Exceptional psychic abilities in exceptional people

[Roisin]

Posted by w1ndmill (here)
This thread is moving quicker than I can read it, so apologies if this has already been added.

Here is a link to "5 technologies that will plug the internet straight into your brain". It's quite a large file with many videos covering:
1. Computer aided telepathy
2. The internet feels like this
3. Meatware, meat Hardware
4. Cyborg brains for all
5. A Dreamcatcher, literally
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/0...chnologies.php

Maybe exceptional psychic abilities for all are a mere "click" away . . .

I found the Dreamcatcher technology most impressive because it bears some resemblance to the kinds of results I get sometimes in my own work in cross-dimensional/paranormal photography.

Here's that You Tube video showing the kinds of results scientists were getting 2 years ago using this technology. What it does is translate whatever visual information we are "seeing" in our mind via what we are seeing at that time with our eyes into photographic data/information that's projected and seen on a computer monitor. This is really mind boggling stuff but someone on You Tube said:

togiff 1 month ago
The US government already has a weapon that can decode all the signals in the brain and body, with far greater clarity than this. The system has full HD video signals, can see the signals in the neurons in your eyes, visual cortex, audio cortex, read emotions, memories, of dormant and active memory. They use this to spy on us, they call it NSA Remote Neural Monitoring and Electronic Brain Link. Also does remote nerve/brain stimulation. link: oregonstatehospital. net/d/russelltice-nsarnmebl.ht­ml

I personally think that's true.
Here's that video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nsjDnYxJ0bo

[Carmody]

Posted by Agape (here)

When the Way is forgotten

Duty and justice appear;

Then knowledge and wisdom are born

Along with hypocrisy.

When harmonious relationships dissolve

Then respect and devotion arise;

When a nation falls to chaos

Then loyalty and patriotism are born.

http://www.taoteching.cn/index.php/c...-18-hypocrisy/

Now that...... is America (and western life, overall) in a nutshell.

[minkton]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by minkton (here)
Guruyoga isnt teacher and student. Its called guruyoga. A path of devotion.

Burn yourself down, as carmody put it, by giving yourself over to the guru.

Deciding that a guru is too powerful, is a decision of the ego. Either you listen to your ego , or your guru.

One is the path of liberation, the other is perfectly mundane. Worship is a great practice, when managed well. Humility and heart grows from it.

The person that benefits from cultivating devotion, is the cultivator. Ego is diminished in the process and will try to drive you into relationships where you will "feel more equal".. in other words, where ego is comfy in its throne.

There is no guruyoga discussed in taoist texts.

I found the guru within through the Tao. That guru has no agenda.

True, there are no guru's in taoism, it is a different discipline entirely and doesnt employ the same terminology. There is no 'enlightenment' concept within taoism or the tao. It is about simply being. ( so much more easily said than done.)

This thread was more about gaining extra powers.. which in taoism would involve immortality practices, for which one would need to be an exceptional adept to a high level master... who is also an immortal.

I'm interested to know how you can have a guru with no agenda.. what is the work or purpose of a guru, without any path to walk? How do you plan to evolve.. or .. no plan to evolve.... due to no agenda? Do explain please! thankyu.

I have always felt that what you do with a guru, is seek to progress.

[Carmody]

Posted by Dracon (here)
I have been assisting people with "exceptional abilities" for at least ten years now.

In that time I have not witnessed one of them post about it in a forum or online. These people are often worried about becoming exposed and for good reason. They require protection, sad but true. Few can allow their abilities to become commonly known without suffering repercussions for this.

These abilities exist and are documented in several ways. Your YouTube Channel will disappear in a hurry if you post genuine evidence of such abilities. I can say that from observing and experiencing this. (Even one former Avalon member tried to upload and post a video if herself doing something quite exceptional, and to this day cannot secure a YouTube account. ) the abilities and technologies of those who seek to control and suppress these abilities, should not be underestimated.

If we can't "believe" or accept the experiences of others on these topics and require further evidence.. We should experiment ourselves. Employ the scientific methods ourselves . If we're waiting for an official source, we will be waiting much longer still.

Excellent and enlightening thread here. Thanks Avalon.

The meat of this post cannot be stressed enough.

The attacks and observation, the PRICE of sharing is very high.

And to have the ignorant come to this thread and give me a hard time, all due to their projected willful ignorance, is a brutal slap in the face. But, I knew that going in.

Two things end up being suffered by those who share:

The animal in the human, projection violence and ignorance at the capable, in effect they do the elite's job for them, blocking humanity's progression.

The elite becoming aware of the given capable person and the capable person suffering much, for it.

What price, your freedom?

Should I give a damn?

[Agape]

Posted by minkton (here)
Guruyoga isnt teacher and student. Its called guruyoga. A path of devotion.

Burn yourself down, as carmody put it, by giving yourself over to the guru.

Deciding that a guru is too powerful, is a decision of the ego. Either you listen to your ego , or your guru.

One is the path of liberation, the other is perfectly mundane. Worship is a great practice, when managed well. Humility and heart grows from it.

The person that benefits from cultivating devotion, is the cultivator. Ego is diminished in the process and will try to drive you into relationships where you will "feel more equal".. in other words, where ego is comfy in its throne.

There is no guruyoga discussed in taoist texts.

Minkton , I can agree on the core meaning with you wholeheartedly but people should be very careful with choosing their guru and practise , especially nowadays and you will possibly agree that they should get informed . Before following something just because it's either a common custom in their society, or certain circles of society and everyone does it .


Guru-yoga means unity with your teacher, so no , without Master ( the word Guru comes from Sanskrit roots Gu- as in guhya - what is hidden , and Ru- light , one who dispels darkness or points out hidden meaning ) and Student , there is no guru yoga, since everything is relative .

In Hindu shastras there is hardly any separate yoga ( Yoga again comes from the root -yog meaning Unity and is defined as indivisible oneness , Yoga = chitta vritti nirodha , Unity is achieved by cessation of motion and transformation of the mind , which is both Path and the Resultant State ) called guruyoga ,
there is rather guru-pad , or 'guru path' , following the teachings of your chosen teacher .

There are 4 Yogas traditionally defined in Bhagavadgita and other scriptures that go by the names Jnanayoga ( Path of Knowledge ) , Bhaktiyoga ( Path of Devotion ), Karma Yoga ( Path of Selfless Service ) and Raja Yoga ( where Raja means King , and it's understood as path of meditation /samadhi , which covers all long way of Hatha Yoga, Pranayama, Pranayoga, Dhyana ( meditation ) and Samadhis ( contemplative insights which finally lead to enlightenment ) ,
those all are /were indispensable without personal guidance of guru , teacher, master, and yes in Hindu tradition where from all this history comes ,
Guru is more than a God .. because he can teach in human ways ,
Guru is more noble , more kind than Mother, more knowledgable than Father and the Best Friend , and source of all powers together .

Guruyoga was translated to other than Hindu traditions together with mostly, Buddhist texts as a core necessity to stress to people that no scriptural practise alone is sufficient without Guru-diksha ( initiation , empowerment ) and guidance of qualified master .

Where Lao'tze is concerned, he lived at about the same time in China as Buddha Shakyamuni lived in India ,

and despite common believes .. he did not establish Taoism , he would be probably very much against people calling themselves 'taoists' .
He was an advisor to an Emperor ( so his Guru in fact and the path of master-disciple was certainly not unknown long before both of these people ) and very controversial master of his own flavour who was at the end , very fed up with being followed by the court spies even if he had received one of the highest privileges available in the state, including free drinks in every pub he frequented ,

anyway, on his last attempt to cross borders of the Empire to live in peace in desolated and vast mountains of Tibet .. in disguise of drunken beggar on yak, he was caught by the guards and spies and forced to write down the summary of his wisdom in verses whichever came to be known as the Book about Tao and the Way ..


It clearly shows that there was a Way ..before and after Lao'tze..

[Flash]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Dracon (here)
I have been assisting people with "exceptional abilities" for at least ten years now.

In that time I have not witnessed one of them post about it in a forum or online. These people are often worried about becoming exposed and for good reason. They require protection, sad but true. Few can allow their abilities to become commonly known without suffering repercussions for this.

These abilities exist and are documented in several ways. Your YouTube Channel will disappear in a hurry if you post genuine evidence of such abilities. I can say that from observing and experiencing this. (Even one former Avalon member tried to upload and post a video if herself doing something quite exceptional, and to this day cannot secure a YouTube account. ) the abilities and technologies of those who seek to control and suppress these abilities, should not be underestimated.

If we can't "believe" or accept the experiences of others on these topics and require further evidence.. We should experiment ourselves. Employ the scientific methods ourselves . If we're waiting for an official source, we will be waiting much longer still.

Excellent and enlightening thread here. Thanks Avalon.

The meat of this post cannot be stressed enough.

The attacks and observation, the PRICE of sharing is very high.

And to have the ignorant come to this thread and give me a hard time, all due to their projected willful ignorance, is a brutal slap in the face. But, I knew that going in.

Two things end up being suffered by those who share:

The animal in the human, projection violence and ignorance at the capable, in effect they do the elite's job for them, blocking humanity's progression.

The elite becoming aware of the given capable person and the capable person suffering much, for it.

What price, your freedom?

Should I give a damn?

Thank you for giving a damn Carmody.

in effect they do the elite's job for them, blocking humanity's progression

This is very important. Most think they are intelligent and try to prove it while they are the dumies the elite counts on. I have seen it at all levels of society, again and again, such as a scientist explaining how to lauch rockets (a friend here) being laugh at - well, he is a real "rocket scientist" or that other one telling me about microwaves impact on the developing cell, well, he dedicated his life to microwaves.... duh.... or the spiritual teacher who never ever showed any ego, being hated for having refused to get into someone's game, or....

The worst part of it is not only being observed and noticed by the elite, being slapped in the face by other citizens, but the worst part is, I think, the loneliness. This is a very lonely path. Because of those making the work for the elite.

[Roisin]

Carmody

There's another reason too.... there are those out there who are extremely competitive and they have personal issues with those who give proof of their exceptional abilities especially when they themselves either really don't have those same abilities at the level the other person does or they are unable to give proof and evidence of whatever it is they can do. But for the ones who are like that, I know from personal experience that if they are practicing various psychic attack rituals and are able to 'send' via their intention a passel of those phantoms that they are attached to as a result of those practices, they will send them to that person who they are competing with and cause them to have ongoing psychic attacks. Jealousy plays a big role in this type of situation.

I personally have experienced this myself so I know what I'm talking about and the ones that do that will even sometimes boast about it.

So it's much better for those who do demo's and have proof and evidence of their abilities to show and talk about that in a private venue as opposed to a public one.

Anytime you show that kind of information publically, you are exposing yourself to psychic attacks by those type of people I mentioned above.

But if you are only talking about what you can do, usually those ones don't care and will leave you alone. Only when you show proof and the stronger the proof, the more they will try to inundate you with their phantoms.

On the other hand, even if you are only talking about your exceptional abilities, if everyone in the forum is believing and taking your word for it that you can do it, there's a chance those ones I mentioned above will cause you to experience psychic attacks. Every situation is different and everyone is taking a risk when they are publically talking about their abilities... even without showing any proof.

[Chester]

Posted by minkton (here)

I'm interested to know how you can have a guru with no agenda.. what is the work or purpose of a guru, without any path to walk?

That was precisely the point and you nailed it!

As Krishnamurti said, "Truth is a pathless land."

Posted by minkton (here)
How do you plan to evolve.. or .. no plan to evolve.... due to no agenda? Do explain please! thankyu.

I have always felt that what you do with a guru, is seek to progress.

Yep.

[LahTera]

I was bored with the internet this last couple of days. I asked my daughters partner if he had any DVD's i could watch. He gave me the. "What the bleep do we know" Video. I have seen it before but I watched it again last night and thought of this thread. This is a slightly shorter version than the one i watched.

I love What the Bleep Down the Rabbit Hole.

[LahTera]

Posted by Roisin (here)
I found the Dreamcatcher technology most impressive because it bears some resemblance to the kinds of results I get sometimes in my own work in cross-dimensional/paranormal photography.

Here's that You Tube video showing the kinds of results scientists were getting 2 years ago using this technology. What it does is translate whatever visual information we are "seeing" in our mind via what we are seeing at that time with our eyes into photographic data/information that's projected and seen on a computer monitor. This is really mind boggling stuff but someone on You Tube said:

togiff 1 month ago
The US government already has a weapon that can decode all the signals in the brain and body, with far greater clarity than this. The system has full HD video signals, can see the signals in the neurons in your eyes, visual cortex, audio cortex, read emotions, memories, of dormant and active memory. They use this to spy on us, they call it NSA Remote Neural Monitoring and Electronic Brain Link. Also does remote nerve/brain stimulation. link: oregonstatehospital. net/d/russelltice-nsarnmebl.ht­ml

I personally think that's true.
Here's that video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nsjDnYxJ0bo

I've read about these things on some science sites. Pretty amazing, and it gives me hope that we're figuring things out.

[grapevine]

I'm finding this thread totally fascinating and can't wait to read what is written next, although I haven't watched all the videos yet and will come back to them if I can keep up. Thank you so much.

What I would like to know, and I don't think there's been a comprehensive list, is just what constitutes "exceptional psychic abilities". I have oob experiences but they are involuntary and uncontrolled and I end up in strange places, so I do not therefore consider it to be an exceptional ability. EXCEPT they serve as proof to me that there are abilities outside the norm. I can sometimes also tap into a person who is walking in front of me but only pick up a feeling of weight or mood, not thoughts or anything else.

So what is considered to be an "exceptional" psychic ability? Does anyone here, for instance, have the ability to be in two places at the same time?

[donk]

Carmody, I have a question...and it kinda ties into the direction I hope the thread's moving:

I claim to have made approx 4000 people SIT DOWN, at the peak of a given concert, when the rest of the crowd was standing (+50,000 people). (among other instances)

I have zero doubt in my mind you (& other "exceptional" people) are able to do this...but what gives you the right? Isn't that some sort of violation of others' free will?

Also: who's to say there's not someone MORE exceptional, compelling you to "choose" to do that, without you realizing?

[Roisin]

Windmill.... There are different levels of "exceptional abilities". It's like that for everything so why should it be different in this case too?

Uri Geller is known to have bi-lated a few times. And then there's Padre Pio, of course, who is known to bi-locate a number of times too. Both of them have/had other exceptional abilities... the kind that they could do demonstrations of.... which they have done/did on an ongoing basis. So it's safe to say that those who have extraordinary abilities that are at the top of the pyramid, also possess less impressive abilities right on down the line to the bottom of it.

But this would not be the same case for someone who has only bi-located once.... where it never happened again. In that case it was a fluke but nevertheless, they most likely DO have a number of abilities that start off at a certain level and on down to the kind of stuff most people can do too. I believe that the potential is there for ALL of us to reach the summit if one is motivated enough to get there.

The above information is just my own opinion and nothing more.

[minkton]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by minkton (here)

I'm interested to know how you can have a guru with no agenda.. what is the work or purpose of a guru, without any path to walk?

That was precisely the point and you nailed it!

Posted by minkton (here)
How do you plan to evolve.. or .. no plan to evolve.... due to no agenda? Do explain please! thankyu.

I have always felt that what you do with a guru, is seek to progress.

Yep.

You know how people work out at a gym for a long while and poodle along nicely, then they get a personal trainer for a while and suddenly they actually look fit .... being your own guru is a perfect way of confirming your own egoic preferences, day after day after day, and telling yourself your working out... inconvenient, but true, I'm afraid.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by w1ndmill (here)
have the ability to be in two places at the same time?

Mid-1980’s, I was on my way to meditation class that was reschedule on a day I went to a healing service. I was in conflict but picked the meditation class which was an exit away from the other. Still torn with my decision and bewildered, I pulled over stared up at the stars.

My body felt relaxed and heavy. Then was aware of the time, 6:50 p.m., a few moments ways from my 7:00 p.m. meditation class. I felt disoriented and confused by my indecision. During meditation I had the experience of two places at once. One eye watch a black and white movie of a 1860’s lifetime where I was a deaf mute blonde boy, living on a farm with my mother, who is the same one in this lifetime. While the other eye watched these tall totem people. I wasn’t afraid of them just surprised how tall they were. The main leader spoke to me through mind.

It wasn’t until the following week that I found out the rest of the story. At the healing service, a man asked if I’ve been experiencing any troubles lately. I told him no. He went on to explain he has the ability to see people that bi-locate. And I was in the room during last weeks service and it was about 6:50 p.m.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by donk (here)
I have zero doubt in my mind you (& other "exceptional" people) are able to do this...but what gives you the right? Isn't that some sort of violation of others' free will?

They still have free will. Even better with awareness. This is an example of the lady's free will vs. my free will + awareness:

Repost: "My Big Pajama Pants"

While I was sick, I had a chance to exercise my natural gifts. Unaware of the power of the flu, I used up my small size bottle of DayQuil. Unwilling to change out of my big pajama pants, my solution was to drive one town over to the CVS, a quick shop drugstore. You know, the place where there are four registers and only one is ever open. Where it’s one line, with five people holding themselves up with shopping carts filled with GMO food stuffs and other sundries.

Well, that day, the flu and I were in sync with the natural laws of abundance. No line, and only few customers in the store. I speed walked to the isle and on the way back there’s a woman bee-lining down the main aisle towards the register, with a carriage filled with a sh!t load of sh!t.

So here’s where I merged my powers of persuasion with her natural inclination to shop and shop. I visualized her stopping mid-way to hav-a-look at whatever the aisle had to feed her shopping frenzy. That 2 second stall netted me a first place at the register. Booyah!

free will + awareness 'trumps' free will
choice(s) on both sides of the equation

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Roisin (here)
But this would not be the same case for someone who has only bi-located once.... where it never happened again. In that case it was a fluke.

Hi Roisin,

fluke 1 |flo͞ok|
noun
unlikely chance occurrence, esp. a surprising piece of luck

Because fluke is not in my vocabulary, rather than either/or, I'd offer one more possibility. Bilocation is happening, but the novice or one that is not ready to call it their own, mislabels it déjà vu, bodily sensation, and vivid imagination.

It’s not important enough to go beyond little nudges of encouragement. But when it’s time for it to kick in, s/he’ll open to the conscious possibility.

Peace,
Paula

[Roisin]

That makes sense Paula and thanks for pointing that out! I agree!

[Chester]

Posted by w1ndmill (here)
I'm finding this thread totally fascinating and can't wait to read what is written next, although I haven't watched all the videos yet and will come back to them if I can keep up. Thank you so much.

What I would like to know, and I don't think there's been a comprehensive list, is just what constitutes "exceptional psychic abilities". I have oob experiences but they are involuntary and uncontrolled and I end up in strange places, so I do not therefore consider it to be an exceptional ability. EXCEPT they serve as proof to me that there are abilities outside the norm. I can sometimes also tap into a person who is walking in front of me but only pick up a feeling of weight or mood, not thoughts or anything else.

So what is considered to be an "exceptional" psychic ability? Does anyone here, for instance, have the ability to be in two places at the same time?

99.99% of the folks I encounter every day recognize far less than you have recognized about yourself that relates to psi abilities. I see you as exceptional.

[donk]

free will + awareness 'trumps' free will
choice(s) on both sides of the equation

Agreed. And I find it concerning.

So now I am asking: what are the consequences of using your awareness to impose on another's will? Of exercising your free will in that manner where your awareness trumps their free will?