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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Given that Bill's stats are only averages, .
    It's only a publication taken from somewhere without verifying accuracy. Any man can make an stat say that it is the result of multi million research. Guess what it is exactly how the dumbing down is done.

    At least I am using my senses.
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    Sugar is just a plant juice, generally made from sugar cane or sugar beets.
    The white sugar has been stripped of all nutrients so it can be compared to
    eating white bread (it might also undergo chemical processes that may not be healthy).

    The sugar I buy is unrefined mascobado or rapadura which is basically dried
    plant juice, it has more minerals than fruit or honey. mascobado


    Quote Another important aspect of natural sugar cane is the balance of the different types of sugars. Raw natural sugar has a balance of sucrose, glucose, and fructose, whereas refined sugars are almost exclusively sucrose (the fructose and glucose have been washed out). The more sucrose, the more it raises your blood sugar.
    Source: http://www.processedfreeamerica.org/...ted-cane-juice

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    Quote Posted by EmEx (here)

    The sugar I buy is unrefined mascobado or rapadura which is basically dried
    plant juice, it has more minerals than fruit or honey. mascobado
    Yes mascobado is basically what we are using but be careful with your sources because I heard that big corp had their version.
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    The trouble is when you have an overgrowth of candida ( which most of us have), then it doesn´t matter much if the sugar is unrefined or not. The fungus will immediately turn it into food for itself. This is even the case with most fruits.
    Fruits are generally considered super-healthy, but if your digestive system is compromised by candida, the fungus will thrive
    on the fructose.

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    Default Re: Sugar is good. The sugar conspiracy scam hoax

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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    Given that Bill's stats are only averages, .
    It's only a publication taken from somewhere without verifying accuracy. Any man can make an stat say that it is the result of multi million research. Guess what it is exactly how the dumbing down is done.

    At least I am using my senses.
    You seem to be finding a lot of dumbed down forum members. Where were your senses when you applied to join?


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    Quote Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
    but try to stay away from Animal fat including lactose, since we do not need any lactose product from the moment we are off the breast milk.
    Peter, where do you get your calcium from?


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    It's really bad for you Bubu , if you're overdosing yourself with sugar the hyperacidity you have complained of in other threads will never go , by itself .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar

    Raw sugar is 'superfood' in fact , old doctors say that you could basically survive on one spoon ( cube ) of sugar a day for very long time. It was tested by real people in real circumstances , like expeditions , prisons and concentration camps .
    One spoon a day, understand ? You may turn malnourished but you will not die. The miracle is in the glucose providing direct, quick nutrition to your brain.
    Complicated carbohydrates, fats and proteins maybe all very healthy but they take hours for the body to proceed before they are converted to simple energy units especially those that can pass brain blood barrier .
    The sugar monohydrate molecule is very small , travels fast and feeds your brain but your brain, unless you're working on something mentally ( or even physically, real hard ) all day, can't burn all the energy you feed him.

    It's reason why so many people experience sugar craving and addiction to sweets, children as adults . In large doses when your organism can not proceed it,
    forcing your pancreas to produce more and more insulin , your liver to enlarge , it's simply a poison.
    It's very acidic , unlike raw honey which is considered the only 'alkaline sweetener' ( I'm sure there are some more options ) but then again, even honey in high doses is a poison.

    Raw sugar is superfood and you should treat it as such. What makes me angry with todays market including the so called 'alternative media' is that they are advertising 'superfoods' , often sold for really big money ,
    while in the native countries of those 'superfoods' , native people often work days for few rupees to produce your pounds of super-nut-sesame-chocolate-healthycane-baobab powder- guarana- bar ,
    and the Bar is sooooo healthy and tasty that you eat 3 on top of everything else while the 'African shaman' who produced it ( *) could go on the bar for week , laughing at ya' .


    Any concentrated superfoods, all inclusive , should be taken as meant, either in circumstances when you don't have access to other foods, when you are fasting and need immediate income of energy ( to save your brain or physical functioning ) ,
    or simply, in small amounts.
    When you are in nature, eat few nuts, or a fruit, it completely satisfies your taste buds for the day,
    unless you are a bee I guess and intend Flying all day and collect pollens, flying is very demanding as far as energy uptake goes so if you intend to exhaust the energy on getting wings and flying around, go ahead .

    Otherwise, you're killing yourself and deceiving yourself big way because if you're craving the taste and can't stop it simply means your brain controls have been hacked and are out of control , not telling you what 's good for you.


    End-of-discourse-

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    This is not a preach on foods. It's information on the why's and how's of food addictions. Below the video was mine account for Ben & Jerry's. Once I understood, I broke the 2-3 pints a week habit that day.

    Physically Addictive: Chocolate, Cheese, Meat, and Sugar

    Uploaded on Jan 20, 2010

    Neal Barnard MD discusses the science behind food additions. Willpower is not to blame: chocolate, cheese, meat, and sugar release opiate-like substances. Dr. Barnard also discusses how industry, aided by government, exploits these natural cravings, pushing us to eat more and more unhealthy foods. A plant-based diet is the solution to avoid many of these problems. Neal Barnard is the founder of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM).


    Breaking the Spell and Addiction

    I got sick the last two times I ate Ben & Jerry’s. Yip-yip-yeah!!! The body had changed. IMO: so did their recipe.

    I watched for a time how one pint triggered another the next day, and then went to three days in a row. These are some articles from Mike Adams @ Natural News that helped me stop the behavior:

    Is ice cream really as addictive as cocaine?:

    “(NaturalNews) In March 2012, the British news source, Daily Mail, ran a story that stated ice cream was as addicting as cocaine. The article quoted the well-respected American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, which had published a study performed at the Oregon Research Institute just days before.

    The clinical study reported that people build up a tolerance to ice cream in the same way they build up a tolerance to addictive drugs such as cocaine. The high fat and sugar content in ice cream causes chemical changes in the brain. When a person overeats fatty and sugary foods, there is a downgrade in the brain's pleasure center.

    This tolerance for the food is very similar to what happens to drug addicts. Just as it takes more of the drug to achieve the previous satisfaction level, it also takes more food for the junk food lover to feel satisfied.”



    Ben & Jerry's 'natural' ice cream filled with unnatural ingredients:

    (NaturalNews) Consumer watchdog group Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) is calling out popular ice cream maker Ben & Jerry's for using artificial and chemically-altered ingredients in its "All Natural" premium ice creams. According to CSPI at least 90 percent of the flavors used in "All Natural" Ben & Jerry's ice cream are not actually natural.

    Some of these ingredients include corn syrup, alkalized cocoa, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, vanillin, maltodextrin and dextrose, all of which involve some type of chemical processing or are simply artificial. Alkalized cocoa, for instance, involves a chemical process that changes cocoa's natural flavor, texture and chemical structure, as well as eliminates some of its acidity and healthy antioxidant content. And vanillin is just an artificial version of vanilla.

    "Ben & Jerry's sylvan labels notwithstanding, these ingredients come from the factory, not the farm. And slapping an 'all natural' label on the products certainly implies that the products are top quality and deserve to fetch a higher price," said Michael F. Jacobson, executive director of CSPI. "It's a stretch to call any of [these ingredients] 'natural'."

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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)

    Please take note we are talking of the real unadulterated sugar not the poisoned version
    Well, if it's poisoned, don't eat it!

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    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    yes, bubu, natural, unprocessed sugars are a-ok. The 80 percent alkaline and 20 percent acidic approach to food makes sense for human health. in fact, I believe an alkaline diet creates a more balanced (less war-faring and aggressive) society.

    The "demonization" of sugar you write about was perhaps a well devised strategy to introduce aspartame!!
    People are waking up to the dangers of this toxic chemical cocktail, however...
    Has everyone on this board gone batsh*t insane?! Sugar is sugar, and as such it is poison to the human body. There is no discussion any longer. The facts scream loudly enough to stifle any argument. It is so utterly beyond my comprehension, trying to understand why any person over the age of a child would support the consumption of sugar! It is delusional thinking to believe un-processed sugar is a-ok. Even sugar in fruit is to be minimized. Sugar is sugar is sugar, and it is not a healthful "food". Never was and never will be.

    "But, but, but the body needs sugar". No, it does not. The body makes all the glucose it needs from complex carbs and even proteins.

    The leading heart specialists, the ones not married to the drug paradigm, will all tell you that sugar is THE cause of heart disease, PERIOD.
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    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)

    Please take note we are talking of the real unadulterated sugar not the poisoned version
    Anything in excess is toxic. Some foods in excess leach minerals from your bones and teeth. Why? Because the body intelligence has balanced requirements for it’s survival.

    Annemarie Colbin, “Food and Healing,” page 160 - “These (sugar) create an acid reaction in the body, and acidity demineralizes the system; this occurs because when sugar is metabolized, it creates various organic acids. Sugar intake also alters the calcium-phosphorus ratio in the blood by causing the phosphorus level to drop. When not enough of the latter is present, clacium cannot be absorbed the the body.”

    Another example of how and why depletion and redistribution that causes an imbalance to homeostasis. It demonstrates the importance of correct intake from even “healthy foods”:

    Annemarie Colbin, “Food and Healing,” page 177 - “...Nightshade foods may subtly remove calcium from the bones and deposit it in the joints, kidneys, arteries, and other areas of the body where it does not belong.”

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    Great post by meeradas over @ the "Here and Now".
    Quote Posted by meeradas (here)
    Top notch hypocrisy:



    Better version:


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    Sugar Blues, by William Dufty:

    http://projectavalon.net/Sugar_Blues_William_Dufty.pdf


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Sugar Blues, by William Dufty:

    http://projectavalon.net/Sugar_Blues_William_Dufty.pdf

    Great book. Different cover. Back in the day, it was one of my personal resource books for my students.

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    To be to exact: glucose is important for the brain, not sugar. What is usually termed sugar is sucrose ie glucose-fructose disaccharide. Brain can also very well cope with ketones if glucose is not available.

    Analogies to consider:
    Glucose is fuel - eat more than you need and it´s like filling your car with the gas tank expanding. Fuel is still usable.
    Sugar ie glucose-fructose - eat this and it is like filling up your car with the gas tank expanding but gasoline is also poured into the trunk and a motor control chip is installed which hinders the performance of the car and reroutes the gas to be stored in wrong places.
    High Fructose Corn Syrup - same as the former, but on steroids.

    Also it is good to remind oneself that we are not equal, other people are more inclined to develope instantaneous seasonal insulin resistance - as Robert Lustig has ingeniously coined it - which is a brilliant thing to be able to do, it really helped one to put on fat to survive the winter. This would be highly inheritable quality and a smart thing. The problem is that our nutrition is based on autumn-menu. Spring-time-menu is therefore in short the antidote. A lot of veggies from above the ground level, meat, fat, but no fruits.

    Huge subject, youtube Robert Lustig, Gary Taubes among others and the distinct differences between monosaccharides will emerge.

    UT

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    One must understand the intimate link between carbs and sugars. Some of my favorite members here are vegetarians. Please, please understand I don't mean to ruffle yalls feathers. To quote Dan Burisch (paraphrased), "I'm just stating the science as I know it to be true."

    Carbs are all around us, tree bark, grass, etc and edible foods all have carbs which are made up of monosaccharides (mono=one sacchar=sugar). The two key players are glucose (naturally occurs in the body, is secreted by the liver and is fuel for the brain and blood cells) and fructose.

    We also have disaccharides (two sugars) which is the kind of sugar one buys in the store.

    There's also polysaccharides (many sugars). These are indigestible carbs such as fiber and digestible carbs such as potatoes, rice, corn, etc. I would never judge people for their diet, or dictate what people eat, just keep in mind that complex carbs are literally constructed of 'many sugars.' Upon digestion it reverts to sugars.

    Now insulin comes into play. It regulates sugars and amino acids (protein), it's a nutrient storage hormone released by the pancreas. Upon excessive sugar (carb) intake the body has no other option than to store it.

    Hence:

    Quote Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
    I traded sugar for honey which tastes a lot better and have gone from a size 18 to a 12. I will never go back.
    In regards to all sugars being bad, I generally agree, but if it wasn't for the liver secreting glucose we would literally die.

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    Default Re: Sugar is good. The sugar conspiracy scam hoax

    You've got to be kidding!

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    Speculating on sugar
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078338/combined

    Quote Depardieu at his best in a financial disaster


    Author: Julien C from Belgium
    18 May 2006
    The best movie I can remember with Depardieu.

    The plot is really good: talking about how one influent person can make the curves of the sugar rocket up artificially on the stock market whereas on the other side of the power a dumb ass losses all his money when the market crash down after somebody advised him to invest on sugar.

    The two main characters are excellent. It might look a bit overacted sometimes. But it is lovely to see them doing it like that.

    I would compare it to other financial movies like "Boillers room", "Wall street" and a book that I really like from Zola: "l'argent" (the money). But it has a ironic french touch in the dialogs that the two American movies don't have.


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    Araucaria, plenty of calcium in healthy diet, so just eat healthy and dont think about it. Water has plenty of calcium in it, if you drink the minimum 2 liters you have to drink daily :-)
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    My Opinion: Every BODY is different - because - every MIND (Consciousness) is different.

    What works well for one body (consciousness) will not always work for another body.

    It's best to get in touch with your body - and your consciousness (belief systems, thoughts, etc).

    Live thoughtfully = be aware of what you are putting into your body and how often . . . . and how you feel after you eat it. In other words: eat mindfully, live mindfully - and your body and mind will thrive.
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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