something in you that I don´t see. But I think you now just confirm my opinion with this thread here.

You claim that logic is not appreciated on the forum, I think that´s just as stupid as supporting Monsanto. Ah right, you´re doing exactly that!

This is some of what Bill said to jiminii publicly:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE apply logic and critical thinking to this kind of material. Jim, you're inadvertently relaying disinformation (partly false info) and misinformation (wholly false info) that simply confuses people and makes you look silly.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I would venture to suggest, with genuine respect, that you are being extremely naive.

I had sent a PM to you on August 2nd of 2012 after you made a post on a thread about the Galactic Federation of Light. You wrote something about how mass arrests by some white knights are a pipe dream and that we should rather do some real work. Then you went on to describe what you´re working on, so I wrote this to you:

Your efforts to create a better world are wonderful, please go on (doing it)

I made volunteering my lifestyle somehow, I'd love to visit the US one day, right now I'm also thinking about visiting Vilcabamba this year, anyways do you need any volunteers that work for food and accommodation? I'm asking, because I'm interested in working with you but if I wouldn't come around, maybe you'd find some workers by sharing information about your project on www.workaway.info, www.helpx.net or www.wwoofusa.org.

all the best
Chris

You never even answered me. Again, your (non-)actions speak louder than your words.

[Sierra]

Posted by Heartsong (here)
I would rather read the post about the contact with the aliens than read about the conflict. I can manage my response to it regardless of it's syntax.

There is no post about the alien contact. It has been promised in several (three or four threads that I've seen) places, but never delivered. Bill practically begged her to post on it at one point. He has bent over backwards and tied himself in knots, written quite a few teaching posts... blufire promises, but does not keep her word. I don't know what that is about, why she brings it up repeatedly but...

[Sunny-side-up]

You all make sense to me, I Love you all, I wan't to hear you all, I want you all to stay together!
You all make sense to me your humans, this is who we are.
I am Right Brained, I am Left Brained, I am whole Brained, I chose to be how I wan't to be at any given time, I can do that.
I CAN BE VERY, VERY DARK (VERY DARK) but I don't chose to be!
I CAN BE VERY, VERY LIGHT (VERY LIGHT) but never as LIGHT as I wan't to be, but I'm sure I will be!

This is a very unique place this Avalon. The minds, the spirits, the souls, the beings and energies that gravitate here are all very unique as well! but the fore mentioned are so unique and make this is the place a place of Humanity and evolution.
We can see deeper, higher, further than most we just need to hold together until we all can see clearer and merge our brain halved selves, combine our strengths and experiences and knowledges; if we (Avalons) can't do that all so simple little thing well then! Well then!
Well I know we can!

[Sierra]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
You all make sense to me, I Love you all, I wan't to hear you all, I want you all to stay together!
You all make sense to me your humans, this is who we are.
I am Right Brained, I am Left Brained, I am whole Brained, I chose to be how I wan't to be at any given time, I can do that.
I CAN BE VERY, VERY DARK (VERY DARK) but I don't chose to be!
I CAN BE VERY, VERY LIGHT (VERY LIGHT) but never as LIGHT as I wan't to be, but I'm sure I will be!

This is a very unique place this Avalon. The minds, the spirits, the souls, the beings and energies that gravitate here are all very unique as well! but the fore mentioned are so unique and make this is the place a place of Humanity and evolution.
We can see deeper, higher, further than most we just need to hold together until we all can see clearer and merge our brain halved selves, combine our strengths and experiences and knowledges; if we (Avalons) can't do that all so simple little thing well then! Well then!
Well I know we can!

Woohoooo, bumpity bump bump!

[Christine]

Heartsong...

I so agree with you! blufire has been hinting and saying whe would tell her story for the best part of five months, if not longer. I have PMed her to let her know that I would support her. I am honestly beyond judgement, as I have my own experiences, insights and have befriended dozens of people who have shared their intimate journeys. Tales that would make your hair stand on end. Through all of these experiencers, contactees, MKUltra survivors, targeted individuals, satanically abused there is a common thread. And yes these amazing stories are part of all of human experiences. In fact anyone who has been on Avalon for very long knows that we are all "guided", fooled and BEcoming wiser, clearer and more able to discern the lie from the truth.

If blufire thinks that her story is unique and has a message we need to hear then please tell it. Bill offered to protect her and her thread.

At this point I am tired of the hinting and then scournful hurting messages. What blufire wrote above is a gross misrepresentation of the enormous support she has recieved and refuses to acknowledge.

blufire, I thank you for the kind words toward me but they are only a tiny part of who I am. I am not some always sweet Spiritual Warrior that doesn't have spark when I need it.

And blufire beyond all of what I said - I have enormous love and compasssion for you but please stop biting the hand reached out.

And please stop playing games. The issues you describe are real and not being ignored. I never rest spiritually or physically and was looking forward to a movie tonight instead of trying to put out fires.

No, Avalon is not imploding.... what a hostile and unhelpful thread title.
WE ARE ADDRESSING EVERYDAY THE VERY REAL DANGERS YOU SPEAK OF.

With no irony blufire, you are loved but couldn't you think of a better way to address the seriousness of our situation other than brewing controversy and divisiness?

I have always thought we are on the SAME SIDE.

Posted by Heartsong (here)
Golly, personality and role conflicts before the tread is even posted! I hope this is not a sign of progress.

I would rather read the post about the contact with the aliens than read about the conflict. I can manage my response to it regardless of it's syntax.

[RunningDeer]

Oh dear it took so long to write my post, I'm behind and what I wrote may not fit. Partly because I haven't figured out what this thread is about. So feel free to delete...

I’m itching to get on with things. I don’t want to eat beans out of a cold can for the rest of my life. I’m thinking I’ll be around until I’m 140 years old. (no that’s not a typo) That’s a hell of a lotta beans and farts (fots if you live on the East Coast of the USA). So these are some recent experiences that say ‘almost time’:

Two weeks or so ago, I saw what I’ve labeled an ET vehicle three nights in a row around 11:30 p.m. Two of those nights, I checked again at about 2:30 a.m. it was still there. These are my official first sightings that blinked back red, green and white lights each time I pass along a ‘hello there’.

Next, I put it out into the Universe for confirmation about the whether the mantis family was real or was it imaginary when I was about six to eight years old. Below the next paragraph was what I posted elsewhere. What I didn’t include was the question as to whether they were real and they were mantis visits.

But first, here’s a quick backdrop: S/he was a mantis that wore a hooded cloak. Two little ones (twins) came along that I got to play with. I recall laying at the foot of my bed looking up at the sky hot summer nights. They’d come exactly @ 2:10 a.m. I know this because I’d get up to go to the bathroom and check the old radio clock. When it was time for them to go, they’d leave me song and colors that filled the bedroom the way it looks under a microscope and all the colors bump into one another and create buzzy static. I was never fearful nor thought to mention it to any one.

I’ve post parts of this before, but I think I’ve removed them because IT IS NOT WORTH THE HASSLE of people saying I am implanted and of no “Paula mind”. Frankly, I’d like to give up the “Paula mind” part and figure out where I fit into this whole larger perspective that... I know is absolutely right and true for me. If not “beam me up Scotty, stat.!”

Posted by ulli (here)
One more thing....maybe a suggestion for homework. As a person gets closer to their true reality,
they will read a thread like this, and if they deeply care about Napoleon he will suddenly pop up all over the place...
A book, or magazine, or they enter a house where someone has a picture on the wall of Napoleon Bonaparte...
And with enough synchronicities of this kind they might just discover that they have entered another world, one that is more real than the world of the skeptics out there.

Yes! This is how it happens with me. One of the recent examples was an ah-ha moment when I was younger and asked for further “yup(s)”. Over the course of three days, I got four confirmations.

• Day one, a praying mantis peeks through my screen door. (see desktop picture I made of it)
• Day two, one fluttered around me and landed on a shopping cart, which was out of her element.
• Then on day three, you provided a link to your son’s art. (see pic below)
• The same day, the exact moment I was thinking about the mantis(s) that flew into my life, a talk show guest brought up the praying mantis.

It works that way for me because I know it does, and so does the Universe.

So even with all that, I still hold to maybe, maybe not...cool either way. For me, recall little at a time is/was necessary. If it came all at once I wouldn’t have believed it. I’m still on the fence. I’m getting bits of triggers from others’ shares. But careful and skeptical that I don’t create a false portfolio of Paula layers.

I’m going slow with it all not because I am a fearful person. In private, I am a Warrior. I am disgustingly logical. In fact, I’m my own worst skeptic! Hear that, please. Which is why I alway self-check to a point where I beginning to think I’m OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder) in the quest. And eager for...if change is going to happen... then bring it because I’ve got my life on hold in some respects because as mentioned in another post:

This semi-hibernation state I’m in is preparation and rest. I’ve got my services hats ‘at the ready’: a hard hat, a base ball cap, a bad a$$ hat and a whoopie hat. When things ramp up, those of us that are aware will not feel it like those whom are not. There’ll be a whole lotta confused ones.

One caveat: So, I’m open to what you have to share, blufire. I am ADD and judgmental. Still working on those, so I may skip town to ground. Nothing personal. And it’s not my style to go loud and stomp. It’s unproductive for me and drains the juices that I'm saving up for the sleepy heads awakening or up-coming land changes or whatever ah-ha’s of why I’ve come at this time.

In fact, I’ve felt so strongly about what’s coming on one level ever since the early 1990‘s, that I left the clock world in 2004. In one nano-second I went from security of career of more than 25 years, to I GOTTA live a simple life and sort out all these puzzle pieces out. Way, way before I knew of Avalon, archons, and all the rest which is as recent as October, 2011 and signed up for the forum by February, 2012. I devote all my waking and sleeping hours to the zero point that is about to present. [relative speak here]

What do I see? The good stuff that we’ve wanted for our kids and grand kids. Different looking plants and animals. Lands of beauty and filled with song. Maybe it’s because I’m somewhere else. Who can say, really?

I’m only part-time soft, spoken spiritual warrior. I’ve got a 'don’t mess with Mother Bear' that you’d never want to see. She’s of power, that one. Oh, God...stopping now.....ego's come back on-line.

So a...way we go...

The Lone Ranger

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So

Peace,
Paula

[Camilo]

Go for it Bluefire!

[TODD & NORA]

Avalon has a few firefighters - folks who look for fires to put out...so that's one reason we're digging around the ethers. Regarding who's done what...well, I do things other people don't like, and ultimately, the decision must be made to either do nothing or do something. Most efforts prove fruitless it seems, but in the end, everything will work out fine, in spite of our selves.

Thanks to all of you for doing what you do, as the perfect expression of who you are, as a part of the singularity of the mind of God.

[ulli]

Blufire, I really feel that you need to forgive yourself for not having married an adventurer like Richard Branson.
ETs have always appeared in my life whenever I felt alien-ated.
And whenever I bought into their suggestions I ended up meeting myself. So now I thank them.
There is no one but me to blame for where I am right now.


Having made some pretty drastic life style changes myself,
possibly for exactly the same reasons you did, Blufire,
always moving further away from civilization, I can now say
that there have been several moments when I asked myself if it was all really necessary.

Life out there is still going on as normal; I mean... here we are, in 2013,
discovering that it is so much easier buying our produce from the farmers markets than growing it ourselves.
For decades I had believed that there would be a pole shift around the year 2000.
Well, all I know now is that it is I who has shifted, and that some people I know are also shifting,
and that all those expectations of literal earth changes are still trumped
simply when considering that in just a few decades this body of mine will be
in a horizontal position six foot under.

I believe that ETs did something to me, too, and even have restored my frail health for now,
and there is a perfectly logical reason for this.
I am to help others discover what it means to take responsibility for what happens to them,
instead of staying in duality and looking for someone to blame and lash out at.

This means in your case, to point out to you that all the anger you are directing out there, at Bill, or at Jim, or at men in general, is really anger and disappointment at your own decisions, your badass male nature, that has driven you to search for your personal Shangri-la only to discover that it doesn't even exist.
Because if you were happy you wouldn't give a rats ass at what Jiminii or Bill Ryan have to say.

As I said earlier, you should have found yourself a Richard Branson type husband and enjoyed an adventurous life at his side.
Then you could be sticking a middle finger at all those ET who tried to misdirect you,
right up there from that window in outer space.

[Debra]

This is a cleansing happening right now and not what the PTB probably think is another successful distraction.

No way NSA!

Bring it on everyone, though I can understand how the mods feel about this. Bill and team, I want you guys to know that you are doing a brilliant job.

I do not always agree with someone's ideas - left or right brained logic - but I am happily here because I see, daily, visible signs of members attending to their inner health - spiritual, emotional, intellectual and physical - and working through it with the support of this environment. And that is GOLD blufire! IT is a teaching environment. We are all learning. You, me and the rest of us all have areas that we need to develop to be stronger beings, empowered and empowering to others.

I am triggered, not in a bad way but a passionate way, when you just categorise yourself as just one kind of warrior. That is the kind of duality consciousness that requires so much attention on this planet right now. No one is less than the other, everyone has a piece of the puzzle and I think we are all potentially whole. I am on Avalon to help with my evolution - and the sky is not the limit for me.

I am not going to sing my praises on the kind of warrior I am or have been, or the personal and off the planet experiences and consequent psychic and other attacks that have brought me to this forum. But I will defend the right of myself and others to have a place to learn and develop and express where my thinking may be - on any topic I choose.

I can be a tough mother too in my outside activities - and I have not been a perfect leader at times, yes I get things done but I cannot ignore - in hindsight - how I could have been a better leader who has not left some people distressed in the process. so what I am trying to say is, I am sure as hell not going to avoid the fact that I have some obvious weaknesses too. For example, in my emotional intelligence - my ability for self awareness, social awareness and relationship management have let me down at times. Horrendously, which is painful to realise when you start to see how you feel and how you affect others around you.

But really bluefire, we have planet and ourselves to heal, so I figure I cannot afford to put into denial and pretend I can keep striking forth like Brunhilda or Ghengis Khan. Our whole house needs to be in order and if we can stay mindful of that, we will find the unconditional love, the unity consciousness that is so very much needed to accelerate the big changes that we want for this world. Integrating all areas of our instrument will get us there and that calls for each of us to have a well balanced left and right brain. That is fundamental. I am responsible for my engagement and consequences, nobody else. My work is to ..

Evolve.

I am very grateful that you have started this thread. There are some amazing energies on this forum and minds which I trust will - with me - hold the space for sovereign thought and freedom of expression and personal development to continue.


Best of wishes,
Debra

[BruceF]

We have had a fair bit of interaction with those buggers up in space (or popping in from higher dimensions) and it has led to us publishing two books. I think starting one forum thread about ones contact is a minuscule effort compared to two books - just go for it and lets get discussing the data THEY gave to you.

And those blooming aliens do not know much more than a keen dedicated researcher from Earth does, they are not much better sources than well informed humans are - take my word for it (if you like).

I have given the ET's the benefit of the doubt regarding their wisdom - now I tend more to doubt the benefits of their wisdom.

Just because they are well-meaning does not equate to them being all-knowing.

[skippy]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
You all make sense to me, I Love you all, I wan't to hear you all, I want you all to stay together!
You all make sense to me your humans, this is who we are.
I am Right Brained, I am Left Brained, I am whole Brained, I chose to be how I wan't to be at any given time, I can do that.
I CAN BE VERY, VERY DARK (VERY DARK) but I don't chose to be!
I CAN BE VERY, VERY LIGHT (VERY LIGHT) but never as LIGHT as I wan't to be, but I'm sure I will be!

This is a very unique place this Avalon. The minds, the spirits, the souls, the beings and energies that gravitate here are all very unique as well! but the fore mentioned are so unique and make this is the place a place of Humanity and evolution.
We can see deeper, higher, further than most we just need to hold together until we all can see clearer and merge our brain halved selves, combine our strengths and experiences and knowledges; if we (Avalons) can't do that all so simple little thing well then! Well then!
Well I know we can!

Yes, this is it. The boat has arrived. We can close the forum now. Mission accomplished. hehe..

[transiten]

Here i walk in beauty
Beauty is before me
Beauty is behind me
Above me and below me

The Earth is our Mother
we must take care of her
Heyana hoyana heyana

The Holy Ground we walk upon
with every step we take
Heyana hoyana heyana

[skippy]

Posted by transiten (here)
Here i walk in beauty
Beauty is before me
Beauty is behind me
Above me and below me

The Earth is our Mother
we must take care of her
Heyana hoyana heyana

The Holy Ground we walk upon
with every step we take
Heyana hoyana heyana

We are touching sacred ground. A new wonderful world, with infinite possibilities, in front of us..

Sacred (from Latin sacrāre, to set apart as holy), defined as :
- regarded with reverence, respect, etc.,
- secured against violation, infringement, corruption, etc.,
- properly immune from violence, interference, etc..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi skippy

Posted by skippy (here)

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
You all make sense to me, I Love you all, I wan't to hear you all, I want you all to stay together!
You all make sense to me your humans, this is who we are.
I am Right Brained, I am Left Brained, I am whole Brained, I chose to be how I wan't to be at any given time, I can do that.
I CAN BE VERY, VERY DARK (VERY DARK) but I don't chose to be!
I CAN BE VERY, VERY LIGHT (VERY LIGHT) but never as LIGHT as I wan't to be, but I'm sure I will be!

This is a very unique place this Avalon. The minds, the spirits, the souls, the beings and energies that gravitate here are all very unique as well! but the fore mentioned are so unique and make this is the place a place of Humanity and evolution.
We can see deeper, higher, further than most we just need to hold together until we all can see clearer and merge our brain halved selves, combine our strengths and experiences and knowledges; if we (Avalons) can't do that all so simple little thing well then! Well then!
Well I know we can!

Yes, this is it. The boat has arrived. We can close the forum now. Mission accomplished. hehe..

I'm not sure what you mean by your reply above, to my posting?
Do you get from my posting that I am saying shut the forum, it's all done go home?

I thought I was saying Yes, yes keep going we have all here what is need to merge our selves, in physical and mental was but most importantly the spiritual and connected consensus ways, we are getting there. The more we are set upon by negative energies, negative dark people, those minion of TPTB Well! I see how they are making us stronger and freeing our hidden powers, i'ts happening

Yes this post has turned very positive with some great words of wisdom and energies of Golden Hearts. Love your words Zebra
Love you all!

[chocolate]

Blufire, I tried to read only your first post and Bill's answers, not because I don't want to hear what others have to say, bet because I tried to preserve the clarity of what I sensed.
From what you are saying I think you have a battle inside of you. And I think you are all too serious when it comes to this existence. Life is not at all all that set in stone, and things change constantly, and also what you think you know and have been shown can have an utterly different purpose. My genuinely loving advice to you is to say what you need to say, and not to expect anything as an outcome. We have gather here or elsewhere for many reasons, so you never know where you will learn and what is the purpose of it all. Live with an open mind and try to be like the water, constantly changing. Otherwise frustration will be you enemy.

Don't try to put the blame on someone just because you are not sure what to do. We are friends, at least most of us here, and there is no need to point at someone as jim or Bill, or me.. for being liked or promoted (not that I am promoted, just giving an example). And after all, what does it matter who is promoted? What matters is if your existence here has its purpose which you will never be able to fully understand in this life at least.
If you don't like the place- do what you feel, but if you think there is a reason behind being here, do what you feel you must.

I never understood the desire to be liked, or I understand it but just cannot connect to it anymore. It is important to speak your truth so that others can validate their own understanding, that is why I love jim, and bill, and buares and so many so different members. They all speak what they feel, and help me find my own way of understanding. That is the purpose of their existence in this forum for me personally. But I also take all that has been said with a grain of salt. That is how I am. ... I so hate long posts, but I believe this is important to someone. -> all there is is a learning and experience, there is no wrong turns if you are true to what and who you are. this forum the way it is helped me realize that. and the rest is ... history as they say.

[blufire]

A very fascinating development this morning.

Bill, I had full intentions this morning to post your revised version of my opening post to get this ball rolling on what I remember of what I was shown as a child

I literally was going to cut and paste your revised version and go with what you recommended.

The fascinating thing is literally every email you have sent me the last couple months is gone from my email account.

Every . . . one . . . of . . . them.

It appears nothing else is gone, but I haven’t had time to go through my account fully yet.


I am not being dramatic here and am actually quite shaken at the moment. I changed my passwords (email and forum) as Paul recommended during the hack. I have changed them again but am feeling very uncertain and vulnerable.

I am posting this on the open forum because I feel this should be out in the open and transparent.

Any thoughts as to what is going on here?

I will not be very available today . . . . I care for my mother who is in stage 3 Alzheimer’s and I will be with her the bulk of the day and I have little to no internet access while with her.

[chocolate]

Posted by Camilo (here)
Go for it Bluefire!

go for it blufire. whatever you need to do. we'll read it.
I saw today a film- "Man of Tai Chi". See it and tell me who is the main character and who is the good guy, just try not to see the obvious.

[transiten]

Posted by blufire (here)
A very fascinating development this morning.

Bill, I had full intentions this morning to post your revised version of my opening post to get this ball rolling on what I remember of what I was shown as a child

I literally was going to cut and paste your revised version and go with what you recommended.

The fascinating thing is literally every email you have sent me the last couple months is gone from my email account.

Every . . . one . . . of . . . them.

It appears nothing else is gone, but I haven’t had time to go through my account fully yet.


I am not being dramatic here and am actually quite shaken at the moment. I changed my passwords (email and forum) as Paul recommended during the hack. I have changed them again but am feeling very uncertain and vulnerable.

I am posting this on the open forum because I feel this should be out in the open and transparent.

Any thoughts as to what is going on here?

I will not be very available today . . . . I care for my mother who is in stage 3 Alzheimer’s and I will be with her the bulk of the day and I have little to no internet access while with her.

Well here's a sync for you blufire! I just moved some books I haven't touched for years and one caught my attention! "The Blue Fire of Alchemy" Modern Arabic poetry. Just posted here about Rumi the 13:th century Sufi Afghan poet....Alchemy: Turning lead to gold, Spiritual Alchemy: ..............Just happened?