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    Default Re: Obama Ready to Shutdown 16 US States ?

    The shutdown doesn't seem to be slowing down the long term agenda.




    Government Shutdown Doesn’t Slow Negotiations On The Trans-Pacific Partnership

    As the federal government shutdown continues, Secretary of State John Kerry heads to Asia for secret talks on a sweeping new trade deal, the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

    The TPP is often referred to by critics as “NAFTA on steroids,” and would establish a free trade zone that would stretch from Vietnam to Chile, encompassing 800 million people and nearly 40 percent of the global economy. While the text of the treaty has been largely negotiated behind closed doors and, until June, kept secret from Congress, more than 600 corporate advisers reportedly have access to the measure, including employees of Halliburton and Monsanto.

    “This is not mainly about trade,” says Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. “It is a corporate Trojan horse. The agreement has 29 chapters, and only five of them have to do with trade. The other 24 chapters either handcuff our domestic governments, limiting food safety, environmental standards, financial regulation, energy and climate policy, or establishing new powers for corporations.”
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    Default Re: Obama Ready to Shutdown 16 US States ?

    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    There is little doubt that this story is bogus or just wishful thinking. The US was established to be government for the people and by the people but we have politicians in office that have made careers out of it. They understand how the game is played and manipulate the lobbyist and budgets for their personal gain. No institution on the planet needs term limits more than the both houses!
    I recently read an outstanding book called An Act of Self Defense by Erne Lewis. It is rated 4 ½ stars on Amazon and is available for $ 2.01 used, $9.93 new and $ 4.99 on Kindle. Mr Lewis leans farther toward the Libertarian side than I do but this work is something every American should read. A brilliant political thriller that does not get into the"Liberals and idiots" or the "Conservatives have their heads up their ...". He just points out that we have been duped.

    The only real flaw I see is that he professes that this is happening 10 years in the future, I think that he miscalculated by about 7 years. Below is a clip from Amazon.

    I hope you will enjoy. Please realize that when it comes in you will loose a day from your life. I read it from start to finish in a day except for the last few pages which I restrained myself and read over a few days savoring it like a good Scotch or glass of wine.

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    It is ten years into the future and the nation’s government is nearing financial and moral collapse. A small group (the TLR) believes deadly force is necessary to save individual liberty from the two-party political aristocracy that is Congress. They believe the imminent economic collapse will be an excuse for the dictatorial powers soon to be claimed by the federal government. They accuse Congress of having “increased your powers far beyond their constitutional limits. You have systematically destroyed our natural right to own ourselves and make our own choices. You have become an aristocracy that steals our production and controls us as if we are your serfs.” They announce to the nation, “Ours is the only form of revolution now possible, but it has this advantage. If lives must be taken, only ours or those that have stolen our lives will be required to forfeit theirs.” They give Congress three days . . . to approve their proposed Term Limits Amendment to the Constitution, one that prevents professional politicians from serving in Congress, or, unless they first resign, the long term incumbents “will be term-limited in the only way they leave us.” The Department of Justice targets term limits supporters and libertarians in its hunt for the terrorist group. But when the first senator is “term-limited” in spite of all that federal authorities can do to stop it, it is clear the terrorists will not be easily found. They are inside the federal law enforcement agencies that are hunting them. This novel examines a critical issue for our liberty. If our right to own ourselves and make our own choices—our liberties—are diminishing with every year, how do we ever regain them? Is deadly force justified? even in self-defense? Will it be too late?

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    Default Re: Obama Ready to Shutdown 16 US States ?

    Quote Posted by marlowe (here)
    Mods ,,I think this needs it's own thread ...but merge it if you see fit.

    http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/06/ob...16-u-s-states/

    The article thinks the shutdown is "permanent" ...I think this is a very real possibility...
    If we could only be so lucky. This article is just fear though, even if we were to default, all we would have to pay is the 8% interest and stop borrowing just like when you credit card is maxed out and no bank will give you a new loan. It's really just all political bull****.
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    Default Re: Obama to nominate Janet Yellen to head Federal Reserve

    Somebody plans to give old yellen a hard time.

    Rand Paul: Why I Plan to Grill Yellen
    The Federal Reserve needs to be audited so that the public can better know what the institution is doing with the U.S. money supply, the Senator writes
    Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/10/11/ran...#ixzz2hiPBhCfK

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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Mulder (here)
    If he is impeached, it will be after he's left office like G Bush was in 2008 (from memory).
    To impeach, in the formal legal definition, is to charge a public official with improper conduct in office before a proper tribunal. One cannot impeach a private citizen or a former public official.

    George Bush was never impeached, and, if my understanding is correct, no US public official has ever been impeached after leaving office, by definition of the word "impeached".
    I was speaking "off the cuff" as I didn't have time that day to fully research everything in this thread. However, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, read at length 35 articles of impeachment in June 2008 to the U.S. House of Representatives. No impeachment ever took place and Bush left office In January 2009. So I was incorrect saying Bush was impeached "after" he left office.

    My point was that things like Courts and Jails are only for the citizens, while the elite will always find ways to "get away" with their "crimes."
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    Default Re: As Obama close to dictatorship, there is a way out. It`s called impeachment.

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    Default Obama 'Slaps' Americans in the Face with Agenda 21 'Debunked' Climate Change Policy..!

    Obama Signs Dictatorial Executive Order Imposing Debunked Climate Change Policies

    Another arrogant violation of Article I Section I of the Constitution

    November 2, 2013

    The Obama administration on Friday once again disrespected the Constitution by signing an executive order that circumvents Congress and the American people.

    The latest move defiantly ignores a decision by Congress in 2009 to not establish a cap-and-trade system that would have supposedly discouraged greenhouse-gas emissions. The Waxman-Markey bill passed the House but was defeated in the Senate. At the time, Democrats controlled both houses of Congress.


    The latest unconstitutional EO establishes a task force of state and local officials “to advise the administration on how to respond to severe storms, wildfires, droughts and other potential impacts of climate change.” according to Fox News.

    The EO lumps extreme weather events under the discredited rubric of climate change. It will mandate new federal building codes under Agenda 21′s “sustainability” and promises to “address climate impacts and infrastructure needs.” The order was praised by the EPA and its administrator, Gina McCarthy, who said it serves as a “roadmap for agency work” and forces the nation to face what it deems are “climate-related challenges.”

    The EO will withhold money expropriated by the federal government from the states if they do not sign on to the latest climate scam proposals. It will “bring sweeping new changes to land use and resource policies,” “refocus of climate change data and use of it to push a new agenda into every priority of the federal government,” and, importantly, make policies immune to challenge by establishing “a new internal organization for coordination efforts during a government sequestration and possible future shutdowns.”

    A study released last year debunked Al Gore’s “hockey stick” graph on warming and states that the statistical outcomes on climate change produced by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and associated organizations are “quite wrong.”

    Data compiled by NASA’s Langley Research Center earlier this year, writes Ethan A. Huff for Natural News, reveals that “all those atmospheric greenhouse gases that Al Gore and all the other global warming hoaxers have long claimed are overheating and destroying our planet are actually cooling it.”

    Article I Section I of the Constitution unambiguously states that Congress, not the executive, has legislative power. An executive order is not lawful legislation.

    “An Executive Order is a policy or procedure issued by the President that is a regulation that applies only to employees of the Executive Branch of government,” notes the Tenth Amendment Center. “When a President issues an unconstitutional Executive Order and Congress allows the order to stand they are violating their oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.”

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-si...-policies.html

    PS - 3 Things you should know about the 'Climate Change/Global Warming (SCAM)...
    • Qu1. Where did the (CON) start and in which Country..?
    • Qu2. Who was the (Chief 'Criminal' Instigator) of the (SCAM)..?
    • Qu3. Which other NWO/PTW Organizations were involved..?

    Ans1. The Agenda 21/Climate Change (CON) started at the (1992 Earth Summit) in
    Rio de Janeiro (Brazil).



    Event: The Earth Summit

    Year: 1992
    Date: 3-14 June
    Host: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    NGO presence: Some 2,400 representatives of non-governmental organizations (NGOs)

    Principal themes: Environment and "Sustainable" development


    http://www.un.org/geninfo/bp/enviro.html

    Quote Resulting document: Agenda 21, the Rio Declaration on Environment and Development, the Statement of Forest Principles, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change and the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity
    Ans2. Maurice Strong

    Conference Secretary-General: Maurice F. Strong, Canada...

    This man is the 'Architect' of the NWO/PTW Death Star..!

    Maurice Strong and the (Cap & Trade) Crime of the Century..!!!

    Quote The chief individual in this agenda is director of the Aspen Institute, Canadian multi-millionaire Maurice Strong. Strong is being heralded as the “indispensable man” at the center of the U.N.’s global power. He has served as director of the World Future Society, trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation and Aspen Institute, and is a member of the Club of Rome.

    Strong is now:

    • Senior Advisor to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan
    • Senior Advisor to World Bank President James Wolfensohn
    • Chairman of the Earth Council
    • Chairman of the World Resources Institute
    • Co-Chairman of the Council of the World Economic Forum
    • member of Toyota’s International Advisory Board

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...lization37.htm
    Quote “It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class—involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing—are not sustainable. A shift is necessary towards lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.”

    Maurice Strong (1992 Rio Earth Summit 11).
    Quote "After all, sustainability means running the global environment - Earth Inc. - like a corporation: with depreciation, amortization and maintenance accounts. In other words, keeping the asset whole, rather than undermining your natural capital."
    * Maurice Strong
    Quote After the Earth Summit, Strong continued to take a leading role in implementing the results of agreements at the Earth Summit through establishment of the Earth Council, the Earth Charter movement, his chairmanship of the World Resources Institute, membership on the board of the International Institute for Sustainable Development, the Stockholm Environment Institute, The Africa-America Institute, the Institute of Ecology in Indonesia, the Beijer Institute of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and others. Strong was a longtime Foundation Director of the World Economic Forum, a senior advisor to the president of the World Bank, a member of the International Advisory of Toyota Motor Corporation, the Advisory Council for the Center for International Development of Harvard University, the World Business Council for Sustainable Development, the World Conservation Union (IUCN), the World Wildlife Fund, Resources for the Future, and the Eisenhower Fellowships. His public service activities were carried out on a pro bono basis made possible by his business activities, which included chairman of the International Advisory Group of CH2M Hill, Strovest Holdings, Technology Development Inc., Zenon Environmental, and most recently, Cosmos International, and the China Carbon Corporation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice...g#Earth_Summit
    Quote Among the hats he currently wears are: Senior Advisor to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan; Senior Advisor to World Bank President James Wolfensohn; Chairman of the Earth Council; Chairman of the World Resources Institute; Co-Chairman of the Council of the World Economic Forum; member of Toyota's International Advisory Board. As advisor to Kofi Annan, he is overseeing the new UN reforms.

    http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html
    Ans3. The Club of Rome - The Trilateral Commission - World bank - World Resources Institute - Council of World Economic Forum - United Nations - etc, etc...



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    Default Re: Obama 'Slaps' Americans in the Face with Agenda 21 'Debunked' Climate Change Policy..!

    Wow, someone needs to manufacture some punching bags with the "O" on them.
    This guy isn't what we ordered lol.

    Even NASA is backpedaling on the climate change nonsense according to your quote, and it looks like what they say doesn't matter to whomever is pushing these agendas with Obama.

    Thanks for letting us know about this. It reminds me of the Monsanto takeover. Do you know if any companies with geoengineering investors are linked to this passing?

    edit: the same people pushing geoengineering technology are backing the carbon tax.

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    Default Re: Obama 'Slaps' Americans in the Face with Agenda 21 'Debunked' Climate Change Policy..!

    Money grab, after money grab, after money grab, this is how they are going to dig themselves out of their hole?
    Instead of butchering some pigs at the trough, you're gonna start butchering your family and feed them to the pigs???
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    Default Re: Obama 'Slaps' Americans in the Face with Agenda 21 'Debunked' Climate Change Policy..!

    as someone phrased it recently "like a junkie selling family heirlooms", desperate to raise money for a broke economy that doesn't know where else to get money from anymore

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    Default Obama stops NSA spying on IMF and World Bank

    I really don't understand how anyone could still think Obama is a good guy, a lightworker when all he seems to do is anti-American things. I'm not feeling the love from this guy....

    Here's just another example of his handiwork I found on Red Ice Creations called "Obama stops NSA spying on IMF and World Bank".

    http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=27540

    Now isn't he just so special....?

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    Default Re: Obama stops NSA spying on IMF and World Bank

    Soooo, would this be like the chickens guarding the fox hole?
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    Default Re: Obama stops NSA spying on IMF and World Bank

    As I point out on another thread we do not know what our representatives have to do to protect us perhaps theirs is damned if I do but Damned even more if I don't.

    Please consider the scenario that some vast ruthless all powerful organisation/culture has us all by the short and curlies,
    and every thing our governments do is about damage limitation nothing more or less than survival.

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    Default Re: Obama stops NSA spying on IMF and World Bank

    I don't believe the title of this thread for a second....

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    Default Re: Obama to nominate Janet Yellen to head Federal Reserve

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    The Fed's contract is not up ... no renewal necessary. The stories I've seen claiming that the Fed had an expiring contract confused me. Perhaps it did once, but got it changed to an eternal contract.
    Aha - I finally have a source for this claim of mine that the Federal Reserve's charter is "eternal":


    Bill Still explains how the THE McFADDEN NATIONAL BANK ACT of 1927 ammended the Federal Reserve charter (originally granted in 1913) from requiring renewal every 20 years, to instead to continue until dissolved by Congress. From the book BRANCH BANKING IN THE UNITED STATES, by SHIRLEY DONALD SOUTHWORTH, Ph.D. , 1928:
    Senate. Banking and Currency Committee. Perpetual charters for
    national banks, hearing before subcommittee on S. 3255, to amend
    Sec. 5136, Revised statutes, relating to corporate powers of associations,
    so as to provide succession thereof until dissolved, and to apply said
    section as so amended to all national banking associations.
    and further down:

    FEDERAL, RESERVE BANKS CHARTERED FOR INDETERMINATE PERIOD

    Sec. 18. That the second subdivision of the fourth paragraph of Section
    4 of the Federal Reserve Act be amended to read as follows :

    " Second. To have succession after the approval of this Act until dis-
    solved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of
    law."
    and yet further down:
    1 IUd., p. 1547. "Sec. 20. That the second subdivision of the fourth
    paragraph of Section 4 of the Federal Reserve Act be amended to read as
    follows :

    'Second. To have succession after the approval of this Act until dis-
    solved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of
    law/ "
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    Default Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda

    interesting interview from a unlikely Russiaphilic, & admirer of President Putin...

    Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda



    Published on 10 Nov 2013


    Lawman and vigilante, fighter and peacemaker. He has played many roles in his career,
    but few seem as likely as an ambassador between the US and Russia. From disarming
    a nuclear weapon to helping with the War on Terror, can an actor become a true action
    hero, succeeding where countless politicians have stumbled? Steven Seagal joins
    Oksana to thrash out these issues.

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    Default Re: Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda

    RT pulled the ultimate move, where all the main news outlets are available on cable to those who can afford to watch for $100/month

    the Kremlin decided to make Russia Today available to the little guy and make it free...

    no need to pay money for mind control channels for the sheeple

    they mirror what we are saying here at Avalon, they expose the lies on headline TV

    I wouldn't doubt the huge blow up at media outlets in London was directed mainly at RT for spilling too much truth...

    when they lose control of the masses through media, they have nothing left to keep everyone blindly following leadership...

    I was glad watching segal's interview yesterday, he has always stood against big oil

    and now he's a cop, let's see him go arrest a few bankers the real criminals of society...

    I'd love to see a movie of him kicking the brains out of a few girly men crooks that deserve it...

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    Default Re: Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda

    I agree Rocky I post a lot of RT reports and am aware that they have been very
    clever filling a niche between the alternative Alex Jones, David Ice sphere
    and the corporate mainstream. They have a good balance of intelligent
    male ,female news readers and reporter/Journalists and report on all the
    events the mainstream owners tell there outlets to ignore.

    A few like the Mail & Guardian seem to be joining more and reporting
    events like Bilderberg. Channell 4 news has been good on certain events.
    The BBC are better than you would think but a lot is buried in the web
    site and you have to look for it, and less is actually reported on the TV
    news itself though some of the radio shows go into detail on some subjects.

    I do post from other outlets around the world but these are more sporadic.

    But we still must try and balance whatever news reports or articles we read/post
    imo.
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    Default Re: Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda

    RT is just another propaganda machine backed by the Kremlin who is no saint and has much blood on it's own hands, and more to come ,ask Japan ask the sea ask the fish ask the whales. who is worse?

    The one that tells the most truth no matter what the consequences.

    The one that does the best for mother Earth will be King- it is not rocket science they will be the king of the world.

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    Default Re: Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    interesting interview from a unlikely Russiaphilic, & admirer of President Putin...

    Steven Seagal: Obama regime very good at controlling media, propaganda



    Published on 10 Nov 2013


    Lawman and vigilante, fighter and peacemaker. He has played many roles in his career,
    but few seem as likely as an ambassador between the US and Russia. From disarming
    a nuclear weapon to helping with the War on Terror, can an actor become a true action
    hero, succeeding where countless politicians have stumbled? Steven Seagal joins
    Oksana to thrash out these issues.
    I was very positively impressed by this interview with Steven Seagal. He had all the right answers, IMO. Genuine. Maybe pulled a few punches with his statements, and maybe that was appropriate for the general audience.

    I like this guy. Must watch more of his movies.

    He should be here on Project Avalon.

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