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    Default Re: Obama to Military - Will you FIRE on Americans?

    We shall see if Obummer puts this to the test on October 13th when truckers and veterans meet in DC. Check out this on 2012 the big picture:

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    Exclamation Re: Obama to Military - Will you FIRE on Americans?

    I was serving during this period, there were some regiments asked if they would fire on citizens if ordered (At an Armory during monthly training) and the overwhelming answer was NO SIR.

    THAT IS WHY THE DHS... FEMA and their off shoots are NOW armored more efficiently than our troops were when they first entered Afghanistan and Iran... They have created a Citizen Corp of Nazi Like "Brown Shirts" to completely side step the Posse Comitatus Act completely!

    SOON afterward you began to see "Returning Veterans of Foreign Wars" listed as "Probable Threats to Homeland Security" (Or The "Mother Land"). These are fascist Nazi's under NEW Labels... Pure and simple.

    They will create a crisis to get as many of our troops overseas as possible before they create a "Night of long knives" here. They KNOW that those who have taken the oath (For the MOST PART, plenty of bad eggs from the military who are evil and now serving as Merc's) that would take arms against the DHS/FEMA when they DID try to take up arms against Citizens.


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    Default Re: Obama to Military - Will you FIRE on Americans?

    Don't fire until you see the blubber of their hanging potbellies.

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    Default Re: Obama to Military - Will you FIRE on Americans?

    From one of GoodeTXSG's links from post #8:

    Obama Is Trying to Provoke a Revolution

    "Have you had enough America?  Well, that is what Obama wants. He wants you to take to the streets. He is waiting to crush all opposition to his “in-your-face-tyranny” approach to governing the American people.

    Don’t give into this despot. We can strike back at this illegitimate president through non-violent means. Do not give this dictator any excuse to further crackdown on the American people. I am also calling for all active duty military to refuse their orders to enter into combat. Lay down your arms until your country gives you the respect that you have earned. I am also calling for Congress to draw up articles of impeachment against Obama based upon the murder of Ambassador Stevens at Benghazi, the IRS spy-gate scandal, the continuing of the NSA illegal spying on American citizens, for spying on AP reporters, for Fast and Furious gun running to the Mexican drug cartels, for supplying aid and comfort to al-Qaeda and on and on and on..."

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    In the midst of the so-called government shut down, Obama has lashed at innocent American citizens. The President’s actions are so egregious that it is difficult to believe that he is not trying to provoke mainstream America into a confrontation with the forces of his administration. After Obama was confronted, in the mainstream media in May, with no less than five Watergate type scandals, coupled with his inability to give the central bankers the war they so desperately desire in the Middle East, the imposition of martial law may be the only way from which Obama can move to squelch all meaningful opposition to his continuing reign of terror. In the midst of the government shutdown, it is apparent that Obama is determined to inflict significant pain upon America. 

    Good News and Bad News

    Obama’s government shutdown gift to military families.
    The wives of deployed soldiers to Afghanistan can no longer shop at the Commissary because the grocery store of our military bases is a casualty of the shutdown. This is indeed bad news for the nation’s military families because they now will have to pay about 20% more for groceries because of Obama’s selective distribution of pain associated with the present crisis. Having grown up in a military family, I can honestly state that at the end of the month, most military families do not have two nickels to rub together. Obama would have had a very difficult time choosing a more vulnerable population to attack.

    A man has to have his priorities.

    There is however, a silver lining to the budget crisis as President Obama’s federally funded golf course is still open for business and its federally funded staff at the pro shop are anxiously awaiting the President’s next round of golf as he is teeing off today right after lunch.
    Also, Congress is still getting paid. In the Obama administration, they make certain that the country has their priorities straight; Government before people, privilege before duty and treason before honor.

    Duplicity of the Highest Order

    As the Obama forces arrest veterans for “trespassing” as they try to honor their fellow comrades on the war memorials, his minions allowed non-citizens to march on the very mall that is off limits to our veterans.

    No reasonable person is arguing against immigrants right to protest. However we must ask the question as to why are we allowing non-citizens to occupy the same piece of American land that we are denying to those who have defended our country, namely, the veterans?

    Even though there were barricades with “closed” signs on the National Mall on Tuesday, the National Park Police setup for a pro-immigration reform rally which speaks clearly to the double standard being imposed as a result of the shutdown. In short, immigrants were allowed to protest on the mall, veterans honoring their fallen comrades, were arrested for being on the mall. The National Park Police even set up more than 100 portable potties which were set up for immigrant protesters. Even a giant stage with lights and an “Immigration Reform Now” banner was set up in the center of the mall the morning after several veterans were hauled off to jail for being on the same piece of land. What kind of upside down administration are we living under?

    The arresting of our vets on the mall, another disgusting act of treason by this current president.

    The Washington Examiner reported that immigrant rally organizers said that they would be allowed by the National Park Police to carry out their protest under their First Amendment rights. Did I miss the memo where the veterans forfeited their First Amendment rights? If you think this is an outrage, we are just getting warmed up. Every American who lives within an hour’s drive of the capital should show up to the mall and defy the National Park Police and stand arm in arm with our veterans.

    Money for Our Enemies but Not to Keep Our Memorials Open

    US taxpayer money for al-Qaeda in Libya and Syria but no money will be spent to keep the war memorials open!

    Meanwhile, half way across the world, we have all the money we need to supply the al-Qaeda backed Syrian rebels with weapons and supplies. Wait a minute, didn’t the government accuse al-Qaeda of perpetrating 9/11? Yet, we continue to arrest our veterans and supply our enemies. This is treason.
    There are other selective acts by the Obama administration, resulting from the budget crisis, which are designed to inflict as much pain as possible on the American people. For example, the National Park Service has shut down the national parks, which technically, they have a right to do. However, the National Park Service is now shutting down private businesses in and around the national parks. This is something that they have no right to do.

    Obama’s Biggest Crime

    Obama, a traitor to the very troops under his command.

    Families of fallen military heroes receive a death benefit to transport the body of their loved ones from the battlefield to the cemetery for final disposition. In the ultimate act of betrayal against our soldiers, Obama has taken away the death benefit from military families, thus forcing the military families to come up with the money on their own or to simply allow the military to bury their family member on the battlefield where they fell. I am almost angry beyond words, as this impostor of a president is allowed to continue to so dishonor America’s finest citizens.

    Conclusion

    Have you had enough America?  Well, that is what Obama wants. He wants you to take to the streets. He is waiting to crush all opposition to his “in-your-face-tyranny” approach to governing the American people.

    Don’t give into this despot. We can strike back at this illegitimate president through non-violent means. Do not give this dictator any excuse to further crackdown on the American people. I am also calling for all active duty military to refuse their orders to enter into combat. Lay down your arms until your country gives you the respect that you have earned. I am also calling for Congress to draw up articles of impeachment against Obama based upon the murder of Ambassador Stevens at Benghazi, the IRS spy-gate scandal, the continuing of the NSA illegal spying on American citizens, for spying on AP reporters, for Fast and Furious gun running to the Mexican drug cartels, for supplying aid and comfort to al-Qaeda and on and on and on.

    In case you have not heard, martial law signs are being seen around the country. We are out of time!

    Congress: Stop him before he completes his mission.
     

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    Default As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Quote Congresswoman Michele Bachmann had tough words for Obama, even going so far as to suggest impeachment should be on the table.

    She told Rusty Humphries in a conference call sponsored by TeaParty.net on Tuesday that “we can have an impeachment hearing in the house” because Obama “has committed impeachable offenses.”
    I think that is no more against democrats vs republicans but an agenda that America people is not signing off, perhaps the way out is an impeachment. It has done before in Brazil, it can be done in America as well. It will probably save the day.

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    it's all just distractions...

    she's a nut, her husband helps cure Gays by smacking them in the head with a bible...

    nothing she says means anything...

    sorry

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Even if the woman is not good/credible, we can NOT discard the message itself... Definitely, it is a card that if well played could make some REAL changes in DC.
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Most look to D.C. to solve problems , or to politicians ... the place to look is in the mirror ... we have the type of government we have, because of our lack of oversight ... Notice the agenda , ever step back and look at the Agenda = STARTING WARS AND TAKING OUR LIBERTY STEP BY STEP ... Lets retreat to our underground city full of Gold and all the technology that they paid for , and sit back and watch Americans kill each other for food ... everything else is background music ... since we paid for it , doesn't it belong to us ??? I should walk up to the white house and get my key back and have a yard sale ...
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    If he is impeached, it will be after he's left office like G Bush was in 2008 (from memory). If he was going to be impeached, there's already been dozens of opportunities e.g. Libya invasion, Pakistan drone attacks/Bin Laden raid,...
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Michele Bachman has no credibility in the real world. She has revealed herself, over and over again, to be clueless when it comes to politics; she has only her own deep prejudices and hatreds to reference.

    And we should be clear that "impeachment" is also a concept that is carefully delineated in law. You can't make it mean what you want it to mean, even if you really, really, really want it be what you want it to be. It is only the first step of the process for having an elected official removed from office. It is only a "charge", one that sets in motion a number of other actions.

    And it cannot, by the way, have any effect on the official after he/she has left office.

    Here's a pretty good description, taken from Wikipedia, of some of the salient details. (There is lots more info in the Wiki article):


    Similar to the British system, Article One of the United States Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment and the Senate the sole power to try impeachments. Unlike the British system, impeachment is only the first of two stages, and conviction requires a two-thirds vote. Impeachment does not necessarily result in removal from office; it is only a legal statement of charges, parallel to an indictment in criminal law. An official who is impeached faces a second legislative vote (whether by the same body or another), which determines conviction, or failure to convict, on the charges embodied by the impeachment. Most constitutions require a supermajority to convict. Although the subject of the charge is criminal action, it does not constitute a criminal trial; the only question under consideration is the removal of the individual from office, and the possibility of a subsequent vote preventing the removed official from ever again holding political office in the jurisdiction where he was removed.

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    If he is impeached, it will be after he's left office like G Bush was in 2008 (from memory).
    To impeach, in the formal legal definition, is to charge a public official with improper conduct in office before a proper tribunal. One cannot impeach a private citizen or a former public official.

    George Bush was never impeached, and, if my understanding is correct, no US public official has ever been impeached after leaving office, by definition of the word "impeached".
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    If he is impeached, it will be after he's left office like G Bush was in 2008 (from memory).
    To impeach, in the formal legal definition, is to charge a public official with improper conduct in office before a proper tribunal. One cannot impeach a private citizen or a former public official.

    George Bush was never impeached, and, if my understanding is correct, no US public official has ever been impeached after leaving office, by definition of the word "impeached".
    The word comes from the French 'empêcher', which means 'to prevent'. The idea is to prevent further damage being done in office by removing someone from that office. So you've got to be right Paul.

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

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    Quote Congresswoman Michele Bachmann had tough words for Obama, even going so far as to suggest impeachment should be on the table.

    She told Rusty Humphries in a conference call sponsored by TeaParty.net on Tuesday that “we can have an impeachment hearing in the house” because Obama “has committed impeachable offenses.”
    I think that is no more against democrats vs republicans but an agenda that America people is not signing off, perhaps the way out is an impeachment. It has done before in Brazil, it can be done in America as well. It will probably save the day.
    The way out is to impeach the government as a whole. We don't need leaders! WE DO NOT NEED LEADERS!

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

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    Quote Posted by Azt (here)
    Quote Congresswoman Michele Bachmann had tough words for Obama, even going so far as to suggest impeachment should be on the table.

    She told Rusty Humphries in a conference call sponsored by TeaParty.net on Tuesday that “we can have an impeachment hearing in the house” because Obama “has committed impeachable offenses.”
    I think that is no more against democrats vs republicans but an agenda that America people is not signing off, perhaps the way out is an impeachment. It has done before in Brazil, it can be done in America as well. It will probably save the day.
    The way out is to impeach the government as a whole. We don't need leaders! WE DO NOT NEED LEADERS!
    sadly we do need leaders, humans always set a power over themselves , as to not take any self responsiblity for their thoughts and actions ... look at it, a city council , a mayor, a governor, a senator , a congressman, from every state , then a senate, a congress, the white house , the joint chiefs, the pentegon, white house chief of staff , the TSA , DHS, CIA NSA, ATF , FBI , ONI , all positions to take the heat so we don't have to be responsible for anything , we can blame them ... We could just let the governor run his state, and the mayors run the cities , and dissolve the rest and let the local sheriffs keep the peace , sure would save some money ...I guess if we had a neighborhood watch we could do that ourselves ...
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    I noticed this had been posted in the Up at the Ranch thread. But what is being said in this video fits just about everywhere.

    Communities need to get together and rule themselves.

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    I know poor woman. People call her Bat guado Bachman.

    After watching her the last 7 years, I believe them. She's a hypocritical farmer bill sucker. Her farms net pork in the hundreds of thousands a year, yet she voted NO to help other farmers effected by the heavy flooding and took the Food Stamp contract out the farm bill to subject us to "unlabled foods."' She's the nwo's favorite because she's divisive, ideological and off the chain mad with career politician power.
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Quote Posted by ghostrider (here)
    Quote Posted by risveglio (here)
    Quote Posted by Azt (here)
    Quote Congresswoman Michele Bachmann had tough words for Obama, even going so far as to suggest impeachment should be on the table.

    She told Rusty Humphries in a conference call sponsored by TeaParty.net on Tuesday that “we can have an impeachment hearing in the house” because Obama “has committed impeachable offenses.”
    I think that is no more against democrats vs republicans but an agenda that America people is not signing off, perhaps the way out is an impeachment. It has done before in Brazil, it can be done in America as well. It will probably save the day.
    The way out is to impeach the government as a whole. We don't need leaders! WE DO NOT NEED LEADERS!
    sadly we do need leaders, humans always set a power over themselves , as to not take any self responsiblity for their thoughts and actions ... look at it, a city council , a mayor, a governor, a senator , a congressman, from every state , then a senate, a congress, the white house , the joint chiefs, the pentegon, white house chief of staff , the TSA , DHS, CIA NSA, ATF , FBI , ONI , all positions to take the heat so we don't have to be responsible for anything , we can blame them ... We could just let the governor run his state, and the mayors run the cities , and dissolve the rest and let the local sheriffs keep the peace , sure would save some money ...I guess if we had a neighborhood watch we could do that ourselves ...
    As long as we keep believing this lie, we will never see a lasting improvement. God warned against having leaders, Jesus stated that governments had no legitimacy, yet we keep handing over our sovereignty to lunatics. It has been happening over and over again for thousands of years.

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    I don't think Joe Biden would be that much of an improvement

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    Default Re: Obama to nominate Janet Yellen to head Federal Reserve

    they had a contract for 99 years, they haven't renewed their charter, they can't because they have been liened... if they continue they will change a letter somewhere in their name and run as an entirely different corporation or some other pathetic legal interpretation... anyways she will be nothing more then a mortician working in a morgue at current world trends, looks like a suitable candidate to me... they could have saved even more money and hired a stuffed mannequin...
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    Default Re: Obama Ready to Shutdown 16 US States ?

    I don't think they can shut them down, they can only withdraw any "jurisdiction" they created, or it may be a "state" they have superimposed over the existing state... And private citizens can and should pick their own elected officials... the Federal government is a corporation "superimposed" over the real republic, I know it's more complicated then that, but still their jurisdiction is over a corporation that they created... bloody lawyers should wake up and educate people how to get out of it... there is a book called "invisible contracts" by Mercier, it is a must read for everyone... it's all statutory commercial contract law, contracts can be revoked, signatures can be rescissioned, it's endless... it's wading into their cesspool, but the lawyers should do it... they will suffer too
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