Corporate media fires back at Russell Brand

[Ellisa]

Those Fox people are very much removed from reality. Do they REALLY think that wealth is not finite but can just keep going forever, growing bigger as greed takes over. Extraordinary!

Also, as someone else has pointed out Nazi does not equate with Socialism. Nazi = Fascism. If you need to denigrate Socialism the word to use is Communism. but that is now ridiculous.

And to all those screaming on the Fox discussion-- you distribute wealth by increasing taxation on the wealthy and use it to provide facilities for the less-wealthy. Examples are Health Services, schools, universities, hospitals, roads, law enforcement, environmental care, state pensions, housing, defence etc. Everyone can use these, and others, without charge. For many places in the world this is their population's experience everyday. But Russell is right. We need to be sure we do not lose what we have, and his decision not to vote is just silly. The vote is our way of protesting, or ensuring our wishes are heard. The bizarre results in the recent elections here in the Australian Senate indicate the way that individual voters still matter.

[enfoldedblue]

One thing many of us here have figured out is that the game manipulators have been able to maintain their success for so long because they play BOTH sides. By placing agents on the 'good 'bad', 'left' right', etc they ensure that they can lead movements in ways that ultimately benefit their agenda. Based on the way they play I would expect them to be advancing a really cool good looking person, with a slightly rebellious nature, who offers 'some' truth that people can relate to...an appealing voice for the disgruntled slaves. Hopefully Brand is a free agent speaking for himself, and advancing in the spotlight on his own steam. However, I feel that knowing the way the big boys play it might be wise not to get too caught in the sway of a 'movement'. A few years ago I would be thinking Russell was a hero and be telling everyone I know to listen to the important things he has to say. Now I choose to stand back and watch.

Ultimately I don't think we need heroes anymore. We need to stop focusing on people on outside pedestals and learn to recognise the hero within. This is how the game will really change.

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I also forgot to say that I don't think these old tricks work the way they used to in this new energy. Spreading the truth...will only wake people-up regardless of if there is a negative agenda behind the movement.

[KiwiElf]

FOX News? We call it the "NAZI Propaganda Channel" here

[Cidersomerset]

I like this poster....Of course he will be ridiculed by the mainstream.




http://www.thedailysheeple.com/russe...-happen_102013

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[risveglio]

Posted by Ellisa (here)
Those Fox people are very much removed from reality. Do they REALLY think that wealth is not finite but can just keep going forever, growing bigger as greed takes over. Extraordinary!

Also, as someone else has pointed out Nazi does not equate with Socialism. Nazi = Fascism. If you need to denigrate Socialism the word to use is Communism. but that is now ridiculous.

And to all those screaming on the Fox discussion-- you distribute wealth by increasing taxation on the wealthy and use it to provide facilities for the less-wealthy. Examples are Health Services, schools, universities, hospitals, roads, law enforcement, environmental care, state pensions, housing, defence etc. Everyone can use these, and others, without charge. For many places in the world this is their population's experience everyday. But Russell is right. We need to be sure we do not lose what we have, and his decision not to vote is just silly. The vote is our way of protesting, or ensuring our wishes are heard. The bizarre results in the recent elections here in the Australian Senate indicate the way that individual voters still matter.

Voting might do something in Australia but it doesn't doesn't do **** here. Also, the government is horrible at everything you listed above.

[panopticon]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Voting might do something in Australia but it doesn't doesn't do **** here.

Doesn't do much here either.

The bizarre results in the recent Federal election actually show how our votes don't matter. It was the complex preference deal system that got the Victorian Motoring Enthusiasts Party and the Democratic Labour party elected. These preference deals meant that someone with only 0.23% of the overall vote almost gained a Senate seat in WA (source).

Posted by risveglio (here)
Also, the government is horrible at everything you listed above.

Ditto.

There's an old saying: Sh!t floats to the top.
-- Pan

[Poly Hedra]

I would suggest that everyone who can goes and buys the issue of The New Statesman. I'm hoping there will the a huge amount of sales and it will be hard to deny that the lower echelon minions (us) have not taken heed to what Russell has to say. fyi: almost everyone I know on fb has posted that interview and there's a bit of a running joke about how many people have actually posted it on their page.
The lamestream media is defunct and we are witness to the last dying gasp of an outdated way of thinking.

edit:
Almost every single post on that video is priceless and encouraging. I dont know if its me but it seems to me that the comments before would have been a mixture of positive and negative but now they are about 90% positive and aware.. yay!
Here are some examples:

"Someone please put these people in a spaceship on a one way ticket to the Sun. I don't think I could handle this much stupidity in a lifetime let alone in a 8 minute video, I bet if they were any more dense, a black hole would form.They couldn't have missed the point that Russell Brand was trying to make any more, even if they tried. What a complete and utter embarrassment to the human race, even the animal kingdom is pointing and laughing at them, These people are really too stupid to insult!"

"Fox news is a large part of the reason republicans are stupid, and will remain so, so long as they continue to submit themselves to this psychological dictatorship"

[Snowflower]

In the 18 years I have interacted online via discussion forums and social networks, I have never before seen one specific story splashed across the page on every single outlet I have access to. That interview of Russel has sparked more reaction than anything else ever has - even exceeding Edward Snowden revelations! I believe the truths he spoke in that very short segment have awakened a sleeping giant: the people of the world.

[risveglio]

Posted by conec (here)

"Fox news is a large part of the reason republicans are stupid, and will remain so, so long as they continue to submit themselves to this psychological dictatorship"

It's exactly what MSNBC has done to Democrats. I like it when they wear masks, oh wait, we are talking politics. Always get that confused.

Also, Fox has Stossel and the Judge and they are the only decent people worth listening to on any of the 24 hour news stations, though they do try to hide them.

[Sunny-side-up]

I wish my dear old dad was here now to see this. He fought in WW2 and because of his views about that he used to say to me any time a politician was mentioned ' give them all a gun, put them in a big field and let them shoot it out between themselves (They cause the problems), then when you have one left alive SHOOT it' He didn't like politicians lol!
My view on that is that it's the Political Systems now that need to be killed off but not just replaced with a NWO; which this whole process is all part of! If we all scream 'Down with Political systems' where dose that leave the PTB? just where they want to be!
We are on the right track but we need to put out strong statements and ideas for all to hear of New-Way-To-Live concepts (Get rid of cash for one thing) If I wasn't long term ill and in so much chronic and at time acute pain; well I would work in a system based more on service as the rewarding motive)(Enough resources here to give every being a little home (as a birthright) with base needs supplied, if you want a bit more (IE say the MK2 version of a TV set ETC) do extra service(Maybe working in a TV factories for a month or 2!)), New-Way-To-Overview-The-Whole-World and get it and us healthy again!
We Sooo Need it! Right-Hear_Right-Now.
Any surplus wealth (as it was put) needs to be spent on the Earth and including New technology and concepts for humanity, to help humans survive and thrive as a whole!

Many years ago as a kid I used to be so upset with our world and the way it was ; I used to see so much great technology and wondered why we were still stuck in the victorian days and ways, we could and should be so fantastic now!

Well personal views aside we can all agree on 2 main things:
1) We need use our Earth's resources right now to save our Earth, while we still have such resources! (am I right in thinking that?)
2) we should be a One-World-Wide-Great-Species now!

[Krist]

If any thing rb is saying has any real value his career should hit rock bottom and his credibility will be destroyed......stay tuned

[Flash]

Posted by Krist (here)
If any thing rb is saying has any real value his career should hit rock bottom and his credibility will be destroyed......stay tuned

This is my thought too, although I do not wish this to him. I think the media thought they could control him.

I criss crossed Britain last summer and I was amazed at the number of comment I had on the crooked government, thiefts, etc. I would not even mention anything but would be given these comments.

I do think people are awaking to the corruption of the elites. How much they understand from it, I do not know, but they are becoming aware of having been fooled.

The only country where I do not see this in mass yet is the USA, and probably English Canada. In French Canada, loads of corruption came up this year, loads and load, so people are quite aware of what is going on.

American are so ingrained into patriotism that they cannot come to terms with "we have been hijacked" yet.

[Taurean]

Posted by Krist (here)
If any thing rb is saying has any real value his career should hit rock bottom and his credibility will be destroyed......stay tuned

I think he's already been down that route on more than one occasion and come back smelling of roses.

[spiritguide]

Distracted are we, well the new world order is manifesting in this direction. Where do you think they want us. When Brand goes to the front of the protest lines, then I might listen to his babble, until then he is all talk no action. IMHO

Read this and ponder...

The trap of Marxism/Socialism continues

Posted by Ed Mattson

There are weekends when it would be nice to pick a subject to write about that doesn’t include the government and the mischief in which they always seem involved. Whether it’s a House or Senate Bill; backroom dirty deal trying to sneak one over on the 50% of Americans who are waking up and catching on to the devious means our elected officials use to reinforce their power fiefdom; or simply disclosing the never-ending schemes government uses that are steep in waste, fraud, and abuse, the story need to be told. Washington’s Politburo, and their sycophantic bureaucratic parasites make for such ripe pickins’ that is impossible to ignore.
If you have been tagging along keeping up with my most recent columns you know I have been advocating taking ALL our politicians to the woodshed for their actions, inactions, ignorance, and destructive behavior that is allowing Obama and his Regime to steer our country’s ship directly into a financial Armageddon built on the failed beliefs of Karl Marx and the socialist band of ne’er do wells that have taken over the Democrat (AKA Progressive) Party.

So stupid has Washington become that yesterday I had to take a detour to discuss government’s latest attempt to “change the Obamacare subject”, by creating a controversy over the Marine Corps cover (hat). It seems that with the monumental problems facing our country, to get embroiled in an attempt to feminize the Marine Corps, though it was immediately denied by the powers to be, is just another example of how out-of-touch Washington has become. There seems to be little awareness by those inside the Beltway that our country is headed over the cliff, as they malinger around rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

It’s a fact that that the private sector hires the BEST and the government goes after the REST.

So now it’s time to get back to issue of why I believe our country is falling prey to the failed tenants of Marxism/socialism. It’s not an overnight conversion, but a slow creeping cancer-like blob, that firsts begins its infestation in time of social and economic malaise which all economies go through, making promises to the most vulnerable, that success is a zero-sum gain. You cannot have success in life without gaining that success on the backs of others. The goal of all Marxism and Marxism-like systems is to separate the target audience (the citizens) into class-envy groups; by creating classes of victims that due to no fault of their own, are victims “of The Man” or other villain most often portrayed as a bourgeoisie class.

Once they can get a foothold on such errant thought, the never ending march forward to discredit and denigrate everything good about the society in question, and make gradual, almost unnoticeable changes, which unless recognized for what it is, will overwhelm the target before it can be effectively halted. The Marxist game plan, though it has not a single example of success, focuses its attention on key areas of society as I began pointing out in my previous article, The Trap of Marxism/Socialism:

1.Take control of Healthcare so you can control the health and vitality of the citizenry.
2.Provide the public with so many free services with promised for many more to make everyone dependent on the government to maintain even the most minimal of existence. In short, create a “lowest common denominator” as the highest level of achievement.
3.Redistribute the wealth through a tax system that punishes success and rewards failure as there will always be more failure than success under any economic system.
4.Confiscate either through taxation or through police power, private ownership of land and personal property.
5.Abolish the ability to pass wealth from one generation to another by prohibiting or taxing inheritance out of existence.
6.Control the country’s credit mechanism which makes it impossible for economic growth of the private sector; and if not possible to totally control that avenue of growth, create rules, regulations, and standards that make it impossible or too costly for the private sector to afford.
7.Control the nation’s currency and monetary systems with the ability to control inflation (the value of the currency) and the amount of money in circulation through an agency that is above audit and accountability and shrouded in secrecy.
Continuing to identify the targets of a Marxist-socialist agenda, no subversion of a free society would be complete without addressing religious thought, a cohesive “family unit”, the education system, freedom of the press, controlling factories and instruments of production, and control of the workforce…
● Destroy religious thought; the eruption of secularism; the devaluation of life (pro-abortion crowd applauding government funded abortion and the support of euthanasia); and attempt of less than 3% of the US population to force the country to remove “God” from Christmas, Easter, money, and the legal system.

“Religion is the sign of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.” Karl Marx

Most red-blood Americans are angry and profess outright hatred of the secularists that though less than 5% of the U.S. population has waged an unending attack on the First Amendment which states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The secularists are on a constant rampage about the word “God”, claiming the mere mention is an attempt to establish a religion. This is absurd. The Founding Fathers for the most part, were aware of enforced church theory from the experience of the Colonists fleeing King George and the Church of England, the official religion of the time. The First Amendment prohibits establishment but clearly states that the people cannot be prohibited from the free exercise of religion, and even extends to the right to peaceful assembly to practice one’s religious believes. To anyone with an ounce of common sense, this would include Christmas, Easter, and other religious holidays.

Not to be argumentative, I have no problem with the secularists working at their jobs on religious holidays which, if they truly believed in their cause, would do so gladly and keep their mouths shut. I also have no problem with a government which tries to enforce secularism on the general population, to fore-go religious holidays and work straight through without benefit of any time off. To me this makes them atonable for their ignorance in the first place!

Link to rest of article...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10...ism-continues/

Peace!

[wolf_rt]

The youtube comments tell the story... not long now...

[Ellisa]

Actually Pan, the Senate results do show how much the Proportional Representation used in the Senate relies on bizarre chains of votes and incredibly small margins for victory. When combined with billionaires who are able to buy these votes we see the truly dire results. I must admit that it does upset quite a bit, though my hope is that it is so blatantly wrong that the inquiry into the last election (which is held after every election) will recommend a change, The bizarre fact is that the whole farcical situation is completely legal under this crazy voting system.

As for the services not being provided in the US--- well I think we all understand that they are not. Russell Brand's point (and I agree with him) is that a wealthy country like the US ought to be able to provide for its less fortunate citizens, and taxing the wealthy may be a good pace to start. The fact that people think that here in Oz we are doing really badly indicates that perhaps they have no idea what it is like to really have no infrastructure to help you if you become ill, lose your job,want to study at University-- or, if you are lucky, grow old, for example. However that is not to say that there does not need to be improvement--- only I can't see anything good happening over the next 3 years!

[Akasha]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Talk about (Missing-The-Target)...

Ridicule me if you like, Jack, I don't mind. As I said, I love the guy. It's always encouraging to watch the awakening of someone in the public eye and I feel sure he will refine his perspective as he progresses along his path.
I'm particularly impressed by his transition to veganism too, not to mention his ability to get into full lotus!!!



Incidentally, he became vegan after watching the documentary, Forks over Knives, which traces the personal journeys of Dr. T. Colin Campbell, co-author of the China Study and Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, a top surgeon at the Cleveland Clinic and examines the profound claim that most, if not all, of the degenerative diseases that afflict us can be controlled, or even reversed, by rejecting our present menu of animal-based and processed foods.

Forks over knives is not available on YouTube but can be watched via the website for a small fee, or via Pirate Bay for those short of a bob or two.

[panopticon]

Posted by Ellisa (here)
Actually Pan, the Senate results do show how much the Proportional Representation used in the Senate relies on bizarre chains of votes and incredibly small margins for victory. When combined with billionaires who are able to buy these votes we see the truly dire results. I must admit that it does upset quite a bit, though my hope is that it is so blatantly wrong that the inquiry into the last election (which is held after every election) will recommend a change, The bizarre fact is that the whole farcical situation is completely legal under this crazy voting system.

As for the services not being provided in the US--- well I think we all understand that they are not. Russell Brand's point (and I agree with him) is that a wealthy country like the US ought to be able to provide for its less fortunate citizens, and taxing the wealthy may be a good pace to start. The fact that people think that here in Oz we are doing really badly indicates that perhaps they have no idea what it is like to really have no infrastructure to help you if you become ill, lose your job,want to study at University-- or, if you are lucky, grow old, for example. However that is not to say that there does not need to be improvement--- only I can't see anything good happening over the next 3 years!

Well said Ellisa and I understand your position and agree with most of your post.

We should never compare Australia to a 3rd world country (that is unless we're talking about the conditions that indigenous Australians live in).

The good running condition of Australia has very little to do with Government and its legislation and more to do with:

• the quality of the people who supply service provisioning (public servants, private contractors etc),
• the egalitarian nature of Australian society (again, nothing to do with Government) and
• the reasonably fair judicial system that is largely unhampered by political manipulation (though I am worried about the recent developments in Queensland and agree with Fitzgerald's analysis of this).

In relation to Government in Australia being "good"...

Here are just a few examples that illustrate my point.

Local Government:

• The entire Wangaratta Council was recently sack 'because of rampant bullying and intimidating behaviour towards staff and councillors and waste of ratepayers funds' (source).

State Government:

• The afore mentioned introduction of draconian legislation in Queensland aimed at gaining the popular vote (that is what a democracy is after all). This rushed legislation, done with virtually no legal advice, involves restricting an individuals right of association, locking people up for 23 hours a day (solitary confinement), not permitting employment in certain industries and introducing extended sentencing that is beyond the control of the judiciary. This is aimed at "Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs" but to do this to any segment of a population is a slippery slope that scares the sh!t out of me.
• Mr Eddie Obeid and the on-going ICAC investigation into cronyism in the NSW State government under Labor (source).
• In Tasmania almost 50% of the population is functionally illiterate and lack of transport for children in some parts of the state makes accessing a school for years 11 & 12 a 5 hour trip per day.

Finally at the Federal level there's:

• the bloody insulation installation fiasco (4 needless deaths)(source),
• the mining tax (get the billionaire mining magnates [what Senator Cameron refers to as the 'Rolls-Royce revolutionaries'] to design it, yeah, what could go wrong?)(source),
• the NDIS looks about to get assigned to Medibank Private,
• another Government thought bubble seems to want to close Centrelink offices and have them run out of Post Offices (my local post office can't even get the mail in the right box so what hope is there),
• the new audit that's being done at the behest of the Coalition which will probably advise for more privatisation and
• the 8.8 billion dollars the Federal Govt just gave to the Reserve Bank that has economists just scratching their heads.

Anyway, I still think Australia is a lucky country, but its not because of the Government, it's in-spite of them and mostly due to the good honest people who work to make it that way.

No Australian has to look back far in their memory to know what I'm talking about.

For anyone who made it this far here's an excellent article (that fits in with Brand's perspective) that was written by the economist Alan Kohler titled: The Moral Bankruptcy Of Our Ruling Classes

But for me, if there was one dominant, overriding theme over the conference it was that most of the world, if not all of it, is now governed by rich elites who are just out to look after themselves - oligarchies.

And the key problem of Planet Earth these days is that this is no longer confined to the non-democracies: the nations that are nominally democratic (United States, Europe, UK, Japan, India) as well as those that are fundamentally undemocratic (Russia, China) are all now ruled by wealthy oligarchies.

Capitalism has failed to deliver for the poor and the middle classes.
...
The great danger facing the world is that both collectivism and individualism, democracy and one-party rule, have produced the same outcome: oligarchy. "And if you have a society in which only a few win, the rest get together.”
Source

[Krist]

Posted by Krist (here)
If any thing rb is saying has any real value his career should hit rock bottom and his credibility will be destroyed......stay tuned

I don't wish this for him,and do enjoy the show.It is very difficult to discern his sincerity ,he is a comedian /actor in the limelight .Nothing is presented mainstream by accident it seems.

[KiwiElf]

An actor/entertainer/celebrity can wield enormous "power" if they're popular enough and their message strikes a chord. (The downside of that is say,.. John Lennon or Marilyn Monroe, or Princess Diana) Nonetheless, each served to awaken the masses in a positive if not traumatic way. I wish Russell well and to keep up his efforts for as long as it will take. May others join him. The positive change - "the quickening" revolution - has begun!